On 2022-10-19 3:35 p.m., Zod Zodly wrote:
On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 9:48:09 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
postpoetry
although there's nothing left to say
we're gonna say it anyway
& if a reader doesn't read
we'll call him something we don't need
& if a critic calls it shit
we won't believe a word of it
& if a poet points that out
we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
about her frogs and trees and birds
so we won't have to read her words
or better yet let's write of war
and fill a page or two with gore
some reeking flesh a severed head
& maggots feasting on the dead
& if perchance that doesn't shock
let's add a line of fuck ass cock
motherfucker piss & shit
(who knows that just might pass for wit)
what else to do what else to say
when everything is mere cliche?
how else to make a reader feel
or think that what we say is real?
of course the whole idea is dumb
when we're as comfortably numb
but if we sweat through every motion
we may feel a real emotion –
at least it kills an hour or two
and we have nothing else to do.
~~
George J. Dance, 2007
from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015
Quite an interesting poem, G.D.
Thanks, Zod. It's good to see some people still reading poetry here.
George J. Dance wrote:
On 2022-10-19 3:35 p.m., Zod Zodly wrote:
On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 9:48:09 AM UTC-4,
george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
postpoetry
although there's nothing left to say
we're gonna say it anyway
& if a reader doesn't read
we'll call him something we don't need
& if a critic calls it shit
we won't believe a word of it
& if a poet points that out
we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
about her frogs and trees and birds
so we won't have to read her words
or better yet let's write of war
and fill a page or two with gore
some reeking flesh a severed head
& maggots feasting on the dead
& if perchance that doesn't shock
let's add a line of fuck ass cock
motherfucker piss & shit
(who knows that just might pass for wit)
what else to do what else to say
when everything is mere cliche?
how else to make a reader feel
or think that what we say is real?
of course the whole idea is dumb
when we're as comfortably numb
but if we sweat through every motion
we may feel a real emotion –
at least it kills an hour or two
and we have nothing else to do.
~~
George J. Dance, 2007
from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015
Quite an interesting poem, G.D.
Thanks, Zod. It's good to see some people still reading poetry here.
I'm reading the poetry but I also see that Senetto is obsessively
creating Will Dockery troll threads, most of which I don't respond to.
In one of these you're correcting his lies and setting the record
straight, I appreciate that.
You might remind Senetto that I don't usually post personal and private information about my friends and family here.
Thanks again, and have a good day.
🙂
On 2022-10-20 9:47 a.m., jdcha...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 8:43:53 AM UTC-4, blackpo...@aol.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 8:34:08 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
On 2022-10-20 8:28 a.m., Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 8:02:28 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
On 2022-10-19 8:50 p.m., Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
On Saturday, December 28, 2002 at 4:12:42 PM UTC-5, opb...@yahoo.com >>>>> wrote:> and you know… that over the years, I HAVE
Nothing betterHe sounds like someone happy with his life. No wonder you envy andWhy are you post-editing 20-year old conversations from rec.arts.poems, >>>>> Chimp?
Will Dockery...16 years ago
"I consider myself, above all else, an entertainer, and many people do dig a
kick-ass folk-rock performance.
Musicians see what I'm all about and want a piece of that action, and I'm a
free agent to bring my "special guest star" to anyone who calls my name, to
climb onstage and reach into my bag of tricks.
It's a great, bumpy and wild ride being Will Dockery, and I wouldn't trade
it for all the world's gold."
resent him so.
There is nothing else to know about Will Dockery.
in a group that is quite often toxic and malicious and nasty and mean spirited and hateful...actually, there's plenty of other explanations that are possible... perhaps he was grieving and was too sad and distressed to share the info here... or perhaps he felt that the info was too personal and wouldn't be recieved with sympathy and support
Thank you, Jordy; those are all good hypotheses. But I'm afraid you left
out the most obvious one:
He didn't want ace reporter "Edward Rochester" post-editing his comments
and putting them in a trollthread.
On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 1:13:42 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
Ash Wurthing wrote:
On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 1:54:23 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
Michael Pendragon wrote:
On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 1:13:31 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
"We know that The Beatles and myself rest on the "Decent" level.Good to see ace reporter "Edward Rochester Esq." is back, with another
Nelly Black is at least one level lower than The Beatles and me"
fake story for NGBS.
In fact, it was MMP who placed Will and the Beatles on the same level,
with Nelly Black lower down. He confirmed that.
<quote>
On 2022-10-20 11:59 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 11:25:13 AM UTC-4,george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
don't find their music offensive (to my eardrums, not my moralSince you're here, Michael: do you remember the thread where you
favorably compared Will's music to the Beatles"?
No. I remember placing it on a level with that of the Beatles.
I.e., While I don't particularly care for either of their records, I
sensibilities).
</quote>
MMP's entitled to his opinion. Some people don't like the Beatles; hell,
some don't even like the Bells! There's no accounting for taste.
What isn't fine is your pretending Will had made that comment, when he
was just repeating MMP's statement. You're lying, just for fun. I think
you should stop, for your own good.
Think about it: When you tell lies about Will that everyone knows are
lies, how do you expect any of them to believe you when they don't know?
Why should they take the word of a habitual liar?
Of course never mind the clueless ignorance Pen shows when he declares the BEATLES to be merely "decent"...
And no offense to Doc, I'm sure he is aware of the humor in such an absurd judgement from Pen..
No offense taken, Zod, Pendragon put me on the level of The Beatles, I'd never considered myself a peer of four of the most talented artists of all time.
It is for Pat Boone's sappy sounds.Pat Boone was knocked off the charts permanently by the ty The Beatles arrived.Pat Boone and Tiny Tim as on a far lower level than the BEATLES, as most people know...Hilariously, Pen puts Tiny TIM and PAT Boone at the top level, way above the BEATLES....!!
Pendragon also thinks he's a better poet than T.S. Eliot, so he obviously sees things differently than "most people".
Pat Boone was the second highest charting singer of the early r'n'r era (the late 50s). He was also the first white solo artist to chard with a r'n'r song (6 months before Elvis)
That's Pat Boone's genre.The Beatles - Hey Jude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_MjCqQoLLA
A really putrid song.
"Putrid" isn't a genre
First off issWilly whyAsh, why do you lie and misrepresent so much?
On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 4:29:25 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 1:13:42 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
Ash Wurthing wrote:First off is
On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 1:54:23 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote: >> > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 1:13:31 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
"We know that The Beatles and myself rest on the "Decent" level.Good to see ace reporter "Edward Rochester Esq." is back, with another
Nelly Black is at least one level lower than The Beatles and me"
fake story for NGBS.
In fact, it was MMP who placed Will and the Beatles on the same level,
with Nelly Black lower down. He confirmed that.
<quote>
On 2022-10-20 11:59 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 11:25:13 AM UTC-4,george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
don't find their music offensive (to my eardrums, not my moralSince you're here, Michael: do you remember the thread where you
favorably compared Will's music to the Beatles"?
No. I remember placing it on a level with that of the Beatles.
I.e., While I don't particularly care for either of their records, I
sensibilities).
</quote>
MMP's entitled to his opinion. Some people don't like the Beatles; hell,
some don't even like the Bells! There's no accounting for taste.
What isn't fine is your pretending Will had made that comment, when he
was just repeating MMP's statement. You're lying, just for fun. I think
you should stop, for your own good.
Think about it: When you tell lies about Will that everyone knows are
lies, how do you expect any of them to believe you when they don't know?
Why should they take the word of a habitual liar?
Of course never mind the clueless ignorance Pen shows when he declares the BEATLES to be merely "decent"...
And no offense to Doc, I'm sure he is aware of the humor in such an absurd judgement from Pen..
No offense taken, Zod, Pendragon put me on the level of The Beatles, I'd never considered myself a peer of four of the most talented artists of all time.
It is for Pat Boone's sappy sounds.Pat Boone was knocked off the charts permanently by the ty The Beatles arrived.Pat Boone and Tiny Tim as on a far lower level than the BEATLES, as most people know...Hilariously, Pen puts Tiny TIM and PAT Boone at the top level, way above the BEATLES....!!
Pendragon also thinks he's a better poet than T.S. Eliot, so he obviously sees things differently than "most people".
Pat Boone was the second highest charting singer of the early r'n'r era (the late 50s). He was also the first white solo artist to chard with a r'n'r song (6 months before Elvis)
That's Pat Boone's genre.The Beatles - Hey Jude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_MjCqQoLLA
A really putrid song.
"Putrid" isn't a genre
sWilly whyAsh, why do you lie and misrepresent so much?
First off is that you are a troll, Ash... we have known that for about a year, now..!
Ha ha.
Zod wrote:
Ash wrote:
First off isOn Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 1:54:23 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote: >>> > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 1:13:31 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
"We know that The Beatles and myself rest on the "Decent" level.Good to see ace reporter "Edward Rochester Esq." is back, with another
Nelly Black is at least one level lower than The Beatles and me"
fake story for NGBS.
In fact, it was MMP who placed Will and the Beatles on the same level,
with Nelly Black lower down. He confirmed that.
<quote>
On 2022-10-20 11:59 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 11:25:13 AM UTC-4,george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
don't find their music offensive (to my eardrums, not my moralSince you're here, Michael: do you remember the thread where you
favorably compared Will's music to the Beatles"?
No. I remember placing it on a level with that of the Beatles.
I.e., While I don't particularly care for either of their records, I
sensibilities).
</quote>
MMP's entitled to his opinion. Some people don't like the Beatles; hell,
some don't even like the Bells! There's no accounting for taste.
What isn't fine is your pretending Will had made that comment, when he
was just repeating MMP's statement. You're lying, just for fun. I think
you should stop, for your own good.
Think about it: When you tell lies about Will that everyone knows are
lies, how do you expect any of them to believe you when they don't know?
Why should they take the word of a habitual liar?
Of course never mind the clueless ignorance Pen shows when he declares the BEATLES to be merely "decent"...
And no offense to Doc, I'm sure he is aware of the humor in such an absurd judgement from Pen..
No offense taken, Zod, Pendragon put me on the level of The Beatles, I'd never considered myself a peer of four of the most talented artists of all time.
It is for Pat Boone's sappy sounds.Pat Boone was knocked off the charts permanently by the ty The Beatles arrived.Pat Boone and Tiny Tim as on a far lower level than the BEATLES, as most people know...Hilariously, Pen puts Tiny TIM and PAT Boone at the top level, way above the BEATLES....!!
Pendragon also thinks he's a better poet than T.S. Eliot, so he obviously sees things differently than "most people".
Pat Boone was the second highest charting singer of the early r'n'r era (the late 50s). He was also the first white solo artist to chard with a r'n'r song (6 months before Elvis)
That's Pat Boone's genre.The Beatles - Hey Jude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_MjCqQoLLA
A really putrid song.
"Putrid" isn't a genre
sWilly whyAsh, why do you lie and misrepresent so much?
First off is that you are a troll, Ash... we have known that for about a year, now..!
Ha ha.
You nailed it, Zod.
On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 12:37:56 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 12:32:36 PM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 12:28:25 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 9:09:53 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
Will Dockery wrote:
On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 2:15:23 PM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 2:11:38 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 12:59:44 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 5:51:34 AM UTC, george....@yahoo.ca wrote:
Should she have?I never said he was. Where did you get the idea the speaker might be aIt isn't about what George Dance needs, "Professor"; it's about what thepostpoetry
although there's nothing left to say
we're gonna say it anyway
& if a reader doesn't read
we'll call him something we don't need
& if a critic calls it shit
we won't believe a word of it
& if a poet points that out
we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
about her frogs and trees and birds
so we won't have to read her words
or better yet let's write of war
and fill a page or two with gore
some reeking flesh a severed head
& maggots feasting on the dead
& if perchance that doesn't shock
let's add a line of fuck ass cock
motherfucker piss & shit
(who knows that just might pass for wit)
what else to do what else to say
when everything is mere cliche?
how else to make a reader feel
or think that what we say is real?
of course the whole idea is dumb
when we're as comfortably numb
but if we sweat through every motion
we may feel a real emotion –
at least it kills an hour or two
and we have nothing else to do.
~~
George J. Dance, 2007
from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015
George Dance don't need no stinkin' commas.
speaker of the poem needs.
The speaker in your poem is not "a muse."
muse?
If poetry is meant to be read aloud, how does your lack of punctuation help your poem?Use the line and stanza breaks. That's what they're there for.
You did not address the visual demand for six ampersands..It's just part of the style. "and" is replaced by &.
Does the speaker say "ampersand" in each line?No, "Professor,", an ampersand is pronounced "and." I can understand you
not knowing that, but it's something you could have Googled.
Not enough, considering how many tend to forget it so often.Let me quote (from memory) from Karla, another wannabe online poetryThat saying has been used too much here.
teacher we once had here:
"Do not confuse the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem.."
The poem still represents your attempt at creativity.Oh, good; you haven't started calling it "plagiarized" yet..
That would be a typical NancyGene troll stunt, yes.
I didn't ask if she would have (in your paranoid opinion), but *should* she have.
George Dance is known (with or without justification) for
George Dance did, otoh, plagiarize "Batty's Hat" from PJR. And you know that, as well.What part of "another form" are you failing to comprehend?That's not plagiarism, though.That only accounts for one of the accusations.That's just a smear from PJR, Pen, you know that....Pendragon damned well knows it.
Both Jim and I were victims of another form of literary theft when George Dance refused to remove our poetry from his website and posted out of context quotes by us in his wiki.
No, it was a parody, satire of PJR.
Was George's "Penny's Hat" blog a satire as well, Donkey?I didn't say PJR would admit it, little monkey.Obviously not, since PJR accused George Dance of having plagiarized it from him.Obvious, probably even to PJR himself.Fair use.Exactly, you nailed that onme, Doc...!
Long Island poet Jim Senetto never ceases to amaze. On July 15, 2021 - mere hours after learning what a cento was - he had produced his first cento, entitled "Shambles," and had posted a copy to alt.arts.poetry.comments (usenet edition). Unfortunately,that first draft seems to have been withdrawn for further work, but Internet Archive has managed to save a copy for posterity:
https://web.archive.org/web/20210721020302/https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/ZeLu697_LfA/m/94BScwCKAAAJ?hl=enon his own "Shadowville Mythos" blog on July 5, 2021:
Also unfortunately, in that draft Cento Senetto did not name his sources, leaving it to those of us interested in centos to track them down. I have managed to find a candidate: a poem by Will Dockery, also entitled "Shambles," which Dockery published
https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/2021/07/shambles.htmlit's not transformative enough. Evidently Cento Senetto felt the same, which could explain the draft's sudden disappearance.
The similarities between the poems extend to more than the titles. I hope the following line-by-line comparison of Senetto's cento (identified as "ER") and Dockery's poem ("WD") shows the extent of the 'borrowing':
ER:
1 Yes, that Richard Pryor looking guy
2 was somewhat interesting, except that he was so drunk
3 he drooled words
WD:
1 Yes, the "Richard Pryor" looking guy was somewhat interesting,
2 except that he was so drunk he was drooling.
ER:
4 thinking I looked like Mark Twain or Gene Wilder,
WD:
3 He either thought I looked like Mark Twain or Gene Wilder,
ER:
5 as I watched it all go by on Broadway around midnight.
WD:
4 sitting on the bench on Broadway at Midnight, typing.
ER:
6 He mentioned Kentucky, was bourbon on the mind?
WD:
5 He seemed to think we were from the same home area,
6 somewhere around Kentucky,
ER:
7 North oats, was sour mash on the mind? Carolina,
8 where his family worked on crab boats,
WD:
7 Maybe Carolina,
8 where his family worked on crab boats,
9 or maybe North Oates Avenue.
ER:
9 then Tom Hanks was on my mind, though his dream
10 was shrimp.
[not in WD]
ER:
11 Politics reared its ugly head, drunk or sober it’s all the talk,
11 the out of the side of his mouth political jabs and so on,
ER:
12 though quiet I was, being entertained, while playing the straight white guy,
WD:
12 were pretty entertaining,
13 as I just sat there and typed,
14 playing the white straight man type,
15 like in Stir Crazy and Silver Streak,
ER:
13 thinking, possibly, my Einstein hairdo might just have been the candle
14 to this drunken moth.
WD:
16 wild Einstein afro hair flapping in the breeze.
ER:
15 His stumble into me, brought it to a close,
16 my coffee wetting the same sidewalk he wandered off on…
WD:
17 That went okay for a few minutes
18 until Pryor knocked over my coffee,
19 seemed to be embarrassed about that,
20 and wandered away,
21 on up the sidewalk.
ER:
17 and from the other end a hooker chick approached,
18 she too, in shambles offering a down and dirty for five bucks
WD:
22 Then when a crack hooker chick
23 in real shambles came along,
24 offered to blow me right there for five bucks,
ER:
19 but saved, I was, a chilly breeze whispered, go home now.
WD:
25 I decided that along with the chilly breeze on my back,
26 perhaps it was time to pack it up for the night.
27 I wanted dark, I got dark.
Credits:
ER: a cento by Edward Rochester Esq.
WD:
-Will Dockery (11-15-2016)
So, except for Jim's LL 9-10, every line appears to be taken from Dockery's "Shambles".
Jim's poem contains some interesting rewrites of lines, but nothing that substantially changes the poem; it's still a narration relating the same story about the same incident and events. In my judgement, then, this first draft fails as a cento because
On 2022-11-02 9:03 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 12:04:09 AM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
Michael Pendragon wrote:
On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 3:25:28 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 2:11:38 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:Your memory is not well known to be very trustworthy, Pen.
On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 12:59:44 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 5:51:34 AM UTC, george....@yahoo.ca wrote:
I don't remember, we should ask George Dance, little monkey.Was George's "Penny's Hat" blog a satire as well, Donkey?I didn't say PJR would admit it, little monkey.Obviously not, since PJR accused George Dance of having plagiarized it from him.Obvious, probably even to PJR himself.Exactly, you nailed that onme, Doc...!I didn't ask if she would have (in your paranoid opinion), but *should* she have.Should she have?muse?speaker of the poem needs.George Dance don't need no stinkin' commas. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't about what George Dance needs, "Professor"; it's about what thepostpoetry
although there's nothing left to say >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we're gonna say it anyway
& if a reader doesn't read >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we'll call him something we don't need >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> & if a critic calls it shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we won't believe a word of it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> & if a poet points that out >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we'll just ignore it & we'll shout >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about her frogs and trees and birds >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so we won't have to read her words >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
or better yet let's write of war >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and fill a page or two with gore >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some reeking flesh a severed head >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> & maggots feasting on the dead >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> & if perchance that doesn't shock >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> let's add a line of fuck ass cock >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> motherfucker piss & shit
(who knows that just might pass for wit) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
what else to do what else to say >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when everything is mere cliche? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how else to make a reader feel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or think that what we say is real? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of course the whole idea is dumb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when we're as comfortably numb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but if we sweat through every motion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we may feel a real emotion – >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at least it kills an hour or two >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and we have nothing else to do. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
~~
George J. Dance, 2007
from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The speaker in your poem is not "a muse." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never said he was. Where did you get the idea the speaker might be a
If poetry is meant to be read aloud, how does your lack of punctuation help your poem?Use the line and stanza breaks. That's what they're there for.
You did not address the visual demand for six ampersands..It's just part of the style. "and" is replaced by &. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does the speaker say "ampersand" in each line? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, "Professor,", an ampersand is pronounced "and." I can understand you
not knowing that, but it's something you could have Googled.
Let me quote (from memory) from Karla, another wannabe online poetryThat saying has been used too much here. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not enough, considering how many tend to forget it so often.
teacher we once had here:
"Do not confuse the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem.."
The poem still represents your attempt at creativity. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, good; you haven't started calling it "plagiarized" yet..
That would be a typical NancyGene troll stunt, yes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
George Dance is known (with or without justification) for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
What part of "another form" are you failing to comprehend? >>>>>>>>>>>> George Dance did, otoh, plagiarize "Batty's Hat" from PJR. And you know that, as well.That's not plagiarism, though.That only accounts for one of the accusations.That's just a smear from PJR, Pen, you know that..... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pendragon damned well knows it.
Both Jim and I were victims of another form of literary theft when George Dance refused to remove our poetry from his website and posted out of context quotes by us in his wiki.
No, it was a parody, satire of PJR.
Fair use.
If you like. I do remember reading PJR's accusation, and finding it disturbingly convincing.
I am known for having an exceptional memory, Stink.
I could easily find and repost PJR's accusation, but I doubt that George Dance would be happy about it.
I also doubt that George Dance appreciates how you and your Donkey insist on pressing the issue. As previously noted, I don't believe that George Dance intentionally set out to plagiarize PJR.
However, that is precisely what he did
No, that was a false accusation of PJ Ross's (and, now, yours). The
alleged plagiaized poem that PJ Ross claimed I'd posted never existed.
When that was not just pointed out but proven, he simply made up a story
that I'd "deleted" it (not just from Google groups, but from all of
usenet).
, and raking it over the coals, yet another time, does nothing to improve his reputation.
Actually, I think allowing bogus allegations like the above one go
unanswered would be far worse for my reputation.
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