• Re: Hybrid characters in SF (Re: What Did You Watch?)

    From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to Melissa Hollingsworth on Tue Aug 5 17:22:51 2025
    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <106so9s$2nee8$2@dont-email.me>, did
    weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:

    thetruemelissa@gmail.com wrote:

    Then again, we can't expect real science fiction from Star Trek. If the
    character is one of their already-makes-no-sense hybrids, I guess
    there's at least some explanation.

    Yeah, it makes zero sense for this character to exist.

    It seems like every iteration of 'Trek now has a new half-breed of some sort.

    Do they ever make any effort to explain this? I've never seen one
    onscreen. One of the novels bothered to mention that Sarek and Amanda
    had used a laboratory to create Spock, but the shows seem to assume that
    any two creatures can reproduce. Really, it seems like it would be
    easier for a human to mate with an oak tree than with any
    extraterrestrial species.

    People do seem to like hybrids, though. There are other SF shows with
    hybrid characters, and fantasy has a lot of half-elves and half-orcs
    running around. I think we go for that "I don't really fit in anywhere" thing, which is a normal part of adolescence and so lives inside us all.


    There’s an episode of TNG where they trace down some ancient race that fiddled with younger races, and it turns out that humans and Klingons and Romulans and some fourth race, maybe Kardashians, all sprang from a common ancestor.

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to Melissa Hollingsworth on Tue Aug 5 21:13:27 2025
    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <2074101647.776132458.870628.anim8rfsk- cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this message:

    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <106so9s$2nee8$2@dont-email.me>, did
    weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:

    Do they ever make any effort to explain this? I've never seen one
    onscreen. One of the novels bothered to mention that Sarek and Amanda
    had used a laboratory to create Spock, but the shows seem to assume that >>> any two creatures can reproduce. Really, it seems like it would be
    easier for a human to mate with an oak tree than with any
    extraterrestrial species.

    There?s an episode of TNG where they trace down some ancient race that
    fiddled with younger races, and it turns out that humans and Klingons and
    Romulans and some fourth race, maybe Kardashians, all sprang from a common >> ancestor.

    They'd better throw betazoids in there as well, and probably some others
    I'm forgetting.

    Pretty much everybody


    Were there any Andorian-human hybrids onscreen, or was
    that only in the novels?

    Not that I recall, but of course it starts getting complicated with crap
    like Enterprise, which turned out just to be a holo novel and then all of
    nu trek which obviously isn’t canon to real Trek no matter what they say.
    In fact, TNG stopped being canon with real trek when they got the year
    wrong towards the end of season one.



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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to thetruemelissa@gmail.com on Wed Aug 6 04:30:49 2025
    thetruemelissa@gmail.com wrote:
    weberm@polaris.net delivered unto us this message:
    thetruemelissa@gmail.com wrote:

    Then again, we can't expect real science fiction from Star Trek.
    If the character is one of their already-makes-no-sense hybrids,
    I guess there's at least some explanation.

    Yeah, it makes zero sense for this character to exist.

    It seems like every iteration of 'Trek now has a new half-breed of some sort.

    Do they ever make any effort to explain this? I've never seen one
    onscreen. One of the novels bothered to mention that Sarek and Amanda
    had used a laboratory to create Spock, but the shows seem to assume that
    any two creatures can reproduce. Really, it seems like it would be
    easier for a human to mate with an oak tree than with any
    extraterrestrial species.

    I honestly do not remember but thought Spock was eventually conceived via nature intercourse and Bayanna from Voyager was the product of rape. There
    was a half-Klingon on Next Gen too that I liked. Too bad they got rid of her.

    People do seem to like hybrids, though. There are other SF shows with
    hybrid characters, and fantasy has a lot of half-elves and half-orcs
    running around. I think we go for that "I don't really fit in anywhere" >thing, which is a normal part of adolescence and so lives inside us all.

    Ditto for Mr Data.

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