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On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 5:07:16 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

The Collected Poetry of Robert Creeley covers 1945-1975.

Since Creeley passed away in 2005 that's thirty more years if poetry not collected.

In other words this case is far from closed:

https://www.ucpress.edu/books/the-collected-poems-of-robert-creeley-1945-1975/paper

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That's Volume One, Donkey.

I posted a link for Volume Two as well.

Volume Two covers the period from 1975-2005.

That's ZERO years of poetry not collected.

From this, one must draw the following conclusions:

1) George Dance is lying through his teeth.
2) Even if such a poem did exist, it would have to be exceedingly
obscure; in which case it would be nearly impossible for NancyGene to
have copied it.

We can also make the following suppositions:

1) George Dance made up the line of poetry by altering most of the words
in NancyGene's line.
2) George Dance did so out of jealousy (because I had praised
NancyGene's opening line).
3) George Dance is desperate for my praise, and deeply resentful of
anyone who receives it.
4) George Dance will not only lie, but *libel* other AAPC members who he
views as his enemies -- even if they haven't posted here in over a year.
5) George Dance will even go so far as to create false evidence to back
up his accusations.
6) George Dance lacks both ethics and morals, and is capable of
committing crimes (libel) in an attempt to belittle the achievements of
others.

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On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 14:35:28 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 14:19:42 +0000, HarryLime wrote:

On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 5:07:16 +0000, Will Dockery wrote:

The Collected Poetry of Robert Creeley covers 1945-1975.

Since Creeley passed away in 2005 that's thirty more years if poetry not >>> collected.

In other words this case is far from closed:

https://www.ucpress.edu/books/the-collected-poems-of-robert-creeley-1945-1975/paper

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That's Volume One, Donkey.

I posted a link for Volume Two as well.

Volume Two covers the period from 1975-2005.

That's ZERO years of poetry not collected.

Okay, the information I saw looked like the collected poems only went to 1975.

I'll look again.

I posted this earlier, the Usenet newsgroup archives listing at Google
Groups on Robert Creeley:

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/search?q=%22Robert%20Creeley%22%20

It would be a nice gesture at this point for you to admit that NancyGene
did not copy the line from Creeley. Even if the line were to exist in
some uncollected poem of his, the chances of NancyGene's having been
aware of it are practically non-existent.

It would be even more impressive if you were to also admit that her line
is an immediate classic (which I sincerely believe it is)... but I
suppose that's too much to expect from you.

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On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 18:21:31 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 16:23:42 +0000, HarryLime wrote:

On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 14:35:28 +0000, Will Dockery wrote:

On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 14:19:42 +0000, HarryLime wrote:

On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 5:07:16 +0000, Will Dockery wrote:

The Collected Poetry of Robert Creeley covers 1945-1975.

Since Creeley passed away in 2005 that's thirty more years if poetry not >>>>> collected.

In other words this case is far from closed:

https://www.ucpress.edu/books/the-collected-poems-of-robert-creeley-1945-1975/paper

***

That's Volume One

I posted a link for Volume Two as well.

Volume Two covers the period from 1975-2005.

Again, I'll have another look.

That's ZERO years of poetry not collected.

Okay, the information I saw looked like the collected poems only went to >>> 1975.

I'll look again.

I posted this earlier, the Usenet newsgroup archives listing at Google
Groups on Robert Creeley:

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/search?q=%22Robert%20Creeley%22%20

It would be a nice gesture at this point for you to admit that NancyGene
did not copy the line from Creeley. Even if the line were to exist in
some uncollected poem of his, the chances of NancyGene's having been
aware of it are practically non-existent.

It would be even more impressive if you were to also admit that her line
is an immediate classic (which I sincerely believe it is)... but I
suppose that's too much to expect from you.

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Since I don't yet have a copy of the Robert Creeley collection or a copy
of his poem, I can't make a good call on this one.

I sent you the links for both volumes, Donkey. They're on the same sit,
so if you've got the one you can probably just pull up the other without leaving it.

Either way, you should have more than enough information to realize that NancyGene did not copy a poem that was too obscure to be included in
Creeley's Collected Poems.

Man up and apologize for calling her a second hander, etc.

I did find my poem from 1977 which opens with the line:

"The seconds have piled up on the floor, lost in some other guy's
past..."

https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/2023/09/shattered.html?m=1

Like I said, the image of time piling up is a common one.

But, of course, NancyGene was referring to oppressive memories -- not increments of time.

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On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 14:56:01 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 21:30:42 +0000, HarryLime wrote:

Will Dockery wrote:

On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 14:19:42 +0000, HarryLime wrote:

On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 5:07:16 +0000, Will Dockery wrote:

The Collected Poetry of Robert Creeley covers 1945-1975.

Since Creeley passed away in 2005 that's thirty more years if poetry not
collected.

In other words this case is far from closed:

https://www.ucpress.edu/books/the-collected-poems-of-robert-creeley-1945-1975/paper

***

That's Volume One

I posted a link for Volume Two as well.

Volume Two covers the period from 1975-2005.

Again, I'll have another look.

That's ZERO years of poetry not collected.

Okay, the information I saw looked like the collected poems only went to >>>>> 1975.

I'll look again.

I posted this earlier, the Usenet newsgroup archives listing at Google >>>>> Groups on Robert Creeley:

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/search?q=%22Robert%20Creeley%22%20

It would be a nice gesture at this point for you to admit that NancyGene >>>> did not copy the line from Creeley. Even if the line were to exist in >>>> some uncollected poem of his, the chances of NancyGene's having been
aware of it are practically non-existent.

It would be even more impressive if you were to also admit that her line >>>> is an immediate classic (which I sincerely believe it is)... but I
suppose that's too much to expect from you.

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Since I don't yet have a copy of the Robert Creeley collection or a copy >>> of his poem, I can't make a good call on this one.

I sent you the links for both volumes, Donkey. They're on the same sit,
so if you've got the one you can probably just pull up the other without
leaving it.

Either way, you should have more than enough information to realize that
NancyGene did not copy a poem that was too obscure to be included in
Creeley's Collected Poems.

Man up and apologize for calling her a second hander, etc.

I did find my poem from 1977 which opens with the line:

"The seconds have piled up on the floor, lost in some other guy's
past..."

https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/2023/09/shattered.html?m=1

Like I said, the image of time piling up is a common one.

But, of course, NancyGene was referring to oppressive memories -- not
increments of time.

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That's just a matter of interpretation.

No, Donkey, it isn't.

People don't say things like "Six yesterdays ago, I went to the beach."
They say "Six days ago."

"Days" denotes specific amounts of time. "Six days" denotes a specific
length of time.

"Yesterday" (singular) denotes a specific day. It is not used as a
measurement of passing time.

These are basic English rules that you should have mastered at some
point before the 4th Grade. Again, I cannot imagine how you were
allowed to pass the 4th Grade when your language skills are so
abominably bad.

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On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 15:43:33 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 15:25:18 +0000, HarryLime wrote:

Will Dockery wrote:

On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 14:19:42 +0000, HarryLime wrote:

On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 5:07:16 +0000, Will Dockery wrote:

The Collected Poetry of Robert Creeley covers 1945-1975.

Since Creeley passed away in 2005 that's thirty more years if poetry not
collected.

In other words this case is far from closed:

https://www.ucpress.edu/books/the-collected-poems-of-robert-creeley-1945-1975/paper

***

That's Volume One

I posted a link for Volume Two as well.

Volume Two covers the period from 1975-2005.

Again, I'll have another look.

That's ZERO years of poetry not collected.

Okay, the information I saw looked like the collected poems only went to
1975.

I'll look again.

I posted this earlier, the Usenet newsgroup archives listing at Google >>>>>>> Groups on Robert Creeley:

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/search?q=%22Robert%20Creeley%22%20

It would be a nice gesture at this point for you to admit that NancyGene >>>>>> did not copy the line from Creeley. Even if the line were to exist in >>>>>> some uncollected poem of his, the chances of NancyGene's having been >>>>>> aware of it are practically non-existent.

It would be even more impressive if you were to also admit that her line >>>>>> is an immediate classic (which I sincerely believe it is)... but I >>>>>> suppose that's too much to expect from you.

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Since I don't yet have a copy of the Robert Creeley collection or a copy >>>>> of his poem, I can't make a good call on this one.

I sent you the links for both volumes, Donkey. They're on the same sit, >>>> so if you've got the one you can probably just pull up the other without >>>> leaving it.

Either way, you should have more than enough information to realize that >>>> NancyGene did not copy a poem that was too obscure to be included in
Creeley's Collected Poems.

Man up and apologize for calling her a second hander, etc.

I did find my poem from 1977 which opens with the line:

"The seconds have piled up on the floor, lost in some other guy's
past..."

https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/2023/09/shattered.html?m=1

Like I said, the image of time piling up is a common one.

But, of course, NancyGene was referring to oppressive memories -- not
increments of time.

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That's just a matter of interpretation.

No

Sure, it is.

Only if one is some jerkwater hillbilly who dropped out of school after
having been left back twice.

To those of us who aren't functionally illiterate, there is no question
about its meaning.

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On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 3:32:02 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 15:25:18 +0000, HarryLime wrote:

Will Dockery wrote:

On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 14:19:42 +0000, HarryLime wrote:

On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 5:07:16 +0000, Will Dockery wrote:

The Collected Poetry of Robert Creeley covers 1945-1975.

Since Creeley passed away in 2005 that's thirty more years if poetry not
collected.

In other words this case is far from closed:

https://www.ucpress.edu/books/the-collected-poems-of-robert-creeley-1945-1975/paper

***

That's Volume One

I posted a link for Volume Two as well.

Volume Two covers the period from 1975-2005.

Again, I'll have another look.

That's ZERO years of poetry not collected.

Okay, the information I saw looked like the collected poems only went to
1975.

I'll look again.

I posted this earlier, the Usenet newsgroup archives listing at Google >>>>>>> Groups on Robert Creeley:

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/search?q=%22Robert%20Creeley%22%20

It would be a nice gesture at this point for you to admit that NancyGene >>>>>> did not copy the line from Creeley. Even if the line were to exist in >>>>>> some uncollected poem of his, the chances of NancyGene's having been >>>>>> aware of it are practically non-existent.

It would be even more impressive if you were to also admit that her line >>>>>> is an immediate classic (which I sincerely believe it is)... but I >>>>>> suppose that's too much to expect from you.

--

Since I don't yet have a copy of the Robert Creeley collection or a copy >>>>> of his poem, I can't make a good call on this one.

I sent you the links for both volumes, Donkey. They're on the same sit, >>>> so if you've got the one you can probably just pull up the other without >>>> leaving it.

Either way, you should have more than enough information to realize that >>>> NancyGene did not copy a poem that was too obscure to be included in
Creeley's Collected Poems.

Man up and apologize for calling her a second hander, etc.

I did find my poem from 1977 which opens with the line:

"The seconds have piled up on the floor, lost in some other guy's
past..."

https://shadowville-mythos.blogspot.com/2023/09/shattered.html?m=1

Like I said, the image of time piling up is a common one.

True but Robert Creeley used the idea back in the 1950s.

That's just a matter of interpretation.

it isn't.

If course it is, Harry.

"Yesterday" (singular) denotes a specific day. It is not used as a
measurement of passing time.

Okay, so what?

Someone borrowing a line from another poet would be expected to make
such changes.

Differnt words, different topic, different poem.

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On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 5:07:16 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

The Collected Poetry of Robert Creeley covers 1945-1975.

Since Creeley passed away in 2005 that's thirty more years if poetry not collected.

In other words this case is far from closed:

https://www.ucpress.edu/books/the-collected-poems-of-robert-creeley-1945-1975/paper

Oh, no. There's a second volume, /Collected Poems 1975-2005. But the
book I was told the poem was in was in the period of the first one.

but your conclusion is correct: this case is not closed, until someone
examines that book.

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