• Re: Kris Kristofferson R.I.P.

    From George J. Dance@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 11 15:26:26 2024
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, rec.music.dylan

    This week's Dancehall is a tribute and memorial to the legendary Kris Kristofferson. We're pleased to bring you 29 of his greatest
    performances from his 5-decade career; and as a bonus, his five highest-charting songs covered by other artists (all of them now gone as
    well).
    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_uEAOzPGnDF6rQkbZ4SuTDiegY5VaX3X

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  • From George J. Dance@21:1/5 to W.Dockery on Fri Oct 11 15:25:46 2024
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, rec.music.dylan

    On Tue, 8 Oct 2024 15:44:26 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

    For The Good Times / Kris Kristofferson https://youtu.be/TjYM-YOw_-Y?si=NKJXv-cstQJ02FZl

    Ah, that's why I missed that song earlier.

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  • From %@21:1/5 to Jordy on Mon Oct 14 12:07:14 2024
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, rec.music.dylan

    Jordy wrote:
    Someone reposted this in another NG… don’t object! Just wish they
    would tell me how to post to other groups as well…


    http://tinyurl.com/peescent

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  • From George J. Dance@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 14 16:45:56 2024
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, rec.music.dylan

    Are you reading and posting on NovaBBS, Jordy? If so, take a look at the headers (the 5 lines above the post). The second one, "newsgroups",
    controls where your message gets posted. Notice how they appear, eg.

    alt.arts.poetry.comments,rec.arts.poems

    (name or group written in full in lower case, just a comma (no spaces)
    between groups).

    If you're making a new post, the default there will be the group you're
    posting from; so you have to write in the other groups there yourself.
    You can write in up to 5 groups and I think (though I haven't tested it)
    they all have to be groups NovaBBS carries. Otherwise, the message won't
    post and you'll get a warning; just edit the line and try posting again,
    and it should work.

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  • From cpyle4bob@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 15 22:37:31 2024
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, rec.music.dylan

    If you look on the very top of the page, in the grey area, it says "mail
    files register ect", there is also one that says groups, click on that
    and it will show you all the groups supported by this site. hope that
    helps

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  • From Retro Guy@21:1/5 to Jordy on Sat Oct 19 19:30:54 2024
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, rec.music.dylan

    On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:39:41 +0000, Jordy wrote:

    On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:45:41 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:

    Are you reading and posting on NovaBBS, Jordy? If so, take a look at the
    headers (the 5 lines above the post). The second one, "newsgroups",
    controls where your message gets posted. Notice how they appear, eg.

    alt.arts.poetry.comments,rec.arts.poems

    (name or group written in full in lower case, just a comma (no spaces)
    between groups).

    If you're making a new post, the default there will be the group you're
    posting from; so you have to write in the other groups there yourself.
    You can write in up to 5 groups and I think (though I haven't tested it)
    they all have to be groups NovaBBS carries. Otherwise, the message won't
    post and you'll get a warning; just edit the line and try posting again,
    and it should work.
    Will give it a try, thanks George 🙏

    As an added note, if you post to one group, then post to another group
    the same content, it will not work. You will see the second post on this
    site (novabbs), but it will not propagate across Usenet.

    It's important to post to both groups at the same time, using the method described by George above.

    --
    Retro Guy

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  • From Retro Guy@21:1/5 to W.Dockery on Sat Oct 19 23:09:27 2024
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, rec.music.dylan

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 20:49:58 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 19:30:50 +0000, Retro Guy wrote:

    On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:39:41 +0000, Jordy wrote:

    On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:45:41 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:

    Are you reading and posting on NovaBBS, Jordy? If so, take a look at the >>>> headers (the 5 lines above the post). The second one, "newsgroups",
    controls where your message gets posted. Notice how they appear, eg.

    alt.arts.poetry.comments,rec.arts.poems

    (name or group written in full in lower case, just a comma (no spaces) >>>> between groups).

    If you're making a new post, the default there will be the group you're >>>> posting from; so you have to write in the other groups there yourself. >>>> You can write in up to 5 groups and I think (though I haven't tested it) >>>> they all have to be groups NovaBBS carries. Otherwise, the message won't >>>> post and you'll get a warning; just edit the line and try posting again, >>>> and it should work.
    Will give it a try, thanks George 🙏

    As an added note, if you post to one group, then post to another group
    the same content, it will not work. You will see the second post on this
    site (novabbs), but it will not propagate across Usenet.

    It's important to post to both groups at the same time, using the method
    described by George above.

    I think it's been working for me.

    What happens if you make the same post separately into another group,
    within a specific period of time, it will appear here just fine, but it
    will not travel to the rest of Usenet.

    This is because my backend Usenet server, i2pn2.org, will block it.

    An example is here:
    From: <someone in aapc>
    Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
    Subject: <the subject>
    Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2024 19:03:01 +0000

    The above post goes fine into rec.arts.poems, but the same article was attempted to be posted into aapc, and it failed. From my logs:

    MULTIPOST DETECTED:
    Sender: <same person in aapc>
    Subject: <the same subject>
    Duplicates: <the message-id of the article above>
    REJECTING: <8c44bdd6ade637c758587e5afda27388@www.novabbs.com>

    The article will appear on novabbs, but it won't go anywhere else.

    --
    Retro Guy

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  • From Retro Guy@21:1/5 to W.Dockery on Sun Oct 20 13:14:37 2024
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, rec.music.dylan

    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 4:54:38 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 19:30:50 +0000, Retro Guy wrote:

    On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:39:41 +0000, Jordy wrote:

    On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:45:41 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:

    Are you reading and posting on NovaBBS, Jordy? If so, take a look at the >>>> headers (the 5 lines above the post). The second one, "newsgroups",
    controls where your message gets posted. Notice how they appear, eg.

    alt.arts.poetry.comments,rec.arts.poems

    (name or group written in full in lower case, just a comma (no spaces) >>>> between groups).

    If you're making a new post, the default there will be the group you're >>>> posting from; so you have to write in the other groups there yourself. >>>> You can write in up to 5 groups and I think (though I haven't tested it) >>>> they all have to be groups NovaBBS carries. Otherwise, the message won't >>>> post and you'll get a warning; just edit the line and try posting again, >>>> and it should work.
    Will give it a try, thanks George 🙏

    As an added note, if you post to one group, then post to another group
    the same content, it will not work. You will see the second post on this
    site (novabbs), but it will not propagate across Usenet.

    It's important to post to both groups at the same time, using the method
    described by George above.

    Okay, interesting facts worth remembering.

    So let me see if I get all this:

    It's okay to legitimately crosspost, but not to double post?

    That is correct. Multiposting is prohibited at my backend server level.

    Current limits in the web interface are maximum 3 groups in a new
    crosspost, and maximun 6 groups in a reply. The backend server will
    reject any article from anywhere that exceeds 6 groups.

    It's really an anti-spam feature, but it also affects the average user
    who chooses multiposting over crossposting.

    One thing you may or may not be aware, but for users using a Newsreader, crossposted articles will automatically be marked read in every group
    they're in once you read one copy. Multiposted articles will not, so you
    end up thinking there is a new article, but you've already read it. It's
    kind of irritating.

    --
    Retro Guy

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  • From George J. Dance@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 20 13:42:58 2024
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, rec.music.dylan

    On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 22:37:26 +0000, cpyle4bob wrote:

    If you look on the very top of the page, in the grey area, it says "mail files register ect", there is also one that says groups, click on that
    and it will show you all the groups supported by this site. hope that
    helps

    That helps a lot, even for people like me who are already cross-posting.
    One can just go down the list, and copy-and-paste the other group(s)
    rather than typing it (them) in, meaning there's no risk of making a
    typo.

    Thanks for the tip.

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  • From George J. Dance@21:1/5 to Retro Guy on Sun Oct 20 13:57:05 2024
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, rec.music.dylan

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 23:09:23 +0000, Retro Guy wrote:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 20:49:58 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 19:30:50 +0000, Retro Guy wrote:

    On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:39:41 +0000, Jordy wrote:

    On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:45:41 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:

    Are you reading and posting on NovaBBS, Jordy? If so, take a look at the >>>>> headers (the 5 lines above the post). The second one, "newsgroups",
    controls where your message gets posted. Notice how they appear, eg. >>>>>
    alt.arts.poetry.comments,rec.arts.poems

    (name of group written in full in lower case, just a comma (no spaces) >>>>> between groups).

    If you're making a new post, the default there will be the group you're >>>>> posting from; so you have to write in the other groups there yourself. >>>>> You can write in up to 5 groups and I think (though I haven't tested it) >>>>> they all have to be groups NovaBBS carries. Otherwise, the message won't >>>>> post and you'll get a warning; just edit the line and try posting again, >>>>> and it should work.
    Will give it a try, thanks George 🙏

    As an added note, if you post to one group, then post to another group
    the same content, it will not work. You will see the second post on this >>> site (novabbs), but it will not propagate across Usenet.

    It's important to post to both groups at the same time, using the method >>> described by George above.

    I think it's been working for me.

    What happens if you make the same post separately into another group,
    within a specific period of time, it will appear here just fine, but it
    will not travel to the rest of Usenet.

    This is because my backend Usenet server, i2pn2.org, will block it.

    An example is here:
    From: <someone in aapc>
    Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
    Subject: <the subject>
    Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2024 19:03:01 +0000

    The above post goes fine into rec.arts.poems, but the same article was attempted to be posted into aapc, and it failed. From my logs:

    MULTIPOST DETECTED:
    Sender: <same person in aapc>
    Subject: <the same subject>
    Duplicates: <the message-id of the article above>
    REJECTING: <8c44bdd6ade637c758587e5afda27388@www.novabbs.com>

    The article will appear on novabbs, but it won't go anywhere else.

    That would've been me. I've been multiposting all my PPB: threads to
    aapc and RAP for years -- first to keep the trolls on RAP off the
    threads on aapc (when RAP was infested) and later to keep the trolls on
    aapc off the threads on RAP (when their trolls moved into aapc). I never
    posted the same pose enough to come near the spam threshold, but I can understand why (because of the threshold) you want to discourage
    multiposting.

    Since most of the trolls seem to have left us when google groups stopped supporting usenet, it looks safe to start crossposting again. So I'll do
    that with today's PPB post.

    Thanks as always for your information.

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  • From %@21:1/5 to George J. Dance on Sun Oct 20 12:46:24 2024
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, rec.music.dylan

    George J. Dance wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 23:09:23 +0000, Retro Guy wrote:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 20:49:58 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

    On Sat, 19 Oct 2024 19:30:50 +0000, Retro Guy wrote:

    On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:39:41 +0000, Jordy wrote:

    On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:45:41 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:

    Are you reading and posting on NovaBBS, Jordy? If so, take a look
    at the
    headers (the 5 lines above the post). The second one, "newsgroups", >>>>>> controls where your message gets posted. Notice how they appear, eg. >>>>>>
    alt.arts.poetry.comments,rec.arts.poems

    (name of group written in full in lower case, just a comma (no
    spaces)
    between groups).

    If you're making a new post, the default there will be the group
    you're
    posting from; so you have to write in the other groups there
    yourself.
    You can write in up to 5 groups and I think (though I haven't
    tested it)
    they all have to be groups NovaBBS carries. Otherwise, the message >>>>>> won't
    post and you'll get a warning; just edit the line and try posting
    again,
    and it should work.
           Will give it a try, thanks George 🙏

    As an added note, if you post to one group, then post to another group >>>> the same content, it will not work. You will see the second post on
    this
    site (novabbs), but it will not propagate across Usenet.

    It's important to post to both groups at the same time, using the
    method
    described by George above.

    I think it's been working for me.

    What happens if you make the same post separately into another group,
    within a specific period of time, it will appear here just fine, but it
    will not travel to the rest of Usenet.

    This is because my backend Usenet server, i2pn2.org, will block it.

    An example is here:
    From: <someone in aapc>
    Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
    Subject: <the subject>
    Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2024 19:03:01 +0000

    The above post goes fine into rec.arts.poems, but the same article was
    attempted to be posted into aapc, and it failed. From my logs:

    MULTIPOST DETECTED:
        Sender: <same person in aapc>
        Subject: <the same subject>
        Duplicates: <the message-id of the article above>
        REJECTING: <8c44bdd6ade637c758587e5afda27388@www.novabbs.com>

    The article will appear on novabbs, but it won't go anywhere else.

    That would've been me. I've been multiposting all my PPB: threads to
    aapc and RAP for years -- first to keep the trolls on RAP off the
    threads on aapc (when RAP was infested) and later to keep the trolls on
    aapc off the threads on RAP (when their trolls moved into aapc). I never posted the same pose enough to come near the spam threshold, but I can understand why (because of the threshold) you want to discourage multiposting.

    Since most of the trolls seem to have left us when google groups stopped supporting usenet, it looks safe to start crossposting again. So I'll do
    that with today's PPB post.

    Thanks as always for your information.


    http://tinyurl.com/peescent

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