On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:08:06 PM UTC-4, George J. Dance wrote:
On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 10:36:06 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 1:08:10 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 9:31:04 AM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 5:22:12 AM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
The smearing of Roger Waters
Baseless claims on social media that former Pink Floyd singer Roger Waters used anti-semitic imagery at recent concerts in Berlin are being elevated by media figures and politicians who detest his involvement in the BDS movement and his calls
for peace negotiations in Ukraine.
https://gdspoliticalanimal.blogspot.com/2023/08/the-smearing-of-roger-waters.html
More importantly, your Asstroll has been spreading this very smear on multiple threads on aapc for the last two months -- though you probably weren't paying attention again -- so of course it's on-topic to address it.
Yes, it will be good to get the record straight in this.
I'm too busy to write my own article on it (that one's reprinted from a leftist publication, the Jacobin) but this is probably the place to set up notes.
The thing is, both those "anti-semitic" things Waters was charged with were no different from what he and PF had been doing since 1980. Waters always wore his fascist dictator's coat with the crossed hammers for "in the Flesh" and everyone understood
it was an anti-fascist statement; no one confused it with an "SS uniform" until now. And since the "Animals" LP the pig balloon has had a Star of David, along with a Christian cross, a Moslem crescent and star, a dollar sign, and (IIRC) the Shell Oil
logo and the Golden Arches. Waters is far left, like Stephen Jay Morris eg. He's making a statement about the superstructure of capitalism, of which to them religion is a fundamental part.
The Israeli government has been calling Waters anti-semitic since he began supporting the BDS movement against Israel in 2016. I don't support that, but then I'm not far left. That doesn't explain U.S. and EU bureaucrats and politicians, and their
supporting media, joining the pile-on now; they had no trouble leaving Waters alone for seven more years.
To explain why Waters is being defamed in 2023, one has to look at what's happened in 2023. Which I'll put in my reply to Zod, to keep both of your threads going.
On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 10:51:24 PM UTC-4, George Dance wrote:
On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 6:20:29 PM UTC-4, General-Zod wrote:
George Dance wrote:
The smearing of Roger Waters
Baseless claims on social media that former Pink Floyd singer Roger Waters used anti-semitic imagery at recent concerts in Berlin are being elevated by media figures and politicians who detest his involvement in the BDS movement and his calls for
peace negotiations in Ukraine.
https://gdspoliticalanimal.blogspot.com/2023/08/the-smearing-of-roger-waters.html
Good read G.D.
Thanks, Zod. I'm glad you and Will are reading it. There's a bit more.
As I told Will, the reason the U.S. and European Union politicians and bureaucrats have joined in in this smear of Waters in 2023 (when they were not in 2022) had to have been something that happened, something Waters did, in 2023. After the Asstroll
began spreading the smear here, I went looking for that smoking gun, and found it quickly enough. Here's Rolling Stone's story from Feb. 8, 2023:
'AT RUSSIA’S REQUEST, Pink Floyd founding member Roger Waters spoke at the United Nations Security Council meeting on Wednesday. The musician’s address was largely an anti-war broadside, as he condemned the for-profit military industrial complex
and stressed the devastating toll of war, both on people and the environment.
'As the subject of the meeting was Russia’s ongoing war in Ukraine, Waters did eventually get around to that as well. Waters condemned Russia’s invasion of Ukraine as “illegal,” but also said it was “not unprovoked.” He added, “So I also
condemn the provocateurs in the strongest possible terms. There, that’s out of the way.”'
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/roger-waters-united-nations-appearance-speech-1234675837/
That's why Waters is being smeared; because he opposes the Ukraine War. And today the left, from Zombie Joe on down, do not tolerate opposition to the Ukraine War. Waters is just another leftist, like J.K. Rowling et al, being cancelled by the left for
wrong-think; and this anti-semitic disinformation is just their way of cancelling him.
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