• Re: is there an alternate story about the Space Shuttle Columbia?

    From dgold@21:1/5 to danny burstein on Thu Dec 7 08:58:15 2023
    On 2023-11-15, danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:
    The Shuttle burned up on re-entry 01-Feb-2003 after
    two weeks in orbit.

    I'm wondering if there's an alternate history story
    anyone's bumped into, where the damage was discovered
    in the first few days in orbit, and then everyone
    scratched their heads...

    it may not be exactly what you've looked for, but back in 2014 Lee
    Hutchinson and a bunch of space scientists did an in-depth report into
    the question of *if* Columbia could have been saved at all.

    https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/02/the-audacious-rescue-plan-that-might-have-saved-space-shuttle-columbia-2/

    The reporting is clear-eyed and doesn't fudge the desperate difficulty
    that such a mission would have faced.

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    dgold <news@dgold.eu>

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  • From danny burstein@21:1/5 to dgold on Thu Dec 7 13:44:37 2023
    In <uks1f7$mtj$1@dgold.eu> dgold <d@gold.invalid> writes:

    On 2023-11-15, danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:
    The Shuttle burned up on re-entry 01-Feb-2003 after
    two weeks in orbit.

    I'm wondering if there's an alternate history story
    anyone's bumped into, where the damage was discovered
    in the first few days in orbit, and then everyone
    scratched their heads...

    it may not be exactly what you've looked for, but back in 2014 Lee
    Hutchinson and a bunch of space scientists did an in-depth report into
    the question of *if* Columbia could have been saved at all.

    https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/02/the-audacious-rescue-plan-that-might-have-saved-space-shuttle-columbia-2/

    The reporting is clear-eyed and doesn't fudge the desperate difficulty
    that such a mission would have faced.

    thanks. I'll take a look.

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  • From danny burstein@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 10 01:22:43 2023
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    I'm wondering if there's an alternate history story
    anyone's bumped into, where the damage was discovered
    in the first few days in orbit, and then everyone
    scratched their heads...

    it may not be exactly what you've looked for, but back in 2014 Lee >>Hutchinson and a bunch of space scientists did an in-depth report into
    the question of *if* Columbia could have been saved at all.

    https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/02/the-audacious-rescue-plan-that-might-have-saved-space-shuttle-columbia-2/

    The reporting is clear-eyed and doesn't fudge the desperate difficulty
    that such a mission would have faced.

    thanks. I'll take a look.

    Ok, I've read through it. They did a good job of
    analysing options (summary: If the damage was detected
    in first couple of days and everyone bit through their
    fingernails and everything went just right, then maybe...).

    However, they missed one serious option. Or at
    least one they hsould have considered.

    They focused on the possibilty of gettine
    another shuttle alongside the Columbia.

    While that pretty clearly would be needed in
    order to bring the crew back to Earth, that
    would NOT necessarily be required in order
    to get key supplies to them.

    The immediate threat was from the buildup
    of CO2, which in standard missions was "scrubbed"
    by lithium-hydroxide canisters. These would,
    barely, make it for four weeks.

    Sending an unmanned rocket with them and other
    immediate supplies to the shuttle, and getting
    it close enough that they could be retrieved
    via an EVA, might, possibly, perhaps, have
    been plausible.

    Especially if the Chinese and Russian equivalents
    of their heads of NASA pushed their gov't
    leaders out of the way and called Houston
    and Cape Canaveral directly...

    (Russian NASA to his Commisar: "just
    think of our glorious opportunity to
    show the Kapitalists how much better
    we are...")

    I'd love to see an analysis...

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