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  • From Bag End to Babel: Top 10 libraries in fiction

    From Don@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 4 01:57:14 2023
    1. The Hobbit by JRR Tolkien
    2. The Catalogue of Rare Books Not for Sale by John Donne
    3. Tik-Tok by John Sladek
    4. The Library of Babel by Jorge Luis Borges
    5. The Name of the Rose by Umberto Eco
    6. The Cemetery of Lost Books in The Shadow of the Wind by Carlos Ruiz Zafón
    7. The Citadel Library in A Song of Ice and Fire by George RR Martin
    8. Peter Kien’s books in Auto-da-Fé by Elias Canetti
    9. Night Lamp by Jack Vance
    10. The Night Bookmobile by Audrey Niffenegger

    <https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/jul/31/top-10-libraries-in-fiction-jrr-tolkien-borges-game-of-thrones>

    The associations between 4 and 5 will be fleshed out in future posts by
    me.

    The Niffenegger piques my interest in light of my enjoyment of her non-
    linear, debut novel: _The Time Traveler's Wife_.

    Danke,

    --
    Don.......My cat's )\._.,--....,'``. https://crcomp.net/reviews.php telltale tall tail /, _.. \ _\ (`._ ,. Walk humbly with thy God.
    tells tall tales.. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.' Make 1984 fiction again.

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  • From Robert Woodward@21:1/5 to Don on Sun Dec 3 21:43:31 2023
    In article <20231203b@crcomp.net>, Don <g@crcomp.net> wrote:

    1. The Hobbit by JRR Tolkien
    2. The Catalogue of Rare Books Not for Sale by John Donne
    3. Tik-Tok by John Sladek
    4. The Library of Babel by Jorge Luis Borges
    5. The Name of the Rose by Umberto Eco
    6. The Cemetery of Lost Books in The Shadow of the Wind by Carlos Ruiz
    Zafón
    7. The Citadel Library in A Song of Ice and Fire by George RR Martin
    8. Peter Kien’s books in Auto-da-Fé by Elias Canetti
    9. Night Lamp by Jack Vance
    10. The Night Bookmobile by Audrey Niffenegger

    <https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/jul/31/top-10-libraries-in-fiction-jrr
    -tolkien-borges-game-of-thrones>


    I would add the Beast's library in Robin McKinley's _Beauty_. IIRC
    (which I might not), the conversation when Beauty was shown the library
    was:

    "I didn't know that there were that many books in the world."

    "Actually, most of them haven't been written yet."

    "Kipling? Is that a name?"

    --
    "We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
    Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_. ‹-----------------------------------------------------
    Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com

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  • From Ted Nolan @21:1/5 to blues95@ivillage.com on Mon Dec 4 07:06:08 2023
    In article <061dd101-17e7-4589-be15-da9b2afb6ffan@googlegroups.com>,
    Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> wrote:
    On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 1:29:43 PM UTC+11, pete...@gmail.com wrote: >> On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 8:57:19 PM UTC-5, Don wrote:
    1. The Hobbit by JRR Tolkien
    2. The Catalogue of Rare Books Not for Sale by John Donne
    3. Tik-Tok by John Sladek
    4. The Library of Babel by Jorge Luis Borges
    5. The Name of the Rose by Umberto Eco
    6. The Cemetery of Lost Books in The Shadow of the Wind by Carlos
    Ruiz Zafón
    7. The Citadel Library in A Song of Ice and Fire by George RR Martin
    8. Peter Kien’s books in Auto-da-Fé by Elias Canetti
    9. Night Lamp by Jack Vance
    10. The Night Bookmobile by Audrey Niffenegger

    <https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/jul/31/top-10-libraries-in-fiction-jrr-tolkien-borges-game-of-thrones>

    The associations between 4 and 5 will be fleshed out in future posts by
    me.

    The Niffenegger piques my interest in light of my enjoyment of her non-
    linear, debut novel: _The Time Traveler's Wife_.
    The Library of Ankh-Morpork University is missing.

    As is Morpheus' Library in "The Sandman" which contains every book never >written. In one panel, a number of the books within it are shown,
    including Tolkien's "The Lost Road" and Lewis Carroll's "Alice's Journey >Behind the Moon."

    -Moriarty

    We had a similiar library in _Hell On High_. IIRC, the librarian's name
    might even have been Lucian.
    --
    columbiaclosings.com
    What's not in Columbia anymore..

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  • From banjo@dontspam.silent.com@21:1/5 to Don on Mon Dec 4 15:43:50 2023
    On Mon, 4 Dec 2023 01:57:14 -0000 (UTC), Don <g@crcomp.net> wrote:

    1. The Hobbit by JRR Tolkien
    2. The Catalogue of Rare Books Not for Sale by John Donne
    3. Tik-Tok by John Sladek
    4. The Library of Babel by Jorge Luis Borges
    5. The Name of the Rose by Umberto Eco
    6. The Cemetery of Lost Books in The Shadow of the Wind by Carlos Ruiz Zafón 7. The Citadel Library in A Song of Ice and Fire by George RR Martin
    8. Peter Kien’s books in Auto-da-Fé by Elias Canetti
    9. Night Lamp by Jack Vance
    10. The Night Bookmobile by Audrey Niffenegger

    <https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/jul/31/top-10-libraries-in-fiction-jrr-tolkien-borges-game-of-thrones>

    The associations between 4 and 5 will be fleshed out in future posts by
    me.

    The Niffenegger piques my interest in light of my enjoyment of her non- >linear, debut novel: _The Time Traveler's Wife_.

    Danke,

    Is there even a mention of a library in The Hobbit? Or a bookshelf?

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to banjo@dontspam.silent.com on Mon Dec 4 08:41:27 2023
    On Mon, 04 Dec 2023 15:43:50 +0000, banjo@dontspam.silent.com wrote:

    On Mon, 4 Dec 2023 01:57:14 -0000 (UTC), Don <g@crcomp.net> wrote:

    1. The Hobbit by JRR Tolkien
    2. The Catalogue of Rare Books Not for Sale by John Donne
    3. Tik-Tok by John Sladek
    4. The Library of Babel by Jorge Luis Borges
    5. The Name of the Rose by Umberto Eco
    6. The Cemetery of Lost Books in The Shadow of the Wind by Carlos Ruiz Zafón
    7. The Citadel Library in A Song of Ice and Fire by George RR Martin
    8. Peter Kien’s books in Auto-da-Fé by Elias Canetti
    9. Night Lamp by Jack Vance
    10. The Night Bookmobile by Audrey Niffenegger
    <https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/jul/31/top-10-libraries-in-fiction-jrr-tolkien-borges-game-of-thrones>

    The associations between 4 and 5 will be fleshed out in future posts by
    me.

    The Niffenegger piques my interest in light of my enjoyment of her non- >>linear, debut novel: _The Time Traveler's Wife_.

    Danke,

    Is there even a mention of a library in The Hobbit? Or a bookshelf?

    Bilbo, who could write (Gandalf tasked him with doing this in
    Mirkwood) and so read, might have had one.

    If so, it would most likely have been entirely devoted to geneology --
    his geneology.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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  • From Don@21:1/5 to Paul on Mon Dec 4 18:58:28 2023
    Paul wrote:
    banjo wrote:
    Don wrote:

    1. The Hobbit by JRR Tolkien
    2. The Catalogue of Rare Books Not for Sale by John Donne
    3. Tik-Tok by John Sladek
    4. The Library of Babel by Jorge Luis Borges
    5. The Name of the Rose by Umberto Eco
    6. The Cemetery of Lost Books in The Shadow of the Wind by Carlos Ruiz Zafón
    7. The Citadel Library in A Song of Ice and Fire by George RR Martin
    8. Peter Kien's books in Auto-da-Fé by Elias Canetti
    9. Night Lamp by Jack Vance
    10. The Night Bookmobile by Audrey Niffenegger
    <https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/jul/31/top-10-libraries-in-fiction-jrr-tolkien-borges-game-of-thrones>

    The associations between 4 and 5 will be fleshed out in future posts by >>>me.

    The Niffenegger piques my interest in light of my enjoyment of her non- >>>linear, debut novel: _The Time Traveler's Wife_.

    Is there even a mention of a library in The Hobbit? Or a bookshelf?

    Bilbo, who could write (Gandalf tasked him with doing this in
    Mirkwood) and so read, might have had one.

    If so, it would most likely have been entirely devoted to geneology --
    his geneology.

    _The Library of Babel_ and _The Name of the Rose_ are the only
    legendary libraries listed above known to me. Nonetheless, at the link,
    the story's scribe, Stuart Kells, says:

    Tolkien’s works are set in an exquisitely realised fantasy
    world that features grand libraries, such as those of Minas
    Tirith and Rivendell, but also humble ones, such as those
    of the Shire.

    Kells also clarifies how the list contains /his/ favorites - as he sees
    it. And, as author of _The Library: A Catalogue of Wonders_, Kells'
    opinion and nomenclature carry some weight with me. YMMV.

    Among other things, a search on Minas Tirith and Rivendell libraries
    returns:

    <https://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?560810-Gandalf-s-Stupendously-Silly-Arcanum-of-Secrets>

    <https://lotro-wiki.com/wiki/Elrond's_Library>

    Both look very grand to me.

    Danke,

    --
    Don.......My cat's )\._.,--....,'``. https://crcomp.net/reviews.php telltale tall tail /, _.. \ _\ (`._ ,. Walk humbly with thy God.
    tells tall tales.. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.' Make 1984 fiction again.

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to pete...@gmail.com on Mon Dec 4 20:51:38 2023
    pete...@gmail.com <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:

    The Library of Ankh-Morpork University is missing.

    Not to mention Trantor.
    Parnassus on Wheels is a bookshop though and not a library per se.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From David Duffy@21:1/5 to Robert Woodward on Wed Dec 6 04:52:17 2023
    Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:

    "Kipling? Is that a name?"

    "Excuse me, do you like Kipling?"
    "I don't know, you naughty boy - I've never kippled."

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