• Re: George Dance boosts a poem from Honest Abe

    From Cujo DeSockpuppet@21:1/5 to NancyGene on Fri Apr 11 00:29:14 2025
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.poetry

    nancygene.andjayme@gmail.com (NancyGene) wrote in news:3fa8e5c45aaa20975f62914cbfb28924@www.novabbs.com:

    It's obvious that George Dance based his poem "My Father's House" on
    Abraham Lincoln's poem "My Childhood Home I See Again." As far as we
    know, Lincoln lived before George Dance, so Lincoln wrote his poem
    first.

    The two poems are too similar to be a mere coincidence. George Dance
    changed a few words and the outcome, but it is Abe's poem. Lincoln's
    father even built the home, with Abraham helping. He walks through the
    rooms of memory. He had chores (George used this) and playmates
    (George changed this to no playmates). They both had a garden. George changed the timeframe from 13 years ago to 20 years ago. Abe says half
    of his companions are now dead--George changed this to only his father
    being dead. Note that Abe uses the tomb analogy, and George Dance
    writes "Where I'd be shut (as in a tomb)."

    We know that George Dance is Canadian, but that doesn't give him the
    right to steal poems from one of the U.S.'s greatest presidents. We
    are sickened.
    -----

    My Childhood Home I See Again
    by Abraham Lincoln (1846)

    My childhood home I see again,
    And sadden with the view;
    And still, as memory crowds my brain,
    There's pleasure in it too.

    O Memory! thou midway world
    'Twixt earth and paradise,
    Where things decayed and loved ones lost
    In dreamy shadows rise,

    And, freed from all that's earthly vile,
    Seem hallowed, pure, and bright,
    Like scenes in some enchanted isle
    All bathed in liquid light.

    As dusky mountains please the eye
    When twilight chases day;
    As bugle-notes that, passing by,
    In distance die away;

    As leaving some grand waterfall,
    We, lingering, list its roar—
    So memory will hallow all
    We've known, but know no more.

    Near twenty years have passed away
    Since here I bid farewell
    To woods and fields, and scenes of play,
    And playmates loved so well.

    Where many were, but few remain
    Of old familiar things;
    But seeing them, to mind again
    The lost and absent brings.

    The friends I left that parting day,
    How changed, as time has sped!
    Young childhood grown, strong manhood gray,
    And half of all are dead.

    I hear the loved survivors tell
    How nought from death could save,
    Till every sound appears a knell,
    And every spot a grave.

    I range the fields with pensive tread,
    And pace the hollow rooms,
    And feel (companion of the dead)
    I'm living in the tombs.


    The Death of Shame by Cujo DeSockpuppet.

    <ahem>
    Shame has died and is no more.
    Dunce has shown it out the door.
    Dreckster made it such a bore.
    Of course it's all been seen before.


    <BOWS>

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  • From HarryLime@21:1/5 to NancyGene on Fri Apr 11 16:01:44 2025
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    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 10:26:35 +0000, NancyGene wrote:

    On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 21:39:10 +0000, NancyGene wrote:

    It's obvious that George Dance based his poem "My Father's House" on
    Abraham Lincoln's poem "My Childhood Home I See Again." As far as we
    know, Lincoln lived before George Dance, so Lincoln wrote his poem
    first.

    The two poems are too similar to be a mere coincidence. George Dance
    changed a few words and the outcome, but it is Abe's poem. Lincoln's
    father even built the home, with Abraham helping. He walks through the
    rooms of memory. He had chores (George used this) and playmates (George
    changed this to no playmates). They both had a garden. George changed
    the timeframe from 13 years ago to 20 years ago. Abe says half of his
    companions are now dead--George changed this to only his father being
    dead. Note that Abe uses the tomb analogy, and George Dance writes
    "Where I'd be shut (as in a tomb)."

    We know that George Dance is Canadian, but that doesn't give him the
    right to steal poems from one of the U.S.'s greatest presidents. We are
    sickened.
    -----

    My Childhood Home I See Again
    by Abraham Lincoln (1846)

    My childhood home I see again,
    And sadden with the view;
    And still, as memory crowds my brain,
    There's pleasure in it too.

    O Memory! thou midway world
    'Twixt earth and paradise,
    Where things decayed and loved ones lost
    In dreamy shadows rise,

    And, freed from all that's earthly vile,
    Seem hallowed, pure, and bright,
    Like scenes in some enchanted isle
    All bathed in liquid light.

    As dusky mountains please the eye
    When twilight chases day;
    As bugle-notes that, passing by,
    In distance die away;

    As leaving some grand waterfall,
    We, lingering, list its roar—
    So memory will hallow all
    We've known, but know no more.

    Near twenty years have passed away
    Since here I bid farewell
    To woods and fields, and scenes of play,
    And playmates loved so well.

    Where many were, but few remain
    Of old familiar things;
    But seeing them, to mind again
    The lost and absent brings.

    The friends I left that parting day,
    How changed, as time has sped!
    Young childhood grown, strong manhood gray,
    And half of all are dead.

    I hear the loved survivors tell
    How nought from death could save,
    Till every sound appears a knell,
    And every spot a grave.

    I range the fields with pensive tread,
    And pace the hollow rooms,
    And feel (companion of the dead)
    I'm living in the tombs.

    This is just one of many poems that George Dance has stolen from other people.

    --

    Stealing from Honest Abe??? It figures.

    At least President Lincoln never waited in bed with his pajama pants
    pulled down waiting for his father to whip him.

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  • From HarryLime@21:1/5 to NancyGene on Sat Apr 12 02:36:32 2025
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    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 18:57:24 +0000, NancyGene wrote:

    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 16:01:41 +0000, HarryLime wrote:

    On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 10:26:35 +0000, NancyGene wrote:

    On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 21:39:10 +0000, NancyGene wrote:

    It's obvious that George Dance based his poem "My Father's House" on
    Abraham Lincoln's poem "My Childhood Home I See Again." As far as we
    know, Lincoln lived before George Dance, so Lincoln wrote his poem
    first.

    The two poems are too similar to be a mere coincidence. George Dance
    changed a few words and the outcome, but it is Abe's poem. Lincoln's
    father even built the home, with Abraham helping. He walks through the >>>> rooms of memory. He had chores (George used this) and playmates (George >>>> changed this to no playmates). They both had a garden. George changed >>>> the timeframe from 13 years ago to 20 years ago. Abe says half of his
    companions are now dead--George changed this to only his father being
    dead. Note that Abe uses the tomb analogy, and George Dance writes
    "Where I'd be shut (as in a tomb)."

    We know that George Dance is Canadian, but that doesn't give him the
    right to steal poems from one of the U.S.'s greatest presidents. We are >>>> sickened.
    -----

    My Childhood Home I See Again
    by Abraham Lincoln (1846)

    My childhood home I see again,
    And sadden with the view;
    And still, as memory crowds my brain,
    There's pleasure in it too.

    O Memory! thou midway world
    'Twixt earth and paradise,
    Where things decayed and loved ones lost
    In dreamy shadows rise,

    And, freed from all that's earthly vile,
    Seem hallowed, pure, and bright,
    Like scenes in some enchanted isle
    All bathed in liquid light.

    As dusky mountains please the eye
    When twilight chases day;
    As bugle-notes that, passing by,
    In distance die away;

    As leaving some grand waterfall,
    We, lingering, list its roar—
    So memory will hallow all
    We've known, but know no more.

    Near twenty years have passed away
    Since here I bid farewell
    To woods and fields, and scenes of play,
    And playmates loved so well.

    Where many were, but few remain
    Of old familiar things;
    But seeing them, to mind again
    The lost and absent brings.

    The friends I left that parting day,
    How changed, as time has sped!
    Young childhood grown, strong manhood gray,
    And half of all are dead.

    I hear the loved survivors tell
    How nought from death could save,
    Till every sound appears a knell,
    And every spot a grave.

    I range the fields with pensive tread,
    And pace the hollow rooms,
    And feel (companion of the dead)
    I'm living in the tombs.

    This is just one of many poems that George Dance has stolen from other
    people.

    --

    Stealing from Honest Abe??? It figures.

    At least President Lincoln never waited in bed with his pajama pants
    pulled down waiting for his father to whip him.

    I don't understand how George Dance can be so blatant in his
    plagiarism--in stealing from Abraham Lincoln. Abe's poem is much
    superior, his father built a house without having the directions from a
    box, and of course Abe wasn't beaten, was popular, and didn't live in
    Canada.

    --

    You've forgotten the most important thing: Abraham Lincoln was an
    extremely
    successful politician. George Dance was an abject failure.

    --

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