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On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 14:32:14 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:
Reposted for context:
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On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 12:01:28 +0000, NancyGene wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 6:33:52 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:
"The Collected Poems of Robert Creeley 1945 - 1975"
https://www.imghippo.com/i/gJIH8498pOk.jpg - Title page
https://www.imghippo.com/i/QhcG5616is.jpg - Index of Titles and First
Lines, pp. 664-665
There is no poem listed called "The Days Pile Up," and there is no first >>>>>> line of "The days pile up like unread newspapers,"
Your move, George Dance. The other book of Mr. Creeley's poems is at: >>>>>> https://dokumen.pub/the-collected-poems-of-robert-creeley-19752005-9780520941670.html
No "The Days Pile Up" in there either.
[...]
We have had the link (and access to the book) since we started looking
for the phantom poem. The poem is not in that book (or any other book). >>>>>
I was given the information on the poem by a trusted source;
but given
this claim of yours that it doesn't appear in [/Collected Poems of
Robert
Creeley 1945 - 1975/], and Creeley's claim (quoted on Amazon) that that >>>>> [book contains everything he published up till 1975,] I think I'll have >>>>> to wait till the
copy I ordered on Amazon is in my hands and I can see for myself if it's >>>>> actually in that book or not. I don't see any reason to make a move
until then, so you'll just l have to wait.
Since it will take me longer to receive the book than it would take you, >>>>> I've asked Will to not give the group any information on it. I've read >>>>> HarryLiar's made-up stories about why Will won't tell you the name of >>>>> the book, so I think it's best for me to tell you that much at least.
I was given the information on the poem by a trusted source; but given
this claim of yours that it doesn't appear in /Collected Poems,
1945-1975/ plus Creeley's claim (quoted on Amazon) that that book
contains everything he published up until 1975, I think I'll have to
wait till the copy I ordered on Amazon is in my hands and I can see for
myself if it's actually in the book I ordered or not. I don't see a
reason to make any "move" till then, so you'll just have to wait.
It's up to you, but we will expect a full apology from you and Mr.
Dockery for calling us a "plagiarist"
I didn't call Nancy Gene a plagiarist but the opening lines of both
poems are obviously similar.
and "second hander." We write our
own poetry and have no need to plagiarize anyone else's.
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Of course, I wrote a very similar opening line back in 1976 that has
been visible online for at least a decade, and I hadn't seen the Robert Creeley poem either, "The seconds have piled up at the floor..."
https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=256444&group=alt.arts.poetry.comments#256444
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Shattered
The seconds have piled up
at the floor
lost here in some other guy's past
lying there
with your seconds piled
there went by a life
untold
unasked
going by
never caused and never traced
the future never ever appears here.
If some morning I wake
here for you
trying to find some reason to return
if I see things denied
I once defined
a life just passed me by there
slipped through my fingers
everything here now is real
so wait.
That portion of the finish
never comes.
Now that the lights are going so low
the dimming glow
falls on my ego
now that I'm falling
into my morning
here I am gazing into those
reflector eyes
morning light
is blasting my head clean too.
Morning's clearer
I've been forgetting it.
Your thoughts seem to stream
like a highway
dimming lights seem to streak
like hitch-hikers.
When does this dream end?
When do I get on up the road?
The light sped out
like a fire-fly
like gravestones
never noticed
never seen.
Like marbles
spilling from shattered minds.
-Will Dockery / August 20 1976
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(Published March 1977 in the Carverlite, the Carver High School
newspaper, Columbus Georgia)
From:
https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/2023/09/shattered.html?m=1
I didn't accuse you (Nancy Gene) of borrowing my line, but they are
very similar opening lines.
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HTH and HAND.
Why do you keep reposting this twaddle, Donkey?
Seconds metaphorically pile on top of a floor; they don't pile at top of
it.
If you can't learn to speak your native language correctly, the least
that you can do would be to correct yourself when someone points out
your mistakes.
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