• (tor dot com) Where To Start With the Work of David Drake

    From James Nicoll@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 13 18:13:36 2023
    Where To Start With the Work of David Drake

    New to the works of the late David Drake? Here are five works to consider.

    https://www.tor.com/2023/12/13/where-to-start-with-the-work-of-david-drake/
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  • From WolfFan@21:1/5 to James Nicoll on Thu Dec 14 07:10:08 2023
    On Dec 13, 2023, James Nicoll wrote
    (in article <ulcs8g$kkm$1@reader2.panix.com>):

    Where To Start With the Work of David Drake

    New to the works of the late David Drake? Here are five works to consider.

    https://www.tor.com/2023/12/13/where-to-start-with-the-work-of-david-drake/

    Memories of Drake appeared to be universally positive, and he didn’t seem to have had enemies.
    Oh, he had several enemies, most of whom he outlived. In particular I recall
    a reviewer for Analog magazine who started a review of one of Drake’s Hammer’s Slammers books with “Let’s irritate Drake first”. Said reviewer also managed to piss off several other writers, at least two of whom wrote into Analog requesting that their work no longer be reviewed by
    him--and got published in the letter column. I found his reviews laughable;
    in particular he liked a certain NON milSF write who tended to settle plot points with nuclear weapons, while running on and on about the gore (The
    quote “Oh, the gore!” in a review of Rolling Hot, comes to mind) in Drake’s, and other milSF who wrote about retail rather than wholesale
    death. I found his reviews quite helpful; anything that he didn’t like, I probably would. I wrote into Analog, ointing out that Drake did NOT write the mindless thud and blunder drivel that those reviews suggested. My letter didn’t make the letter column, and I never got a reply. Ah, well. That reviewer departed Analog; Drake had a successful career for several decades after the reviewer was gone.

    I have a lot of Drake books; all of the Hammer’s Slammers, all of the Lord
    of the Isles, all of the RCN, all of his horror (and I don’t have much
    horror that isn’t Drake...), all of his fantasy, and more. Chapter 13 and
    14 of Rolling Hot, and the last paragraph of “The Way We Die” are among
    the reasons why I kept on buying his work.

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  • From James Nicoll@21:1/5 to akwolffan@zoho.com on Thu Dec 14 14:30:07 2023
    In article <0001HW.2B2B282000BB3685700005A5838F@news.eternal-september.org>, WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
    On Dec 13, 2023, James Nicoll wrote
    (in article <ulcs8g$kkm$1@reader2.panix.com>):

    Where To Start With the Work of David Drake

    New to the works of the late David Drake? Here are five works to consider. >>
    https://www.tor.com/2023/12/13/where-to-start-with-the-work-of-david-drake/

    Memories of Drake appeared to be universally positive, and he didn’t seem >> to have had enemies.
    Oh, he had several enemies, most of whom he outlived. In particular I recall >a reviewer for Analog magazine who started a review of one of Drake’s >Hammer’s Slammers books with “Let’s irritate Drake first”. Said >reviewer also managed to piss off several other writers, at least two of whom >wrote into Analog requesting that their work no longer be reviewed by >him--and got published in the letter column. I found his reviews laughable; >in particular he liked a certain NON milSF write who tended to settle plot >points with nuclear weapons, while running on and on about the gore (The >quote “Oh, the gore!” in a review of Rolling Hot, comes to mind) in >Drake’s, and other milSF who wrote about retail rather than wholesale >death. I found his reviews quite helpful; anything that he didn’t like, I >probably would. I wrote into Analog, ointing out that Drake did NOT write the >mindless thud and blunder drivel that those reviews suggested. My letter >didn’t make the letter column, and I never got a reply. Ah, well. That >reviewer departed Analog; Drake had a successful career for several decades >after the reviewer was gone.

    I have a lot of Drake books; all of the Hammer’s Slammers, all of the Lord >of the Isles, all of the RCN, all of his horror (and I don’t have much >horror that isn’t Drake...), all of his fantasy, and more. Chapter 13 and >14 of Rolling Hot, and the last paragraph of “The Way We Die” are among >the reasons why I kept on buying his work.


    Which book got reviewed in Analog? A quick skim didn't turn up the review
    on ISFDB.
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    My tor pieces at https://www.tor.com/author/james-davis-nicoll/
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  • From WolfFan@21:1/5 to James Nicoll on Thu Dec 14 17:48:32 2023
    On Dec 14, 2023, James Nicoll wrote
    (in article <ulf3hf$mpd$1@reader2.panix.com>):

    In article<0001HW.2B2B282000BB3685700005A5838F@news.eternal-september.org>, WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
    On Dec 13, 2023, James Nicoll wrote
    (in article <ulcs8g$kkm$1@reader2.panix.com>):

    Where To Start With the Work of David Drake

    New to the works of the late David Drake? Here are five works to consider.

    https://www.tor.com/2023/12/13/where-to-start-with-the-work-of-david-drake/

    Memories of Drake appeared to be universally positive, and he didn’t seem
    to have had enemies.
    Oh, he had several enemies, most of whom he outlived. In particular I recall
    a reviewer for Analog magazine who started a review of one of Drake’s Hammer’s Slammers books with “Let’s irritate Drake first”. Said reviewer also managed to piss off several other writers, at least two of whom
    wrote into Analog requesting that their work no longer be reviewed by him--and got published in the letter column. I found his reviews laughable; in particular he liked a certain NON milSF write who tended to settle plot points with nuclear weapons, while running on and on about the gore (The quote “Oh, the gore!” in a review of Rolling Hot, comes to mind) in Drake’s, and other milSF who wrote about retail rather than wholesale death. I found his reviews quite helpful; anything that he didn’t like, I probably would. I wrote into Analog, ointing out that Drake did NOT write the
    mindless thud and blunder drivel that those reviews suggested. My letter didn’t make the letter column, and I never got a reply. Ah, well. That reviewer departed Analog; Drake had a successful career for several decades after the reviewer was gone.

    I have a lot of Drake books; all of the Hammer’s Slammers, all of the Lord
    of the Isles, all of the RCN, all of his horror (and I don’t have much horror that isn’t Drake...), all of his fantasy, and more. Chapter 13 and 14 of Rolling Hot, and the last paragraph of “The Way We Die” are among the reasons why I kept on buying his work.

    Which book got reviewed in Analog? A quick skim didn't turn up the review
    on ISFDB.

    Either Rolling Hot, The Sharp End, or Counting The Cost. Probably Rolling
    Hot. It’s been a long time. I don’t remember the reviewer’s name. I do remember just how pissed I was when I read the review.

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  • From Robert Woodward@21:1/5 to WolfFan on Thu Dec 14 21:58:25 2023
    In article
    <0001HW.2B2BBDC000DE47C1700005A5838F@news.eternal-september.org>,
    WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:

    On Dec 14, 2023, James Nicoll wrote
    (in article <ulf3hf$mpd$1@reader2.panix.com>):

    In article<0001HW.2B2B282000BB3685700005A5838F@news.eternal-september.org>, WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
    On Dec 13, 2023, James Nicoll wrote
    (in article <ulcs8g$kkm$1@reader2.panix.com>):

    Where To Start With the Work of David Drake

    New to the works of the late David Drake? Here are five works to consider.

    https://www.tor.com/2023/12/13/where-to-start-with-the-work-of-david-dra
    ke/

    Memories of Drake appeared to be universally positive, and he didn’t seem
    to have had enemies.
    Oh, he had several enemies, most of whom he outlived. In particular I recall
    a reviewer for Analog magazine who started a review of one of Drake’s Hammer’s Slammers books with “Let’s irritate Drake first”. Said reviewer also managed to piss off several other writers, at least two of whom
    wrote into Analog requesting that their work no longer be reviewed by him--and got published in the letter column. I found his reviews laughable;
    in particular he liked a certain NON milSF write who tended to settle plot
    points with nuclear weapons, while running on and on about the gore (The quote “Oh, the gore!” in a review of Rolling Hot, comes to mind) in Drake’s, and other milSF who wrote about retail rather than wholesale death. I found his reviews quite helpful; anything that he didn’t like, I
    probably would. I wrote into Analog, ointing out that Drake did NOT write the
    mindless thud and blunder drivel that those reviews suggested. My letter didn’t make the letter column, and I never got a reply. Ah, well. That reviewer departed Analog; Drake had a successful career for several decades
    after the reviewer was gone.

    I have a lot of Drake books; all of the Hammer’s Slammers, all of the Lord
    of the Isles, all of the RCN, all of his horror (and I don’t have much horror that isn’t Drake...), all of his fantasy, and more. Chapter 13 and
    14 of Rolling Hot, and the last paragraph of “The Way We Die” are among
    the reasons why I kept on buying his work.

    Which book got reviewed in Analog? A quick skim didn't turn up the review on ISFDB.

    Either Rolling Hot, The Sharp End, or Counting The Cost. Probably Rolling Hot. It’s been a long time. I don’t remember the reviewer’s name. I do remember just how pissed I was when I read the review.

    I checked Analog's review column for 1989 (Tom Easton was the Analog
    review then), and I found this sentence in October 1989 issue:

    "Let's aggravate David Drake first." However, this was for a review of
    _Cluster Command_ by David Drake and W. C. Deitz (2nd in the Crisis of
    Empire series - a definite sharecropping). In the November 1989 issue,
    Tom Easton kinda apologizes for his review.

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    Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_. —-----------------------------------------------------
    Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com

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  • From WolfFan@21:1/5 to Robert Woodward on Sat Dec 16 07:16:30 2023
    On Dec 15, 2023, Robert Woodward wrote
    (in article<robertaw-EDE77C.21582514122023@news.individual.net>):

    In article
    <0001HW.2B2BBDC000DE47C1700005A5838F@news.eternal-september.org>,
    WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:

    On Dec 14, 2023, James Nicoll wrote
    (in article <ulf3hf$mpd$1@reader2.panix.com>):

    In article<0001HW.2B2B282000BB3685700005A5838F@news.eternal-september.org>,
    WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
    On Dec 13, 2023, James Nicoll wrote
    (in article <ulcs8g$kkm$1@reader2.panix.com>):

    Where To Start With the Work of David Drake

    New to the works of the late David Drake? Here are five works to consider.

    https://www.tor.com/2023/12/13/where-to-start-with-the-work-of-david-dra
    ke/

    Memories of Drake appeared to be universally positive, and he didn’t
    seem
    to have had enemies.
    Oh, he had several enemies, most of whom he outlived. In particular I recall
    a reviewer for Analog magazine who started a review of one of Drake’s Hammer’s Slammers books with “Let’s irritate Drake first”. Said reviewer also managed to piss off several other writers, at least two of
    whom
    wrote into Analog requesting that their work no longer be reviewed by him--and got published in the letter column. I found his reviews laughable;
    in particular he liked a certain NON milSF write who tended to settle plot
    points with nuclear weapons, while running on and on about the gore (The
    quote “Oh, the gore!” in a review of Rolling Hot, comes to mind) in Drake’s, and other milSF who wrote about retail rather than wholesale death. I found his reviews quite helpful; anything that he didn’t like,
    I
    probably would. I wrote into Analog, ointing out that Drake did NOT write
    the
    mindless thud and blunder drivel that those reviews suggested. My letter
    didn’t make the letter column, and I never got a reply. Ah, well. That
    reviewer departed Analog; Drake had a successful career for several decades
    after the reviewer was gone.

    I have a lot of Drake books; all of the Hammer’s Slammers, all of the Lord
    of the Isles, all of the RCN, all of his horror (and I don’t have much
    horror that isn’t Drake...), all of his fantasy, and more. Chapter 13 and
    14 of Rolling Hot, and the last paragraph of “The Way We Die” are among
    the reasons why I kept on buying his work.

    Which book got reviewed in Analog? A quick skim didn't turn up the review on ISFDB.

    Either Rolling Hot, The Sharp End, or Counting The Cost. Probably Rolling Hot. It’s been a long time. I don’t remember the reviewer’s name. I do
    remember just how pissed I was when I read the review.

    I checked Analog's review column for 1989 (Tom Easton was the Analog
    review then), and I found this sentence in October 1989 issue:

    "Let's aggravate David Drake first."

    Ah. That would be it. It caught my attention.
    However, this was for a review of
    _Cluster Command_ by David Drake and W. C. Deitz (2nd in the Crisis of
    Empire series - a definite sharecropping). In the November 1989 issue,
    Tom Easton kinda apologizes for his review.

    only kinda. and much too late. As noted previously, he had a serious attitude proble wrt milSF, despite loving non-milSF authors who nuked everything in sight. He was not, and is not, alone in that attitude.

    And I’m certain that he reviewed Rolling Hot at some time, and that review annoyed me even more.

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