In this episode of Triggernometry, Francis and Konstantin discuss the
state of free speech in the UK with the head of the Free Speech Union
and it's not a pretty picture. The statistics he gives at the end of the video are particularly concerning with roughly 30 Brits a day being
arrested for free speech infringements and twice that number having
Non-Crime Hate Incidents recorded against them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xorkq9jX5k [67 minutes]
Americans will be gratified to hear Justice Brandeis spoken of very favourably at one point.
On Aug 12, 2025 at 1:25:17 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
In this episode of Triggernometry, Francis and Konstantin discuss the
state of free speech in the UK with the head of the Free Speech Union
and it's not a pretty picture. The statistics he gives at the end of the
video are particularly concerning with roughly 30 Brits a day being
arrested for free speech infringements and twice that number having
Non-Crime Hate Incidents recorded against them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xorkq9jX5k [67 minutes]
Americans will be gratified to hear Justice Brandeis spoken of very
favourably at one point.
I wonder what they do with foreigners with these 'non-crime hate incidents"? I
mean, if I'm not a Brit and am only there for a limited time, what do I care if they log one of these made-up nonsense crimes against me? If you laugh at them when they get all serious and tell you it's going in your permanent record, do they stamp their foot and cry?
On 2025-08-12 5:17 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 12, 2025 at 1:25:17 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> >> wrote:Great question but I have no idea what the consequences are for
In this episode of Triggernometry, Francis and Konstantin discuss the
state of free speech in the UK with the head of the Free Speech Union
and it's not a pretty picture. The statistics he gives at the end of the >>> video are particularly concerning with roughly 30 Brits a day being
arrested for free speech infringements and twice that number having
Non-Crime Hate Incidents recorded against them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xorkq9jX5k [67 minutes]
Americans will be gratified to hear Justice Brandeis spoken of very
favourably at one point.
I wonder what they do with foreigners with these 'non-crime hate incidents"? I
mean, if I'm not a Brit and am only there for a limited time, what do I care >> if they log one of these made-up nonsense crimes against me? If you laugh at >> them when they get all serious and tell you it's going in your permanent
record, do they stamp their foot and cry?
foreigners offending the rules in the UK. I wonder if that would be
grounds for deporting you or
the future?
These zealots are quite capable of enforcing their wills on people if
they really want to do so....
In this episode of Triggernometry, Francis and Konstantin discuss the
state of free speech in the UK with the head of the Free Speech Union
and it's not a pretty picture. The statistics he gives at the end of the video are particularly concerning with roughly 30 Brits a day being
arrested for free speech infringements and twice that number having
Non-Crime Hate Incidents recorded against them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xorkq9jX5k [67 minutes]
Americans will be gratified to hear Justice Brandeis spoken of very favourably at one point.
On Aug 12, 2025 at 1:25:17 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
In this episode of Triggernometry, Francis and Konstantin discuss the
state of free speech in the UK with the head of the Free Speech Union
and it's not a pretty picture. The statistics he gives at the end of the
video are particularly concerning with roughly 30 Brits a day being
arrested for free speech infringements and twice that number having
Non-Crime Hate Incidents recorded against them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xorkq9jX5k [67 minutes]
Americans will be gratified to hear Justice Brandeis spoken of very
favourably at one point.
This one's got to be the worst example yet.
Shopkeeper has been the victim of multiple robberies. Police have done nothing
about it. In one case, he actually managed to detain the thief until the police arrived and the cops just took back the clothing the thief stole and then let thief go on his way.
Frustrated by all of this, the shopkeeper put a sign in his front window reading, "Due to scumbags shoplifting, please ask for assistance to open locked cabinets."
And the same police who couldn't be bothered arresting the thieves preying upon this man showed up instantly to order him to take down the sign because a
thief might be offended to be called a scumbag.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ocfeNwf_M8&pp=0gcJCa0JAYcqIYzv
Monty Python couldn't parody these people. No matter what they came up with, the police and the government would actually do it.
This is the difference between the UK and the US. If a shopkeeper in L.A.-- frustrated with all the no-consequence thieving under our 'progressive' government-- hung up such a sign in his window, the cops wouldn't respond, even if people started complaining about it. And if by some chance, they did respond, they'd have no authority to tell the shopkeeper to take it down. The shopkeeper could just ask, "Is this a crime?" And when the inevitable answer came back, "no", the shopkeeper could just politely tell the cops to move along and leave him alone and they'd have no choice but to do so.
On 8/13/2025 7:15 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 12, 2025 at 1:25:17 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> >> wrote:
In this episode of Triggernometry, Francis and Konstantin discuss the
state of free speech in the UK with the head of the Free Speech Union
and it's not a pretty picture. The statistics he gives at the end of the >>> video are particularly concerning with roughly 30 Brits a day being
arrested for free speech infringements and twice that number having
Non-Crime Hate Incidents recorded against them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xorkq9jX5k [67 minutes]
Americans will be gratified to hear Justice Brandeis spoken of very
favourably at one point.
This one's got to be the worst example yet.
Shopkeeper has been the victim of multiple robberies. Police have done
nothing
about it. In one case, he actually managed to detain the thief until the
police arrived and the cops just took back the clothing the thief stole and >> then let thief go on his way.
Frustrated by all of this, the shopkeeper put a sign in his front window
reading, "Due to scumbags shoplifting, please ask for assistance to open
locked cabinets."
And the same police who couldn't be bothered arresting the thieves preying >> upon this man showed up instantly to order him to take down the sign
because a
thief might be offended to be called a scumbag.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ocfeNwf_M8&pp=0gcJCa0JAYcqIYzv
Monty Python couldn't parody these people. No matter what they came up with,
the police and the government would actually do it.
This is the difference between the UK and the US. If a shopkeeper in L.A.-- >> frustrated with all the no-consequence thieving under our 'progressive'
government-- hung up such a sign in his window, the cops wouldn't respond, >> even if people started complaining about it. And if by some chance, they did
respond, they'd have no authority to tell the shopkeeper to take it down. >> The
shopkeeper could just ask, "Is this a crime?" And when the inevitable answer
came back, "no", the shopkeeper could just politely tell the cops to move >> along and leave him alone and they'd have no choice but to do so.
What if, instead of 'scumbags', he'd said 'shoplifters'?
On Aug 13, 2025 at 7:24:16 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/13/2025 7:15 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 12, 2025 at 1:25:17 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
wrote:
In this episode of Triggernometry, Francis and Konstantin discuss the >>>> state of free speech in the UK with the head of the Free Speech Union >>>> and it's not a pretty picture. The statistics he gives at the end of the >>>> video are particularly concerning with roughly 30 Brits a day being
arrested for free speech infringements and twice that number having
Non-Crime Hate Incidents recorded against them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xorkq9jX5k [67 minutes]
Americans will be gratified to hear Justice Brandeis spoken of very
favourably at one point.
This one's got to be the worst example yet.
Shopkeeper has been the victim of multiple robberies. Police have done >>> nothing
about it. In one case, he actually managed to detain the thief until the >>> police arrived and the cops just took back the clothing the thief stole and
then let thief go on his way.
Frustrated by all of this, the shopkeeper put a sign in his front window >>> reading, "Due to scumbags shoplifting, please ask for assistance to open >>> locked cabinets."
And the same police who couldn't be bothered arresting the thieves preying
upon this man showed up instantly to order him to take down the sign
because a
thief might be offended to be called a scumbag.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ocfeNwf_M8&pp=0gcJCa0JAYcqIYzv
Monty Python couldn't parody these people. No matter what they came up with,
the police and the government would actually do it.
This is the difference between the UK and the US. If a shopkeeper in L.A.--
frustrated with all the no-consequence thieving under our 'progressive' >>> government-- hung up such a sign in his window, the cops wouldn't respond,
even if people started complaining about it. And if by some chance, they did
respond, they'd have no authority to tell the shopkeeper to take it down. >>> The
shopkeeper could just ask, "Is this a crime?" And when the inevitable answer
came back, "no", the shopkeeper could just politely tell the cops to move >>> along and leave him alone and they'd have no choice but to do so.
What if, instead of 'scumbags', he'd said 'shoplifters'?
That would be redundantly bad writing: "Due to shoplifters shoplifting, please
ask for assistance to open
locked cabinets."
Kinda sounds silly.
On 8/13/2025 11:00 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 13, 2025 at 7:24:16 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>
On 8/13/2025 7:15 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 12, 2025 at 1:25:17 PM PDT, "Rhino"
<no_offline_contact@example.com>
wrote:
In this episode of Triggernometry, Francis and Konstantin discuss the >>>>> state of free speech in the UK with the head of the Free Speech Union >>>>> and it's not a pretty picture. The statistics he gives at the end of the
video are particularly concerning with roughly 30 Brits a day being >>>>> arrested for free speech infringements and twice that number having >>>>> Non-Crime Hate Incidents recorded against them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xorkq9jX5k [67 minutes]
Americans will be gratified to hear Justice Brandeis spoken of very >>>>> favourably at one point.
This one's got to be the worst example yet.
Shopkeeper has been the victim of multiple robberies. Police have done >>>> nothing
about it. In one case, he actually managed to detain the thief until the
police arrived and the cops just took back the clothing the thief stole >>>> and
then let thief go on his way.
Frustrated by all of this, the shopkeeper put a sign in his front window
reading, "Due to scumbags shoplifting, please ask for assistance to open
locked cabinets."
And the same police who couldn't be bothered arresting the thieves preying
upon this man showed up instantly to order him to take down the sign >>>> because a
thief might be offended to be called a scumbag.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ocfeNwf_M8&pp=0gcJCa0JAYcqIYzv
Monty Python couldn't parody these people. No matter what they came up >>>> with,
the police and the government would actually do it.
This is the difference between the UK and the US. If a shopkeeper in >>>> L.A.--
frustrated with all the no-consequence thieving under our 'progressive' >>>> government-- hung up such a sign in his window, the cops wouldn't respond,
even if people started complaining about it. And if by some chance, >>>> they did
respond, they'd have no authority to tell the shopkeeper to take it down.
The
shopkeeper could just ask, "Is this a crime?" And when the inevitable >>>> answer
came back, "no", the shopkeeper could just politely tell the cops to move
along and leave him alone and they'd have no choice but to do so.
What if, instead of 'scumbags', he'd said 'shoplifters'?
That would be redundantly bad writing: "Due to shoplifters shoplifting,
please
ask for assistance to open
locked cabinets."
Kinda sounds silly.
Rather than "redundantly bad". perhaps you mean "badly redundant".
Meanwhile, why not take a swing at answering my question...
On Aug 14, 2025 at 8:49:48 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/13/2025 11:00 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 13, 2025 at 7:24:16 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
On 8/13/2025 7:15 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 12, 2025 at 1:25:17 PM PDT, "Rhino"What if, instead of 'scumbags', he'd said 'shoplifters'?
<no_offline_contact@example.com>
wrote:
In this episode of Triggernometry, Francis and Konstantin discuss the
state of free speech in the UK with the head of the Free Speech Union
and it's not a pretty picture. The statistics he gives at the end of the
video are particularly concerning with roughly 30 Brits a day being >>>>>> arrested for free speech infringements and twice that number having >>>>>> Non-Crime Hate Incidents recorded against them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xorkq9jX5k [67 minutes]
Americans will be gratified to hear Justice Brandeis spoken of very >>>>>> favourably at one point.
This one's got to be the worst example yet.
Shopkeeper has been the victim of multiple robberies. Police have done
nothing
about it. In one case, he actually managed to detain the thief until the
police arrived and the cops just took back the clothing the thief stole
and
then let thief go on his way.
Frustrated by all of this, the shopkeeper put a sign in his front window
reading, "Due to scumbags shoplifting, please ask for assistance to open
locked cabinets."
And the same police who couldn't be bothered arresting the thieves preying
upon this man showed up instantly to order him to take down the sign >>>>> because a
thief might be offended to be called a scumbag.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ocfeNwf_M8&pp=0gcJCa0JAYcqIYzv
Monty Python couldn't parody these people. No matter what they came up
with,
the police and the government would actually do it.
This is the difference between the UK and the US. If a shopkeeper in >>>>> L.A.--
frustrated with all the no-consequence thieving under our 'progressive'
government-- hung up such a sign in his window, the cops wouldn't respond,
even if people started complaining about it. And if by some chance, >>>>> they did
respond, they'd have no authority to tell the shopkeeper to take it down.
The
shopkeeper could just ask, "Is this a crime?" And when the inevitable >>>>> answer
came back, "no", the shopkeeper could just politely tell the cops to move
along and leave him alone and they'd have no choice but to do so. >>>>
That would be redundantly bad writing: "Due to shoplifters shoplifting, >>> please
ask for assistance to open
locked cabinets."
Kinda sounds silly.
Rather than "redundantly bad". perhaps you mean "badly redundant".
Either way.
I did. If the answer is not to your liking, perhaps ask your questions in a simple, direct way.
On 8/14/2025 12:52 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 14, 2025 at 8:49:48 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/13/2025 11:00 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 13, 2025 at 7:24:16 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 8/13/2025 7:15 PM, BTR1701 wrote:That would be redundantly bad writing: "Due to shoplifters
On Aug 12, 2025 at 1:25:17 PM PDT, "Rhino"What if, instead of 'scumbags', he'd said 'shoplifters'?
<no_offline_contact@example.com>
wrote:
In this episode of Triggernometry, Francis and Konstantin >>>>>>> discuss theThis one's got to be the worst example yet.
state of free speech in the UK with the head of the Free
Speech Union
and it's not a pretty picture. The statistics he gives at the >>>>>>> end of the
video are particularly concerning with roughly 30 Brits a day >>>>>>> being
arrested for free speech infringements and twice that number >>>>>>> having
Non-Crime Hate Incidents recorded against them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xorkq9jX5k [67 minutes]
Americans will be gratified to hear Justice Brandeis spoken >>>>>>> of very
favourably at one point.
Shopkeeper has been the victim of multiple robberies. Police >>>>>> have done
nothing
about it. In one case, he actually managed to detain the thief >>>>>> until the
police arrived and the cops just took back the clothing the >>>>>> thief stole
and
then let thief go on his way.
Frustrated by all of this, the shopkeeper put a sign in his >>>>>> front window
reading, "Due to scumbags shoplifting, please ask for
assistance to open
locked cabinets."
And the same police who couldn't be bothered arresting the
thieves preying
upon this man showed up instantly to order him to take down >>>>>> the sign
because a
thief might be offended to be called a scumbag.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ocfeNwf_M8&pp=0gcJCa0JAYcqIYzv >>>>>> Monty Python couldn't parody these people. No matter what they >>>>>> came up
with,
the police and the government would actually do it.
This is the difference between the UK and the US. If a
shopkeeper in
L.A.--
frustrated with all the no-consequence thieving under our
'progressive'
government-- hung up such a sign in his window, the cops
wouldn't respond,
even if people started complaining about it. And if by some >>>>>> chance,
they did
respond, they'd have no authority to tell the shopkeeper to >>>>>> take it down.
The
shopkeeper could just ask, "Is this a crime?" And when the
inevitable
answer
came back, "no", the shopkeeper could just politely tell the >>>>>> cops to move
along and leave him alone and they'd have no choice but to do so. >>>>>
shoplifting,
please
ask for assistance to open
locked cabinets."
Kinda sounds silly.
Rather than "redundantly bad". perhaps you mean "badly redundant".
Either way.
Actually, no. One way means "severely bad", the other "bad twice".
I did. If the answer is not to your liking, perhaps ask your questions
in a
simple, direct way.
The question was hardly complex ...almost rhetorical, even. Hint: it's
the one you ducked in favor of a quasi spelling-flame.
On 8/14/2025 12:52 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 14, 2025 at 8:49:48 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>
On 8/13/2025 11:00 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 13, 2025 at 7:24:16 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/13/2025 7:15 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 12, 2025 at 1:25:17 PM PDT, "Rhino"What if, instead of 'scumbags', he'd said 'shoplifters'?
<no_offline_contact@example.com>
wrote:
In this episode of Triggernometry, Francis and Konstantin discuss the
state of free speech in the UK with the head of the Free Speech Union
and it's not a pretty picture. The statistics he gives at the end of the
video are particularly concerning with roughly 30 Brits a day being
arrested for free speech infringements and twice that number having
Non-Crime Hate Incidents recorded against them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xorkq9jX5k [67 minutes]
Americans will be gratified to hear Justice Brandeis spoken of very
favourably at one point.
This one's got to be the worst example yet.
Shopkeeper has been the victim of multiple robberies. Police have done
nothing
about it. In one case, he actually managed to detain the thief until the
police arrived and the cops just took back the clothing the thief stole
and
then let thief go on his way.
Frustrated by all of this, the shopkeeper put a sign in his front window
reading, "Due to scumbags shoplifting, please ask for assistance to open
locked cabinets."
And the same police who couldn't be bothered arresting the thieves >>>>>> preying
upon this man showed up instantly to order him to take down the sign
because a
thief might be offended to be called a scumbag.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ocfeNwf_M8&pp=0gcJCa0JAYcqIYzv >>>>>>
Monty Python couldn't parody these people. No matter what they came up
with,
the police and the government would actually do it.
This is the difference between the UK and the US. If a shopkeeper in
L.A.--
frustrated with all the no-consequence thieving under our 'progressive'
government-- hung up such a sign in his window, the cops wouldn't >>>>>> respond,
even if people started complaining about it. And if by some chance, >>>>>> they did
respond, they'd have no authority to tell the shopkeeper to take it >>>>>> down.
The
shopkeeper could just ask, "Is this a crime?" And when the inevitable
answer
came back, "no", the shopkeeper could just politely tell the cops >>>>>> to move
along and leave him alone and they'd have no choice but to do so. >>>>>
That would be redundantly bad writing: "Due to shoplifters shoplifting, >>>> please ask for assistance to open locked cabinets."
Kinda sounds silly.
Rather than "redundantly bad". perhaps you mean "badly redundant".
Either way.
Actually, no. One way means "severely bad", the other "bad twice".
>> Meanwhile, why not take a swing at answering my question...
I did. If the answer is not to your liking, perhaps ask your questions in a >> simple, direct way.
The question was hardly complex ...almost rhetorical, even. Hint: it's
the one you ducked in favor of a quasi spelling-flame.
On Aug 14, 2025 at 12:10:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/14/2025 12:52 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 14, 2025 at 8:49:48 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
On 8/13/2025 11:00 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 13, 2025 at 7:24:16 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 8/13/2025 7:15 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Aug 12, 2025 at 1:25:17 PM PDT, "Rhino"What if, instead of 'scumbags', he'd said 'shoplifters'?
<no_offline_contact@example.com>
wrote:
In this episode of Triggernometry, Francis and Konstantin discuss the
state of free speech in the UK with the head of the Free Speech Union
and it's not a pretty picture. The statistics he gives at the end of the
video are particularly concerning with roughly 30 Brits a day being
arrested for free speech infringements and twice that number having
Non-Crime Hate Incidents recorded against them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xorkq9jX5k [67 minutes] >>>>>>>>
Americans will be gratified to hear Justice Brandeis spoken of very
favourably at one point.
This one's got to be the worst example yet.
Shopkeeper has been the victim of multiple robberies. Police have done
nothing
about it. In one case, he actually managed to detain the thief until the
police arrived and the cops just took back the clothing the thief stole
and
then let thief go on his way.
Frustrated by all of this, the shopkeeper put a sign in his front window
reading, "Due to scumbags shoplifting, please ask for assistance to open
locked cabinets."
And the same police who couldn't be bothered arresting the thieves
preying
upon this man showed up instantly to order him to take down the sign
because a
thief might be offended to be called a scumbag.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ocfeNwf_M8&pp=0gcJCa0JAYcqIYzv >>>>>>>
Monty Python couldn't parody these people. No matter what they came up
with,
the police and the government would actually do it.
This is the difference between the UK and the US. If a shopkeeper in
L.A.--
frustrated with all the no-consequence thieving under our 'progressive'
government-- hung up such a sign in his window, the cops wouldn't >>>>>>> respond,
even if people started complaining about it. And if by some chance,
they did
respond, they'd have no authority to tell the shopkeeper to take it
down.
The
shopkeeper could just ask, "Is this a crime?" And when the inevitable
answer
came back, "no", the shopkeeper could just politely tell the cops >>>>>>> to move
along and leave him alone and they'd have no choice but to do so. >>>>>>
That would be redundantly bad writing: "Due to shoplifters shoplifting, >>>>> please ask for assistance to open locked cabinets."
Kinda sounds silly.
Rather than "redundantly bad". perhaps you mean "badly redundant".
Either way.
Actually, no. One way means "severely bad", the other "bad twice".
>> Meanwhile, why not take a swing at answering my question...
I did. If the answer is not to your liking, perhaps ask your questions in a
simple, direct way.
The question was hardly complex ...almost rhetorical, even. Hint: it's
the one you ducked in favor of a quasi spelling-flame.
And yet you still won't ask it directly.
In this episode of Triggernometry, Francis and Konstantin discuss the
state of free speech in the UK with the head of the Free Speech Union
and it's not a pretty picture. The statistics he gives at the end of the video are particularly concerning with roughly 30 Brits a day being
arrested for free speech infringements and twice that number having
Non-Crime Hate Incidents recorded against them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xorkq9jX5k [67 minutes]
Americans will be gratified to hear Justice Brandeis spoken of very favourably at one point.
. . .
As anyone with a brain might have predicted, the UK cops are now going beyond >arresting people for 'hatred inciting' speech and locking people up merely for >criticizing the government.
Here we have a case where a retired firefighter was arrested and charged
for criticizing his local fire department's policies. After being booked, >questioned, and charged, he was originally only released on condition
that he not only refrain from further criticism of the government, but
was also forbidden from talking to anyone about having been arrested
for it. He later provided a lawyer by a free speech advocacy group who >managed to get those bail conditions lifted, but he still faces charges
for daring to criticize the fire department.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cytxFu-mnU
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