...because they're too scared to leave their homes and go to work.
Once again I thank my past self for deciding to live in a city adjacent to L.A. rather than L.A. itself when I first moved here. At least this communist asshole isn't handing out gift cards full of *my* tax money to illegals.
https://ibb.co/LDtJCKNR
On 2025-07-21 12:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
...because they're too scared to leave their homes and go to work.Brilliant! Bass has just incentivized a whole lot of people to stay home
Once again I thank my past self for deciding to live in a city adjacent to >> L.A. rather than L.A. itself when I first moved here. At least this communist
asshole isn't handing out gift cards full of *my* tax money to illegals.
https://ibb.co/LDtJCKNR
and live off handouts. All they have to do is claim that they're worried
that they might be picked up by ICE at work (or on the way to or from
work) so they need to stay home. Will these people even be vetted to determine if they are illegal? Somehow, I doubt it since that would be painted as racist or something: "you have to believe all claimants" just
like we were supposed to "believe all women". What stops people who are
not illegal from claiming that they are worried about being picked up by
ICE so they are staying home too?
You can bet the claimants will very soon come along and insist that
whatever money they are being given on these cash cards is not enough.
They will insist that the money isn't enough for the food they like and
it doesn't cover the delivery services that bring them to the door.
(After all, if they're afraid of going to work because of the risk of an
ICE detention, they can argue that they're afraid of going to the
supermarket or the gas station on the same grounds.)
Will their kids also get private home tutoring for fear of them being
picked up by ICE?
I don't know how Bass survived shitting the bed with her "leadership"
during the fires but surely this should justify a recall....
...because they're too scared to leave their homes and go to work.
Once again I thank my past self for deciding to live in a city adjacent to >L.A. rather than L.A. itself when I first moved here. At least this communist >asshole isn't handing out gift cards full of *my* tax money to illegals.
https://ibb.co/LDtJCKNR
On 2025-07-21 12:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
...because they're too scared to leave their homes and go to work.Brilliant! Bass has just incentivized a whole lot of people to stay home
Once again I thank my past self for deciding to live in a city adjacent to >> L.A. rather than L.A. itself when I first moved here. At least this
communist
asshole isn't handing out gift cards full of *my* tax money to illegals.
https://ibb.co/LDtJCKNR
and live off handouts. All they have to do is claim that they're worried
that they might be picked up by ICE at work (or on the way to or from
work) so they need to stay home. Will these people even be vetted to determine if they are illegal? Somehow, I doubt it since that would be painted as racist or something: "you have to believe all claimants" just
like we were supposed to "believe all women". What stops people who are
not illegal from claiming that they are worried about being picked up by
ICE so they are staying home too?
I don't know how Bass survived shitting the bed with her "leadership"
during the fires but surely this should justify a recall....
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
...because they're too scared to leave their homes and go to work.
You've just condemned people with jobs who are providing for their
families who are now on welfare because of Trump's policies.
These are responsible adults who contribute far more than those born here who are
on welfare.
Do you listen to yourself? If they are productive, keep 'em.
Once again I thank my past self for deciding to live in a city adjacent to >> L.A. rather than L.A. itself when I first moved here. At least this communist
asshole isn't handing out gift cards full of *my* tax money to illegals.
https://ibb.co/LDtJCKNR
You don't live in a different economy. Paying people not to work who had
been working, contributing productively to the economy and providing for their families, is economically inefficient and economically harmful.
Jul 21, 2025 at 10:37:26 AM PDT, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
...because they're too scared to leave their homes and go to work.
You've just condemned people with jobs who are providing for their
families who are now on welfare because of Trump's policies.
Trump's not giving them free cash. If Bass wasn't doing that, they'd >presumably still be going to work, no matter how scared they are.
These are responsible adults who contribute far more than those born here who >>are on welfare.
Not once you factor in the free cradle-to-grave health care Newsom has given >them. Illegals are costing California far more than they're contributing in >tax revenue.
Do you listen to yourself? If they are productive, keep 'em.
Nope. Even the 'productive' ones are sending the majority of what they make >back to their home countries. They're contributing, sure, but not to the U.S.
I only make exceptions for the hot latina girls. They get a path to >citizenship.
Once again I thank my past self for deciding to live in a city adjacent >>>to L.A. rather than L.A. itself when I first moved here. At least this >>>communist asshole isn't handing out gift cards full of *my* tax money
to illegals.
https://ibb.co/LDtJCKNR
You don't live in a different economy. Paying people not to work who had >>been working, contributing productively to the economy and providing for >>their families, is economically inefficient and economically harmful.
And working jobs that could/should go to American citizens.
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
Jul 21, 2025 at 10:37:26 AM PDT, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
...because they're too scared to leave their homes and go to work.
You've just condemned people with jobs who are providing for their
families who are now on welfare because of Trump's policies.
Trump's not giving them free cash. If Bass wasn't doing that, they'd
presumably still be going to work, no matter how scared they are.
We've heard these stories all over the country that ICE picks up workers
at work, discouraging other workers from working. It has nothing to do
with putting workers on welfare to help them hide from La Migra.
These are responsible adults who contribute far more than those born here who
are on welfare.
Not once you factor in the free cradle-to-grave health care Newsom has given >> them. Illegals are costing California far more than they're contributing in >> tax revenue.
I oppose welfare benefits. They don't immigrate to receive welfare
benefits. There is no reason to give them welfare benefits.
You failed to dispute my statement that they are responsible adults for having jobs.
Do you listen to yourself? If they are productive, keep 'em.
Nope. Even the 'productive' ones are sending the majority of what they make >> back to their home countries. They're contributing, sure, but not to the U.S.
I don't see how it's your place to approve of how and where they support their families.
If the family didn't immigrate, given your opposition to
immigration, why would you of all people disapprove?
I only make exceptions for the hot latina girls. They get a path to
citizenship.
Yeah yeah yeah. She's also a cop with a gun and quite capable of keeping
you in line.
Speaking of which, she's probably running for mayor of Chicago, a first- generation Mexican ethnic born here. She's state comptroller. Her job
is literally criticizing state spending and the lies about balanced
budgets. She routinely criticized Brandon Johnson.
She's a normal politician who doesn't come off as a Commie in any way.
Can we get your endorsement of Suzana Mendoza?
https://illinoiscomptroller.gov/__media/susana-mendoza.jpeg
Once again I thank my past self for deciding to live in a city adjacent >>>> to L.A. rather than L.A. itself when I first moved here. At least this >>>> communist asshole isn't handing out gift cards full of *my* tax money
to illegals.
https://ibb.co/LDtJCKNR
You don't live in a different economy. Paying people not to work who had >>> been working, contributing productively to the economy and providing for >>> their families, is economically inefficient and economically harmful.
And working jobs that could/should go to American citizens.
We don't have people unemployed for that reason. There are lots of jobs
going unfilled.
Jul 21, 2025 at 12:27:29 PM PDT, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
Jul 21, 2025 at 10:37:26 AM PDT, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>: >>>>BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
. . .
Do you listen to yourself? If they are productive, keep 'em.
Nope. Even the 'productive' ones are sending the majority of what
they make back to their home countries. They're contributing, sure,
but not to the U.S.
I don't see how it's your place to approve of how and where they support >>their families.
You're the one saying they should be shielded from enforcement because of >their productivity. That makes the question of who benefits from that >productivity relevant.
I only make exceptions for the hot latina girls. They get a path to >>>citizenship.
Yeah yeah yeah. She's also a cop with a gun and quite capable of keeping >>you in line.
Well, that one's a citizen, so she's not really part of this equation.
Speaking of which, she's probably running for mayor of Chicago, a first- >>generation Mexican ethnic born here. She's state comptroller. Her job
is literally criticizing state spending and the lies about balanced >>budgets. She routinely criticized Brandon Johnson.
She's a normal politician who doesn't come off as a Commie in any way.
Can we get your endorsement of Suzana Mendoza?
https://illinoiscomptroller.gov/__media/susana-mendoza.jpeg
Good thing she's a citizen. I don't know that she meets the hotness quotient.
. . .
On Jul 21, 2025 at 9:42:12 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On 2025-07-21 12:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
...because they're too scared to leave their homes and go to work.Brilliant! Bass has just incentivized a whole lot of people to stay home
Once again I thank my past self for deciding to live in a city adjacent to
L.A. rather than L.A. itself when I first moved here. At least this
communist
asshole isn't handing out gift cards full of *my* tax money to illegals. >>>
https://ibb.co/LDtJCKNR
and live off handouts. All they have to do is claim that they're worried
that they might be picked up by ICE at work (or on the way to or from
work) so they need to stay home. Will these people even be vetted to
determine if they are illegal? Somehow, I doubt it since that would be
painted as racist or something: "you have to believe all claimants" just
like we were supposed to "believe all women". What stops people who are
not illegal from claiming that they are worried about being picked up by
ICE so they are staying home too?
I've asked the same thing about Newsom's free cradle-to-grave health care for illegals.
Why should I keep paying for my own health care insurance?
Since there's no way to document illegal alien status [they're called 'undocumented' for a reason by the PC crowd; indeed, it's deemed to be 'racist' to even inquire into legal status and healthcare providers are prohibited by law from doing so], why couldn't I just go to a hospital (or to MediCal) and just say I'm an illegal and ditch my health insurance, saving me thousands/year?
Same for Newsom's "0 down, 0%" home-buying program for illegals: how would they know if I showed up and asked for my interest free home loan, whether I'm
an illegal or not? By definition, illegals don't have documentation of their identity, status, or nationality, so what's to stop American citizens from taking advantage of all the free shit they're throwing at illegals?
I predict it won't be more than a year or two before we see a bill introduced
into the state legislature to make it a crime to impersonate an illegal alien or a vagrant for the purpose of acquiring all the benefits, freebies, handouts, and legal immunity from prosecution that they're afforded.
As an aside, I saw an amusing bumper sticker on the way to dinner last night:
"I like my guns like Kamala likes her voters: Undocumented"
I don't know how Bass survived shitting the bed with her "leadership"
during the fires but surely this should justify a recall....
She's latched onto the whole anti-ICE thing like a pitbull on a 2-year-old. She seems to think it's her path to reelection after the whole fire debacle. She may be right, given the constituency that actually makes up a significant percentage of the L.A. electorate.
Just watch how animated and full of fire and energy she is when she's on camera complaining about ICE and sticking up for illegal alien lawbreakers, and then compare it to the energy she displayed during and immediately after the fires, where she mostly sat silently and morosely in the background of press conferences and gave 'no comments' whenever she couldn't duck the media entirely.
If only Bass could find the same vigor and vim for American citizens that she shows for illegal aliens.
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
Jul 21, 2025 at 12:27:29 PM PDT, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
Jul 21, 2025 at 10:37:26 AM PDT, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
. . .
Do you listen to yourself? If they are productive, keep 'em.
Nope. Even the 'productive' ones are sending the majority of what
they make back to their home countries. They're contributing, sure,
but not to the U.S.
I don't see how it's your place to approve of how and where they support >>> their families.
You're the one saying they should be shielded from enforcement because of
their productivity. That makes the question of who benefits from that
productivity relevant.
I'm not saying shield them from enforcement. I'm pointing out that we
should be in favor of productivity and not doing things that harm productivity. Cato Institute, absurdly far to the right but libertarian,
had a good suggestion about giving those who come here to work visas to
do so -- no welfare -- that are easily revokable if they cause trouble.
This would not be a path to citizenship, which would have to be an
entirely separate process.
I think that's a reform Congress should pass.
I only make exceptions for the hot latina girls. They get a path to
citizenship.
Yeah yeah yeah. She's also a cop with a gun and quite capable of keeping >>> you in line.
Well, that one's a citizen, so she's not really part of this equation.
Speaking of which, she's probably running for mayor of Chicago, a first- >>> generation Mexican ethnic born here. She's state comptroller. Her job
is literally criticizing state spending and the lies about balanced
budgets. She routinely criticized Brandon Johnson.
She's a normal politician who doesn't come off as a Commie in any way.
Can we get your endorsement of Suzana Mendoza?
https://illinoiscomptroller.gov/__media/susana-mendoza.jpeg
Good thing she's a citizen. I don't know that she meets the hotness quotient.
She's in her mid 50s. I think she looks good, and these days I find "not
a Communist" very appealing.
. . .
On 2025-07-21 2:30 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 21, 2025 at 9:42:12 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> >> wrote:If the healthcare providers don't check this - and it sounds like they
On 2025-07-21 12:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
...because they're too scared to leave their homes and go to work.Brilliant! Bass has just incentivized a whole lot of people to stay home >>> and live off handouts. All they have to do is claim that they're worried >>> that they might be picked up by ICE at work (or on the way to or from
Once again I thank my past self for deciding to live in a city adjacent to
L.A. rather than L.A. itself when I first moved here. At least this >>>> communist
asshole isn't handing out gift cards full of *my* tax money to illegals.
https://ibb.co/LDtJCKNR
work) so they need to stay home. Will these people even be vetted to
determine if they are illegal? Somehow, I doubt it since that would be
painted as racist or something: "you have to believe all claimants" just >>> like we were supposed to "believe all women". What stops people who are >>> not illegal from claiming that they are worried about being picked up by >>> ICE so they are staying home too?
I've asked the same thing about Newsom's free cradle-to-grave health care >> for
illegals.
Why should I keep paying for my own health care insurance?
Since there's no way to document illegal alien status [they're called
'undocumented' for a reason by the PC crowd; indeed, it's deemed to be
'racist' to even inquire into legal status and healthcare providers are
prohibited by law from doing so], why couldn't I just go to a hospital (or >> to
MediCal) and just say I'm an illegal and ditch my health insurance, saving >> me
thousands/year?
Same for Newsom's "0 down, 0%" home-buying program for illegals: how would >> they know if I showed up and asked for my interest free home loan, whether >> I'm
an illegal or not? By definition, illegals don't have documentation of their
identity, status, or nationality, so what's to stop American citizens from >> taking advantage of all the free shit they're throwing at illegals?
are legally prohibited from doing so - then I have to believe that some opportunists are already pretending to be illegals just to save on
health expenses. It can't be that hard to fake a foreign accent and
insist you are undocumented....
If you wanted to go down that path, just pretend to be Canadian. Most Americans can't tell an American from a Canadian by their accent so you
won't have to change the way you say anything unless you have a
distinctly American accent, like New York, Chicago or Deep South.
In fact, it might be brilliant strategy if EVERYONE pretends to be undocumented to get free health care. It would soon put pressure on
Newsom and his supporters to set some boundaries on who can make these
health claims.
I predict it won't be more than a year or two before we see a billI don't see how they can do that without also providing some way to definitively prove that some is or is not undocumented.
introduced
into the state legislature to make it a crime to impersonate an illegal
alien
or a vagrant for the purpose of acquiring all the benefits, freebies,
handouts, and legal immunity from prosecution that they're afforded.
As an aside, I saw an amusing bumper sticker on the way to dinner last
night:
"I like my guns like Kamala likes her voters: Undocumented"
Good one!
How is it that the voters don't make that same connection? You can't be
I don't know how Bass survived shitting the bed with her "leadership"
during the fires but surely this should justify a recall....
She's latched onto the whole anti-ICE thing like a pitbull on a 2-year-old. >> She seems to think it's her path to reelection after the whole fire debacle.
She may be right, given the constituency that actually makes up a
significant
percentage of the L.A. electorate.
Just watch how animated and full of fire and energy she is when she's on
camera complaining about ICE and sticking up for illegal alien lawbreakers, >> and then compare it to the energy she displayed during and immediately after
the fires, where she mostly sat silently and morosely in the background of >> press conferences and gave 'no comments' whenever she couldn't duck the
media
entirely.
If only Bass could find the same vigor and vim for American citizens that >> she
shows for illegal aliens.
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