• [OT] Will a Muslim recipient of the Order of Canada lose the award?

    From Rhino@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 31 14:12:08 2025
    Although Canada is a part of the British Commonwealth, we don't give knighthoods or similar honours to our most admired citizens. (Conrad
    Black was forced to renounce his Canadian citizenship before he could be
    given a (British) life peerage as Lord Black of Crossharbour). But we DO
    have our own system of honours which began in our centennial year, 1967,
    called the Order of Canada.

    One recipient of the Order of Canada, a Muslim who owns a chain of
    restaurants, is now coming under vocal criticism for some tweets he's
    made that are critical of Israel.

    https://nationalpost.com/news/mohamad-fakih-order-of-canada-anti-israel-post

    It's going to be interesting to see what happens with this. As far as I
    can tell, Parliament doesn't have any direct involvement in deciding who
    gets - or loses - the Order of Canada, although I'm sure there are any
    number of indirect connections that might come into play behind the scenes.

    There *is* precedent for taking away the Order of Canada. A few years
    back, a Canadian senator of indigenous heritage, David Ahenakew, made
    remarks that were clearly supportive of the Nazis and he had his Order
    of Canada revoked in the resulting kerfuffle.

    I think it is clear that the current (federal) Liberal government is
    supportive of the pro-Palestinians given Prime Minister Carney's avowed intention of recognizing Palestine as a state. He may find it awkward to
    take a stance against Mr. Fakih given his plan to recognize Palestine.
    This is going to be an interesting test of whether supporters of Israel
    still have any influence on our government.

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    Rhino

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to Rhino on Sun Aug 31 18:13:59 2025
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    Although Canada is a part of the British Commonwealth, we don't give knighthoods or similar honours to our most admired citizens. (Conrad
    Black was forced to renounce his Canadian citizenship before he could be given a (British) life peerage as Lord Black of Crossharbour). But we DO
    have our own system of honours which began in our centennial year, 1967, called the Order of Canada.

    One recipient of the Order of Canada, a Muslim who owns a chain of restaurants, is now coming under vocal criticism for some tweets he's
    made that are critical of Israel.

    https://nationalpost.com/news/mohamad-fakih-order-of-canada-anti-israel-post

    It's going to be interesting to see what happens with this. As far as I
    can tell, Parliament doesn't have any direct involvement in deciding who
    gets - or loses - the Order of Canada, although I'm sure there are any
    number of indirect connections that might come into play behind the scenes.

    There *is* precedent for taking away the Order of Canada. A few years
    back, a Canadian senator of indigenous heritage, David Ahenakew, made
    remarks that were clearly supportive of the Nazis and he had his Order
    of Canada revoked in the resulting kerfuffle.


    Supportive of World War II era Nazis? What can you possibly say beyond “I hate those guys”?

    I think it is clear that the current (federal) Liberal government is supportive of the pro-Palestinians given Prime Minister Carney's avowed intention of recognizing Palestine as a state. He may find it awkward to
    take a stance against Mr. Fakih given his plan to recognize Palestine.
    This is going to be an interesting test of whether supporters of Israel
    still have any influence on our government.




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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 31 21:38:48 2025
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    On 2025-08-31 9:13 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    Although Canada is a part of the British Commonwealth, we don't give
    knighthoods or similar honours to our most admired citizens. (Conrad
    Black was forced to renounce his Canadian citizenship before he could be
    given a (British) life peerage as Lord Black of Crossharbour). But we DO
    have our own system of honours which began in our centennial year, 1967,
    called the Order of Canada.

    One recipient of the Order of Canada, a Muslim who owns a chain of
    restaurants, is now coming under vocal criticism for some tweets he's
    made that are critical of Israel.

    https://nationalpost.com/news/mohamad-fakih-order-of-canada-anti-israel-post >>
    It's going to be interesting to see what happens with this. As far as I
    can tell, Parliament doesn't have any direct involvement in deciding who
    gets - or loses - the Order of Canada, although I'm sure there are any
    number of indirect connections that might come into play behind the scenes. >>
    There *is* precedent for taking away the Order of Canada. A few years
    back, a Canadian senator of indigenous heritage, David Ahenakew, made
    remarks that were clearly supportive of the Nazis and he had his Order
    of Canada revoked in the resulting kerfuffle.


    Supportive of World War II era Nazis? What can you possibly say beyond “I hate those guys”?

    This short wiki article details what he said, the context in which it
    was said, and what the results were:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Ahenakew#Controversy_surrounding_antisemitic_remarks

    As you can see, his anti-Semitism was unpopular but we still had free
    speech in that his second trial overturned his conviction for attempting
    to incite hate.

    It's a rather different world now after 10 years of the current crop of "Liberal" (progressive!) activists.

    I think it is clear that the current (federal) Liberal government is
    supportive of the pro-Palestinians given Prime Minister Carney's avowed
    intention of recognizing Palestine as a state. He may find it awkward to
    take a stance against Mr. Fakih given his plan to recognize Palestine.
    This is going to be an interesting test of whether supporters of Israel
    still have any influence on our government.




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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to Rhino on Sun Aug 31 20:47:02 2025
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
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    On 2025-08-31 9:13 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    Although Canada is a part of the British Commonwealth, we don't give
    knighthoods or similar honours to our most admired citizens. (Conrad
    Black was forced to renounce his Canadian citizenship before he could be >>> given a (British) life peerage as Lord Black of Crossharbour). But we DO >>> have our own system of honours which began in our centennial year, 1967, >>> called the Order of Canada.

    One recipient of the Order of Canada, a Muslim who owns a chain of
    restaurants, is now coming under vocal criticism for some tweets he's
    made that are critical of Israel.

    https://nationalpost.com/news/mohamad-fakih-order-of-canada-anti-israel-post

    It's going to be interesting to see what happens with this. As far as I
    can tell, Parliament doesn't have any direct involvement in deciding who >>> gets - or loses - the Order of Canada, although I'm sure there are any
    number of indirect connections that might come into play behind the scenes. >>>
    There *is* precedent for taking away the Order of Canada. A few years
    back, a Canadian senator of indigenous heritage, David Ahenakew, made
    remarks that were clearly supportive of the Nazis and he had his Order
    of Canada revoked in the resulting kerfuffle.


    Supportive of World War II era Nazis? What can you possibly say beyond “I >> hate those guys”?

    This short wiki article details what he said, the context in which it
    was said, and what the results were:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Ahenakew#Controversy_surrounding_antisemitic_remarks

    As you can see, his anti-Semitism was unpopular but we still had free
    speech in that his second trial overturned his conviction for attempting
    to incite hate.

    Yikes.

    Thanks for the link.

    Did he get his order of Canadia back when they overturned his conviction?




    It's a rather different world now after 10 years of the current crop of "Liberal" (progressive!) activists.

    I think it is clear that the current (federal) Liberal government is
    supportive of the pro-Palestinians given Prime Minister Carney's avowed
    intention of recognizing Palestine as a state. He may find it awkward to >>> take a stance against Mr. Fakih given his plan to recognize Palestine.
    This is going to be an interesting test of whether supporters of Israel
    still have any influence on our government.







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