• booze and bars, was: Right to pr0n overruled

    From danny burstein@21:1/5 to Pluted Pup on Wed Jul 16 13:05:15 2025
    In <ZxycnRS8KLQVpur1nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com> Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> writes:

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    If we did, all those places carding for alcohol purchases would be
    violating adults' rights.

    Are the stores recording the complete information on the ID
    or are they simply checking the age on the card visually?

    there's a hefy data mining industry that looks at those cards
    and tracks your info...

    Yeah, if it's just you flashing it at a checkout counter
    worker and paying in cash, then no. But if you're swiping
    it at a bar...







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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to danny burstein on Wed Jul 16 15:53:11 2025
    danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:
    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> writes:
    On 6/29/25 8:02 AM, Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:

    [snip]

    If we did, all those places carding for alcohol purchases would be >>>violating adults' rights.

    Are the stores recording the complete information on the ID
    or are they simply checking the age on the card visually?

    there's a hefy data mining industry that looks at those cards
    and tracks your info...

    Yeah, if it's just you flashing it at a checkout counter
    worker and paying in cash, then no. But if you're swiping
    it at a bar...

    In my state, the purchaser presents ID, typically a driver's license, to purchase alchohol and cigarettes and other tobacco products, and
    marijuana too. The clerk or bartender records the driver's license
    number by scanning the barcode. That allows the lookup in the state
    database or extract of the state database made available for retail transactions, so yeah, the store or bar must be capturing any
    identifying information made available. I think they are required to in
    case of an audit for underage purchases.

    There's no more "just flash the ID and don't allow inspection". There's
    no anonymity in purchase transactions.

    With credit card purchases, the merchant could get identifying
    informatio as well.

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