• Re: Usenet newsgroups portals

    From Retro Guy@21:1/5 to W.Dockery on Fri Dec 20 16:43:18 2024
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, rec.music.dylan

    On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 13:48:54 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

    Another good Usenet newsgroups portal is JLA Forums:

    http://www.jlaforums.com/viewforum.php?f=655

    I just wish they would fix their line wrap in quoting, which sometimes
    produces broken quote lines, and that they would produce proper
    references headers so that threading worked properly for those using a newsreader.

    Usually, everything shows as a reply to the first article in the thread,
    not the actual article being replied to, so no threading in newsreaders.

    --
    Retro Guy

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  • From HarryLime@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 20 17:04:16 2024
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, rec.music.dylan

    Hi Retro Guy. Would it be possible for NovaBBS to "quote" the post that
    we're responding to in the Message reply box? Lacking the quoted text,
    it's difficult to address multiple questions raised in some of the
    longer posts.

    --

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  • From George J. Dance@21:1/5 to HarryLime on Fri Dec 20 17:16:08 2024
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, rec.music.dylan

    On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 17:04:11 +0000, HarryLime wrote:

    Hi Retro Guy. Would it be possible for NovaBBS to "quote" the post that we're responding to in the Message reply box?

    Lacking the quoted text,
    it's difficult to address multiple questions raised in some of the
    longer posts.

    Yes, Harry Michael. It would be possible and it is possible. If you
    want to know how, ask nicely - don't blame RetroGuy for your own
    ignorance.

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  • From Retro Guy@21:1/5 to HarryLime on Fri Dec 20 17:23:41 2024
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, rec.music.dylan

    On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 17:04:11 +0000, HarryLime wrote:

    Hi Retro Guy. Would it be possible for NovaBBS to "quote" the post that we're responding to in the Message reply box? Lacking the quoted text,
    it's difficult to address multiple questions raised in some of the
    longer posts.

    Hi, I'm doing exactly that right now.

    Once you click on 'Reply', there should be a 'Quote' button at the
    bottom of the message window where you type. The only reason I can see
    that it may not be there is if you have javascript disabled.

    Please let me know if it's not working properly as described.

    --
    Retro Guy

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  • From HarryLime@21:1/5 to Retro Guy on Fri Dec 20 18:07:05 2024
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, rec.music.dylan

    On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 17:23:37 +0000, Retro Guy wrote:

    On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 17:04:11 +0000, HarryLime wrote:

    Hi Retro Guy. Would it be possible for NovaBBS to "quote" the post that
    we're responding to in the Message reply box? Lacking the quoted text,
    it's difficult to address multiple questions raised in some of the
    longer posts.

    Hi, I'm doing exactly that right now.

    Once you click on 'Reply', there should be a 'Quote' button at the
    bottom of the message window where you type. The only reason I can see
    that it may not be there is if you have javascript disabled.

    Please let me know if it's not working properly as described.

    Thanks, Retro Guy!

    --

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  • From George J. Dance@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 20 18:09:56 2024
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, rec.music.dylan

    I tried posting on JLA, and ran into that problem in my first post. I
    decided to not use them for another reason - they won't post usenet
    messages with web links (other than to JLA, of course) - but seeing how
    they butcher threads gave me another reason to avoid them.

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  • From Ted@21:1/5 to George J. Dance on Sun Dec 22 09:26:31 2024
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, rec.music.dylan

    George J. Dance wrote:
    I tried posting on JLA, and ran into that problem in my first post. I
    decided to not use them for another reason - they won't post usenet
    messages with web links (other than to JLA, of course) - but seeing how
    they butcher threads gave me another reason to avoid them.


    Ask for a refund.

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  • From Ted@21:1/5 to HarryLime on Sun Dec 22 09:25:33 2024
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, rec.music.dylan

    HarryLime wrote:
    Hi Retro Guy.Β  Would it be possible for NovaBBS to "quote" the post that we're responding to in the Message reply box?Β  Lacking the quoted text,
    it's difficult to address multiple questions raised in some of the
    longer posts.


    https://piv.pivpiv.dk/

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  • From Retro Guy@21:1/5 to W.Dockery on Sun Jan 5 13:50:39 2025
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, rec.music.dylan

    On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 13:09:15 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

    On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 16:43:13 +0000, Retro Guy wrote:

    On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 13:48:54 +0000, Will Dockery wrote:

    Another good Usenet newsgroups portal is JLA Forums:

    http://www.jlaforums.com/viewforum.php?f=655

    I just wish they would fix their line wrap in quoting, which sometimes
    produces broken quote lines, and that they would produce proper
    references headers so that threading worked properly for those using a
    newsreader.

    Usually, everything shows as a reply to the first article in the thread,
    not the actual article being replied to, so no threading in newsreaders.

    How's it looking, Retro Guy?

    I'm not very well versed in these matters so I can't judge properly.

    This reply that you just made looks fine, but I think you wrote this
    from novaBBS.

    If you scroll up in this thread to posts from Will-Dockery, you will see
    lines like:

    LOL!

    Sorry, I typed and posted this during a Christmas party
    yesterday, and
    the typo slipped in.

    Consider it hereby corrected:

    Where 'yesterday, and' is wrapped to a new line without quoting. It
    breaks the quoting.

    Another above:

    I just wish they would fix their line wrap in quoting, which
    sometimes
    produces broken quote lines, and that they would produce proper
    references headers so that threading worked properly for those
    using a
    newsreader.

    Usually, everything shows as a reply to the first article in the
    thread,
    not the actual article being replied to, so no threading in
    newsreaders.


    where a bunch of lines have the same issue.

    Jlaforum wraps the lines, but does not maintain the quote level, so they
    look a mess in a newsreader (and novaBBS). Then when someone quotes that
    in a newsreader, it looks like a bunch of lines are written by a
    previous poster, not the person who actually quoted them. It's a mess.

    It seems Jlaforum using web forum software that does not understand
    quoting properly for Usenet. Sometimes I see stuff like, '[quote]' or '[/quote]' which is completely useless outside of the web forum
    software, and looks a mess in a newsreader.

    Basically, Jlaforum does not maintain Usenet quoting standards, and also
    does not seem to maintain Usenet 'References: ' headers properly, which
    results in replies looking like they are to a different post than the
    really are. So a newsreader can only go by this and it breaks threading
    in a newsreader.

    Plus, the dates are wrong, or at least they are not accurate, as they
    are the date/time when the post was sent to giganews, not the date/time
    when the user posted it. So when Jlaforum dumps their posts to giganews,
    all the posts each dump get the same timestamp.

    Not great for Usenet groups, but the software they use isn't made for
    Usenet groups.

    --
    Retro Guy

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  • From Jack Sovalot@21:1/5 to W.Dockery on Sun Jan 5 11:55:55 2025
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, rec.music.dylan

    W.Dockery wrote:
    On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 13:50:39 +0000, Retro Guy wrote:

    On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 13:09:15 +0000, Will Dockery wrote:

    On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 16:43:13 +0000, Retro Guy wrote:

    On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 13:48:54 +0000, Will Dockery wrote:

    Another good Usenet newsgroups portal is JLA Forums:

    http://www.jlaforums.com/viewforum.php?f=655

    I just wish they would fix their line wrap in quoting, which sometimes >>>> produces broken quote lines, and that they would produce proper
    references headers so that threading worked properly for those using a >>>> newsreader.

    Usually, everything shows as a reply to the first article in the
    thread,
    not the actual article being replied to, so no threading in
    newsreaders.

    How's it looking, Retro Guy?

    I'm not very well versed in these matters so I can't judge properly.

    This reply that you just made looks fine, but I think you wrote this
    from novaBBS.

    If you scroll up in this thread to posts from Will-Dockery, you will see
    lines like:

    LOL!
    ;
    Sorry, I typed and posted this during a Christmas party
    yesterday, and
    the typo slipped in.
    ;
    Consider it hereby corrected:

    Where 'yesterday, and' is wrapped to a new line without quoting. It
    breaks the quoting.

    Another above:

    I just wish they would fix their line wrap in quoting, which
    sometimes
    produces broken quote lines, and that they would produce proper
    references headers so that threading worked properly for those
    using a
    newsreader.
    ;
    Usually, everything shows as a reply to the first article in the
    thread,
    not the actual article being replied to, so no threading in
    newsreaders.
    ;

    where a bunch of lines have the same issue.

    Jlaforum wraps the lines, but does not maintain the quote level, so they
    look a mess in a newsreader (and novaBBS). Then when someone quotes that
    in a newsreader, it looks like a bunch of lines are written by a
    previous poster, not the person who actually quoted them. It's a mess.

    It seems Jlaforum using web forum software that does not understand
    quoting properly for Usenet. Sometimes I see stuff like, '[quote]' or
    '[/quote]' which is completely useless outside of the web forum
    software, and looks a mess in a newsreader.

    Basically, Jlaforum does not maintain Usenet quoting standards, and also
    does not seem to maintain Usenet 'References: ' headers properly, which
    results in replies looking like they are to a different post than the
    really are. So a newsreader can only go by this and it breaks threading
    in a newsreader.

    Plus, the dates are wrong, or at least they are not accurate, as they
    are the date/time when the post was sent to giganews, not the date/time
    when the user posted it. So when Jlaforum dumps their posts to giganews,
    all the posts each dump get the same timestamp.

    Not great for Usenet groups, but the software they use isn't made for
    Usenet groups.

    My biggest problem with JLA Forums is that vast stretches of my posts
    from years such as 2007 and 2008 are not appearing in their archives. I
    just spent a couple of hours going through 2007 there and almost nothing
    I posted that year appears, in fact, dozens or even hundreds of my
    Usenet posts from say 2003 to 2009 are missing from the JLA Forums
    version of this newsgroup.

    There may actually be other posts and posters missing as well, since I
    don't seem to see as much from Dennis M Hammes, J.R. Sherman or even
    Peter j. Ross as if expect to see in the archives so I suspect it isn't
    just my posts that have been deleted.

    It makes reading and posting at JLA Forums and ultimately frustrating experience, as far as going into the past through the archives goes.


    You're whining about a free NSP not providing unnecessary retention for
    you, try a pay service you cheap fuck, some have a huge archive.

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  • From yeti@21:1/5 to W.Dockery on Thu Jan 16 16:53:30 2025
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, rec.music.dylan

    will.dockery@gmail.com (W.Dockery) wrote:

    Another good Usenet newsgroups portal is JLA Forums:

    http://www.jlaforums.com/viewforum.php?f=655


    With captcha and demanding that I disable my browser security.

    Not for me then!

    --
    Trust me, I know what I'm doing...

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rudy Canoza on Thu Jan 16 10:42:39 2025
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments

    Rudy Canoza wrote:
    Will-Dockery wrote:
    I can say that in the past couple of weeks JLA Forums has vastly
    improved.

    This is a redundant spam sig from: http://www.jlaforums.com


    Otherwise you'd ask for a refund, donkey.


    LOL!

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  • From Retro Guy@21:1/5 to W.Dockery on Fri Jan 17 13:15:39 2025
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, rec.music.dylan

    On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 12:35:47 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

    On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 16:43:13 +0000, Retro Guy wrote:

    On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 13:48:54 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

    Another good Usenet newsgroups portal is JLA Forums:

    http://www.jlaforums.com/viewforum.php?f=655

    I just wish they would fix their line wrap in quoting, which sometimes
    produces broken quote lines, and that they would produce proper
    references headers so that threading worked properly for those using a
    newsreader.

    Usually, everything shows as a reply to the first article in the thread,
    not the actual article being replied to, so no threading in newsreaders.

    Hopefully some of these technical issues have been resolved, Retro Guy.
    As far as I can tell with my limited knowledge of such matters it seems improvements have been made.

    When you post from there, I'm not seeing a difference. From this thread,
    note the line wrapping is a mess:

    -----------------
    Retro Guy wrote:


    I just wish they would fix their line wrap in quoting, which
    sometimes
    produces broken quote lines, and that they would produce proper
    references headers so that threading worked properly for those
    using a
    newsreader.

    Usually, everything shows as a reply to the first article in the
    thread,
    not the actual article being replied to, so no threading in
    newsreaders.

    --
    Retro Guy

    I can say that in the past couple of weeks JLA Forums has vastly
    improved.
    ------------------

    I can take a look at the other issues (dates, etc.), but I'm not sure
    anything has changed. The formatting is by far the worst part of it. It
    makes a mess of quoting. The References: header in that message has only
    one reference, so threading will be incorrect.

    --
    Retro Guy

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  • From Retro Guy@21:1/5 to W.Dockery on Fri Jan 17 14:14:22 2025
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, rec.music.dylan

    On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 13:40:58 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

    On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 13:15:39 +0000, Retro Guy wrote:

    On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 12:35:47 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

    On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 16:43:13 +0000, Retro Guy wrote:

    On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 13:48:54 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

    Another good Usenet newsgroups portal is JLA Forums:

    http://www.jlaforums.com/viewforum.php?f=655

    I just wish they would fix their line wrap in quoting, which sometimes >>>> produces broken quote lines, and that they would produce proper
    references headers so that threading worked properly for those using a >>>> newsreader.

    Usually, everything shows as a reply to the first article in the thread, >>>> not the actual article being replied to, so no threading in newsreaders. >>>
    Hopefully some of these technical issues have been resolved, Retro Guy.
    As far as I can tell with my limited knowledge of such matters it seems
    improvements have been made.

    When you post from there, I'm not seeing a difference. From this thread,
    note the line wrapping is a mess:

    -----------------
    Retro Guy wrote:


    I just wish they would fix their line wrap in quoting, which
    sometimes
    produces broken quote lines, and that they would produce proper
    references headers so that threading worked properly for those
    using a
    newsreader.

    Usually, everything shows as a reply to the first article in the
    thread,
    not the actual article being replied to, so no threading in
    newsreaders.

    --
    Retro Guy

    I can say that in the past couple of weeks JLA Forums has vastly
    improved.
    ------------------

    I can take a look at the other issues (dates, etc.), but I'm not sure
    anything has changed. The formatting is by far the worst part of it. It
    makes a mess of quoting. The References: header in that message has only
    one reference, so threading will be incorrect.

    Yes, I'm seeing the line wrapping is happening.

    I'm not sure how the JLA Forums moderator can solve this, but perhaps
    you could offer some tips here, Retro Guy?

    They would need to modify the code of their site to fix this. Since
    their software does not seem to support Usenet articles properly,
    someone would need to rewrite the code to do do so.

    Their site uses 'newsSync' to send the articles to giganews, but it does
    not change the formatting, it just sends a badly formatted article to
    Usenet, including missing References headers.

    Their software is just simply not meant for Usenet, unless they fix it.
    It appears to just be web forum software pretending that Usenet articles
    are part of their site. As long as a user stays there, it's all good,
    but the articles that get sent out do not conform to the network they
    are being sent to (Usenet).

    --
    Retro Guy

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  • From Retro Guy@21:1/5 to W.Dockery on Fri Jan 17 19:43:59 2025
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, rec.music.dylan

    On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 15:13:54 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

    On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 14:14:18 +0000, Retro Guy wrote:

    On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 13:40:58 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

    On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 13:15:39 +0000, Retro Guy wrote:

    On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 12:35:47 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

    On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 16:43:13 +0000, Retro Guy wrote:

    On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 13:48:54 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

    Another good Usenet newsgroups portal is JLA Forums:

    http://www.jlaforums.com/viewforum.php?f=655

    I just wish they would fix their line wrap in quoting, which sometimes >>>>>> produces broken quote lines, and that they would produce proper
    references headers so that threading worked properly for those using a >>>>>> newsreader.

    Usually, everything shows as a reply to the first article in the thread, >>>>>> not the actual article being replied to, so no threading in newsreaders. >>>>>
    Hopefully some of these technical issues have been resolved, Retro Guy. >>>>> As far as I can tell with my limited knowledge of such matters it seems >>>>> improvements have been made.

    When you post from there, I'm not seeing a difference. From this thread, >>>> note the line wrapping is a mess:

    -----------------
    Retro Guy wrote:


    I just wish they would fix their line wrap in quoting, which
    sometimes
    produces broken quote lines, and that they would produce proper
    references headers so that threading worked properly for those
    using a
    newsreader.

    Usually, everything shows as a reply to the first article in the
    thread,
    not the actual article being replied to, so no threading in
    newsreaders.

    --
    Retro Guy

    I can say that in the past couple of weeks JLA Forums has vastly
    improved.
    ------------------

    I can take a look at the other issues (dates, etc.), but I'm not sure
    anything has changed. The formatting is by far the worst part of it. It >>>> makes a mess of quoting. The References: header in that message has only >>>> one reference, so threading will be incorrect.

    Yes, I'm seeing the line wrapping is happening.

    I'm not sure how the JLA Forums moderator can solve this, but perhaps
    you could offer some tips here, Retro Guy?

    They would need to modify the code of their site to fix this. Since
    their software does not seem to support Usenet articles properly,
    someone would need to rewrite the code to do do so.

    Their site uses 'newsSync' to send the articles to giganews, but it does
    not change the formatting, it just sends a badly formatted article to
    Usenet, including missing References headers.

    Their software is just simply not meant for Usenet, unless they fix it.
    It appears to just be web forum software pretending that Usenet articles
    are part of their site. As long as a user stays there, it's all good,
    but the articles that get sent out do not conform to the network they
    are being sent to (Usenet).

    This is a problem Google Groups apparently didn't have, right?

    I don't think this was a problem with the Google Groups version of
    Usenet?

    Google Groups had some formatting issues, but not anywhere near as bad
    as jlaforum. You usually didn't notice it.

    Of course GG was made for Usenet (I assume), and Google can pretty much
    code whatever they want to code. Their interface did work, and the
    articles were mostly Usenet compliant.

    Before I started novaBBS, I tried to modify a web forum software for
    Usenet use (FudForum) but very quickly realized that it was a bad idea.
    I got it working fine, but the articles sent were not well formatted,
    and incoming articles were not handled well. I gave up pretty quickly
    and decided to just write my own. I actually forked an old, out of date
    and didn't work anymore piece of software and modified it, heavily.

    --
    Retro Guy

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  • From Retro Guy@21:1/5 to W.Dockery on Sat Jan 18 10:21:16 2025
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, rec.music.dylan

    On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 22:46:06 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

    On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 19:43:54 +0000, Retro Guy wrote:

    On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 15:13:54 +0000, Will Dockery wrote:

    On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 14:14:18 +0000, Retro Guy wrote:

    On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 13:40:58 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

    On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 13:15:39 +0000, Retro Guy wrote:

    On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 12:35:47 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

    On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 16:43:13 +0000, Retro Guy wrote:

    On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 13:48:54 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

    Another good Usenet newsgroups portal is JLA Forums:

    http://www.jlaforums.com/viewforum.php?f=655

    I just wish they would fix their line wrap in quoting, which sometimes >>>>>>>> produces broken quote lines, and that they would produce proper >>>>>>>> references headers so that threading worked properly for those using a >>>>>>>> newsreader.

    Usually, everything shows as a reply to the first article in the thread,
    not the actual article being replied to, so no threading in newsreaders.

    Hopefully some of these technical issues have been resolved, Retro Guy. >>>>>>> As far as I can tell with my limited knowledge of such matters it seems >>>>>>> improvements have been made.

    When you post from there, I'm not seeing a difference. From this thread, >>>>>> note the line wrapping is a mess:

    -----------------
    Retro Guy wrote:


    I just wish they would fix their line wrap in quoting, which
    sometimes
    produces broken quote lines, and that they would produce proper >>>>>> > references headers so that threading worked properly for those
    using a
    newsreader.

    Usually, everything shows as a reply to the first article in the >>>>>> thread,
    not the actual article being replied to, so no threading in
    newsreaders.

    --
    Retro Guy

    I can say that in the past couple of weeks JLA Forums has vastly
    improved.
    ------------------

    I can take a look at the other issues (dates, etc.), but I'm not sure >>>>>> anything has changed. The formatting is by far the worst part of it. It >>>>>> makes a mess of quoting. The References: header in that message has only >>>>>> one reference, so threading will be incorrect.

    Yes, I'm seeing the line wrapping is happening.

    I'm not sure how the JLA Forums moderator can solve this, but perhaps >>>>> you could offer some tips here, Retro Guy?

    They would need to modify the code of their site to fix this. Since
    their software does not seem to support Usenet articles properly,
    someone would need to rewrite the code to do do so.

    Their site uses 'newsSync' to send the articles to giganews, but it does >>>> not change the formatting, it just sends a badly formatted article to
    Usenet, including missing References headers.

    Their software is just simply not meant for Usenet, unless they fix it. >>>> It appears to just be web forum software pretending that Usenet articles >>>> are part of their site. As long as a user stays there, it's all good,
    but the articles that get sent out do not conform to the network they
    are being sent to (Usenet).

    This is a problem Google Groups apparently didn't have, right?

    I don't think this was a problem with the Google Groups version of
    Usenet?

    Google Groups had some formatting issues, but not anywhere near as bad
    as jlaforum. You usually didn't notice it.

    Of course GG was made for Usenet (I assume), and Google can pretty much
    code whatever they want to code. Their interface did work, and the
    articles were mostly Usenet compliant.

    Before I started novaBBS, I tried to modify a web forum software for
    Usenet use (FudForum) but very quickly realized that it was a bad idea.
    I got it working fine, but the articles sent were not well formatted,
    and incoming articles were not handled well. I gave up pretty quickly
    and decided to just write my own. I actually forked an old, out of date
    and didn't work anymore piece of software and modified it, heavily.

    I'm not an expert, but I feel like Nova BBS does a pretty good job.

    Thank you. I think the whole idea is to at least try. novaBBS has bugs,
    and when someone points one out, and can demonstrate how to duplicate
    it, I try to fix it. Try is the main word here, I may fail :) In fact,
    novaBBS used to have the same quoting issue as jlaforum, until a user
    did some testing and showed me exactly when it would happen. Then, I
    fixed it, after several attempts and with the user providing feedback
    along the way.

    When jlaform reached out to me about novaBBS removing advertising
    injected into posts, we discussed it, and I temporarily removed that
    filter (it's back now). But when I mentioned to the person at jla the
    issuses we have discussed above, then completely ignore every word I
    said about it. (S)He only seemed to care about making sure their
    advertising gets through. Nothing more. <4f83b5b9e5da34fe53f4f6d3e12c6164@www.novabbs.org> https://www.novabbs.com/rocksolid/article-flat.php?id=1911&group=rocksolid.nodes.help#1911

    You can't fix something if you don't seem to have any interest in doing
    so.

    --
    Retro Guy

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  • From Retro Guy@21:1/5 to W.Dockery on Mon Jan 20 11:59:49 2025
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, rec.music.dylan

    On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 9:18:22 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

    On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 10:21:12 +0000, Retro Guy wrote:

    On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 22:46:06 +0000, Will Dockery wrote:
    Retro Guy wrote:
    Will Dockery wrote:
    Retro Guy wrote:
    Will Dockery wrote:

    Another good Usenet newsgroups portal is JLA Forums:

    http://www.jlaforums.com/viewforum.php?f=655

    I just wish they would fix their line wrap in quoting, which sometimes
    produces broken quote lines, and that they would produce proper >>>>>>>>>> references headers so that threading worked properly for those using a
    newsreader.

    Usually, everything shows as a reply to the first article in the thread,
    not the actual article being replied to, so no threading in newsreaders.

    Hopefully some of these technical issues have been resolved, Retro Guy.
    As far as I can tell with my limited knowledge of such matters it seems
    improvements have been made.

    When you post from there, I'm not seeing a difference. From this thread,
    note the line wrapping is a mess:

    -----------------
    Retro Guy wrote:


    I just wish they would fix their line wrap in quoting, which >>>>>>>> sometimes
    produces broken quote lines, and that they would produce proper >>>>>>>> > references headers so that threading worked properly for those >>>>>>>> using a
    newsreader.

    Usually, everything shows as a reply to the first article in the >>>>>>>> thread,
    not the actual article being replied to, so no threading in >>>>>>>> newsreaders.

    --
    Retro Guy

    I can say that in the past couple of weeks JLA Forums has vastly >>>>>>>> improved.
    ------------------

    I can take a look at the other issues (dates, etc.), but I'm not sure >>>>>>>> anything has changed. The formatting is by far the worst part of it. It
    makes a mess of quoting. The References: header in that message has only
    one reference, so threading will be incorrect.

    Yes, I'm seeing the line wrapping is happening.

    I'm not sure how the JLA Forums moderator can solve this, but perhaps >>>>>>> you could offer some tips here, Retro Guy?

    They would need to modify the code of their site to fix this. Since >>>>>> their software does not seem to support Usenet articles properly,
    someone would need to rewrite the code to do do so.

    Their site uses 'newsSync' to send the articles to giganews, but it does >>>>>> not change the formatting, it just sends a badly formatted article to >>>>>> Usenet, including missing References headers.

    Their software is just simply not meant for Usenet, unless they fix it. >>>>>> It appears to just be web forum software pretending that Usenet articles >>>>>> are part of their site. As long as a user stays there, it's all good, >>>>>> but the articles that get sent out do not conform to the network they >>>>>> are being sent to (Usenet).

    This is a problem Google Groups apparently didn't have, right?

    I don't think this was a problem with the Google Groups version of
    Usenet?

    Google Groups had some formatting issues, but not anywhere near as bad >>>> as jlaforum. You usually didn't notice it.

    Of course GG was made for Usenet (I assume), and Google can pretty much >>>> code whatever they want to code. Their interface did work, and the
    articles were mostly Usenet compliant.

    Before I started novaBBS, I tried to modify a web forum software for
    Usenet use (FudForum) but very quickly realized that it was a bad idea. >>>> I got it working fine, but the articles sent were not well formatted,
    and incoming articles were not handled well. I gave up pretty quickly
    and decided to just write my own. I actually forked an old, out of date >>>> and didn't work anymore piece of software and modified it, heavily.

    I'm not an expert, but I feel like Nova BBS does a pretty good job.

    Thank you. I think the whole idea is to at least try. novaBBS has bugs,
    and when someone points one out, and can demonstrate how to duplicate
    it, I try to fix it. Try is the main word here, I may fail :) In fact,
    novaBBS used to have the same quoting issue as jlaforum, until a user
    did some testing and showed me exactly when it would happen. Then, I
    fixed it, after several attempts and with the user providing feedback
    along the way.

    When jlaform reached out to me about novaBBS removing advertising
    injected into posts, we discussed it, and I temporarily removed that
    filter (it's back now). But when I mentioned to the person at jla the
    issuses we have discussed above, then completely ignore every word I
    said about it. (S)He only seemed to care about making sure their
    advertising gets through. Nothing more.
    <4f83b5b9e5da34fe53f4f6d3e12c6164@www.novabbs.org>
    https://www.novabbs.com/rocksolid/article-flat.php?id=1911&group=rocksolid.nodes.help#1911

    You can't fix something if you don't seem to have any interest in doing
    so.

    I understand, there seems to be a definite communication gap here
    between you at Nova BBS and the moderator at JLA Forums.

    Hopefully you can get these problems worked out in the coming days.

    It's really no problem for me. I'm just commenting on their site's
    issues, but it's their site and they can do as they wish.

    The only thing I've done is remove their inserted advertising, and place
    a note at the top of articles that may be malformatted. Other than that,
    I never think about them at all.

    --
    Retro Guy

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  • From Will Dockery@21:1/5 to The same bullshit PJR has on Sat Jun 28 14:25:38 2025
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments

    kfries@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (CujoDeSockpuppet) posted:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    Cujo DeSockpuppet <cujo> posted:
    Will Dockery <user3274> wrote in
    news:1751072183-3274@newsgrouper.org:

    kfries@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (CujoDeSockpuppet) posted:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    CujoDeSockpuppet wrote:
    Will Dockery wrote:

    Harry Lime has been posting on Usenet newsgroups for 20
    years but still doesn't understand how they work.

    I know how to use Usenet newsgroups which is the
    point of this discussion.

    HTH and HAND.

    can't produce message-IDs for decades

    Not really, I just never have seen a reason to bother.

    HTH and HAND.

    PJR called you a thieving liar

    The same bullshit PJR has said about me and others for twenty years.

    That was a standard troll line of PJR, already disproven a dozen
    times, which he'd use to deflect the conversation.

    Usually it was his lies about the theft of MY poem "Karma Bombs."

    Debate that with PJR, nitwit. If he says you did it

    PJR isn't that stupid, he just knew that every time he posted that lie, I'd have to correct him.

    Finally I decided to stop arguing with him about it every time.

    And so it goes.

    From who keeps obsessively following up over a posts about you picking your nose, you sure gave up easy on something of consequence

    I wouldn't call it "easy."

    The argument began in 2003. I've proven that I'm correct over and over and can do it again over and over but everyone here should already know the "Karma Bombs" story.

    I suppose next time PJR returns we can go over the same Karma Bombs flame war one more time, we've only been going over it for 22 yesrs, now

    We'll see.

    πŸ™‚

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  • From Will Dockery@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 28 14:49:54 2025
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments

    kfries@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (CujoDeSockpuppet) posted:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    kfries@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (CujoDeSockpuppet) posted:


    Will Dockery wrote:
    CujoDeSockpuppet wrot
    Will Dockery wrote:
    Miguel Sucio wrote:
    Will Dockery wrote:
    George J. Dance wrote:
    HarryLime wrote:

    Hi Retro Guy. Would it be possible for NovaBBS to "quote" the post that >> we're responding to in the Message reply box?

    Lacking the quoted text,
    it's difficult to address multiple questions raised in some of the
    longer posts.

    Yes, Harry Michael. It would be possible and it is possible. If you
    want to know how, ask nicely - don't blame RetroGuy for your own
    ignorance.

    Harry Lime has been posting on Usenet newsgroups for 20 years but still
    doesn't understand how they work.

    Funny, coming from someone so technically challenged

    Either way, I know how to use Usenet newsgroups which is the point of
    this discussion.

    HTH and HAND.

    can't produce message-IDs for decades

    Not really, I just never have seen a reason to bother.

    HTH and HAND.

    PJR called you a thieving liar

    PJR hss called a lot of people that.

    He's never had any proof for these false accusations and I've stopped arguing with him everytime he posts that obvious lie.

    But you agreed

    No, I didn't agree, I stopped responding to his face accusations.

    HTH and HAND.

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  • From Cujo DeSockpuppet@21:1/5 to Will Dockery on Sat Jun 28 15:23:31 2025
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments

    Will Dockery <user3274@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote in news:1751122194-3274@newsgrouper.org:


    kfries@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (CujoDeSockpuppet) posted:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    kfries@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (CujoDeSockpuppet) posted:


    Will Dockery wrote:
    CujoDeSockpuppet wrot
    Will Dockery wrote:
    Miguel Sucio wrote:
    Will Dockery wrote:
    George J. Dance wrote:
    HarryLime wrote:

    Hi Retro Guy. Would it be possible for NovaBBS to "quote" the
    post that we're responding to in the Message reply box?

    Lacking the quoted text,
    it's difficult to address multiple questions raised in some of the
    longer posts.

    Yes, Harry Michael. It would be possible and it is possible. If
    you want to know how, ask nicely - don't blame RetroGuy for your
    own ignorance.

    Harry Lime has been posting on Usenet newsgroups for 20 years but
    still doesn't understand how they work.

    Funny, coming from someone so technically challenged

    Either way, I know how to use Usenet newsgroups which is the point
    of this discussion.

    HTH and HAND.

    can't produce message-IDs for decades

    Not really, I just never have seen a reason to bother.

    HTH and HAND.

    PJR called you a thieving liar

    PJR hss called a lot of people that.

    He's never had any proof for these false accusations and I've
    stopped arguing with him everytime he posts that obvious lie.

    But you agreed that you were a theiving liar to kiss his ass,
    Douchebag.

    "Good call" - Dreckweasel agrees he's a thieving liar!

    No, I didn't agree, I stopped responding to his face accusations.

    I didn't know about PHJR accusing your face. Message-ID?

    What did he accuse your face of doing?


    --
    "Post-editing someone's statement before replying to it is a sure sign
    that you have already lost the argument." - Little Willie Douchebag gets another asskicking from Pendragon.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Will Dockery@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 28 15:58:55 2025
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments

    Cujo DeSockpuppet <cujo@petitmorte.net> posted:

    Will Dockery <user3274@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote in news:1751122194-3274@newsgrouper.org:
    kfries@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (CujoDeSockpuppet) posted:
    Will Dockery wrote:
    kfries@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (CujoDeSockpuppet) posted:

    PJR called you a thieving liar

    PJR hss called a lot of people that.

    He's never had any proof for these false accusations and I've
    stopped arguing with him everytime he posts that obvious lie.

    ^^^

    But you agreed

    No, I didn't agree, I stopped responding to his false accusations.

    I didn't know about PHJR accusing your face. Message-ID?

    What did he accuse your face of doing?

    That was a typo, now corrected.

    It should have been "PJR's false accusations."

    πŸ™‚

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  • From Will Dockery@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 28 16:21:02 2025
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments

    kfries@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (CujoDeSockpuppet) posted:
    Will Dockery wrote:
    CujoDeSockpuppet wrote:
    Will Dockery wrote:

    PJR called you a thieving liar

    The same Bullsh*t PJR has said about me and others for twenty years.

    That was a standard troll line of PJR, already disproven a dozen
    times, which he'd use to deflect the conversation.

    Usually it was his lies about the theft of MY poem "Karma Bombs."

    Debate that with PJR, nitwit. If he says you did it

    PJR isn't that stupid, he just knew that every time he posted that
    lie, I'd have to correct him.

    Finally I decided to stop arguing with him about it every time.

    And so it goes.

    The argument began in 2003. I've proven that I'm correct over and
    over and can do it again over and over but everyone here should
    already know the "Karma Bombs" story.

    I suppose next time PJR returns we can go over the same Karma Bombs
    flame war one more time, we've only been going over it for 22 years,
    now

    We'll see.

    I chose not to respond to his trolling me about it.

    Over the past 22 years the story of how Michael Cook stole the Karma
    Bombs poem from me has been retold many times.

    I'm surprised you claim to not know about it

    I do know about it

    Great, then you should know I didn't steal my own poem from Cook, as PJR kept trolling me about.

    πŸ™‚

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  • From Will Dockery@21:1/5 to NancyGene on Sat Jun 28 17:20:11 2025
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 11:58:26 +0000, NancyGene wrote:

    CujoDeSockpuppet wrote:
    Will Dockery wrote:
    CujoDeSockpuppet wrote:

    PJR called you a thieving liar

    I stopped responding to his false accusation.

    That was a standard troll line of PJR, already disproven a dozen
    times, which he'd use to deflect the conversation.

    Usually it was his lies about the theft of MY poem "Karma Bombs."

    Debate that with PJR

    PJR isn't that stupid, he just knew that every time he posted that lie,
    I'd have to correct him.

    Finally I decided to stop arguing with him about it every time.

    And so it goes.

    is afraid of PHJR

    Of course you're the one who hides when PJR returns, NancyGene, not me.

    πŸ˜‰

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  • From Will Dockery@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 29 17:54:04 2025
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.poetry

    % <pursent100@gmail.com> posted:

    W.Dockery wrote:
    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 16:26:44 +0000, % wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 18:54:16 +0000, NancyGene wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 11:58:26 +0000, NancyGene wrote:
    CujoDeSockpuppet wrote:
    Will Dockery wrote:
    CujoDeSockpuppet wrote:

    PJR called you

    I stopped responding to his false accusation.

    That was a standard troll line of PJR, already disproven a dozen >>>>>> times, which he'd use to deflect the conversation.

    Usually it was his lies about the theft of MY poem "Karma Bombs." >>>>>>
    Debate that with PJR

    PJR isn't that stupid, he just knew that every time he posted that >>>>>> lie,
    I'd have to correct him.

    Finally I decided to stop arguing with him about it every time.

    And so it goes.

    is afraid of PHJR

    Of course you're the one who hides when PJR returns, NancyGene, not >>>>> me.

    That right there is a lie

    I don't think so.

    You've always avoided PJR because he has you pegged as an obsessive
    stalker troll from the start.

    HTH and HAND.

    is he saying pjr is nancy gene

    I never thought about that but I'm thinking probably not.

    NancyGene came to the poetry newsgroups stalking Stephan Pickering, who came from the Bob Dylan newsgroup.

    After Stephan Pickering passed away NG stayed and teamed up with Michael Pendragon, Jim Senetto and other malicious trolls, who mainly just vandalized the group with flaming and other malicious attacks.

    Even PJR seems to think NancyGene is creepy.

    And so it goes.

    well , she is

    Interesting the way NancyGene's malicious stalking is supported here by Michael Pendragon aka Harry Lime and his ilk

    A good old fashioned double standard.

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  • From Will Dockery@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 29 18:39:33 2025
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.poetry

    % <pursent100@gmail.com> posted:

    NancyGene wrote:
    Will Dockery wrote:
    CujoDeSockpuppet wrote:
    Will Dockery wrote:
    kfries@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (CujoDeSockpuppet) posted:
    Will Dockery wrote:

    Harry Lime has been posting on Usenet newsgroups for 20 years but
    still
    doesn't understand how they work.

    I know how to use Usenet newsgroups which is the point of
    this discussion.

    HTH and HAND.

    can't produce message-IDs for decades

    Not really, I just never have seen a reason to bother.

    I've never seen a reason to bother.

    HTH and HAND.

    Right, so when you make claims and are asked for evidence you don't >>>>> have

    If I make claims I'll look for evidence and usually find it.

    For example, the questions about Ahmos Zu-Bolton, all answered with
    evidence.

    The Everly Brothers questions also all answered with evidence.

    To give two examples.

    The evidence I provided in the abyss two cases proved my
    point both times.

    We are not going to descend into the abyss to see your "evidence."

    --
    who's , " we "

    Again, NancyGene pretending to be two people.

    πŸ™‚

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  • From George J. Dance@21:1/5 to W.Dockery on Sun Jun 29 20:16:29 2025
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, rec.music.dylan

    On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 14:13:23 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

    On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 18:09:52 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:

    I tried posting on JLA, and ran into that problem in my first post. I
    decided to not use them for another reason - they won't post usenet
    messages with web links (other than to JLA, of course) - but seeing how
    they butcher threads gave me another reason to avoid them.

    There are large gaps in the archives of JLA Forums also, unfortunately.

    I found this out when making a post by post search through various
    years, 2004-2008 and so on, and found many of my threads are missing.

    I think that's due to weblinks in the posts. I'm happy with what they're
    doing for PPB now, but that's something they set up later; I'm sure the
    bulk of PPB posts from the past just aren't there. And other posts with
    links (like the Dancehall) still don't appear.

    If it's any consolation, I think it's worked out worse for Team Monkey.
    They're hunkered down on JLA Forums, where they can't promote their own
    thing; and (since they can and do keep attaching binaries) most of what
    they do post doesn't get out onto usenet.

    I know it's different for you, because you and some nice people (like
    MC) want to revitalize JLA Forums; but for me it's the closest thing
    I've seen to my formula for usenet peace: the Monkey Cage, with them
    staying in and us staying out. That failed with the AYOS threads on
    google - we stayed out, but they wouldn't stay in - and only worked with
    their facebook group until they learned how to get back on here - but
    this time, thanks to JLA's approach to technology, it seems to be
    working better than ever before.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Will Dockery@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 30 18:21:47 2025
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments

    kfries@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (CujoDeSockpuppet) posted:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    kfries@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (CujoDeSockpuppet) posted:

    Will
    fears words

    Thus from Cujo, who is either afraid or ashamed to post his alleged poetry on the newsgroup, he's even afraid to give a title or post a link to any poetry he claims he's written.

    Knowing his jeering ilk, though, that's absolutely no surprise.

    he retreats into a fantasy that something doesn’t exist

    No, if you're that ashamed of your poetry, let it stay buried.

    I told you that PHJR criticized it.

    When?

    PJR was gone for about two years until he briefly reappeared last week.

    I'm not going to hunt for an alleged poems from over two years ago.

    If you're scared to post poetry, just admit you're scared.

    πŸ™‚

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  • From Cujo DeSockpuppet@21:1/5 to W.Dockery on Mon Jun 30 23:19:16 2025
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.poetry

    will.dockery@gmail.com (W.Dockery) wrote in news:a62da32ab049922ab605a69c4b5758e6@www.novabbs.com:

    confused,
    need
    correcting.

    PS: The SnipKu Douchebag Slapper strikes again!

    --
    "Post-editing someone's statement before replying to it is a sure sign that
    you have already lost the argument." - Little Willie Douchebag, AKA "The douchebag's douchebag", gets yet another asskicking from Pendragon.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Will Dockery@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 1 02:04:13 2025
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.poetry

    nancygene.andjayme@gmail.com (NancyGene) posted:

    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 12:40:02 +0000, Will Dockery wrote:
    NancyGene wrote:
    Will Dockery wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 11:58:26 +0000, NancyGene wrote:

    CujoDeSockpuppet wrote:
    Will Dockery wrote:

    I stopped responding to his false accusation.

    That was a standard troll line of PJR, already disproven a dozen
    times, which he'd use to deflect the conversation.

    Usually it was his lies about the theft of MY poem "Karma Bombs."

    Debate that with PJR

    PJR isn't that stupid, he just knew that every time he posted that lie, >>>> I'd have to correct him.

    Finally I decided to stop arguing with him about it every time.

    And so it goes.

    is afraid of PHJR

    NancyGene is most likely the person afraid of PJR.

    Of course you're the one who hides when PJR returns, NancyGene, not me.

    That right there is a lie,

    You vanish when PJR shows up, stop lying about it.

    No, it's my observation.

    Next time PJR shows up, let's see what you do.

    PHJR is

    His name is Peter J Ross, no "H"

    This is a response to the post seen at: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=680754858#680754858

    Your (Will) observation is wrong.

    I didn't expect you to admit it.

    Why would we address PHJR if
    he has us blocked? Unlike you, we don't need to comment in every
    thread. We are also not the unofficial greeter that you seem to want to
    be for any unknowns who happen to show up on AAPC, usually cross-posted.

    --

    Peter J Ross is far from an unknown on this newsgroup.

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  • From Will Dockery@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 1 07:45:41 2025
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.poetry

    % <pursent100@gmail.com> posted:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 16:26:44 +0000, % wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 18:54:16 +0000, NancyGene wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 11:58:26 +0000, NancyGene wrote:
    CujoDeSockpuppet wrote:
    Will Dockery wrote:

    I stopped responding to his false accusation.

    That was a standard troll line of PJR, already disproven a dozen >>>>>> times, which he'd use to deflect the conversation.

    Usually it was his lies about the theft of MY poem "Karma Bombs." >>>>>>
    Debate that with PJR

    PJR isn't that stupid, he just knew that every time he posted that >>>>>> lie,
    I'd have to correct him.

    Finally I decided to stop arguing with him about it every time.

    And so it goes.

    is afraid of PHJR

    Of course you're the one who hides when PJR returns, NancyGene, not >>>>> me.

    That right there is a lie

    I don't think so.

    You've always avoided PJR because he has you pegged as an obsessive
    stalker troll from the start.

    HTH and HAND.

    is he saying pjr is nancy gene

    I never thought about that but I'm thinking probably not.

    NancyGene came to the poetry newsgroups stalking Stephan Pickering, who came from the Bob Dylan newsgroup.

    After Stephan Pickering passed away NG stayed and teamed up with Michael Pendragon, Jim Senetto and other malicious trolls, who mainly just vandalized the group with flaming and other malicious attacks.

    Even PJR seems to think NancyGene is creepy.

    And so it goes.

    well , she is

    Yes, NancyGene's malicious stalking has driven several poets away from the newsgroup over the past few years.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Will Dockery@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 1 12:43:32 2025
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.poetry

    Cujo DeSockpuppet <cujo@petitmorte.net> posted:

    will.dockery@gmail.com (W.Dockery) wrote in news:a62da32ab049922ab605a69c4b5758e6@www.novabbs.com:

    confused,
    need
    correcting.

    PS: The SnipKu

    Post-editing noted.

    Hypocritical much, Cujo?

    πŸ™‚

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  • From Will Dockery@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 2 13:27:08 2025
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    % <pursent100@gmail.com> posted:

    W.Dockery wrote:
    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 16:26:44 +0000, % wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 18:54:16 +0000, NancyGene wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 11:58:26 +0000, NancyGene wrote:
    CujoDeSockpuppet wrote:
    Will Dockery wrote:
    CujoDeSockpuppet wrote:

    PJR called you

    I stopped responding to his false accusation.

    That was a standard troll line of PJR, already disproven a dozen >>>>>> times, which he'd use to deflect the conversation.

    Usually it was his lies about the theft of MY poem "Karma Bombs." >>>>>>
    Debate that with PJR

    PJR isn't that stupid, he just knew that every time he posted that >>>>>> lie,
    I'd have to correct him.

    Finally I decided to stop arguing with him about it every time.

    And so it goes.

    is afraid of PHJR

    Of course you're the one who hides when PJR returns, NancyGene, not >>>>> me.

    That right there is a lie

    I don't think so.

    You've always avoided PJR because he has you pegged as an obsessive
    stalker troll from the start.

    HTH and HAND.

    is he saying pjr is nancy gene

    I never thought about that but I'm thinking probably not.

    NancyGene came to the poetry newsgroups stalking Stephan Pickering, who came from the Bob Dylan newsgroup.

    After Stephan Pickering passed away NG stayed and teamed up with Michael Pendragon, Jim Senetto and other malicious trolls, who mainly just vandalized the group with flaming and other malicious attacks.

    Even PJR seems to think NancyGene is creepy.

    And so it goes.

    well , she is

    Stalker trolls can get that way

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  • From Will Dockery@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 2 14:13:46 2025
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    % <pursent100@gmail.com> posted:

    Will Dockery wrote:

    % <pursent100@gmail.com> posted:

    W.Dockery wrote:
    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 16:26:44 +0000, % wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 18:54:16 +0000, NancyGene wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 11:58:26 +0000, NancyGene wrote:
    CujoDeSockpuppet wrote:
    Will Dockery wrote:
    CujoDeSockpuppet wrote:

    PJR called you

    I stopped responding to his false accusation.

    That was a standard troll line of PJR, already disproven a dozen >>>>>>>> times, which he'd use to deflect the conversation.

    Usually it was his lies about the theft of MY poem "Karma Bombs." >>>>>>>>
    Debate that with PJR

    PJR isn't that stupid, he just knew that every time he posted that >>>>>>>> lie,
    I'd have to correct him.

    Finally I decided to stop arguing with him about it every time. >>>>>>>>
    And so it goes.

    is afraid of PHJR

    Of course you're the one who hides when PJR returns, NancyGene, not >>>>>>> me.

    That right there is a lie

    I don't think so.

    You've always avoided PJR because he has you pegged as an obsessive >>>>> stalker troll from the start.

    HTH and HAND.

    is he saying pjr is nancy gene

    I never thought about that but I'm thinking probably not.

    NancyGene came to the poetry newsgroups stalking Stephan Pickering, who >>> came from the Bob Dylan newsgroup.

    After Stephan Pickering passed away NG stayed and teamed up with Michael >>> Pendragon, Jim Senetto and other malicious trolls, who mainly just
    vandalized the group with flaming and other malicious attacks.

    Even PJR seems to think NancyGene is creepy.

    And so it goes.

    well , she is

    Stalker trolls can get that way

    she's lonely and she wants you

    She sure has an odd way of showing it.

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  • From Will Dockery@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 2 17:23:38 2025
    XPost: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.poetry

    % <pursent100@gmail.com> posted:

    Will Dockery wrote:

    % <pursent100@gmail.com> posted:

    Will Dockery wrote:

    % <pursent100@gmail.com> posted:

    W.Dockery wrote:
    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 16:26:44 +0000, % wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 18:54:16 +0000, NancyGene wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 11:58:26 +0000, NancyGene wrote:
    CujoDeSockpuppet wrote:
    Will Dockery wrote:
    CujoDeSockpuppet wrote:

    PJR called you

    I stopped responding to his false accusation.

    That was a standard troll line of PJR, already disproven a dozen >>>>>>>>>> times, which he'd use to deflect the conversation.

    Usually it was his lies about the theft of MY poem "Karma Bombs." >>>>>>>>>>
    Debate that with PJR

    PJR isn't that stupid, he just knew that every time he posted that >>>>>>>>>> lie,
    I'd have to correct him.

    Finally I decided to stop arguing with him about it every time. >>>>>>>>>>
    And so it goes.

    is afraid of PHJR

    Of course you're the one who hides when PJR returns, NancyGene, not >>>>>>>>> me.

    That right there is a lie

    I don't think so.

    You've always avoided PJR because he has you pegged as an obsessive >>>>>>> stalker troll from the start.

    HTH and HAND.

    is he saying pjr is nancy gene

    I never thought about that but I'm thinking probably not.

    NancyGene came to the poetry newsgroups stalking Stephan Pickering, who >>>>> came from the Bob Dylan newsgroup.

    After Stephan Pickering passed away NG stayed and teamed up with Michael
    Pendragon, Jim Senetto and other malicious trolls, who mainly just >>>>> vandalized the group with flaming and other malicious attacks.

    Even PJR seems to think NancyGene is creepy.

    And so it goes.

    well , she is

    Stalker trolls can get that way

    she's lonely and she wants you

    She sure has an odd way of showing it.

    but look how well it works in getting your attention

    Definitely does that

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  • From Will Dockery@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 2 17:33:05 2025
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    % <pursent100@gmail.com> posted:

    Will Dockery wrote:

    % <pursent100@gmail.com> posted:

    W.Dockery wrote:
    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 16:26:44 +0000, % wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 18:54:16 +0000, NancyGene wrote:

    Will Dockery wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 11:58:26 +0000, NancyGene wrote:
    CujoDeSockpuppet wrote:
    Will Dockery wrote:
    CujoDeSockpuppet wrote:

    PJR called you

    I stopped responding to his false accusation.

    That was a standard troll line of PJR, already disproven a dozen >>>>>>>> times, which he'd use to deflect the conversation.

    Usually it was his lies about the theft of MY poem "Karma Bombs." >>>>>>>>
    Debate that with PJR

    PJR isn't that stupid, he just knew that every time he posted that >>>>>>>> lie,
    I'd have to correct him.

    Finally I decided to stop arguing with him about it every time. >>>>>>>>
    And so it goes.

    is afraid of PHJR

    Of course you're the one who hides when PJR returns, NancyGene, not >>>>>>> me.

    That right there is a lie

    I don't think so.

    You've always avoided PJR because he has you pegged as an obsessive >>>>> stalker troll from the start.

    HTH and HAND.

    is he saying pjr is nancy gene

    I never thought about that but I'm thinking probably not.

    NancyGene came to the poetry newsgroups stalking Stephan Pickering, who >>> came from the Bob Dylan newsgroup.

    After Stephan Pickering passed away NG stayed and teamed up with Michael >>> Pendragon, Jim Senetto and other malicious trolls, who mainly just
    vandalized the group with flaming and other malicious attacks.

    Even PJR seems to think NancyGene is creepy.

    And so it goes.

    well , she is

    Stalker trolls can get that way

    she's lonely and she wants you

    NancyGene?

    Sounds unlikely.

    πŸ™‚

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