• OFFICIAL COMPETITION (no spoilers)

    From moviePig@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 11 17:22:02 2022
    Two egocentric actors take roles in an egocentric director's film.
    OFFICIAL COMPETITION, a Spanish/Argentinian production, satirizes
    European arthouse cinema, but the target's too soft and the satire's not
    funny enough often enough for this U.S. viewer. Minimally recommended.

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  • From william ahearn@21:1/5 to pwal...@moviepig.com on Sun Dec 11 20:53:08 2022
    On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 5:22:06 PM UTC-5, pwal...@moviepig.com wrote:
    Two egocentric actors take roles in an egocentric director's film.
    OFFICIAL COMPETITION, a Spanish/Argentinian production, satirizes
    European arthouse cinema, but the target's too soft and the satire's not funny enough often enough for this U.S. viewer. Minimally recommended.

    Yeah, a tad subtler than your basic slasher film at the Quadplex. The satire is brilliant in places but, granted, ie, not slapstick. Oh, your first sentence is meaningless. Some scenes are just fabulous and you missed it. Too bad.

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to william ahearn on Mon Dec 12 10:29:06 2022
    On 12/11/2022 11:53 PM, william ahearn wrote:
    On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 5:22:06 PM UTC-5, pwal...@moviepig.com wrote:
    Two egocentric actors take roles in an egocentric director's film.
    OFFICIAL COMPETITION, a Spanish/Argentinian production, satirizes
    European arthouse cinema, but the target's too soft and the satire's not
    funny enough often enough for this U.S. viewer. Minimally recommended.

    Yeah, a tad subtler than your basic slasher film at the Quadplex. The satire is brilliant in places but, granted, ie, not slapstick. Oh, your first sentence is meaningless. Some scenes are just fabulous and you missed it. Too bad.

    Which fabulous scenes do you think I missed, or failed to grasp? My
    complaint isn't that none were funny, but were sparse and overdrawn.

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  • From william ahearn@21:1/5 to pwal...@moviepig.com on Mon Dec 12 16:54:42 2022
    On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 10:29:10 AM UTC-5, pwal...@moviepig.com wrote:

    Which fabulous scenes do you think I missed, or failed to grasp? My complaint isn't that none were funny, but were sparse and overdrawn.

    Most of the scenes with both actors -- Antonio Banderas and Oscar Martinez -- were spot on and if you've ever worked with actors those scenes ring true. Penelope Cruz absolutely nails the role of director and one of the elements that I appreciated in
    this film is the utter lack of slapstick or broad deliveries or comedic touches. The film finds its own.

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to william ahearn on Tue Dec 13 10:15:23 2022
    On 12/12/2022 7:54 PM, william ahearn wrote:
    On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 10:29:10 AM UTC-5, pwal...@moviepig.com wrote:

    Which fabulous scenes do you think I missed, or failed to grasp? My
    complaint isn't that none were funny, but were sparse and overdrawn.

    Most of the scenes with both actors -- Antonio Banderas and Oscar Martinez -- were spot on and if you've ever worked with actors those scenes ring true. Penelope Cruz absolutely nails the role of director and one of the elements that I appreciated in
    this film is the utter lack of slapstick or broad deliveries or comedic touches. The film finds its own.

    Here's the worst review from MetaCritic:

    "As a fan of Cohn and Duprat’s tighter, darker previous
    collaborations I was keenly aware of the passage of screen time and
    slack pacing here. OFFICIAL COMPETITION feels like an 80 minute spoof
    bundled in the gauze of a 115 minute film."

    Admittedly, even that "pan" is a 50/100, and OC's reviews were generally
    quite high. But I think it expresses well an aspect to which I'm
    particularly sensitive, i.e., when I spontaneously check my watch while viewing. Of course, one man's impatience is another's ADHD...

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  • From william ahearn@21:1/5 to pwal...@moviepig.com on Tue Dec 13 08:38:18 2022
    On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 10:15:27 AM UTC-5, pwal...@moviepig.com wrote:

    Here's the worst review from MetaCritic:

    "As a fan of Cohn and Duprat’s tighter, darker previous
    collaborations I was keenly aware of the passage of screen time and
    slack pacing here. OFFICIAL COMPETITION feels like an 80 minute spoof bundled in the gauze of a 115 minute film."

    Admittedly, even that "pan" is a 50/100, and OC's reviews were generally quite high. But I think it expresses well an aspect to which I'm particularly sensitive, i.e., when I spontaneously check my watch while viewing. Of course, one man's impatience is another's ADHD...

    You didn't like the film. Fine. Fortunately, I don't really care what critics say and I find your reliance on IMDb and MetaCritic distressing. Same as it ever was . . .

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to william ahearn on Tue Dec 13 13:59:55 2022
    On 12/13/2022 11:38 AM, william ahearn wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 10:15:27 AM UTC-5, pwal...@moviepig.com wrote:

    Here's the worst review from MetaCritic:

    "As a fan of Cohn and Duprat’s tighter, darker previous
    collaborations I was keenly aware of the passage of screen time and
    slack pacing here. OFFICIAL COMPETITION feels like an 80 minute spoof
    bundled in the gauze of a 115 minute film."

    Admittedly, even that "pan" is a 50/100, and OC's reviews were generally
    quite high. But I think it expresses well an aspect to which I'm
    particularly sensitive, i.e., when I spontaneously check my watch while
    viewing. Of course, one man's impatience is another's ADHD...

    You didn't like the film. Fine. Fortunately, I don't really care what critics say and I find your reliance on IMDb and MetaCritic distressing. Same as it ever was . . .

    Note, though, that MetaCritic's generally high opinion (numerical - I'd
    never read words beforehand) was a significant factor in my choosing OC
    for that particular group movie night. I quoted the critic above only
    as a coherent expression of what left me somewhat disappointed.

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to william ahearn on Tue Dec 13 15:07:54 2022
    On 12/13/2022 2:41 PM, william ahearn wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 2:00:00 PM UTC-5, pwal...@moviepig.com wrote:
    On 12/13/2022 11:38 AM, william ahearn wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 10:15:27 AM UTC-5, pwal...@moviepig.com wrote:

    Here's the worst review from MetaCritic:

    "As a fan of Cohn and Duprat’s tighter, darker previous
    collaborations I was keenly aware of the passage of screen time and
    slack pacing here. OFFICIAL COMPETITION feels like an 80 minute spoof
    bundled in the gauze of a 115 minute film."

    Admittedly, even that "pan" is a 50/100, and OC's reviews were generally >>>> quite high. But I think it expresses well an aspect to which I'm
    particularly sensitive, i.e., when I spontaneously check my watch while >>>> viewing. Of course, one man's impatience is another's ADHD...

    You didn't like the film. Fine. Fortunately, I don't really care what critics say and I find your reliance on IMDb and MetaCritic distressing. Same as it ever was . . .
    Note, though, that MetaCritic's generally high opinion (numerical - I'd
    never read words beforehand) was a significant factor in my choosing OC
    for that particular group movie night. I quoted the critic above only
    as a coherent expression of what left me somewhat disappointed.

    One can only suppose what your reaction would have been if you had gone in cold.

    Except for knowing a bunch of critics liked it, I did go in "cold".

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  • From william ahearn@21:1/5 to pwal...@moviepig.com on Tue Dec 13 11:41:03 2022
    On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 2:00:00 PM UTC-5, pwal...@moviepig.com wrote:
    On 12/13/2022 11:38 AM, william ahearn wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 10:15:27 AM UTC-5, pwal...@moviepig.com wrote:

    Here's the worst review from MetaCritic:

    "As a fan of Cohn and Duprat’s tighter, darker previous
    collaborations I was keenly aware of the passage of screen time and
    slack pacing here. OFFICIAL COMPETITION feels like an 80 minute spoof
    bundled in the gauze of a 115 minute film."

    Admittedly, even that "pan" is a 50/100, and OC's reviews were generally >> quite high. But I think it expresses well an aspect to which I'm
    particularly sensitive, i.e., when I spontaneously check my watch while >> viewing. Of course, one man's impatience is another's ADHD...

    You didn't like the film. Fine. Fortunately, I don't really care what critics say and I find your reliance on IMDb and MetaCritic distressing. Same as it ever was . . .
    Note, though, that MetaCritic's generally high opinion (numerical - I'd never read words beforehand) was a significant factor in my choosing OC
    for that particular group movie night. I quoted the critic above only
    as a coherent expression of what left me somewhat disappointed.

    One can only suppose what your reaction would have been if you had gone in cold.

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  • From william ahearn@21:1/5 to pwal...@moviepig.com on Tue Dec 13 12:30:54 2022
    On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 3:07:58 PM UTC-5, pwal...@moviepig.com wrote:
    On 12/13/2022 2:41 PM, william ahearn wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 2:00:00 PM UTC-5, pwal...@moviepig.com wrote:
    On 12/13/2022 11:38 AM, william ahearn wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 10:15:27 AM UTC-5, pwal...@moviepig.com wrote:

    Here's the worst review from MetaCritic:

    "As a fan of Cohn and Duprat’s tighter, darker previous
    collaborations I was keenly aware of the passage of screen time and >>>> slack pacing here. OFFICIAL COMPETITION feels like an 80 minute spoof >>>> bundled in the gauze of a 115 minute film."

    Admittedly, even that "pan" is a 50/100, and OC's reviews were generally
    quite high. But I think it expresses well an aspect to which I'm
    particularly sensitive, i.e., when I spontaneously check my watch while >>>> viewing. Of course, one man's impatience is another's ADHD...

    You didn't like the film. Fine. Fortunately, I don't really care what critics say and I find your reliance on IMDb and MetaCritic distressing. Same as it ever was . . .
    Note, though, that MetaCritic's generally high opinion (numerical - I'd >> never read words beforehand) was a significant factor in my choosing OC >> for that particular group movie night. I quoted the critic above only
    as a coherent expression of what left me somewhat disappointed.

    One can only suppose what your reaction would have been if you had gone in cold.
    Except for knowing a bunch of critics liked it, I did go in "cold".

    That should teach you . . .

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to moviePig on Thu Dec 15 04:00:45 2022
    On 12/12/22 9:29 AM, moviePig wrote:
    On 12/11/2022 11:53 PM, william ahearn wrote:
    On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 5:22:06 PM UTC-5, pwal...@moviepig.com
    wrote:
    Two egocentric actors take roles in an egocentric director's film.
    OFFICIAL COMPETITION, a Spanish/Argentinian production, satirizes
    European arthouse cinema, but the target's too soft and the satire's not >>> funny enough often enough for this U.S. viewer. Minimally recommended.

    Yeah, a tad subtler than your basic slasher film at the Quadplex. The
    satire is brilliant in places but, granted, ie, not slapstick. Oh,
    your first sentence is meaningless. Some scenes are just fabulous and
    you missed it. Too bad.

    Which fabulous scenes do you think I missed, or failed to grasp?  My complaint isn't that none were funny, but were sparse and overdrawn.


    That's the problem with Billy Ahearn, he acts like he's in an exclusive
    club where only he "gets" things. As if a subjective opinion can be
    "wrong."

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to william ahearn on Thu Dec 15 04:02:49 2022
    On 12/12/22 6:54 PM, william ahearn wrote:
    On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 10:29:10 AM UTC-5, pwal...@moviepig.com wrote:

    Which fabulous scenes do you think I missed, or failed to grasp? My
    complaint isn't that none were funny, but were sparse and overdrawn.

    Most of the scenes with both actors -- Antonio Banderas and Oscar Martinez -- were spot on and if you've ever worked with actors those scenes ring true. Penelope Cruz absolutely nails the role of director and one of the elements that I appreciated in
    this film is the utter lack of slapstick or broad deliveries or comedic touches. The film finds its own.


    Wow, so if one hasn't "worked with actors" then that person viewing the
    film is screwed? That limits the audience quite a bit don't you think? ("...don't you think" is rhetorical, unless it isn't.)

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to moviePig on Thu Dec 15 04:04:30 2022
    On 12/13/22 9:15 AM, moviePig wrote:
    On 12/12/2022 7:54 PM, william ahearn wrote:
    On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 10:29:10 AM UTC-5,
    pwal...@moviepig.com wrote:

    Which fabulous scenes do you think I missed, or failed to grasp? My
    complaint isn't that none were funny, but were sparse and overdrawn.

    Most of the scenes with both actors -- Antonio Banderas and Oscar
    Martinez -- were spot on and if you've ever worked with actors those
    scenes ring true. Penelope Cruz absolutely nails the role of director
    and one of the elements that I appreciated in this film is the utter
    lack of slapstick or broad deliveries or comedic touches. The film
    finds its own.

    Here's the worst review from MetaCritic:

       "As a fan of Cohn and Duprat’s tighter, darker previous collaborations I was keenly aware of the passage of screen time and
    slack pacing here. OFFICIAL COMPETITION feels like an 80 minute spoof
    bundled in the gauze of a 115 minute film."

    Admittedly, even that "pan" is a 50/100, and OC's reviews were generally quite high.  But I think it expresses well an aspect to which I'm particularly sensitive, i.e., when I spontaneously check my watch while viewing.  Of course, one man's impatience is another's ADHD...


    Wow, it's like taking a class in bad commentary. "wrapped in the gauze
    of 115 minute film" can only be described as a horseshit metaphor.

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to william ahearn on Thu Dec 15 04:06:28 2022
    On 12/13/22 1:41 PM, william ahearn wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 2:00:00 PM UTC-5, pwal...@moviepig.com wrote:
    On 12/13/2022 11:38 AM, william ahearn wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 10:15:27 AM UTC-5, pwal...@moviepig.com wrote:

    Here's the worst review from MetaCritic:

    "As a fan of Cohn and Duprat’s tighter, darker previous
    collaborations I was keenly aware of the passage of screen time and
    slack pacing here. OFFICIAL COMPETITION feels like an 80 minute spoof
    bundled in the gauze of a 115 minute film."

    Admittedly, even that "pan" is a 50/100, and OC's reviews were generally >>>> quite high. But I think it expresses well an aspect to which I'm
    particularly sensitive, i.e., when I spontaneously check my watch while >>>> viewing. Of course, one man's impatience is another's ADHD...

    You didn't like the film. Fine. Fortunately, I don't really care what critics say and I find your reliance on IMDb and MetaCritic distressing. Same as it ever was . . .
    Note, though, that MetaCritic's generally high opinion (numerical - I'd
    never read words beforehand) was a significant factor in my choosing OC
    for that particular group movie night. I quoted the critic above only
    as a coherent expression of what left me somewhat disappointed.

    One can only suppose what your reaction would have been if you had gone in cold.


    That's a fair cop as the Brits would say.

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to trotsky on Thu Dec 15 09:50:51 2022
    On 12/15/2022 5:06 AM, trotsky wrote:
    On 12/13/22 1:41 PM, william ahearn wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 2:00:00 PM UTC-5,
    pwal...@moviepig.com wrote:
    On 12/13/2022 11:38 AM, william ahearn wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 10:15:27 AM UTC-5,
    pwal...@moviepig.com wrote:

    Here's the worst review from MetaCritic:

    "As a fan of Cohn and Duprat’s tighter, darker previous
    collaborations I was keenly aware of the passage of screen time and
    slack pacing here. OFFICIAL COMPETITION feels like an 80 minute spoof >>>>> bundled in the gauze of a 115 minute film."

    Admittedly, even that "pan" is a 50/100, and OC's reviews were
    generally
    quite high. But I think it expresses well an aspect to which I'm
    particularly sensitive, i.e., when I spontaneously check my watch
    while
    viewing. Of course, one man's impatience is another's ADHD...

    You didn't like the film. Fine. Fortunately, I don't really care
    what critics say and I find your reliance on IMDb and MetaCritic
    distressing. Same as it ever was . . .
    Note, though, that MetaCritic's generally high opinion (numerical - I'd
    never read words beforehand) was a significant factor in my choosing OC
    for that particular group movie night. I quoted the critic above only
    as a coherent expression of what left me somewhat disappointed.

    One can only suppose what your reaction would have been if you had
    gone in cold.


    That's a fair cop as the Brits would say.

    But it is, of course, impossible to go in at the same level of "cold" as
    anyone else. E.g., here, there's one's familiarity with the name
    actors. The best that can be done, I'd guess, is to (try to) notice how readily you seem to overcome such "prejudices". I love it when I can
    say, "Despite all my expectations for this flick..."

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