• Re: Ping Retro Guy: George Dance forgery and impersonation post

    From Retro Guy@21:1/5 to W.Dockery on Tue Feb 18 23:09:08 2025
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.arts.poetry

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 22:48:37 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

    Retro Guy, I'm not well versed in message ID and such, but here's a link
    that might be useful:

    https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=256958&group=alt.arts.poetry.comments#256958

    I wouldn't call that impersonation, as it clearly says 'NancyGene' in
    the From header. Whether George wrote that or not, I don't know, but
    it's not really impersonation.

    Also, please get familiar with Message-ID, as that is how Usenet admins
    find things, and also how you can send an article "link" to someone
    using a newsreader that is not NovaBBS or jaforum.

    Just click 'copy mid' and it's in your clipboard. Then just paste it
    into a message.

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  • From George J. Dance@21:1/5 to Retro Guy on Wed Feb 19 01:32:31 2025
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.arts.poetry

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 23:08:55 +0000, Retro Guy wrote:

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 22:48:37 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

    Retro Guy, I'm not well versed in message ID and such, but here's a link
    that might be useful:

    https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=256958&group=alt.arts.poetry.comments#256958

    I wouldn't call that impersonation, as it clearly says 'NancyGene' in
    the From header. Whether George wrote that or not, I don't know, but
    it's not really impersonation.

    Also, please get familiar with Message-ID, as that is how Usenet admins
    find things, and also how you can send an article "link" to someone
    using a newsreader that is not NovaBBS or jaforum.

    Just click 'copy mid' and it's in your clipboard. Then just paste it
    into a message.

    Thank you. I'd never used that part of the page editor before. The copy
    mid" function doesn't seem to work for me, but the "show headers" link
    to the left of it works fine, and I can copy the messageID from there.
    In that light, I'd like to draw your attention to a message I sent you
    earlier today:
    Message-ID: <df5c7d3d349b5d21fdc22f1c3192b566@www.novabbs.com> I'm
    copying the link here because there's a chance you may not have seen it
    there.

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  • From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to W.Dockery on Wed Feb 19 02:23:20 2025
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.arts.poetry

    W.Dockery wrote:
    The "copy mid" function didn't work for me either, but I think if Retro
    Guy really wants to do anything about these trolls, there's ample
    evidence even for the casual observer.


    Just exactly what the fuck do you expect him to do, clueless donkey?

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  • From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to George J. Dance on Wed Feb 19 02:20:37 2025
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.arts.poetry

    George J. Dance wrote:
    I'd like to draw your attention to a message I sent you
    earlier today:
    Message-ID: <df5c7d3d349b5d21fdc22f1c3192b566@www.novabbs.com> I'm
    copying the link here because there's a chance you may not have seen it there.


    http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=173994959400 <- ROFL!

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  • From Retro Guy@21:1/5 to George J. Dance on Wed Feb 19 14:48:23 2025
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.arts.poetry

    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 1:32:27 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 23:08:55 +0000, Retro Guy wrote:

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 22:48:37 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

    Retro Guy, I'm not well versed in message ID and such, but here's a link >>> that might be useful:

    https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=256958&group=alt.arts.poetry.comments#256958

    I wouldn't call that impersonation, as it clearly says 'NancyGene' in
    the From header. Whether George wrote that or not, I don't know, but
    it's not really impersonation.

    Also, please get familiar with Message-ID, as that is how Usenet admins
    find things, and also how you can send an article "link" to someone
    using a newsreader that is not NovaBBS or jaforum.

    Just click 'copy mid' and it's in your clipboard. Then just paste it
    into a message.

    Thank you. I'd never used that part of the page editor before. The copy
    mid" function doesn't seem to work for me, but the "show headers" link
    to the left of it works fine, and I can copy the messageID from there.
    In that light, I'd like to draw your attention to a message I sent you earlier today:
    Message-ID: <df5c7d3d349b5d21fdc22f1c3192b566@www.novabbs.com> I'm
    copying the link here because there's a chance you may not have seen it there.

    Taking a look. It will take me some time as I am traveling right now.
    I'm currently in a hotel so not at my desk at home.

    --
    Retro Guy

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  • From HarryLime@21:1/5 to W.Dockery on Wed Feb 19 15:26:48 2025
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.arts.poetry

    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 14:43:21 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 12:19:20 +0000, NancyGene wrote:

    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 9:36:08 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 23:08:55 +0000, Retro Guy wrote:

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 22:48:37 +0000, Will Dockery wrote:

    Retro Guy, I'm not well versed in message ID and such, but here's a link >>>>> that might be useful:

    https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=256958&group=alt.arts.poetry.comments#256958

    I wouldn't call that impersonation, as it clearly says 'NancyGene' in
    the From header. Whether George wrote that or not, I don't know, but
    it's not really impersonation.

    George Dance wrote the exact words that were quoted. He was given
    attribution.

    Okay, George Dance was actually thinking it can be considered forgery
    since he didn't write the poem he's attributed as writer on.
    George Dance wrote those exact words.

    Also, please get familiar with Message-ID, as that is how Usenet admins >>>> find things, and also how you can send an article "link" to someone
    using a newsreader that is not NovaBBS or jaforum.

    Okay, I'm working on that.

    Just click 'copy mid' and it's in your clipboard. Then just paste it
    into a message.

    For some reason that didn't happen for me, I'm not sure if the problem
    is here on my gizmo or there at Nova BBS.
    "Copy MID" worked fine for us. The reason it didn't work for Will
    Dockery and George Dance is that they are computer (and in other ways)
    illiterate.

    --

    I've been using computers since the 1980s and have been on Usenet (via
    mostly Google Groups) since 1998.

    I am on a mobile gizmo now so that might have given me some problems
    getting that function to work.

    The problem here is obvious though, Nancy Gene is a troll who decided to harass George Dance.

    And so it goes.

    NancyGene hadn't posted here for over a year.

    She only returned because George Dance falsely accused her of
    plagiarism.

    When someone libels you in a public forum, you have the right to
    challenge them.

    George Dance also brought me back to AAPC after a year's absence, by
    making libelous statements against me as well.

    As previously noted: George Dance has been using Usenet groups to libel
    those he's fought with in the past. We can't press charges, because Mr.
    Dance lives in Canada (while we live in the U.S.), but we can ask that
    he be stopped from using this forum as a platform for launching such
    attacks.

    ATTN Retro Guy: Please ban George Dance from rec.arts.poems, alt.arts.poetry.comments, and alt.arts.poetry as he is using these
    platforms to falsely accuse others of plagiarism.

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  • From George J. Dance@21:1/5 to HarryLime on Fri Feb 21 10:27:24 2025
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.arts.poetry

    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 15:26:43 +0000, Michael Monkey Peabrain (MMP) aka
    HarryLime wrote:

    NancyGene hadn't posted here for over a year.

    Nor did you post on aapc, for almost a year, after Google shut down. You returned at the end of January, after you'd learned how to post at
    NovaBBS, and your NastyGoon followed you here about two weeks later.

    She only returned because George Dance falsely accused her of
    plagiarism.

    If you mean that NastyGoon returned after someone falsely told her that
    I'd accused them of plagiarism, that's correct. (Since you're the only
    one who was spreading that story here on aapc, presumably that someone
    is you.)

    When someone libels you in a public forum, you have the right to
    challenge them.

    Indeed; and after you've been told, by the person who's supposed to have libeled you, that they hadn't said that, you'd normally drop it rather
    than repeating the false allegation of libel; not help spread it.

    George Dance also brought me back to AAPC after a year's absence, by
    making libelous statements against me as well.

    Now this is new. Just what where the libelous stories that you claim I
    was making against you in February? I don't recall talking about you at
    all.

    As previously noted: George Dance has been using Usenet groups to libel
    those he's fought with in the past.

    I think you mean "previously" claimed that which is true for the alleged "libel" of NastyGoon, which we've seen didn't happen. As for the alleged "libel" or "libels" of you, those haven't been investigated, since
    (despite what you just implied) you haven't mentioned those previously.
    Would you mind explaining what you're talking about?

    We can't press charges, because Mr.
    Dance lives in Canada (while we live in the U.S.)

    Actually, neither of you can press charges because you're both anonymous
    troll. First, you can't press charges without using your real names and
    blowing your cover; and neither of you want to do that. Second, you'd
    have to try to convince a judge that what I've written about anonymous
    trolls on Usenet somehow impacts your personal life; that is, that
    people who read what I've written about two anonymous accounts would
    somehow connect it with the real people posting as them; which no one
    has or would do.

    but we can ask that
    he be stopped from using this forum as a platform for launching such
    attacks.

    ATTN Retro Guy: Please ban George Dance from rec.arts.poems, alt.arts.poetry.comments, and alt.arts.poetry as he is using these
    platforms to falsely accuse others of plagiarism.

    So not only are you repeating your falsely allegation that I accused
    your NastyGoon colleague of plagiarism, but you're now also alleging
    that I've also accused you of plagiarism sometime before you resumed
    posting on aapc. That's news to me, so again I'll ask you: Would you
    care to explain what you're talking about?

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  • From HarryLime@21:1/5 to George J. Dance on Fri Feb 21 18:59:19 2025
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.arts.poetry

    On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 10:27:21 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:

    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 15:26:43 +0000, Michael Monkey Peabrain (MMP) aka HarryLime wrote:

    NancyGene hadn't posted here for over a year.

    Nor did you post on aapc, for almost a year, after Google shut down. You returned at the end of January, after you'd learned how to post at
    NovaBBS, and your NastyGoon followed you here about two weeks later.


    You may have required a course in basic computers to post here, George,
    but most of us can figure it out on sight.


    She only returned because George Dance falsely accused her of
    plagiarism.

    If you mean that NastyGoon returned after someone falsely told her that
    I'd accused them of plagiarism, that's correct. (Since you're the only
    one who was spreading that story here on aapc, presumably that someone
    is you.)

    Why should it matter how NancyGene found out that you were libeling her?
    The only thing that matters is that you did.



    When someone libels you in a public forum, you have the right to
    challenge them.

    Indeed; and after you've been told, by the person who's supposed to have libeled you, that they hadn't said that, you'd normally drop it rather
    than repeating the false allegation of libel; not help spread it.

    Your back pedaling doesn't change the fact that you'd libeled her,
    George.

    Instead of denying that you'd made such an accusation (when everyone can
    see that you have), why don't you just post a retraction (stating that NancyGene has not "lifted" any lines of poetry from Robert Creeley or
    anyone else)?

    And then offer an apology for having made such an unfounded accusation
    in the first place.


    George Dance also brought me back to AAPC after a year's absence, by
    making libelous statements against me as well.

    Now this is new. Just what where the libelous stories that you claim I
    was making against you in February? I don't recall talking about you at
    all.

    No? Then where did all the "Michael Monkey" threads come from?


    As previously noted: George Dance has been using Usenet groups to libel
    those he's fought with in the past.

    I think you mean "previously" claimed that which is true for the alleged "libel" of NastyGoon, which we've seen didn't happen. As for the alleged "libel" or "libels" of you, those haven't been investigated, since
    (despite what you just implied) you haven't mentioned those previously.
    Would you mind explaining what you're talking about?

    Why have you put "previously" in quotation marks, George?

    I had spelled it correctly. The only other reason for placing a word in quotation marks is to imply that the word is incorrect.

    In all seriousness, I'm worried about you, George. You seem to be in
    the early stages of dementia or alzheimer's.

    If you're not already being treated by a physician, I strongly suggest
    that you see one ASAP.

    We can't press charges, because Mr.
    Dance lives in Canada (while we live in the U.S.)

    Actually, neither of you can press charges because you're both anonymous troll. First, you can't press charges without using your real names and blowing your cover; and neither of you want to do that. Second, you'd
    have to try to convince a judge that what I've written about anonymous
    trolls on Usenet somehow impacts your personal life; that is, that
    people who read what I've written about two anonymous accounts would
    somehow connect it with the real people posting as them; which no one
    has or would do.

    Both NancyGene and I have been published under our supposedly
    "anonymous" names, George.

    As professional writers, we are known by our pennames. If you libel us
    under our pennames, you libel us in a manner that can have adverse repercussions on our careers.



    but we can ask that
    he be stopped from using this forum as a platform for launching such
    attacks.

    ATTN Retro Guy: Please ban George Dance from rec.arts.poems,
    alt.arts.poetry.comments, and alt.arts.poetry as he is using these
    platforms to falsely accuse others of plagiarism.

    So not only are you repeating your falsely allegation that I accused
    your NastyGoon colleague of plagiarism, but you're now also alleging
    that I've also accused you of plagiarism sometime before you resumed
    posting on aapc. That's news to me, so again I'll ask you: Would you
    care to explain what you're talking about?

    It isn't at all difficult to open up NovaBBS in a second tab, George,

    This thread dates from January 16, 2025. You will note the "MMP"
    pointed out in its title:

    https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=254736&group=alt.arts.poetry.comments#254736

    Which again begs the age of question of "Why do you lie so much,
    D[a]nce?"

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  • From HarryLime@21:1/5 to NancyGene on Sat Feb 22 01:50:18 2025
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.arts.poetry

    On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 22:21:09 +0000, NancyGene wrote:

    On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 18:59:15 +0000, HarryLime wrote:

    On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 10:27:21 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:

    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 15:26:43 +0000, Michael Monkey Peabrain (MMP) aka
    HarryLime wrote:

    NancyGene hadn't posted here for over a year.

    Nor did you post on aapc, for almost a year, after Google shut down. You >>> returned at the end of January, after you'd learned how to post at
    NovaBBS, and your NastyGoon followed you here about two weeks later.


    You may have required a course in basic computers to post here, George,
    but most of us can figure it out on sight.
    So easy, even a pissbum can do it.


    She only returned because George Dance falsely accused her of
    plagiarism.

    If you mean that NastyGoon returned after someone falsely told her that
    I'd accused them of plagiarism, that's correct. (Since you're the only
    one who was spreading that story here on aapc, presumably that someone
    is you.)

    Why should it matter how NancyGene found out that you were libeling her?
    The only thing that matters is that you did.

    Lawyer NancyGene was also concerned.



    When someone libels you in a public forum, you have the right to
    challenge them.

    Indeed; and after you've been told, by the person who's supposed to have >>> libeled you, that they hadn't said that, you'd normally drop it rather
    than repeating the false allegation of libel; not help spread it.

    Your back pedaling doesn't change the fact that you'd libeled her,
    George.
    Lawyer NancyGene affirms that George Dance committed libel.

    Instead of denying that you'd made such an accusation (when everyone can
    see that you have), why don't you just post a retraction (stating that
    NancyGene has not "lifted" any lines of poetry from Robert Creeley or
    anyone else)?
    George Dance could never admit that he made a big or small mistake.


    And then offer an apology for having made such an unfounded accusation
    in the first place.
    George Dance does not seem to be in control of himself.


    George Dance also brought me back to AAPC after a year's absence, by
    making libelous statements against me as well.

    Now this is new. Just what where the libelous stories that you claim I
    was making against you in February? I don't recall talking about you at
    all.

    No? Then where did all the "Michael Monkey" threads come from?


    As previously noted: George Dance has been using Usenet groups to libel >>>> those he's fought with in the past.

    I think you mean "previously" claimed that which is true for the alleged >>> "libel" of NastyGoon, which we've seen didn't happen. As for the alleged >>> "libel" or "libels" of you, those haven't been investigated, since
    (despite what you just implied) you haven't mentioned those previously.
    Would you mind explaining what you're talking about?

    Why have you put "previously" in quotation marks, George?

    I had spelled it correctly. The only other reason for placing a word in
    quotation marks is to imply that the word is incorrect.

    "Previously" brings about fond memories of when spankings were in
    flower.


    In all seriousness, I'm worried about you, George. You seem to be in
    the early stages of dementia or alzheimer's.
    Yes, we diagnosed that too a few days ago:
    Message-ID: <7167bbd52a471918acf299ba21d9742d@www.novabbs.com>
    George Dance shows all the classic symptoms, including lashing out in
    anger. He must suspect that something is wrong with him but is in
    denial and taking it out on others. He should not ignore our diagnosis, since we told Pickles that he had Frank's Sign, which was indicative of cardiovascular disease. Pickles died of a heart attack less than a year
    after we warned him (we didn't even send him a medical bill). George
    Dance should be sure that his insurance covers long-term treatment, especially in a memory care unit.

    The aggression that George Dance has been exhibiting on-line: "Verbal – for example, swearing, screaming, shouting or making threats. Physical
    – hitting, pinching, scratching, hair-pulling, biting or throwing
    things."
    We would have to interview George Dance's wife for the physical
    symptoms. https://www.alzheimers.org.uk/about-dementia/symptoms-and-diagnosis/symptoms/aggressive-behaviour-and-dementia


    If you're not already being treated by a physician, I strongly suggest
    that you see one ASAP.
    George Dance, tell them that Dr. NancyGene sent you.

    We can't press charges, because Mr.
    Dance lives in Canada (while we live in the U.S.)

    Actually, neither of you can press charges because you're both anonymous >>> troll. First, you can't press charges without using your real names and
    blowing your cover; and neither of you want to do that. Second, you'd
    have to try to convince a judge that what I've written about anonymous
    trolls on Usenet somehow impacts your personal life; that is, that
    people who read what I've written about two anonymous accounts would
    somehow connect it with the real people posting as them; which no one
    has or would do.
    We could form a corporation to sue you, George Dance.

    Both NancyGene and I have been published under our supposedly
    "anonymous" names, George.

    As professional writers, we are known by our pennames. If you libel us
    under our pennames, you libel us in a manner that can have adverse
    repercussions on our careers.
    Similarly, if George Dance is known as a liar, a person who commits plagiarism or accuses others of plagiarism or forgery without proof,
    whatever reputation he is trying to protect is gone.

    AFAICS, the only reputation George Dance has ever established is that of
    being a pathological liar ("Why do you lie so much, D[a]nce?")

    but we can ask that
    he be stopped from using this forum as a platform for launching such
    attacks.

    ATTN Retro Guy: Please ban George Dance from rec.arts.poems,
    alt.arts.poetry.comments, and alt.arts.poetry as he is using these
    platforms to falsely accuse others of plagiarism.
    We support that request. George Dance should be in treatment, not
    posting hostilities and lies.


    So not only are you repeating your falsely allegation that I accused
    your NastyGoon colleague of plagiarism, but you're now also alleging
    that I've also accused you of plagiarism sometime before you resumed
    posting on aapc. That's news to me, so again I'll ask you: Would you
    care to explain what you're talking about?

    It isn't at all difficult to open up NovaBBS in a second tab, George,
    It is if you are using an antique computer or a TracFone.

    This thread dates from January 16, 2025. You will note the "MMP"
    pointed out in its title:

    https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=254736&group=alt.arts.poetry.comments#254736

    Which again begs the age of question of "Why do you lie so much,
    D[a]nce?"

    Lying is a common sign of dementia: "Confabulation," "Anxiety and
    Paranois" https://www.alzheimers.org.uk/about-dementia/symptoms-and-diagnosis/symptoms/aggressive-behaviour-and-dementia


    Looks like we've established a concensus diagnosis here.

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  • From George J. Dance@21:1/5 to NancyGene on Tue Feb 25 15:14:05 2025
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.arts.poetry

    On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 22:21:09 +0000, NancyGene wrote:

    On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 18:59:15 +0000, Michael Monkey Peabrain (MMP) aka "HarryLime" wrote:

    On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 10:27:21 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:

    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 15:26:43 +0000, Michael Monkey Peabrain (MMP) aka
    HarryLime wrote:

    NancyGene hadn't posted here for over a year.

    Nor did you post on aapc, for almost a year, after Google shut down. You >>> returned at the end of January, after you'd learned how to post at
    NovaBBS, and your NastyGoon followed you here about two weeks later.

    You may have required a course in basic computers to post here, George,
    but most of us can figure it out on sight.
    So easy, even a pissbum can do it.

    Which explains why it took you both a year.

    She only returned because George Dance falsely accused her of
    plagiarism.

    If you mean that NastyGoon returned after someone falsely told her that
    I'd accused them of plagiarism, that's correct. (Since you're the only
    one who was spreading that story here on aapc, presumably that someone
    is you.)

    Why should it matter how NancyGene found out that you were libeling her?
    The only thing that matters is that you did.

    I did not. You lied again, HarryLiar.

    Lawyer NancyGene was also concerned.
    When someone libels you in a public forum, you have the right to
    challenge them.

    Indeed; and after you've been told, by the person who's supposed to have >>> libeled you, that they hadn't said that, you'd normally drop it rather
    than repeating the false allegation of libel; not help spread it.

    Your back pedaling doesn't change the fact that you'd libeled her,
    George.

    You're repeating false story doesn't establish a "fact", HarryLiar.

    Lawyer NancyGene affirms that George Dance committed libel.

    Lawyer NancyGene has a fool for a client.

    Instead of denying that you'd made such an accusation (when everyone can
    see that you have), why don't you just post a retraction (stating that
    NancyGene has not "lifted" any lines of poetry from Robert Creeley or
    anyone else)?

    Why would I ever state that? I haven't even looked for it in the poetry
    of "anyone else".

    George Dance could never admit that he made a big or small mistake.

    Most recently, NastyGoon, I gave you a chance to admit you made a
    mistake when you accused me of calling you a plagiarist, NastyGoon. Like
    all the other times, I'm still waiting for you to admit that one.

    And then offer an apology for having made such an unfounded accusation
    in the first place.
    George Dance does not seem to be in control of himself.

    NastyGoon seems to have switched from amateur lawyer to amateur
    psychologist mid-post.

    George Dance also brought me back to AAPC after a year's absence, by
    making libelous statements against me as well.

    Now this is new. Just what where the libelous stories that you claim I
    was making against you in February? I don't recall talking about you at
    all.

    No? Then where did all the "Michael Monkey" threads come from?

    They're mostly "Lime Sock" threads actually. They were begun after you returned; check the dates.

    As previously noted: George Dance has been using Usenet groups to libel >>>> those he's fought with in the past.

    I think you mean "previously" claimed that which is true for the alleged >>> "libel" of NastyGoon, which we've seen didn't happen. As for the alleged >>> "libel" or "libels" of you, those haven't been investigated, since
    (despite what you just implied) you haven't mentioned those previously.
    Would you mind explaining what you're talking about?

    Why have you put "previously" in quotation marks, George?
    I had spelled it correctly. The only other reason for placing a word in
    quotation marks is to imply that the word is incorrect.

    Non-answer noted and laughed at.

    "Previously" brings about fond memories of when spankings were in
    flower.

    Are those spankings you got or that you gave, NastyGoon?

    In all seriousness, I'm worried about you, George. You seem to be in
    the early stages of dementia or alzheimer's.
    Yes, we diagnosed that too a few days ago:
    Message-ID: <7167bbd52a471918acf299ba21d9742d@www.novabbs.com>
    George Dance shows all the classic symptoms, including lashing out in
    anger. He must suspect that something is wrong with him but is in
    denial and taking it out on others. He should not ignore our diagnosis, since we told Pickles that he had Frank's Sign, which was indicative of cardiovascular disease. Pickles died of a heart attack less than a year
    after we warned him (we didn't even send him a medical bill). George
    Dance should be sure that his insurance covers long-term treatment, especially in a memory care unit.

    Now NastyGoon is jumped to amateur doctor mid-post.

    The aggression that George Dance has been exhibiting on-line: "Verbal – for example, swearing, screaming, shouting or making threats. Physical
    – hitting, pinching, scratching, hair-pulling, biting or throwing
    things."
    We would have to interview George Dance's wife for the physical
    symptoms. https://www.alzheimers.org.uk/about-dementia/symptoms-and-diagnosis/symptoms/aggressive-behaviour-and-dementia

    You'd have to get off your ass and do some work, if you expect anyone to
    be convinced by any of that.

    If you're not already being treated by a physician, I strongly suggest
    that you see one ASAP.

    All this because I asked you to explain what alleged "libels" you were
    whining about?

    George Dance, tell them that Dr. NancyGene sent you.

    Now "Dr." NastyGoon is lifting lines from Leonard Bernard Rosenman.

    We can't press charges, because Mr.
    Dance lives in Canada (while we live in the U.S.)

    Actually, neither of you can press charges because you're both anonymous >>> troll. First, you can't press charges without using your real names and
    blowing your cover; and neither of you want to do that. Second, you'd
    have to try to convince a judge that what I've written about anonymous
    trolls on Usenet somehow impacts your personal life; that is, that
    people who read what I've written about two anonymous accounts would
    somehow connect it with the real people posting as them; which no one
    has or would do.

    We could form a corporation to sue you, George Dance.

    But you'd have to use your names to register it. Checkmate.

    Both NancyGene and I have been published under our supposedly
    "anonymous" names, George.

    Self-published.

    As professional writers, we are known by our pennames. If you libel us
    under our pennames, you libel us in a manner that can have adverse
    repercussions on our careers.

    You play poets on facebook, HarryLiar. Those aren't "careers".

    Similarly, if George Dance is known as a liar, a person who commits plagiarism or accuses others of plagiarism or forgery without proof,
    whatever reputation he is trying to protect is gone.

    That is what happened to you, NastyGoon, when you began falsely accusing
    others of plagiarism on aapc. It's understandable that you'd want the
    same thing to happen to me.

    but we can ask that
    he be stopped from using this forum as a platform for launching such
    attacks.

    ATTN Retro Guy: Please ban George Dance from rec.arts.poems,
    alt.arts.poetry.comments, and alt.arts.poetry as he is using these
    platforms to falsely accuse others of plagiarism.
    We support that request. George Dance should be in treatment, not
    posting hostilities and lies.

    How is *that* working out for you both?

    So not only are you repeating your falsely allegation that I accused
    your NastyGoon colleague of plagiarism, but you're now also alleging
    that I've also accused you of plagiarism sometime before you resumed
    posting on aapc. That's news to me, so again I'll ask you: Would you
    care to explain what you're talking about?

    It isn't at all difficult to open up NovaBBS in a second tab, George,
    It is if you are using an antique computer or a TracFone.

    This thread dates from January 16, 2025. You will note the "MMP"
    pointed out in its title:

    https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=254736&group=alt.arts.poetry.comments#254736

    You're delusional, MMP. I searched the thread, and can't find one use of
    the word "plagiarism" in it.


    Which again begs the age of question of "Why do you lie so much,
    D[a]nce?"

    Why do you project so much, MMP?

    Lying is a common sign of dementia: "Confabulation," "Anxiety and
    Paranois" https://www.alzheimers.org.uk/about-dementia/symptoms-and-diagnosis/symptoms/aggressive-behaviour-and-dementia

    Self-diagnisis, "Dr." NastyGoon?

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  • From HarryLime@21:1/5 to George J. Dance on Tue Feb 25 16:19:13 2025
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.arts.poetry

    On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 15:14:00 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:

    On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 22:21:09 +0000, NancyGene wrote:

    On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 18:59:15 +0000, Michael Monkey Peabrain (MMP) aka
    "HarryLime" wrote:

    On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 10:27:21 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:

    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 15:26:43 +0000, Michael Monkey Peabrain (MMP) aka
    HarryLime wrote:

    NancyGene hadn't posted here for over a year.

    Nor did you post on aapc, for almost a year, after Google shut down. You >>>> returned at the end of January, after you'd learned how to post at
    NovaBBS, and your NastyGoon followed you here about two weeks later.

    You may have required a course in basic computers to post here, George,
    but most of us can figure it out on sight.
    So easy, even a pissbum can do it.

    Which explains why it took you both a year.

    She only returned because George Dance falsely accused her of
    plagiarism.

    If you mean that NastyGoon returned after someone falsely told her that >>>> I'd accused them of plagiarism, that's correct. (Since you're the only >>>> one who was spreading that story here on aapc, presumably that someone >>>> is you.)

    Why should it matter how NancyGene found out that you were libeling her? >>> The only thing that matters is that you did.

    I did not. You lied again, HarryLiar.

    Denial won't change the evidence, George... regardless of how many times
    you repeat it.

    PS: Stamping your foot while you say it doesn't really have any effect.


    Lawyer NancyGene was also concerned.
    When someone libels you in a public forum, you have the right to
    challenge them.

    Indeed; and after you've been told, by the person who's supposed to have >>>> libeled you, that they hadn't said that, you'd normally drop it rather >>>> than repeating the false allegation of libel; not help spread it.

    Your back pedaling doesn't change the fact that you'd libeled her,
    George.

    You're repeating false story doesn't establish a "fact", HarryLiar.


    The title of the thread you started was "NancyGene Lifts a line."

    Consider the fact established.


    Lawyer NancyGene affirms that George Dance committed libel.

    Lawyer NancyGene has a fool for a client.


    Name calling doesn't help your case any, George. It only shows that
    you've run out of arguments.


    Instead of denying that you'd made such an accusation (when everyone can >>> see that you have), why don't you just post a retraction (stating that
    NancyGene has not "lifted" any lines of poetry from Robert Creeley or
    anyone else)?

    Why would I ever state that? I haven't even looked for it in the poetry
    of "anyone else".

    Because you would claim that your "trusted source" (an AI bot) must have
    gotten the allegedly "lifted" line from someone.


    George Dance could never admit that he made a big or small mistake.

    Most recently, NastyGoon, I gave you a chance to admit you made a
    mistake when you accused me of calling you a plagiarist, NastyGoon. Like
    all the other times, I'm still waiting for you to admit that one.

    Whereas the rest of us are waiting for you to man up and apologize for
    your false accusations and offensive, misogynistic remarks.


    And then offer an apology for having made such an unfounded accusation
    in the first place.
    George Dance does not seem to be in control of himself.

    NastyGoon seems to have switched from amateur lawyer to amateur
    psychologist mid-post.

    George Dance also brought me back to AAPC after a year's absence, by >>>>> making libelous statements against me as well.

    Now this is new. Just what where the libelous stories that you claim I >>>> was making against you in February? I don't recall talking about you at >>>> all.

    No? Then where did all the "Michael Monkey" threads come from?

    They're mostly "Lime Sock" threads actually. They were begun after you returned; check the dates.

    Mostly, yes. But the one from January is the only one that's needed.


    As previously noted: George Dance has been using Usenet groups to libel >>>>> those he's fought with in the past.

    I think you mean "previously" claimed that which is true for the alleged >>>> "libel" of NastyGoon, which we've seen didn't happen. As for the alleged >>>> "libel" or "libels" of you, those haven't been investigated, since
    (despite what you just implied) you haven't mentioned those previously. >>>> Would you mind explaining what you're talking about?

    Why have you put "previously" in quotation marks, George?
    I had spelled it correctly. The only other reason for placing a word in >>> quotation marks is to imply that the word is incorrect.

    Non-answer noted and laughed at.

    I can't answer a question if I don't understand what the question is.
    If you tell me what you meant by "previously," I might be able to
    answer.


    "Previously" brings about fond memories of when spankings were in
    flower.

    Are those spankings you got or that you gave, NastyGoon?

    Stop playing dense, George. The spankings took place in "[Your]
    Father's House."


    In all seriousness, I'm worried about you, George. You seem to be in
    the early stages of dementia or alzheimer's.
    Yes, we diagnosed that too a few days ago:
    Message-ID: <7167bbd52a471918acf299ba21d9742d@www.novabbs.com>
    George Dance shows all the classic symptoms, including lashing out in
    anger. He must suspect that something is wrong with him but is in
    denial and taking it out on others. He should not ignore our diagnosis,
    since we told Pickles that he had Frank's Sign, which was indicative of
    cardiovascular disease. Pickles died of a heart attack less than a year
    after we warned him (we didn't even send him a medical bill). George
    Dance should be sure that his insurance covers long-term treatment,
    especially in a memory care unit.

    Now NastyGoon is jumped to amateur doctor mid-post.

    Your symptoms show early signs of dementia. Well, not really that
    early, since the disease takes root long before the symptoms begin to
    show.

    And it's important for everyone to be up front about it.

    After all, it's against my personal ethics to spank someone whose mental facilities are deteriorating.



    The aggression that George Dance has been exhibiting on-line: "Verbal – >> for example, swearing, screaming, shouting or making threats. Physical
    – hitting, pinching, scratching, hair-pulling, biting or throwing
    things."
    We would have to interview George Dance's wife for the physical
    symptoms.
    https://www.alzheimers.org.uk/about-dementia/symptoms-and-diagnosis/symptoms/aggressive-behaviour-and-dementia

    You'd have to get off your ass and do some work, if you expect anyone to
    be convinced by any of that.

    You're doing the online equivalent of it here. That you would be
    subject to violent physical outburst is real life seems like a natural conclusion to draw.


    If you're not already being treated by a physician, I strongly suggest
    that you see one ASAP.

    All this because I asked you to explain what alleged "libels" you were whining about?

    The ones you made, silly George.

    Your memory really seems to be impaired when you can't even remember
    titling a thread "NancyGene Lifts a line."



    George Dance, tell them that Dr. NancyGene sent you.

    Now "Dr." NastyGoon is lifting lines from Leonard Bernard Rosenman.

    You're grasping, George.

    "From the spankatorium in My Father's House
    To Boy George's bedroom where, quiet as a mouse
    Little George lay waiting with his pants down to his knees
    For his Father's belt was always bound to please.

    "They did the bash!
    They did the butthurt bash!
    The butthurt bash!
    It was a Canuck smash!
    They did the bash!
    As Daddy bashed George's a&&!
    They did the bash!
    They did the butthurt bash!"



    We can't press charges, because Mr.
    Dance lives in Canada (while we live in the U.S.)

    Actually, neither of you can press charges because you're both anonymous >>>> troll. First, you can't press charges without using your real names and >>>> blowing your cover; and neither of you want to do that. Second, you'd >>>> have to try to convince a judge that what I've written about anonymous >>>> trolls on Usenet somehow impacts your personal life; that is, that
    people who read what I've written about two anonymous accounts would
    somehow connect it with the real people posting as them; which no one
    has or would do.

    We could form a corporation to sue you, George Dance.

    But you'd have to use your names to register it. Checkmate.

    Are you that obsessed that you would risk a libel trial just to find out
    our names?


    Both NancyGene and I have been published under our supposedly
    "anonymous" names, George.

    Self-published.

    Lie.

    My first short story collection was published by BJM Press in England.
    My works have appeared in over 200 small press publications.

    Here's my most recent one:
    https://blackpetalsks.tripod.com/blackpetalsissue76/



    As professional writers, we are known by our pennames. If you libel us
    under our pennames, you libel us in a manner that can have adverse
    repercussions on our careers.

    You play poets on facebook, HarryLiar. Those aren't "careers".

    https://www.pw.org/directory/writers/michael_m_pendragon



    Similarly, if George Dance is known as a liar, a person who commits
    plagiarism or accuses others of plagiarism or forgery without proof,
    whatever reputation he is trying to protect is gone.

    That is what happened to you, NastyGoon, when you began falsely accusing others of plagiarism on aapc. It's understandable that you'd want the
    same thing to happen to me.

    WTF are you talking about, George?

    NancyGene's reputation as a talented poet has only increased over the
    years.

    Yours, otoh...




    but we can ask that
    he be stopped from using this forum as a platform for launching such >>>>> attacks.

    ATTN Retro Guy: Please ban George Dance from rec.arts.poems,
    alt.arts.poetry.comments, and alt.arts.poetry as he is using these
    platforms to falsely accuse others of plagiarism.
    We support that request. George Dance should be in treatment, not
    posting hostilities and lies.

    How is *that* working out for you both?

    I haven't been pursuing it, George. After all, I only intend to be here
    until Friday. But if you keep pushing, I just might.


    So not only are you repeating your falsely allegation that I accused
    your NastyGoon colleague of plagiarism, but you're now also alleging
    that I've also accused you of plagiarism sometime before you resumed
    posting on aapc. That's news to me, so again I'll ask you: Would you
    care to explain what you're talking about?

    It isn't at all difficult to open up NovaBBS in a second tab, George,
    It is if you are using an antique computer or a TracFone.

    This thread dates from January 16, 2025. You will note the "MMP"
    pointed out in its title:

    https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=254736&group=alt.arts.poetry.comments#254736

    You're delusional, MMP. I searched the thread, and can't find one use of
    the word "plagiarism" in it.

    There are other ways to libel one, George.

    Which again begs the age of question of "Why do you lie so much,
    D[a]nce?"

    Why do you project so much, MMP?

    Why do you IKYABWAI so much, George?


    Lying is a common sign of dementia: "Confabulation," "Anxiety and
    Paranois"
    https://www.alzheimers.org.uk/about-dementia/symptoms-and-diagnosis/symptoms/aggressive-behaviour-and-dementia

    Self-diagnisis, "Dr." NastyGoon?


    Again, why do you IKYABWAI so much, George?

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