Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
There's been bit of a hullabaloo here the last few days about a film on
the subject of the Oct. 7 atrocities. A Canadian director made a
documentary about the efforts of a retired Israeli general to reach
family members in one of the kibbutzes attacked on Oct 7. The film was
initially accepted for inclusion in the Toronto International Film
Festival (TIFF) but then they decided it couldn't be shown because of
copyright and security concerns. The argument was that the film included
some footage filmed by Hamas which Hamas had not given their consent to
use! (As I understand it, the footage was intentionally filmed by the
terrorists to celebrate their "glorious" deeds but was then captured by
the IDF.)
Bonk
Hamas videoed their attrocities because they wanted the video to spread.
They wanted the notoriety. They intended the videos to propogate.
If there's copyright infringement, it's not the film festival that would
get sued but the producer.
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There's been bit of a hullabaloo here the last few days about a film on
the subject of the Oct. 7 atrocities. A Canadian director made a
documentary about the efforts of a retired Israeli general to reach
family members in one of the kibbutzes attacked on Oct 7. The film was >initially accepted for inclusion in the Toronto International Film
Festival (TIFF) but then they decided it couldn't be shown because of >copyright and security concerns. The argument was that the film included
some footage filmed by Hamas which Hamas had not given their consent to
use! (As I understand it, the footage was intentionally filmed by the >terrorists to celebrate their "glorious" deeds but was then captured by
the IDF.)
, , ,
There's been bit of a hullabaloo here the last few days about a film on
the subject of the Oct. 7 atrocities. A Canadian director made a
documentary about the efforts of a retired Israeli general to reach
family members in one of the kibbutzes attacked on Oct 7. The film was initially accepted for inclusion in the Toronto International Film
Festival (TIFF) but then they decided it couldn't be shown because of copyright and security concerns. The argument was that the film included
some footage filmed by Hamas which Hamas had not given their consent to
use! (As I understand it, the footage was intentionally filmed by the terrorists to celebrate their "glorious" deeds but was then captured by
the IDF.)
Apparently, 60,000 emails from all over the world persuaded the leaders
of TIFF to show the film after all. They'll be taking security
precautions but the details have not been specified nor would I expect
them to be. (There's a significant Muslim and activist presence in
Toronto and I have serious doubts that they'll just ignore the
screening. I hope the police thoroughly search the venue beforehand for bombs, use metal detectors at the screening(s), and have a large police presence to discourage any attacks. Mind you, there are always still
ways to disrupt a screening. I'm picturing a large group of "activists" attending the screening and then making a ruckus as the film plays....)
https://thecjn.ca/arts-culture/toronto-film-fest-reverses-its-decision- and-will-show-oct-7-documentary/
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/road-between-us-reinvited-screen- tiff-1236490066/
2025-08-16 11:39 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
There's been bit of a hullabaloo here the last few days about a film on >>>the subject of the Oct. 7 atrocities. A Canadian director made a >>>documentary about the efforts of a retired Israeli general to reach >>>family members in one of the kibbutzes attacked on Oct 7. The film was >>>initially accepted for inclusion in the Toronto International Film >>>Festival (TIFF) but then they decided it couldn't be shown because of >>>copyright and security concerns. The argument was that the film included >>>some footage filmed by Hamas which Hamas had not given their consent to >>>use! (As I understand it, the footage was intentionally filmed by the >>>terrorists to celebrate their "glorious" deeds but was then captured by >>>the IDF.)
Bonk
Hamas videoed their attrocities because they wanted the video to spread. >>They wanted the notoriety. They intended the videos to propogate.
If there's copyright infringement, it's not the film festival that would >>get sued but the producer.
The artistic community is famously left/liberal/"progressive" in
orientation so I wasn't remotely surprised by the Festival's decision to >rescind its invitation to show the film; it's exactly what you'd expect
at a time when there is so much nonsense in the mainstream media about
the handling of aid distribution in Gaza.
The imbecilic politicians - like Macron, Starmer, Carney (Canadian PM),
and Albanese (Australian PM) - with their threats to recognize Palestine
are an extra factor in prolonging the war by encouraging Hamas. The
dubious grounds they used to reject the film just stank of the Festival >capitulating to the Left.
The big surprise for me is that so many people objected vociferously to
this action. Nearly everyone seems to be eager to show their
anti-Israeli sentiments right now so I expected the Festival's decision
to stand. The other big surprise was that the Festival relented despite
the outpouring of objections to their act of "dis-inviting" the film.
They must be taking a lot of grief from the Left over that!
Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
2025-08-16 11:39 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
There's been bit of a hullabaloo here the last few days about a film on >>>> the subject of the Oct. 7 atrocities. A Canadian director made a
documentary about the efforts of a retired Israeli general to reach
family members in one of the kibbutzes attacked on Oct 7. The film was >>>> initially accepted for inclusion in the Toronto International Film
Festival (TIFF) but then they decided it couldn't be shown because of
copyright and security concerns. The argument was that the film included >>>> some footage filmed by Hamas which Hamas had not given their consent to >>>> use! (As I understand it, the footage was intentionally filmed by the
terrorists to celebrate their "glorious" deeds but was then captured by >>>> the IDF.)
Bonk
Hamas videoed their attrocities because they wanted the video to spread. >>> They wanted the notoriety. They intended the videos to propogate.
If there's copyright infringement, it's not the film festival that would >>> get sued but the producer.
The artistic community is famously left/liberal/"progressive" in
orientation so I wasn't remotely surprised by the Festival's decision to
rescind its invitation to show the film; it's exactly what you'd expect
at a time when there is so much nonsense in the mainstream media about
the handling of aid distribution in Gaza.
Yes. The excuse didn't hold water. That being said, I don't agree with
how aid distribution is being handled, but that's a separate issue from documenting what happened on October 7.
Historically, this country has been supportive of Israel as long as IThe imbecilic politicians - like Macron, Starmer, Carney (Canadian PM),
and Albanese (Australian PM) - with their threats to recognize Palestine
are an extra factor in prolonging the war by encouraging Hamas. The
dubious grounds they used to reject the film just stank of the Festival
capitulating to the Left.
Yes. The bad actor is being rewarded. I don's a state being a pracitical solution because the world still has no expectations nor illusions that
the Palestinians will behave as good actors, advocating for themselves
while living in peace. The world expects them to be terrorists but would
give them a state anyway.
The big surprise for me is that so many people objected vociferously to
this action. Nearly everyone seems to be eager to show their
anti-Israeli sentiments right now so I expected the Festival's decision
to stand. The other big surprise was that the Festival relented despite
the outpouring of objections to their act of "dis-inviting" the film.
They must be taking a lot of grief from the Left over that!
I guess. Having to show sympathy for the Jews after October 7 was an abheration. It was never going to last.
On 2025-08-16 1:50 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
. . .
Yes. The excuse didn't hold water. That being said, I don't agree with
how aid distribution is being handled, but that's a separate issue from >>documenting what happened on October 7.
Which part?
The UN's pretense-of-a-farce effort or the Gaza Foundation's
efforts which seem to be working but are getting a great deal of
dishonest coverage?
. . .
I guess. Having to show sympathy for the Jews after October 7 was an >>abheration. It was never going to last.
Historically, this country has been supportive of Israel as long as I
can remember, although that has been a little less clear under Liberal >governments and MUCH less clear under Trudeau and now Carney. Under >(Conservative) Stephen Harper, Netanyahu declared us a true friend of
Israel. Under Trudeau, we received Thank You letters from Hamas for the >stands we had taken. Carney has received thanks from Hamas for declaring
his plan to recognize Palestine.
What changed? Apparently, we have around 2 million Muslims in this
country now, far outnumbering the Jewish population, which is somewhere >around 350,000. Who can deliver more votes? The math is simple. Then
there's the CBC, with its $1.5 billion/year stipend from the government, >recently raised another 10% under Carney. They refuse to even call Hamas >terrorists, despite them being designated a terrorist organization by
our government. (This is the same stance as the BBC takes and it's
abundantly clear that the BBC is as anti-Semitic as it can get away
with, which is a lot.)
I think the average lifelong Canadian is still just as supportive of
Jews and Israel as ever but we are being ignored in favour of the newer >voices - and the leftist sympathies of our last two ministers of Foreign >Affairs, Melanie Joly and Anita Anand.
There's been bit of a hullabaloo here the last few days about a film on
the subject of the Oct. 7 atrocities. A Canadian director made a
documentary about the efforts of a retired Israeli general to reach
family members in one of the kibbutzes attacked on Oct 7. The film was initially accepted for inclusion in the Toronto International Film
Festival (TIFF) but then they decided it couldn't be shown because of copyright and security concerns. The argument was that the film included
some footage filmed by Hamas which Hamas had not given their consent to
use! (As I understand it, the footage was intentionally filmed by the terrorists to celebrate their "glorious" deeds but was then captured by
the IDF.)
Apparently, 60,000 emails from all over the world persuaded the leaders
of TIFF to show the film after all. They'll be taking security
precautions but the details have not been specified nor would I expect
them to be. (There's a significant Muslim and activist presence in
Toronto and I have serious doubts that they'll just ignore the
screening. I hope the police thoroughly search the venue beforehand for bombs, use metal detectors at the screening(s), and have a large police presence to discourage any attacks. Mind you, there are always still
ways to disrupt a screening. I'm picturing a large group of "activists" attending the screening and then making a ruckus as the film plays....)
https://thecjn.ca/arts-culture/toronto-film-fest-reverses-its-decision- and-will-show-oct-7-documentary/
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/road-between-us-reinvited-screen- tiff-1236490066/
There's been bit of a hullabaloo here the last few days about a film on
the subject of the Oct. 7 atrocities. A Canadian director made a
documentary about the efforts of a retired Israeli general to reach
family members in one of the kibbutzes attacked on Oct 7. The film was >initially accepted for inclusion in the Toronto International Film
Festival (TIFF) but then they decided it couldn't be shown because of >copyright and security concerns. The argument was that the film included
some footage filmed by Hamas which Hamas had not given their consent to
use! (As I understand it, the footage was intentionally filmed by the >terrorists to celebrate their "glorious" deeds but was then captured by
the IDF.)
Apparently, 60,000 emails from all over the world persuaded the leaders
of TIFF to show the film after all. They'll be taking security
precautions but the details have not been specified nor would I expect
them to be. (There's a significant Muslim and activist presence in
Toronto and I have serious doubts that they'll just ignore the
screening. I hope the police thoroughly search the venue beforehand for >bombs, use metal detectors at the screening(s), and have a large police >presence to discourage any attacks. Mind you, there are always still
ways to disrupt a screening. I'm picturing a large group of "activists" >attending the screening and then making a ruckus as the film plays....)
https://thecjn.ca/arts-culture/toronto-film-fest-reverses-its-decision-and-will-show-oct-7-documentary/
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/road-between-us-reinvited-screen-tiff-1236490066/
I don't want UNRWA back in Gaza but I don't think what the Netanyahu >administration is doing is working.
The artistic community is famously left/liberal/"progressive" in
orientation so I wasn't remotely surprised by the Festival's decision to >rescind its invitation to show the film; it's exactly what you'd expect
at a time when there is so much nonsense in the mainstream media about
the handling of aid distribution in Gaza. The imbecilic politicians -
like Macron, Starmer, Carney (Canadian PM), and Albanese (Australian PM)
- with their threats to recognize Palestine are an extra factor in
prolonging the war by encouraging Hamas. The dubious grounds they used
to reject the film just stank of the Festival capitulating to the Left.
Hamas videoed their attrocities because they wanted the video to spread.
They wanted the notoriety. They intended the videos to propogate.
If there's copyright infringement, it's not the film festival that would
get sued but the producer.
What changed? Apparently, we have around 2 million Muslims in this
country now, far outnumbering the Jewish population, which is somewhere >around 350,000. Who can deliver more votes? The math is simple. Then
there's the CBC, with its $1.5 billion/year stipend from the government, >recently raised another 10% under Carney. They refuse to even call Hamas >terrorists, despite them being designated a terrorist organization by
our government. (This is the same stance as the BBC takes and it's
abundantly clear that the BBC is as anti-Semitic as it can get away
with, which is a lot.)
I think the average lifelong Canadian is still just as supportive of
Jews and Israel as ever but we are being ignored in favour of the newer >voices - and the leftist sympathies of our last two ministers of Foreign >Affairs, Melanie Joly and Anita Anand.
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