• My 1993--1995 poem and song fragments

    From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 12 01:43:54 2023
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    Here's a few of my poetry and song snippets from 1993 -- 1995:

    https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html

    I won’t copy and paste them all here since then some
    needed spacing in some of them won’t be reproduced,
    at least in Hogwasher newsreader which I use when
    I am in St. John’s.

    Back then I had good wordplay ability but suffered from
    an inability to complete projects. I hope that my creativity
    will return soon and that it will include the ability to
    complete projects and to do longer poems and songs.

    Constructive(!) criticism is welcome.

    Some of them do show my interest in Sarah McLachlan,
    but I never bothered her. However her record label
    person who was on the mailing list must have relayed
    the best of my writing to her since she silently approached
    me twice in the spring of 1995, which is reflected in some
    of the lyrics on her 1997 Surfacing album.

    --
    https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) "And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;
    And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand” (Ferron)

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  • From W.Dockery@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Tue Sep 12 16:08:30 2023
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    On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 12:13:57 AM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:

    Here's a few of my poetry and song snippets from 1993 -- 1995:

    https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html

    I won’t copy and paste them all here since then some
    needed spacing in some of them won’t be reproduced,
    at least in Hogwasher newsreader which I use when
    I am in St. John’s.

    Back then I had good wordplay ability but suffered from
    an inability to complete projects. I hope that my creativity
    will return soon and that it will include the ability to
    complete projects and to do longer poems and songs.

    Constructive(!) criticism is welcome.

    Some of them do show my interest in Sarah McLachlan,
    but I never bothered her. However her record label
    person who was on the mailing list must have relayed
    the best of my writing to her since she silently approached
    me twice in the spring of 1995, which is reflected in some
    of the lyrics on her 1997 Surfacing album.

    --
    https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) "And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;
    And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand” (Ferron)

    Thanks for posting, David, I'll have a look.

    🙂

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  • From General-Zod@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Tue Sep 12 20:28:57 2023
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    David Dalton wrote:

    Here's a few of my poetry and song snippets from 1993 -- 1995:

    https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html

    I won’t copy and paste them all here since then some
    needed spacing in some of them won’t be reproduced,
    at least in Hogwasher newsreader which I use when
    I am in St. John’s.

    Back then I had good wordplay ability but suffered from
    an inability to complete projects. I hope that my creativity
    will return soon and that it will include the ability to
    complete projects and to do longer poems and songs.

    Constructive(!) criticism is welcome.

    Some of them do show my interest in Sarah McLachlan,
    but I never bothered her. However her record label
    person who was on the mailing list must have relayed
    the best of my writing to her since she silently approached
    me twice in the spring of 1995, which is reflected in some
    of the lyrics on her 1997 Surfacing album.

    Hi there David, I am reading these excellent verse pieces now, outstanding poetics...

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  • From General-Zod@21:1/5 to NancyGene on Wed Sep 13 23:28:20 2023
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    On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 11:32:20 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 4:13:57 AM UTC, David Dalton wrote:

    Here's a few of my poetry and song snippets from 1993 -- 1995:

    https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html

    I won’t copy and paste them all here since then some
    needed spacing in some of them won’t be reproduced,
    at least in Hogwasher newsreader which I use when
    I am in St. John’s.
    Mr. Dalton, you have no poetry writing talent. At. All.

    Nancy G. you are not a very good judge of poetry, but you sure are a great know-it-all...

    And a stalker troll, that's your main, or only, talent... ha ha.


    Back then I had good wordplay ability but suffered from
    an inability to complete projects. I hope that my creativity
    will return soon and that it will include the ability to
    complete projects and to do longer poems and songs.
    First, you should find out how to write poems and not the embarrassingly juvenile, no meter examples that you have offered.

    Constructive(!) criticism is welcome.

    Some of them do show my interest in Sarah McLachlan,
    but I never bothered her. However her record label
    person who was on the mailing list must have relayed
    the best of my writing to her since she silently approached
    me twice in the spring of 1995, which is reflected in some
    of the lyrics on her 1997 Surfacing album.
    Sure, she "silently approached" you. Add delusional to your diagnosis of bi-polar. She is singing her songs TO YOU, with HIDDEN MEANINGS and MESSAGES. Look up Erotomania.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    More evidence that Nancy Gene is a malicious troll in personal attack mode...! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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  • From W.Dockery@21:1/5 to Michael Pendragon on Thu Sep 14 01:28:52 2023
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    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 9:10:45 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 7:30:16 PM UTC-4, General-Zod wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 11:32:20 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 4:13:57 AM UTC, David Dalton wrote:

    Here's a few of my poetry and song snippets from 1993 -- 1995:

    https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html

    I won’t copy and paste them all here since then some
    needed spacing in some of them won’t be reproduced,
    at least in Hogwasher newsreader which I use when
    I am in St. John’s.
    Mr. Dalton, you have no poetry writing talent. At. All.
    Nancy G. you are not a very good judge of poetry, but you sure are a great know-it-all...
    NancyGene has shown herself to be an excellent judge of poetry on countless occasions. And while she may not be omniscient, I can see how someone like you would mistake her for such.
    And a stalker troll, that's your main, or only, talent... ha ha.
    She's a highly talented poet, Stinky (whereas you're an untalented pretender).
    Back then I had good wordplay ability but suffered from
    an inability to complete projects. I hope that my creativity
    will return soon and that it will include the ability to
    complete projects and to do longer poems and songs.
    First, you should find out how to write poems and not the embarrassingly juvenile, no meter examples that you have offered.

    Constructive(!) criticism is welcome.

    Some of them do show my interest in Sarah McLachlan,
    but I never bothered her. However her record label
    person who was on the mailing list must have relayed
    the best of my writing to her since she silently approached
    me twice in the spring of 1995, which is reflected in some
    of the lyrics on her 1997 Surfacing album.
    Sure, she "silently approached" you. Add delusional to your diagnosis of bi-polar. She is singing her songs TO YOU, with HIDDEN MEANINGS and MESSAGES. Look up Erotomania.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    More evidence that Nancy Gene is a malicious troll in personal attack mode...! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Apparently Sarah frequently bases her lyrics on mail from her fans:

    "In 1994, McLachlan was sued by Uwe Vandrei, an obsessed fan from Ottawa, who alleged that his letters to her had been the basis of the single "Possession". The lawsuit was also challenging for the Canadian legal system since Vandrei was an admitted
    stalker whose acknowledged goal in filing the lawsuit was to be near McLachlan. Consequently, precautions were taken to ensure McLachlan's safety if she had to be in the same location as Vandrei. Before the trial began, however, Vandrei was found dead in
    an apparent suicide."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_McLachlan

    I haven't done much research on Sarah McLachlan.

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  • From General-Zod@21:1/5 to Will Dockery on Fri Sep 15 18:05:26 2023
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    Will Dockery wrote:

    On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 5:58:43 PM UTC-4, Faraway Star wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 9:30:13 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote: >> > > > > On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 4:13:57 AM UTC, David Dalton wrote:

    Here's a few of my poetry and song snippets from 1993 -- 1995:

    https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html

    I won’t copy and paste them all here since then some
    needed spacing in some of them won’t be reproduced,
    at least in Hogwasher newsreader which I use when
    I am in St. John’s.

    Back then I had good wordplay ability but suffered from
    an inability to complete projects. I hope that my creativity
    will return soon and that it will include the ability to
    complete projects and to do longer poems and songs.
    First, you should find out how to write poems and not the embarrassingly juvenile, no meter examples that you have offered.

    Constructive(!) criticism is welcome.

    Some of them do show my interest in Sarah McLachlan,
    but I never bothered her. However her record label
    person who was on the mailing list must have relayed
    the best of my writing to her since she silently approached
    me twice in the spring of 1995, which is reflected in some
    of the lyrics on her 1997 Surfacing album.
    Sure, she "silently approached" you. Add delusional to your diagnosis of bi-polar. She is singing her songs TO YOU, with HIDDEN MEANINGS and MESSAGES. Look up Erotomania.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    More evidence that Nancy Gene is a malicious troll in personal attack mode...! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Apparently Sarah frequently bases her lyrics on mail from her fans:

    "In 1994, McLachlan was sued by Uwe Vandrei, an obsessed fan from Ottawa, who alleged that his letters to her had been the basis of the single "Possession". The lawsuit was also challenging for the Canadian legal system since Vandrei was an
    admitted stalker whose acknowledged goal in filing the lawsuit was to be near McLachlan. Consequently, precautions were taken to ensure McLachlan's safety if she had to be in the same location as Vandrei.. Before the trial began, however, Vandrei was
    found dead in an apparent suicide."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_McLachlan
    I haven't done much research on Sarah McLachlan.
    I liked her songs back in my Navy days, a bunk mate had her cassette tapes...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SiylvmFI_8

    Good selection. Zod.

    I learned so much about a wide variety of music in the Navy, a very diverse group of men who become sailors...

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  • From W.Dockery@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Sat Sep 16 07:17:47 2023
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    David Dalton wrote:

    On Sep 15, 2023, Michael Pendragon wrote
    (in article<8cfa3fcb-e741-4db6-813e-841b1a5f8594n@googlegroups.com>):

    On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 1:07:15 AM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
    On Sep 12, 2023, NancyGene wrote
    (in article<5048b637-2cee-4717...@googlegroups.com>):
    On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 4:13:57 AM UTC, David Dalton wrote: >> > > >
    Some of them do show my interest in Sarah McLachlan,
    but I never bothered her. However her record label
    person who was on the mailing list must have relayed
    the best of my writing to her since she silently approached
    me twice in the spring of 1995, which is reflected in some
    of the lyrics on her 1997 Surfacing album.

    Sure, she "silently approached" you. Add delusional to your diagnosis of >> > > bi-polar. She is singing her songs TO YOU, with HIDDEN MEANINGS and
    MESSAGES.
    Look up Erotomania.
    Have you listened to the album? She was the one who was
    obsessed with me, and two mutual friends of ours in Vancouver
    invited me to two gigs (not hers, other musicians) and she
    effectively did two hit-and-runs on me, in the first moist palming
    my right elbow from behind, pulling it to the left, and running off
    to the right, and it the second she drank me up with her eyes
    near the bar. Those incidents later influenced the following lyrics:

    "Don’t understand
    The touch of your hand [elbow]
    I would be the one to fall
    I miss the little things
    I miss everything about you”

    from Sweet Surrender

    and

    "We meet at the lights
    I stare for a while
    The world around us disappears

    <snip>

    Oh but everytime I’m close to you
    There’s too much I can’t say
    And you just walk away”

    from I Love You, and note the “silent approach”.

    I did not approach her even when she wanted me to; she
    approached me. And when I knew where she lived since
    her housemates were listed in the phone book, I never
    went near the place.

    I suggest you listen to the album; she is obviously obsessed
    with a “mystery man” and why couldn’t that “mystery man”
    be me, especially given our interactions in the spring of 1995,
    and that I think my playful writing on the FTE list might have
    fulfilled some of her prophetic dreams.
    --
    https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
    "For she is the perfect creature, natural in every feature
    And I am the geek with the alchemists' stone" (Jimmy MacCarthy)

    I'm sorry, David, but I think the supposed messages/references to you in the >> lyrics are an unbelievably huge stretch... and that's assuming that the elbow
    touching and bar gazing incidents actually occurred.

    It is not unbelievable. From 1991 to 1994 I booked, hosted, and
    did sound for live music on Friday nights at the UBC grad centre,
    and got to know many musicians, including Danielle French,
    who recorded a CD with members of Sarah McLachlan’s band.
    I also got to know Ariane Behrend, a volunteer with the band
    The Paperboys, who I taught a bit about doing sound, and who
    told me she regularly went to brunch at Sophie’s Cosmic
    Cafe with Sarah McLachlan and her drummer and housemate
    (and future husband) Ashwin Sood. Moreover, from early
    summer 1994 on I engaged in a lot of playful but non-obsessive
    writing on the FTE mailing list, devoted to Sarah McLachlan and
    her music, and her record label representative Cathy Barrett
    was on the list and must have relayed THE BEST OF my
    writing to Sarah for her amusement, and it somehow struck
    a chord.

    Then is early spring 1995 Ariane put me on the guest list
    for Shane MacGowan and The Popes with The Paperboys
    opening, at The Commodore Ballroom, and that is
    where the elbow pulling incident occurred. And it
    was no ordinary touch, but similar to that described in
    these lyrics by The Weather Station:

    "There was a time you put your hand on the small of my back I was surprised that you touched me like that
    But there in your hand was a current of life
    I could hardly stand.”

    It was an electric, warming, compatible touch, but I didn’t
    realize it was her until after the later stare incident occurred,
    since she ran off so fast.

    Then in May 1995 Danielle invited me to her showcase set
    for Music West at The Treehouse Lounge in the basement
    of The St. Regis hotel. That is where the stare incident
    occurred, and it was no ordinary stare, but as if she was
    the obsessive fan and I was the star, as if she was
    drinking me up with her eyes. But I wish she had
    just gotten Ariane or Danielle to introduce us.

    If the touch and stare had occurred at the same time
    she would have landed this leprechaun, but since
    they didn’t we formed what I call an old lock between
    me, a straight-type-2-M, and her, a bif (woman attracted
    to both genders, though I think she is straight by
    lifestyle choice these days). The old lock means
    that I cannot get any other bif without her permission
    and she cannot get any other straight-type-2-M,
    just less compatible with her straight-type-1 men
    and bims (males attracted to both genders). Some
    other well-known straight-type-2 men with old locks are
    Jack Nicholson, Jim Carrey, Leonardo Dicaprio,
    Chris Issak, and Josh Groban. If my current magickal
    workings actually work, these old locks (and any
    other no-sex locks) will be rendered incomplete.

    But anyway, I know that there oodles of cases of fans
    thinking lyrics are about and/or for them, so I don’t
    expect you to believe me.

    Interesting back story, David.

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  • From W.Dockery@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Sun Sep 17 04:20:51 2023
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    David Dalton wrote:

    Here's a few of my poetry and song snippets from 1993 -- 1995:

    https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html

    I won’t copy and paste them all here since then some
    needed spacing in some of them won’t be reproduced,
    at least in Hogwasher newsreader which I use when
    I am in St. John’s.

    Back then I had good wordplay ability but suffered from
    an inability to complete projects. I hope that my creativity
    will return soon and that it will include the ability to
    complete projects and to do longer poems and songs.

    Constructive(!) criticism is welcome.

    Some of them do show my interest in Sarah McLachlan,
    but I never bothered her. However her record label
    person who was on the mailing list must have relayed
    the best of my writing to her since she silently approached
    me twice in the spring of 1995, which is reflected in some
    of the lyrics on her 1997 Surfacing album.

    Back to the topic, good work, David, I hope you get past the writer's block and get some new poetry going soon.


    HTH and HAND.

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  • From W.Dockery@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Mon Sep 18 04:47:18 2023
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    On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 5:59:54 PM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
    On Sep 17, 2023, Michael Pendragon wrote
    (in article<0bf762c1-79a0-4934...@googlegroups.com>):
    On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 12:38:09 AM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
    On Sep 17, 2023, Michael Pendragon wrote
    (in article<59226ee5-891a-4553...@googlegroups.com>):
    On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 10:23:50 PM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
    On Sep 16, 2023, Michael Pendragon wrote
    (in article<4eb745ae-5eef-4d4b...@googlegroups.com>):
    On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 12:30:12 AM UTC-4, David Dalton
    wrote:

    Then is early spring 1995 Ariane put me on the guest list
    for Shane MacGowan and The Popes with The Paperboys
    opening, at The Commodore Ballroom, and that is
    where the elbow pulling incident occurred. And it
    was no ordinary touch, but similar to that described in
    these lyrics by The Weather Station:

    "There was a time you put your hand on the small of my back I was surprised
    that you touched me like that
    But there in your hand was a current of life
    I could hardly stand.”

    It was an electric, warming, compatible touch, but I didn’t realize it was her until after the later stare incident occurred, since she ran off so fast.

    Wait a second...

    She allegedly pulled your elbow.

    She then wrote a song about someone (unidentified in the lyric) putting
    his
    hand on the small of her back.

    Huh, I said that the lyrics about the small of the back were by
    The Weather Station, not by Sarah, but that it was a similar electric, warming, compatible touch. You are not a very
    good reader, and seem to be a contrarian.

    I'm a very good reader, David. I just don't have any knowledge of pop music
    (post 1964). I don't know a thing about Sarah McLachlan. I googled her to
    see
    who you were talking about, and found the information about her stalker on
    Wikipedia. I assumed that the "Weather Station" was either Sarah's album or
    band.

    Now you're saying that some band that wasn't connected with Sarah wrote a
    lyric about a man placing his hand on the small of a woman's back, and that
    this is a secret reference to Sarah's having pulled your elbow?
    I didn’t say it was a reference to the elbow touch. I said it
    was a similar touch, this time between a bim and a
    straight-type-2-F, whereas Sarah and I are a bif and
    a straight-type-2-M.

    Apart from being a touch (and touches are very common occurrences), why should Weather Station's lyric be about Sarah touching you?
    They aren’t, they are about a similar Touch.
    1) You wrote about Sarah in a fan group.
    2) A friend of hers *may* have brought some of your posts to her attention.
    Obviously she did, based on Sarah’s behaviour towards me
    in the spring of 1995.

    1) It isn't obvious to me.
    2) AFAICS Sarah's only "behavior" was to stare back (if she even was staring)
    at someone who was staring at her.
    No, I did not initiate the stare. I was coming back from the
    washroom and she was standing near the bar and directly
    faced me and stared at me as if I was her long lost lover.
    3) One night at a bar someone pulled your elbow, but you didn't see who it
    was.
    I saw her from behind, and my memory of the incident later
    was consistent with it being her.

    If you only saw her from behind, she might not have even been in the bar. And
    your memory of being pulled would be just as consistent if applied to anyone
    else who was in the bar.

    IMHO, people don't pull on the elbows of strangers (or even of friends). I suspect that someone caught their jacket or purse on you as they passed. In any case, the "pulling" would have been accidental.
    No, I was on some steps off to the side in a rapidly emptying
    bar, and she came up behind me and palmed my right
    elbow from behind and pulled it to the left, causing me
    to look to the left, and she ran off to the right. Again it
    was a warming, electric, compatible Touch, and was
    most definitely not accidental.
    How can you be sure that Sarah simply wasn't lost in thought and completely unaware of what her eyes appeared to be "staring" at?
    She wasn’t sitting down, she was planted standing about a metre
    away from me near the bar, full frontal, no doubt.

    I mentioned the songs Sweet Surrender and I Love You.

    Other references that may have been to me in her lyrics
    are:

    1. I Will Remember You (IWRY)

    "But once there was a darkness, deep and endless night
    You gave me everything you had, oh you gave me light”

    which indicated that my playful writing brought her out
    of depression, like Jesus casting demons out of
    Mary Magdalene.

    2. Do What You Have To Do

    "And I have the sense to recognize
    That I don’t know how to let you go
    Every moment marked with apparitions of your soul
    I’m ever swiftly moving, trying to escape this desire

    <snip>

    A glowing ember
    Burning hot and burning slow
    Deep within, I’m shaken by the violence
    Of existing for only you”

    3. Adia

    "Adia I’m empty since you left me trying to find a way to carry on
    I search myself and everyone
    to see where we went wrong”

    (written after I left Vancouver at the end of 1995,
    and note that on the FTE list I referred to her as
    S quite often and myself as D at times, and in
    the song at times she says “A D” for Adia).

    4. Building a Mystery

    (written after I wrote her a long letter that later served as
    a first draft for my Salmon on the Thorns web page)

    "Oh you’re so beautiful
    A beautiful fucked up man
    You’re setting up your
    Razor wire shrine

    ‘Cause you’re working
    Building a mystery
    Holding on, holding it in
    Oh yeah you’re working
    Building a mystery
    And choosing so carefully”

    (so that one was less complimentary. And when she
    did the song at a September 10, 2004 concert in
    Vancouver that I attended, when she said
    “beautiful fucked-up man” she looked in my
    direction, and I had posted my seat number to
    alt.music.s-mclachlan.)

    5. Illusions of Bliss

    “ ‘Cause it’s you who released me
    It’s you who gave me fire
    Oh, and now it’s impossible to grow
    Without breaking stride, I get so high

    Take me out beyond the incline
    Make it past the former fault line
    For today I let the moment win

    Here I go again, saying things I shouldn’t say
    Just so I can hear them back from you”

    which references my Earth Sciences background,
    and again my releasing her from depression.

    6. Monsters

    "And don’t you know that there’s a wolf stalking in sheep’s
    clothing tells me he’s the real thing
    Think what your life would be missing
    if you didn’t have him to sing
    To sing about”

    Which references my claim to be similar to The Lamb,
    and I guess that I may have been guilty of a little
    e-stalking, and that she has sung about me.

    The above six, and Sweet Surrender and I Love You
    that I quoted from earlier, are all from after the
    Fumbling Towards Ecstasy album, so within the
    period when she may have been aware of me. But
    I also fulfilled prophecies made by her in some of
    her earlier songs, especially in my 1991 sun stare, naked
    thorn hill climb, and blue rose vision, which I
    didn’t discuss online much until late 1996 and 1997,
    but I think she was aware of the sun stare.
    And I think that she has prophetic dreams ability.

    Also at her Sunflower Sunday concert I spread my
    arms wide and then cast them towards her, and I
    think she saw me and felt something (I later
    mentioned it in a review that I posted, which is
    on my home page, as is a picture of me with
    her on stage on November 14, 2014, which
    she wouldn’t have done if she considered me
    a stalker).

    Also on the night of January 29, 1995, shortly before
    new moon, I sent a factor 100 (where 10 is excellent)
    kundalini antenna orgasm wave from Vancouver to
    her and Crystal (who I had not seen, so it may not have
    gone to her) then in New Zealand, and I think she
    felt it. Weeks later I received a similar wave that
    I think was from her, though at the time I joked that
    it may have been from a blue whale near Hawaii.

    Also some mystic blocks associated with me including
    against recognition of my presence in the artwork of
    others, and against my having romantic involvement
    with Sarah, have supposedly been lifted, so I hope
    you will re-evaluate your position.
    --
    https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) "For she is the perfect creature, natural in every feature
    And I am the geek with the alchemists' stone" (Jimmy MacCarthy)

    Again, interesting back story.

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to W.Dockery on Mon Sep 18 03:05:49 2023
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.music.lyrics

    On Sep 18, 2023, W.Dockery wrote
    (in article<b833391a8b612da7c412e6ab1afb95a3@news.novabbs.com>):

    Again, interesting back story.

    Thanks, Will.

    --
    https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) "For she is the perfect creature, natural in every feature
    And I am the geek with the alchemists' stone" (Jimmy MacCarthy)

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  • From W.Dockery@21:1/5 to NancyGene on Mon Sep 18 17:46:26 2023
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.music.lyrics

    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:33:40 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 4:58:22 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 2:23:21 AM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
    A while before the elbow pulling incident I had made a joke
    on the FTE list about Paddy Moloney of The Chieftains
    teaching Sarah how to pull a pint of Guinness, and I
    think I mentioned the elbow pulling trick then. However
    I seem to have not saved it in https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/fte.txt . Also it was not passing in a crowd, it is a huge bar and there
    was plenty of room to pass by; most of the crowd had left
    by then.

    Sarah’s best friend is not named Adia, but Crystal. It
    is true that she said that Adia was about Crystal, but
    I think she may have lied, and anyway, she has often
    said that some of her songs (including Building a Mystery)
    are composites drawing on more than one character.

    As for why I didn’t approach her at the bar, I meant to.
    When the stare ended we both went to the bar and
    I meant to say hello but a woman came between us
    and it was as if we were swept apart (I guess by that
    mystic block). She then ordered a Swan or Sharp’s
    (a near beer) and I should have said I’ll have what she’s
    having, but I ordered a rye and water, partly a play
    on her then hair colour, and partly a play on the song IWRY.
    Then I meant to approach her (I was by then alone, my
    friends had left) amidst her party, but a song by her
    friend Holly McNarland disturbed me and a while later
    I left to hear Colin Hay of Men at Work across the
    street at The Railway Club. But basically I was somewhat
    intimidated by her bold approach, am very introverted,
    and partly did not want to bother her. But if Ariane
    or Danielle had simply introduced us things would have
    been fine.

    As for my letters, I started with a short letter in July of 1996
    in which I mentioned our 1995 interactions and promised
    a longer letter. At that stage someone at her (then small) record
    company was reading letters and would have passed
    it to her, and probably later passed the long letter without
    reading it. The “beautiful fucked up man” and
    “building a mystery” comments in Building a Mystery
    indicate that she read the long letter, I think including
    a comment on my then deities Gaia, Sola, and Cosma
    at the end.

    Anyway, I know there is a special connection between
    me and Sarah, but I don’t expect you to believe me,
    but I am not lying about the intensity of the Touch
    and the Stare. And now that she is divorced and
    as far as I know free from romantic attachments again,
    thereis a chance that she will grab me. However,
    if the old lock has been rendered incomplete and
    the mystic blocks have been lifted, I am now available
    to other bifs, and won’t wait for Sarah for long unless
    she asks me to (and not in a song).

    Her song Stupid is also about me:

    "How stupid could I be? A simpleton could see
    That you’re no good for me
    But you’re the only one I see"

    The mystic blocks were not lifted when you posted
    your latest post, but now supposedly have been.

    If you choose to reply again, you can have the
    last word; this is getting tiresome. At least
    Will seems to think I have a good story.
    Is anyone else reading?
    *crickets*
    David Dalton and Will Dockery decided that they needed to cross post this conversation to rec.arts.poems and alt.music.lyrics, in search of readers. There is no one home at those groups.

    The cross post is automatic, when using Nova BBS.

    HTH and HAND.

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 18 19:44:20 2023
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.music.lyrics

    On Sep 18, 2023, David Dalton wrote
    (in article<0001HW.2AB9016F009278E47000041A638F@news.eternal-september.org>):

    On Sep 18, 2023, W.Dockery wrote
    (in article<af5b6ce578fa0533290347fdb82998ef@news.novabbs.com>):

    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:33:40 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 4:58:22 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 2:23:21 AM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
    A while before the elbow pulling incident I had made a joke
    on the FTE list about Paddy Moloney of The Chieftains
    teaching Sarah how to pull a pint of Guinness, and I
    think I mentioned the elbow pulling trick then. However
    I seem to have not saved it in https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/fte.txt .
    Also it was not passing in a crowd, it is a huge bar and there
    was plenty of room to pass by; most of the crowd had left
    by then.

    Sarah’s best friend is not named Adia, but Crystal. It
    is true that she said that Adia was about Crystal, but
    I think she may have lied, and anyway, she has often
    said that some of her songs (including Building a Mystery)
    are composites drawing on more than one character.

    As for why I didn’t approach her at the bar, I meant to.
    When the stare ended we both went to the bar and
    I meant to say hello but a woman came between us
    and it was as if we were swept apart (I guess by that
    mystic block). She then ordered a Swan or Sharp’s
    (a near beer) and I should have said I’ll have what she’s
    having, but I ordered a rye and water, partly a play
    on her then hair colour, and partly a play on the song IWRY.
    Then I meant to approach her (I was by then alone, my
    friends had left) amidst her party, but a song by her
    friend Holly McNarland disturbed me and a while later
    I left to hear Colin Hay of Men at Work across the
    street at The Railway Club. But basically I was somewhat
    intimidated by her bold approach, am very introverted,
    and partly did not want to bother her. But if Ariane
    or Danielle had simply introduced us things would have
    been fine.

    As for my letters, I started with a short letter in July of 1996
    in which I mentioned our 1995 interactions and promised
    a longer letter. At that stage someone at her (then small) record company was reading letters and would have passed
    it to her, and probably later passed the long letter without
    reading it. The “beautiful fucked up man” and
    “building a mystery” comments in Building a Mystery
    indicate that she read the long letter, I think including
    a comment on my then deities Gaia, Sola, and Cosma
    at the end.

    Anyway, I know there is a special connection between
    me and Sarah, but I don’t expect you to believe me,
    but I am not lying about the intensity of the Touch
    and the Stare. And now that she is divorced and
    as far as I know free from romantic attachments again,
    thereis a chance that she will grab me. However,
    if the old lock has been rendered incomplete and
    the mystic blocks have been lifted, I am now available
    to other bifs, and won’t wait for Sarah for long unless
    she asks me to (and not in a song).

    Her song Stupid is also about me:

    "How stupid could I be? A simpleton could see
    That you’re no good for me
    But you’re the only one I see"

    The mystic blocks were not lifted when you posted
    your latest post, but now supposedly have been.

    If you choose to reply again, you can have the
    last word; this is getting tiresome. At least
    Will seems to think I have a good story.
    Is anyone else reading?
    *crickets*
    David Dalton and Will Dockery decided that they needed to cross post this conversation to rec.arts.poems and alt.music.lyrics, in search of readers.
    There is no one home at those groups.

    The cross post is automatic, when using Nova BBS.

    HTH and HAND.

    I was reading rec.arts.poems for years when I was not
    reading alt.arts.poetry.comments .

    Also I am likely to read everything on the low traffic group
    rec.arts.poems but only a small fraction of the noisy
    alt.arts.poetry.comments .

    --
    https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) "For she is the perfect creature, natural in every feature
    And I am the geek with the alchemists' stone" (Jimmy MacCarthy)

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to W.Dockery on Mon Sep 18 19:36:39 2023
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.music.lyrics

    On Sep 18, 2023, W.Dockery wrote
    (in article<af5b6ce578fa0533290347fdb82998ef@news.novabbs.com>):

    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:33:40 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 4:58:22 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 2:23:21 AM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
    A while before the elbow pulling incident I had made a joke
    on the FTE list about Paddy Moloney of The Chieftains
    teaching Sarah how to pull a pint of Guinness, and I
    think I mentioned the elbow pulling trick then. However
    I seem to have not saved it in https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/fte.txt . Also it was not passing in a crowd, it is a huge bar and there
    was plenty of room to pass by; most of the crowd had left
    by then.

    Sarah’s best friend is not named Adia, but Crystal. It
    is true that she said that Adia was about Crystal, but
    I think she may have lied, and anyway, she has often
    said that some of her songs (including Building a Mystery)
    are composites drawing on more than one character.

    As for why I didn’t approach her at the bar, I meant to.
    When the stare ended we both went to the bar and
    I meant to say hello but a woman came between us
    and it was as if we were swept apart (I guess by that
    mystic block). She then ordered a Swan or Sharp’s
    (a near beer) and I should have said I’ll have what she’s
    having, but I ordered a rye and water, partly a play
    on her then hair colour, and partly a play on the song IWRY.
    Then I meant to approach her (I was by then alone, my
    friends had left) amidst her party, but a song by her
    friend Holly McNarland disturbed me and a while later
    I left to hear Colin Hay of Men at Work across the
    street at The Railway Club. But basically I was somewhat
    intimidated by her bold approach, am very introverted,
    and partly did not want to bother her. But if Ariane
    or Danielle had simply introduced us things would have
    been fine.

    As for my letters, I started with a short letter in July of 1996
    in which I mentioned our 1995 interactions and promised
    a longer letter. At that stage someone at her (then small) record company was reading letters and would have passed
    it to her, and probably later passed the long letter without
    reading it. The “beautiful fucked up man” and
    “building a mystery” comments in Building a Mystery
    indicate that she read the long letter, I think including
    a comment on my then deities Gaia, Sola, and Cosma
    at the end.

    Anyway, I know there is a special connection between
    me and Sarah, but I don’t expect you to believe me,
    but I am not lying about the intensity of the Touch
    and the Stare. And now that she is divorced and
    as far as I know free from romantic attachments again,
    thereis a chance that she will grab me. However,
    if the old lock has been rendered incomplete and
    the mystic blocks have been lifted, I am now available
    to other bifs, and won’t wait for Sarah for long unless
    she asks me to (and not in a song).

    Her song Stupid is also about me:

    "How stupid could I be? A simpleton could see
    That you’re no good for me
    But you’re the only one I see"

    The mystic blocks were not lifted when you posted
    your latest post, but now supposedly have been.

    If you choose to reply again, you can have the
    last word; this is getting tiresome. At least
    Will seems to think I have a good story.
    Is anyone else reading?
    *crickets*
    David Dalton and Will Dockery decided that they needed to cross post this conversation to rec.arts.poems and alt.music.lyrics, in search of readers. There is no one home at those groups.

    The cross post is automatic, when using Nova BBS.

    HTH and HAND.

    I was reading rec.arts.poems for years when I was not
    reading alt.arts.poetry.comments .

    --
    https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) "For she is the perfect creature, natural in every feature
    And I am the geek with the alchemists' stone" (Jimmy MacCarthy)

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    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From W.Dockery@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Mon Sep 18 22:37:59 2023
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.music.lyrics

    David Dalton wrote:

    On Sep 18, 2023, Will Dockery wrote
    (in article<af5b6ce578fa0533290347fdb82998ef@news.novabbs.com>):

    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:33:40 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 4:58:22 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 2:23:21 AM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:

    A while before the elbow pulling incident I had made a joke
    on the FTE list about Paddy Moloney of The Chieftains
    teaching Sarah how to pull a pint of Guinness, and I
    think I mentioned the elbow pulling trick then. However
    I seem to have not saved it in https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/fte.txt . >> > > > Also it was not passing in a crowd, it is a huge bar and there
    was plenty of room to pass by; most of the crowd had left
    by then.

    Sarah’s best friend is not named Adia, but Crystal. It
    is true that she said that Adia was about Crystal, but
    I think she may have lied, and anyway, she has often
    said that some of her songs (including Building a Mystery)
    are composites drawing on more than one character.

    As for why I didn’t approach her at the bar, I meant to.
    When the stare ended we both went to the bar and
    I meant to say hello but a woman came between us
    and it was as if we were swept apart (I guess by that
    mystic block). She then ordered a Swan or Sharp’s
    (a near beer) and I should have said I’ll have what she’s
    having, but I ordered a rye and water, partly a play
    on her then hair colour, and partly a play on the song IWRY.
    Then I meant to approach her (I was by then alone, my
    friends had left) amidst her party, but a song by her
    friend Holly McNarland disturbed me and a while later
    I left to hear Colin Hay of Men at Work across the
    street at The Railway Club. But basically I was somewhat
    intimidated by her bold approach, am very introverted,
    and partly did not want to bother her. But if Ariane
    or Danielle had simply introduced us things would have
    been fine.

    As for my letters, I started with a short letter in July of 1996
    in which I mentioned our 1995 interactions and promised
    a longer letter. At that stage someone at her (then small) record
    company was reading letters and would have passed
    it to her, and probably later passed the long letter without
    reading it. The “beautiful fucked up man” and
    “building a mystery” comments in Building a Mystery
    indicate that she read the long letter, I think including
    a comment on my then deities Gaia, Sola, and Cosma
    at the end.

    Anyway, I know there is a special connection between
    me and Sarah, but I don’t expect you to believe me,
    but I am not lying about the intensity of the Touch
    and the Stare. And now that she is divorced and
    as far as I know free from romantic attachments again,
    thereis a chance that she will grab me. However,
    if the old lock has been rendered incomplete and
    the mystic blocks have been lifted, I am now available
    to other bifs, and won’t wait for Sarah for long unless
    she asks me to (and not in a song).

    Her song Stupid is also about me:

    "How stupid could I be? A simpleton could see
    That you’re no good for me
    But you’re the only one I see"

    The mystic blocks were not lifted when you posted
    your latest post, but now supposedly have been.

    If you choose to reply again, you can have the
    last word; this is getting tiresome. At least
    Will seems to think I have a good story.
    Is anyone else reading?
    *crickets*
    David Dalton and Will Dockery decided that they needed to cross post this >> > conversation to rec.arts.poems and alt.music.lyrics, in search of readers. >> > There is no one home at those groups.

    The cross post is automatic, when using Nova BBS.

    HTH and HAND.

    I was reading rec.arts.poems for years when I was not
    reading alt.arts.poetry.comments .


    I started out on rec.arts.poems also.

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  • From W.Dockery@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Tue Sep 19 03:55:15 2023
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.music.lyrics

    David Dalton wrote:

    On Sep 18, 2023, David Dalton wrote
    (in article<0001HW.2AB9016F009278E47000041A638F@news.eternal-september.org>):

    On Sep 18, 2023, W.Dockery wrote
    (in article<af5b6ce578fa0533290347fdb82998ef@news.novabbs.com>):

    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:33:40 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 4:58:22 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote: >> > > > On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 2:23:21 AM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
    A while before the elbow pulling incident I had made a joke
    on the FTE list about Paddy Moloney of The Chieftains
    teaching Sarah how to pull a pint of Guinness, and I
    think I mentioned the elbow pulling trick then. However
    I seem to have not saved it in https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/fte.txt .
    Also it was not passing in a crowd, it is a huge bar and there
    was plenty of room to pass by; most of the crowd had left
    by then.

    Sarah’s best friend is not named Adia, but Crystal. It
    is true that she said that Adia was about Crystal, but
    I think she may have lied, and anyway, she has often
    said that some of her songs (including Building a Mystery)
    are composites drawing on more than one character.

    As for why I didn’t approach her at the bar, I meant to.
    When the stare ended we both went to the bar and
    I meant to say hello but a woman came between us
    and it was as if we were swept apart (I guess by that
    mystic block). She then ordered a Swan or Sharp’s
    (a near beer) and I should have said I’ll have what she’s
    having, but I ordered a rye and water, partly a play
    on her then hair colour, and partly a play on the song IWRY.
    Then I meant to approach her (I was by then alone, my
    friends had left) amidst her party, but a song by her
    friend Holly McNarland disturbed me and a while later
    I left to hear Colin Hay of Men at Work across the
    street at The Railway Club. But basically I was somewhat
    intimidated by her bold approach, am very introverted,
    and partly did not want to bother her. But if Ariane
    or Danielle had simply introduced us things would have
    been fine.

    As for my letters, I started with a short letter in July of 1996
    in which I mentioned our 1995 interactions and promised
    a longer letter. At that stage someone at her (then small) record
    company was reading letters and would have passed
    it to her, and probably later passed the long letter without
    reading it. The “beautiful fucked up man” and
    “building a mystery” comments in Building a Mystery
    indicate that she read the long letter, I think including
    a comment on my then deities Gaia, Sola, and Cosma
    at the end.

    Anyway, I know there is a special connection between
    me and Sarah, but I don’t expect you to believe me,
    but I am not lying about the intensity of the Touch
    and the Stare. And now that she is divorced and
    as far as I know free from romantic attachments again,
    thereis a chance that she will grab me. However,
    if the old lock has been rendered incomplete and
    the mystic blocks have been lifted, I am now available
    to other bifs, and won’t wait for Sarah for long unless
    she asks me to (and not in a song).

    Her song Stupid is also about me:

    "How stupid could I be? A simpleton could see
    That you’re no good for me
    But you’re the only one I see"

    The mystic blocks were not lifted when you posted
    your latest post, but now supposedly have been.

    If you choose to reply again, you can have the
    last word; this is getting tiresome. At least
    Will seems to think I have a good story.
    Is anyone else reading?
    *crickets*
    David Dalton and Will Dockery decided that they needed to cross post this
    conversation to rec.arts.poems and alt.music.lyrics, in search of readers.
    There is no one home at those groups.

    The cross post is automatic, when using Nova BBS.

    HTH and HAND.

    I was reading rec.arts.poems for years when I was not
    reading alt.arts.poetry.comments .

    Also I am likely to read everything on the low traffic group
    rec.arts.poems but only a small fraction of the noisy alt.arts.poetry.comments .

    A lot of the posts on a.a.p.c. are better off skipped and ignored.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From W.Dockery@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Tue Sep 19 15:46:15 2023
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.music.lyrics

    David Dalton wrote:

    On Sep 18, 2023, Ash Wurthing wrote
    (in article<8aba9ac7-2f90-4663-925a-051d32422e59n@googlegroups.com>):

    HI SARAH!!! Greetings from Ash and his inner demons! Care to enjoy Celtic
    Heavy Metal lyrics with us?

    Her ex-husband is named Ash.

    And she likes Celtic rap,

    That sounds interesting, I don't remember ever reading (or hearing) any of that.

    I'll Google it.

    C-rap, or Crap, which I might
    try doing some of by D-moon (I know at least Nancy
    would probably label it as crap, ha).

    a D.

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  • From General-Zod@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Tue Sep 19 21:06:48 2023
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.music.lyrics

    David Dalton wrote:

    Here's a few of my poetry and song snippets from 1993 -- 1995:

    https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html

    I won’t copy and paste them all here since then some
    needed spacing in some of them won’t be reproduced,
    at least in Hogwasher newsreader which I use when
    I am in St. John’s.

    Back then I had good wordplay ability but suffered from
    an inability to complete projects. I hope that my creativity
    will return soon and that it will include the ability to
    complete projects and to do longer poems and songs.

    Constructive(!) criticism is welcome.

    Some of them do show my interest in Sarah McLachlan,
    but I never bothered her. However her record label
    person who was on the mailing list must have relayed
    the best of my writing to her since she silently approached
    me twice in the spring of 1995, which is reflected in some
    of the lyrics on her 1997 Surfacing album.

    David, I have been reading these, and they are quite good... I thank you for posting..!

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to W.Dockery on Tue Sep 19 21:54:13 2023
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.music.lyrics

    On Sep 19, 2023, W.Dockery wrote
    (in article<671a23f0a1a497c1ea400c8feccb872e@news.novabbs.com>):

    David Dalton wrote:

    On Sep 18, 2023, Ash Wurthing wrote
    (in article<8aba9ac7-2f90-4663-925a-051d32422e59n@googlegroups.com>):

    HI SARAH!!! Greetings from Ash and his inner demons! Care to enjoy Celtic Heavy Metal lyrics with us?

    Her ex-husband is named Ash.

    And she likes Celtic rap,

    That sounds interesting, I don't remember ever reading (or hearing) any of that.

    I'll Google it.

    I was joking, or I guess referring to making up lyrics
    in real time to live or recorded instrumental Celtic music.

    --
    https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) "For she is the perfect creature, natural in every feature
    And I am the geek with the alchemists' stone" (Jimmy MacCarthy)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to General-Zod on Tue Sep 19 21:56:19 2023
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.music.lyrics

    On Sep 19, 2023, General-Zod wrote
    (in article<648ec39e13f5311dd613922b6abd656e@news.novabbs.com>):

    David Dalton wrote:

    Here's a few of my poetry and song snippets from 1993 -- 1995:

    https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html

    I won’t copy and paste them all here since then some
    needed spacing in some of them won’t be reproduced,
    at least in Hogwasher newsreader which I use when
    I am in St. John’s.

    Back then I had good wordplay ability but suffered from
    an inability to complete projects. I hope that my creativity
    will return soon and that it will include the ability to
    complete projects and to do longer poems and songs.

    Constructive(!) criticism is welcome.

    Some of them do show my interest in Sarah McLachlan,
    but I never bothered her. However her record label
    person who was on the mailing list must have relayed
    the best of my writing to her since she silently approached
    me twice in the spring of 1995, which is reflected in some
    of the lyrics on her 1997 Surfacing album.

    David, I have been reading these, and they are quite good... I thank you for posting..!

    Thanks, I might extract and post some of my better wordplay
    from https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/fte.txt someday as well.

    --
    https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) "For she is the perfect creature, natural in every feature
    And I am the geek with the alchemists' stone" (Jimmy MacCarthy)

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  • From W.Dockery@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Wed Sep 20 01:37:53 2023
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.music.lyrics

    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 8:26:22 PM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
    On Sep 19, 2023, General-Zod wrote
    (in article<648ec39e13f5311d...@news.novabbs.com>):
    David Dalton wrote:

    Here's a few of my poetry and song snippets from 1993 -- 1995:

    https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html

    I won’t copy and paste them all here since then some
    needed spacing in some of them won’t be reproduced,
    at least in Hogwasher newsreader which I use when
    I am in St. John’s.

    Back then I had good wordplay ability but suffered from
    an inability to complete projects. I hope that my creativity
    will return soon and that it will include the ability to
    complete projects and to do longer poems and songs.

    Constructive(!) criticism is welcome.

    Some of them do show my interest in Sarah McLachlan,
    but I never bothered her. However her record label
    person who was on the mailing list must have relayed
    the best of my writing to her since she silently approached
    me twice in the spring of 1995, which is reflected in some
    of the lyrics on her 1997 Surfacing album.

    David, I have been reading these, and they are quite good... I thank you for
    posting..!
    Thanks, I might extract and post some of my better wordplay
    from https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/fte.txt someday as well.

    Great idea, I look forward to seeing it.

    --
    https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) "For she is the perfect creature, natural in every feature
    And I am the geek with the alchemists' stone" (Jimmy MacCarthy)

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  • From W.Dockery@21:1/5 to General-Zod on Thu Sep 21 15:14:41 2023
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.music.lyrics

    General-Zod wrote:

    David Dalton wrote:

    Here's a few of my poetry and song snippets from 1993 -- 1995:

    https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html

    I won’t copy and paste them all here since then some
    needed spacing in some of them won’t be reproduced,
    at least in Hogwasher newsreader which I use when
    I am in St. John’s.

    Back then I had good wordplay ability but suffered from
    an inability to complete projects. I hope that my creativity
    will return soon and that it will include the ability to
    complete projects and to do longer poems and songs.

    Constructive(!) criticism is welcome.

    Some of them do show my interest in Sarah McLachlan,
    but I never bothered her. However her record label
    person who was on the mailing list must have relayed
    the best of my writing to her since she silently approached
    me twice in the spring of 1995, which is reflected in some
    of the lyrics on her 1997 Surfacing album.

    David, I have been reading these, and they are quite good... I thank you for posting..!


    Agreed and seconded.

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  • From General-Zod@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Thu Sep 21 21:09:20 2023
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.music.lyrics

    David Dalton wrote:

    On Sep 19, 2023, General-Zod wrote
    (in article<648ec39e13f5311dd613922b6abd656e@news.novabbs.com>):

    David Dalton wrote:

    Here's a few of my poetry and song snippets from 1993 -- 1995:

    https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html

    I won’t copy and paste them all here since then some
    needed spacing in some of them won’t be reproduced,
    at least in Hogwasher newsreader which I use when
    I am in St. John’s.

    Back then I had good wordplay ability but suffered from
    an inability to complete projects. I hope that my creativity
    will return soon and that it will include the ability to
    complete projects and to do longer poems and songs.

    Constructive(!) criticism is welcome.

    Some of them do show my interest in Sarah McLachlan,
    but I never bothered her. However her record label
    person who was on the mailing list must have relayed
    the best of my writing to her since she silently approached
    me twice in the spring of 1995, which is reflected in some
    of the lyrics on her 1997 Surfacing album.

    David, I have been reading these, and they are quite good... I thank you for >> posting..!

    Thanks, I might extract and post some of my better wordplay
    from https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/fte.txt someday as well.

    Good plan, in my opinion...

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  • From W.Dockery@21:1/5 to Ash Wurthing on Sat Sep 23 15:21:35 2023
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.music.lyrics

    Ash Wurthing wrote:

    On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 7:43:31 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
    On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 7:26:46 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 12:00:13 AM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
    David Dalton wrote:

    On Sep 18, 2023, David Dalton wrote

    (in article<0001HW.2AB9016F00...@news.eternal-september.org>):

    On Sep 18, 2023, W.Dockery wrote
    (in article<af5b6ce578fa0533...@news.novabbs.com>):

    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:33:40 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 4:58:22 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 2:23:21 AM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
    A while before the elbow pulling incident I had made a joke >> > > >> > > > > on the FTE list about Paddy Moloney of The Chieftains
    teaching Sarah how to pull a pint of Guinness, and I
    think I mentioned the elbow pulling trick then. However
    I seem to have not saved it in https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/fte.txt .
    Also it was not passing in a crowd, it is a huge bar and there
    was plenty of room to pass by; most of the crowd had left
    by then.

    Sarah’s best friend is not named Adia, but Crystal.. It
    is true that she said that Adia was about Crystal, but
    I think she may have lied, and anyway, she has often
    said that some of her songs (including Building a Mystery)
    are composites drawing on more than one character.

    As for why I didn’t approach her at the bar, I meant to.
    When the stare ended we both went to the bar and
    I meant to say hello but a woman came between us
    and it was as if we were swept apart (I guess by that
    mystic block). She then ordered a Swan or Sharp’s
    (a near beer) and I should have said I’ll have what she’s >> > > >> > > > > having, but I ordered a rye and water, partly a play
    on her then hair colour, and partly a play on the song IWRY. >> > > >> > > > > Then I meant to approach her (I was by then alone, my
    friends had left) amidst her party, but a song by her
    friend Holly McNarland disturbed me and a while later
    I left to hear Colin Hay of Men at Work across the
    street at The Railway Club. But basically I was somewhat
    intimidated by her bold approach, am very introverted,
    and partly did not want to bother her. But if Ariane
    or Danielle had simply introduced us things would have
    been fine.

    As for my letters, I started with a short letter in July of 1996
    in which I mentioned our 1995 interactions and promised
    a longer letter. At that stage someone at her (then small) record
    company was reading letters and would have passed
    it to her, and probably later passed the long letter without >> > > >> > > > > reading it. The “beautiful fucked up man” and
    “building a mystery” comments in Building a Mystery
    indicate that she read the long letter, I think including
    a comment on my then deities Gaia, Sola, and Cosma
    at the end.

    Anyway, I know there is a special connection between
    me and Sarah, but I don’t expect you to believe me,
    but I am not lying about the intensity of the Touch
    and the Stare. And now that she is divorced and
    as far as I know free from romantic attachments again,
    thereis a chance that she will grab me. However,
    if the old lock has been rendered incomplete and
    the mystic blocks have been lifted, I am now available
    to other bifs, and won’t wait for Sarah for long unless
    she asks me to (and not in a song).

    Her song Stupid is also about me:

    "How stupid could I be? A simpleton could see
    That you’re no good for me
    But you’re the only one I see"

    The mystic blocks were not lifted when you posted
    your latest post, but now supposedly have been.

    If you choose to reply again, you can have the
    last word; this is getting tiresome. At least
    Will seems to think I have a good story.
    Is anyone else reading?
    *crickets*
    David Dalton and Will Dockery decided that they needed to cross post this
    conversation to rec.arts.poems and alt.music.lyrics, in search of readers.
    There is no one home at those groups.

    The cross post is automatic, when using Nova BBS.

    HTH and HAND.

    I was reading rec.arts.poems for years when I was not
    reading alt.arts.poetry.comments .

    Also I am likely to read everything on the low traffic group
    rec.arts.poems but only a small fraction of the noisy
    alt.arts.poetry.comments .
    A lot of the posts on a.a.p.c. are better off skipped and ignored.
    Hilarious! You get Lo7 of teh Week!! Most of the posts on AAPC are by you, Zod and Jordy!!!
    Definitely, if you don't have an interest in my posts, simply skip and ignore them.

    I usually do

    Same here, as I usually skip and ignore most of the malicious and obsessive troll threads begun ny NancyGene, Pendragon and their ilk.

    HTH and HAND.

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  • From General-Zod@21:1/5 to rachel on Wed Oct 25 15:48:17 2023
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.music.lyrics

    On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 11:41:39 AM UTC-4, rachel wrote:
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 9:13:57 PM UTC-7, David Dalton wrote:

    Here's a few of my poetry and song snippets from 1993 -- 1995:

    https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html

    I won’t copy and paste them all here since then some
    needed spacing in some of them won’t be reproduced,
    at least in Hogwasher newsreader which I use when
    I am in St. John’s.

    Back then I had good wordplay ability but suffered from
    an inability to complete projects. I hope that my creativity
    will return soon and that it will include the ability to
    complete projects and to do longer poems and songs.

    Constructive(!) criticism is welcome.

    Some of them do show my interest in Sarah McLachlan,
    but I never bothered her. However her record label
    person who was on the mailing list must have relayed
    the best of my writing to her since she silently approached
    me twice in the spring of 1995, which is reflected in some
    of the lyrics on her 1997 Surfacing album.

    --
    https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) "And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;
    And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand” (Ferron)
    i didn't read the whole thing but these looked really good!! :)

    do you have finished pieces? i bet those are great. :)

    Hi Rachel..... agreed and seconded...!

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to General-Zod on Wed Oct 25 18:23:09 2023
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.music.lyrics

    On Oct 25, 2023, General-Zod wrote
    (in article<4948a4b721b5af908d367cf704814484@news.novabbs.com>):

    On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 11:41:39 AM UTC-4, rachel wrote:
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 9:13:57 PM UTC-7, David Dalton wrote:

    Here's a few of my poetry and song snippets from 1993 -- 1995:

    https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html

    I won’t copy and paste them all here since then some
    needed spacing in some of them won’t be reproduced,
    at least in Hogwasher newsreader which I use when
    I am in St. John’s.

    Back then I had good wordplay ability but suffered from
    an inability to complete projects. I hope that my creativity
    will return soon and that it will include the ability to
    complete projects and to do longer poems and songs.

    Constructive(!) criticism is welcome.

    Some of them do show my interest in Sarah McLachlan,
    but I never bothered her. However her record label
    person who was on the mailing list must have relayed
    the best of my writing to her since she silently approached
    me twice in the spring of 1995, which is reflected in some
    of the lyrics on her 1997 Surfacing album.
    i didn't read the whole thing but these looked really good!! :)

    do you have finished pieces? i bet those are great. :)

    Hi Rachel..... agreed and seconded...!

    I didn’t see Rachel’s post, probably since google groups was
    being filtered out by Eternal September for a while.

    I haven’t written anything poetic in a long while now, but
    expect my creativity to return soon, and when it does I
    will definitely write some. Though I suppose even now
    I could mechanically build something using form, metre,
    and rhyme, brick by brick, rather than relying on creative
    flow/bread crumb trail/drunken walk of words.

    --
    https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) "Spring come to you at the farthest In the very end of harvest. Scarcity
    and want shall shun you. Ceres' blessing so is on you." (Shakespeare)

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  • From General-Zod@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Wed Oct 25 22:21:17 2023
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.music.lyrics

    David Dalton wrote:

    On Oct 25, 2023, General-Zod wrote
    (in article<4948a4b721b5af908d367cf704814484@news.novabbs.com>):

    On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 11:41:39 AM UTC-4, rachel wrote:
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 9:13:57 PM UTC-7, David Dalton wrote: >> >
    Here's a few of my poetry and song snippets from 1993 -- 1995:

    https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html

    I won’t copy and paste them all here since then some
    needed spacing in some of them won’t be reproduced,
    at least in Hogwasher newsreader which I use when
    I am in St. John’s.

    Back then I had good wordplay ability but suffered from
    an inability to complete projects. I hope that my creativity
    will return soon and that it will include the ability to
    complete projects and to do longer poems and songs.

    Constructive(!) criticism is welcome.

    Some of them do show my interest in Sarah McLachlan,
    but I never bothered her. However her record label
    person who was on the mailing list must have relayed
    the best of my writing to her since she silently approached
    me twice in the spring of 1995, which is reflected in some
    of the lyrics on her 1997 Surfacing album.
    i didn't read the whole thing but these looked really good!! :)

    do you have finished pieces? i bet those are great. :)

    Hi Rachel..... agreed and seconded...!

    I didn’t see Rachel’s post, probably since google groups was
    being filtered out by Eternal September for a while.

    I haven’t written anything poetic in a long while now, but
    expect my creativity to return soon, and when it does I
    will definitely write some. Though I suppose even now
    I could mechanically build something using form, metre,
    and rhyme, brick by brick, rather than relying on creative
    flow/bread crumb trail/drunken walk of words.

    Hi D.D.... well put..!

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  • From W.Dockery@21:1/5 to General-Zod on Mon Oct 30 17:15:06 2023
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.music.lyrics

    General-Zod wrote:

    David Dalton wrote:

    On Oct 25, 2023, General-Zod wrote
    (in article<4948a4b721b5af908d367cf704814484@news.novabbs.com>):

    On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 11:41:39 AM UTC-4, rachel wrote:
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 9:13:57 PM UTC-7, David Dalton wrote: >>> >
    Here's a few of my poetry and song snippets from 1993 -- 1995:

    https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html

    I won’t copy and paste them all here since then some
    needed spacing in some of them won’t be reproduced,
    at least in Hogwasher newsreader which I use when
    I am in St. John’s.

    Back then I had good wordplay ability but suffered from
    an inability to complete projects. I hope that my creativity
    will return soon and that it will include the ability to
    complete projects and to do longer poems and songs.

    Constructive(!) criticism is welcome.

    Some of them do show my interest in Sarah McLachlan,
    but I never bothered her. However her record label
    person who was on the mailing list must have relayed
    the best of my writing to her since she silently approached
    me twice in the spring of 1995, which is reflected in some
    of the lyrics on her 1997 Surfacing album.
    i didn't read the whole thing but these looked really good!! :)

    do you have finished pieces? i bet those are great. :)

    Hi Rachel..... agreed and seconded...!

    I didn’t see Rachel’s post, probably since google groups was
    being filtered out by Eternal September for a while.

    I haven’t written anything poetic in a long while now, but
    expect my creativity to return soon, and when it does I
    will definitely write some. Though I suppose even now
    I could mechanically build something using form, metre,
    and rhyme, brick by brick, rather than relying on creative
    flow/bread crumb trail/drunken walk of words.

    Hi D.D.... well put..!


    Good afternoon, agreed.

    😃

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  • From W.Dockery@21:1/5 to roach on Tue Oct 31 04:30:15 2023
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.music.lyrics

    roach wrote:

    On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 1:53:12 PM UTC-7, David Dalton wrote:
    On Oct 25, 2023, General-Zod wrote
    (in article<4948a4b721b5af90...@news.novabbs.com>):
    On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 11:41:39 AM UTC-4, rachel wrote:
    On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 9:13:57 PM UTC-7, David Dalton wrote: >> > >
    Here's a few of my poetry and song snippets from 1993 -- 1995:

    https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html

    I won’t copy and paste them all here since then some
    needed spacing in some of them won’t be reproduced,
    at least in Hogwasher newsreader which I use when
    I am in St. John’s.

    Back then I had good wordplay ability but suffered from
    an inability to complete projects. I hope that my creativity
    will return soon and that it will include the ability to
    complete projects and to do longer poems and songs.

    Constructive(!) criticism is welcome.

    Some of them do show my interest in Sarah McLachlan,
    but I never bothered her. However her record label
    person who was on the mailing list must have relayed
    the best of my writing to her since she silently approached
    me twice in the spring of 1995, which is reflected in some
    of the lyrics on her 1997 Surfacing album.
    i didn't read the whole thing but these looked really good!! :)

    do you have finished pieces? i bet those are great. :)

    Hi Rachel..... agreed and seconded...!
    I didn’t see Rachel’s post, probably since google groups was
    being filtered out by Eternal September for a while.

    I haven’t written anything poetic in a long while now, but
    expect my creativity to return soon, and when it does I
    will definitely write some. Though I suppose even now
    I could mechanically build something using form, metre,
    and rhyme, brick by brick, rather than relying on creative
    flow/bread crumb trail/drunken walk of words.
    --
    https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) >> "Spring come to you at the farthest In the very end of harvest. Scarcity
    and want shall shun you. Ceres' blessing so is on you." (Shakespeare)

    hi reading this now seems FAMILIAR so i am surprised i didn't respond to you, i'm sorry, maybe it's the kind of thing like there was nothing to say, like taking it all in was enough to completely fill me, i can totally relate i hate thinking that what
    one/you like to do it be creative and you have no idea where it comes from and you can't do it on demand and you just really don't want to "just do it" like write when you have nothing to say waiting for inspiration i always keep thinking that's it i'm
    done i don't think i have anything left to write or say insofar as making a poem or whatever

    Interesting observations, Rachel, interesting how?

    They're self explanatory.


    😃

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  • From General-Zod@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Sat Nov 4 20:19:44 2023
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.music.lyrics

    David Dalton wrote:

    Here's a few of my poetry and song snippets from 1993 -- 1995:

    https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html

    I won’t copy and paste them all here since then some
    needed spacing in some of them won’t be reproduced,
    at least in Hogwasher newsreader which I use when
    I am in St. John’s.

    Back then I had good wordplay ability but suffered from
    an inability to complete projects. I hope that my creativity
    will return soon and that it will include the ability to
    complete projects and to do longer poems and songs.

    Constructive(!) criticism is welcome.

    Some of them do show my interest in Sarah McLachlan,
    but I never bothered her. However her record label
    person who was on the mailing list must have relayed
    the best of my writing to her since she silently approached
    me twice in the spring of 1995, which is reflected in some
    of the lyrics on her 1997 Surfacing album.

    Hi there, having another read, quite a good collection of poems...

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  • From W.Dockery@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Thu Nov 9 07:25:00 2023
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.music.lyrics

    David Dalton wrote:

    Here's a few of my poetry and song snippets from 1993 -- 1995:

    https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html

    I won’t copy and paste them all here since then some
    needed spacing in some of them won’t be reproduced,
    at least in Hogwasher newsreader which I use when
    I am in St. John’s.

    Back then I had good wordplay ability but suffered from
    an inability to complete projects. I hope that my creativity
    will return soon and that it will include the ability to
    complete projects and to do longer poems and songs.

    Constructive(!) criticism is welcome.

    Some of them do show my interest in Sarah McLachlan,
    but I never bothered her. However her record label
    person who was on the mailing list must have relayed
    the best of my writing to her since she silently approached
    me twice in the spring of 1995, which is reflected in some
    of the lyrics on her 1997 Surfacing album.

    Again, you should post selections here, David.

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  • From General-Zod@21:1/5 to NancyGene on Tue Nov 14 20:16:37 2023
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.music.lyrics

    NancyGene wrote:

    On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 4:13:57 AM UTC, David Dalton wrote:

    Here's a few of my poetry and song snippets from 1993 -- 1995:

    https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html

    I won’t copy and paste them all here since then some
    needed spacing in some of them won’t be reproduced,
    at least in Hogwasher newsreader which I use when
    I am in St. John’s.

    Mr. Dalton, you have no poetry writing talent. At. All.

    Back then I had good wordplay ability but suffered from
    an inability to complete projects. I hope that my creativity
    will return soon and that it will include the ability to
    complete projects and to do longer poems and songs.

    First, you should find out how to write poems and not the embarrassingly juvenile, no meter examples that you have offered.

    Constructive(!) criticism is welcome.

    Some of them do show my interest in Sarah McLachlan,
    but I never bothered her. However her record label
    person who was on the mailing list must have relayed
    the best of my writing to her since she silently approached
    me twice in the spring of 1995, which is reflected in some
    of the lyrics on her 1997 Surfacing album.

    Sure, she "silently approached" you xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    Hush up, troll...!

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to W.Dockery on Sat Jan 20 04:51:05 2024
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.music.lyrics

    On Jan 19, 2024, W.Dockery wrote
    (in article<b9407571ea5b0348becb3b1e834db89e@www.novabbs.com>):

    David Dalton wrote:

    Here's a few of my poetry and song snippets from 1993 -- 1995:

    https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html

    I won’t copy and paste them all here since then some
    needed spacing in some of them won’t be reproduced,
    at least in Hogwasher newsreader which I use when
    I am in St. John’s.

    Back then I had good wordplay ability but suffered from
    an inability to complete projects. I hope that my creativity
    will return soon and that it will include the ability to
    complete projects and to do longer poems and songs.

    Constructive(!) criticism is welcome.

    Some of them do show my interest in Sarah McLachlan,
    but I never bothered her. However her record label
    person who was on the mailing list must have relayed
    the best of my writing to her since she silently approached
    me twice in the spring of 1995, which is reflected in some
    of the lyrics on her 1997 Surfacing album.

    Hope 2024 is a good poetry year for you, David.

    😃

    Thanks, Will, and the same to you and other readers!

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “It dpesn't matter baby, if you're a non-believer, the axe has fallen...
    I give to you The Bitch Goddess of Truth" (Lizband -- Queen of Swords)

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