Will Dockery wrote:
Not my favorite Allen Ginsberg work, as I mentioned earlier.
Important work in a very obscure genre though...
Zod wrote:
Will Dockery wrote:
Not my favorite Allen Ginsberg work, as I mentioned earlier.
Important work in a very obscure genre though...
"Gay Erotica" is no longer obscure now, of course.
🙂
Will Dockery wrote:own "disagreeable sensations" but praised him for his "low-life narrative". This is a reference to Lawrence's dialect poems akin to the Scots poems of Robert Burns, in which he reproduced the language and concerns of the people of Nottinghamshire from
Zod wrote:
Will Dockery wrote:
Not my favorite Allen Ginsberg work, as I mentioned earlier.
Important work in a very obscure genre though...
"Gay Erotica" is no longer obscure now, of course.
🙂
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erotic_literature#20th_century
***********20th century
Although D. H. Lawrence could be regarded as a writer of love poems, he usually dealt in the less romantic aspects of love such as sexual frustration or the sex act itself. Ezra Pound, in his Literary Essays, complained of Lawrence's interest in his
From the age of 17, Gavin Ewart acquired a reputation for wit and accomplishment through such works as "Phallus in Wonderland" and "Poems and Songs", which appeared in 1939 and was his first collection. The intelligence and casually flamboyantvirtuosity with which he framed his often humorous commentaries on human behaviour made his work invariably entertaining and interesting. The irreverent eroticism for which his poetry is noted resulted in W H Smith's banning of his "The Pleasures of the
Canadian poet John Glassco wrote Squire Hardman (1967), a long poem in heroic couplets, purporting to be a reprint of an 18th-century poem by George Colman the Younger, on the theme of flagellation.[25]
Italian Una Chi distinguished herself among other publications for coldly analytical prose and for the crudeness of the stories.******************
I suppose the genre is gay erotica.
Will Dockery wrote:
I suppose the genre is gay erotica.
Quite obviously I daresay... ha ha.
General-Zod wrote:
Will Dockery wrote:
I suppose the genre is gay erotica.
Quite obviously I daresay... ha ha.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
:)
Will Dockery wrote:
I suppose the genre is gay erotica.
Quite obviously I daresay... ha ha.
General-Zod wrote:
Will Dockery wrote:
I suppose the genre is gay erotica.
Quite obviously I daresay... ha ha.
But zero child molester content.
HTH and HAND.
By the way, you were also shown to be mistaken about the "Please Master" poem on the Allen Ginsberg thread, while we're taking count, Pendragon.
No wonder you dropped that thread.
HTH and HAND.
Will Dockery wrote:
By the way, you were also shown to be mistaken about the "Please Master" poem on the Allen Ginsberg thread, while we're taking count, Pendragon.
No wonder you dropped that thread.
HTH and HAND.
Yep....
https://slate.com/human-interest/2015/05/a-high-school-teacher-shared-allen-ginsburg-poem-and-had-to-resign.html
************************** “Please Master” is discomfiting and profane, an explicit account of a fantasized sexual encounter between Ginsberg and Neal Cassady, the inspiration for the Dean Moriarty character in Jack Kerouac’s On the Road. *******************************
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Exhibit A
On Thursday, January 18, 2018 at 3:39:09 PM UTC-5, drive-by wrote:
Sphincter
I hope my good old asshole holds out
60 years it's been mostly OK
Tho in Bolivia a fissure operation
survived the altiplano hospital--
a little blood, no polyps, occasionally
a small hemorrhoid
active, eager, receptive to phallus
coke bottle, candle, carrot
banana & fingers -
Now AIDS makes it shy, but still
eager to serve -
out with the dumps, in with the condom'd
orgasmic friend -
still rubbery muscular,
unashamed wide open for joy
But another 20 years who knows,
old folks got troubles everywhere -
necks, prostates, stomachs, joints--
Hope the old hole stays young
till death, relax
Allen Ginsberg
Exhibit B
On Thursday, January 18, 2018 at 7:11:33 PM UTC-5, BPJ wrote:
Please Master by Allen Ginsberg
Please master can I touch your cheeck
please master can I kneel at your feet
please master can I loosen your blue pants
please master can I gaze at your golden haired belly
please master can I have your thighs bare to my eyes
please master can I take off my clothes below your chair
please master can I can I kiss your ankles and soul
please master can I touch lips to your hard muscle hairless thigh
please master can I lay my ear pressed to your stomach
please master can I wrap my arms around your white ass
please master can I lick your groin gurled with blond soft fur
please master can I touch my tongue to your rosy asshole
please master may I pass my face to your balls,
please master order me down on the floor,
please master tell me to lick your thick shaft
please master put your rough hands on my bald hairy skull
please master press my mouth to your prick-heart
please master press my face into your belly, pull me slowly strong thumbed >> till your dumb hardness fills my throat to the base
till I swallow and taste your delicate flesh-hot prick barrel veined
Please
Mater push my shoulders away and stare in my eyes, & make me bend over
the table
please master grab my thighs and lift my ass to your waist
please master your hand's rough stroke on my neck your palm down to my
backside
please master push me, my feet on chairs, till my hole feels the breath of >> your spit and your thumb stroke
please master make my say Please Master Fuck me now Please
Master grease my balls and hairmouth with sweet vaselines
please master stroke your shaft with white creams
please master touch your cock head to my wrinkled self-hole
please master push it in gently, your elbows enwrapped round my breast
your arms passing down to my belly, my penis you touch w/ your fingers
please master shove it in me a little, a little, a little,
please master sink your droor thing down my behind
& please master make me wiggle my rear to eat up the prick trunk
till my asshalfs cuddle your thighs, my back bent over,
till I'm alone sticking out, your sword stuck throbbing in me
please master pull out and slowly roll onto the bottom
please master lunge it again, and withdraw the tip
please please master fuck me again with your self, please fuck me Please
Master drive down till it hurts me the softness the
Softness please master make love to my ass, give body to center, & fuck me >> for good like a girl,
tenderly clasp me please master I take me to thee,
& drive in my belly your selfsame sweet heat-rood
you fingered in solitude Denver or Brooklyn or fucked in a maiden in Paris >> carlots
please master drive me thy vehicle, body of love drops, sweat fuck
body of tenderness, Give me your dogh fuck faster
please master make me go moan on the table
Go moan O please master do fuck me like that
in your rhythm thrill-plunge & pull-back-bounce & push down
till I loosen my asshole a dog on the table yelping with terror delight to >> be
loved
Please master call me a dog, an ass beast, a wet asshole,
& fuck me more violent, my eyes hid with your palms round my skull
& plunge down in a brutal hard lash thru soft drip-fish
& throb thru five seconds to spurt out your semen heat
over & over, bamming it in while I cry out your name I do love you
please Master.
May 1968
"George J. Dance" wrote in message
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Exhibit A
On Thursday, January 18, 2018 at 3:39:09 PM UTC-5, drive-by wrote:
Sphincter
Like I said, agreed, not his best but reposted for archival purposes.
And so it goes.
Will Dockery wrote:
"George J. Dance" wrote in message
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Exhibit A
On Thursday, January 18, 2018 at 3:39:09 PM UTC-5, drive-by wrote:
Sphincter
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Like I said, agreed, not his best but reposted for archival purposes.
And so it goes.
True that...
Agreed with A, not his best but worth a read.
Will Dockery wrote:
Agreed with A, not his best but worth a read.
Allen Ginsberg could tend to get a tad explicit with his erotic poems....
General-Zod wrote:
Will Dockery wrote:
Agreed with A, not his best but worth a read.
Allen Ginsberg could tend to get a tad explicit with his erotic poems....
Yes, a form of Confessional poetry.
Will Dockery wrote:
General-Zod wrote:
Will Dockery wrote:
Agreed with A, not his best but worth a read.
Allen Ginsberg could tend to get a tad explicit with his erotic poems....
Yes, a form of Confessional poetry.
Allen Ginsberg was excellent with that poetry form...
Will Dockery wrote:
Agreed with A, not his best but worth a read.
Allen Ginsberg could tend to get a tad explicit with his erotic poems....
General-Zod wrote:
Will Dockery wrote:
Agreed with A, not his best but worth a read.
Allen Ginsberg could tend to get a tad explicit with his erotic poems....
Yes, a form of Confessional poetry.
Will Dockery wrote:
General-Zod wrote:
Will Dockery wrote:
Agreed with A, not his best but worth a read.
Allen Ginsberg could tend to get a tad explicit with his erotic poems....
Yes, a form of Confessional poetry.
Indeed...
https://poets.org/text/brief-guide-confessional-poetry
**************Confessional poetry is the poetry of the personal or “I.” This style of writing emerged in the late 1950s and early 1960s and is associated with poets such as Robert Lowell, Sylvia Plath, Anne Sexton, and W. D. Snodgrass. Lowell’sbook, Life Studies, was a highly personal account of his life and familial ties and had a significant impact on American poetry. Plath and Sexton were both students of Lowell and noted that his work influenced their own writing.
The confessional poetry of the mid-twentieth century dealt with subject matter that previously had not been openly discussed in American poetry. Private experiences with and feelings about death, trauma, depression, and relationships were addressed inthis type of poetry, often in an autobiographical manner. Sexton, in particular, was interested in the psychological aspect of poetry, having started writing at the suggestion of her therapist.
The confessional poets were not merely recording their emotions on paper; craft and construction were extremely important to their work. While their treatment of the poetic self may have been groundbreaking and shocking to some readers, these poetsmaintained a high level of craftsmanship through their careful attention to and use of prosody.**********************
Will Dockery wrote:
General-Zod wrote:
Will Dockery wrote:
Agreed with A, not his best but worth a read.
Allen Ginsberg could tend to get a tad explicit with his erotic poems....
Yes, a form of Confessional poetry.
Indeed...
https://poets.org/text/brief-guide-confessional-poetry
**************Confessional poetry is the poetry of the personal or “I.” This style of writing emerged in the late 1950s and early 1960s and is associated with poets such as Robert Lowell, Sylvia Plath, Anne Sexton, and W. D. Snodgrass. Lowell’sbook, Life Studies, was a highly personal account of his life and familial ties and had a significant impact on American poetry. Plath and Sexton were both students of Lowell and noted that his work influenced their own writing.
The confessional poetry of the mid-twentieth century dealt with subject matter that previously had not been openly discussed in American poetry. Private experiences with and feelings about death, trauma, depression, and relationships were addressed inthis type of poetry, often in an autobiographical manner. Sexton, in particular, was interested in the psychological aspect of poetry, having started writing at the suggestion of her therapist.
The confessional poets were not merely recording their emotions on paper; craft and construction were extremely important to their work. While their treatment of the poetic self may have been groundbreaking and shocking to some readers, these poetsmaintained a high level of craftsmanship through their careful attention to and use of prosody.**********************
General-Zod wrote:
Will Dockery wrote:
Agreed with A, not his best but worth a read.
Allen Ginsberg could tend to get a tad explicit with his erotic poems....
Yes, a form of Confessional poetry.
Indeed...
https://poets.org/text/brief-guide-confessional-poetry
book, Life Studies, was a highly personal account of his life and familial ties and had a significant impact on American poetry. Plath and Sexton were both students of Lowell and noted that his work influenced their own writing.**************Confessional poetry is the poetry of the personal or “I.” This style of writing emerged in the late 1950s and early 1960s and is associated with poets such as Robert Lowell, Sylvia Plath, Anne Sexton, and W. D. Snodgrass. Lowell’s
this type of poetry, often in an autobiographical manner. Sexton, in particular, was interested in the psychological aspect of poetry, having started writing at the suggestion of her therapist.The confessional poetry of the mid-twentieth century dealt with subject matter that previously had not been openly discussed in American poetry. Private experiences with and feelings about death, trauma, depression, and relationships were addressed in
maintained a high level of craftsmanship through their careful attention to and use of prosody.**********************The confessional poets were not merely recording their emotions on paper; craft and construction were extremely important to their work. While their treatment of the poetic self may have been groundbreaking and shocking to some readers, these poets
Good find, Zod.
Will Dockery wrote:
Agreed with A, not his best but worth a read.
Allen Ginsberg could tend to get a tad explicit with his erotic poems....
"George J. Dance" wrote in message
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Exhibit A
On Thursday, January 18, 2018 at 3:39:09 PM UTC-5, drive-by wrote:
Sphincter
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Like I said, agreed, not his best but reposted for archival purposes.
And so it goes.
True that...
Good evening my friend, you nailed it.
HTH and HAND.
Will Dockery wrote:
"George J. Dance" wrote in message
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Exhibit A
On Thursday, January 18, 2018 at 3:39:09 PM UTC-5, drive-by wrote:
Sphincter
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Like I said, agreed, not his best but reposted for archival purposes.
And so it goes.
True that...
Good evening my friend, you nailed it.
HTH and HAND.
Hi there....
"George J. Dance" wrote in message
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Exhibit A
On Thursday, January 18, 2018 at 3:39:09 PM UTC-5, drive-by wrote:
Sphincter
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Good evening my friend, you nailed it.
HTH and HAND.
Will Dockery wrote:
"George J. Dance" wrote in message
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On Thursday, January 18, 2018 at 3:39:09 PM UTC-5, drive-by wrote:
Sphincter
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Good day to you....!
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