I'm finally switching out from Google Groups. I would have waited closer
to the deadline, but the troll is now hitting rasfw with literally
hundreds of new threads a day, and scrolling thru them to find real
posts got onerous.
I reactivated an eternal September account I set up many years ago, and
am currently trying Thunderbird. I'm not completely happy with it - if >there's a threaded tree display I haven't found it, and I worry that it
may not play nice with my gmail account (10Gb, 53k messages, which I
need to use from many devices, mostly by web).
Can people see this message?
Peter Trei
pt
I'm finally switching out from Google Groups. I would have waited closer
to the deadline, but the troll is now hitting rasfw with literally
hundreds of new threads a day, and scrolling thru them to find real
posts got onerous.
I reactivated an eternal September account I set up many years ago, and
am currently trying Thunderbird. I'm not completely happy with it - if >there's a threaded tree display I haven't found it, and I worry that it
may not play nice with my gmail account (10Gb, 53k messages, which I
need to use from many devices, mostly by web).
Can people see this message?
Peter Trei
Can people see this message?
I'm finally switching out from Google Groups. I would have waited closer
to the deadline, but the troll is now hitting rasfw with literally
hundreds of new threads a day, and scrolling thru them to find real
posts got onerous.
I reactivated an eternal September account I set up many years ago, and
am currently trying Thunderbird. I'm not completely happy with it - if there's a threaded tree display I haven't found it, and I worry that it
may not play nice with my gmail account (10Gb, 53k messages, which I
need to use from many devices, mostly by web).
Can people see this message?
Peter Trei
I'm finally switching out from Google Groups. I would have waited closer
to the deadline, but the troll is now hitting rasfw with literally
hundreds of new threads a day, and scrolling thru them to find real
posts got onerous.
I reactivated an eternal September account I set up many years ago, and
am currently trying Thunderbird. I'm not completely happy with it - if >there's a threaded tree display I haven't found it, and I worry that it
may not play nice with my gmail account (10Gb, 53k messages, which I
need to use from many devices, mostly by web).
Can people see this message?
I reactivated an eternal September account I set up many years ago, and
am currently trying Thunderbird. I'm not completely happy with it - if there's a threaded tree display I haven't found it, and I worry that it
may not play nice with my gmail account (10Gb, 53k messages, which I
need to use from many devices, mostly by web).
Can people see this message?
On 2024-01-26, Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
I reactivated an eternal September account I set up many years ago, and
am currently trying Thunderbird. I'm not completely happy with it - if
there's a threaded tree display I haven't found it, and I worry that it
may not play nice with my gmail account (10Gb, 53k messages, which I
need to use from many devices, mostly by web).
Can people see this message?
Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
Yup.
-dsr-
I'm finally switching out from Google Groups. I would have waited closerTry Betterbird - http://bettterbird.eu - it's TB with fixes.
to the deadline, but the troll is now hitting rasfw with literally
hundreds of new threads a day, and scrolling thru them to find real
posts got onerous.
I reactivated an eternal September account I set up many years ago, and
am currently trying Thunderbird. I'm not completely happy with it - if there's a threaded tree display I haven't found it, and I worry that it
may not play nice with my gmail account (10Gb, 53k messages, which I
need to use from many devices, mostly by web).
Can people see this message?
Peter Trei
pt
I'm finally switching out from Google Groups. I would have waited closer
to the deadline, but the troll is now hitting rasfw with literally
hundreds of new threads a day, and scrolling thru them to find real
posts got onerous.
I reactivated an eternal September account I set up many years ago, and
am currently trying Thunderbird. I'm not completely happy with it - if there's a threaded tree display I haven't found it, and I worry that it
may not play nice with my gmail account (10Gb, 53k messages, which I
need to use from many devices, mostly by web).
Can people see this message?
Peter Trei
pt
I'm finally switching out from Google Groups. I would have waited closer
to the deadline, but the troll is now hitting rasfw with literally
hundreds of new threads a day, and scrolling thru them to find real
posts got onerous.
I reactivated an eternal September account I set up many years ago, and
am currently trying Thunderbird. I'm not completely happy with it - if >there's a threaded tree display I haven't found it, and I worry that it
may not play nice with my gmail account (10Gb, 53k messages, which I
need to use from many devices, mostly by web).
Can people see this message?
Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> writes:
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Yes. I recommend xrn if you're using linux. supports threading,
very lightweight (Xaw toolkit).
[snip]
At the moment I'm using Thunderbird on Windows. There are some
niggling irritations. I wonder if they can be worked around.
1. The 'Reply' button prominently displayed at the top of a
message sends an email - it does not reply to the group.
When I do 'reply to all', it posts to the group, but also emails
the person who wrote what I'm replying to. I'd rather only
post to group.
2. While I've managed to get a threaded display, I can't sort
by 'thread most recently updated'. I can 'show only new threads',
but that doesn't show threads where I've already read some of the
replies. I'm forced to scroll down looking for thread entries
which are underlined, and have new replies.
On 2/3/2024 7:13 PM, Mike Van Pelt wrote:
In article <CESsN.67750$zqTf.38643@fx35.iad>,
Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote:
Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> writes:
Can people see this message?
Saw it.
Yes. I recommend xrn if you're using linux. supports threading,
very lightweight (Xaw toolkit).
I'm not familiar with xrn, but I am with trn. Also runs under
Linux. Given the name, I wouldn't be surprised if xrn was
pretty similar.
trn, at least, runs in "Linux Subsystem for Windows", which
is how I'm running it now. You can install it with a simple
"apt get". This might also be true of xrn.
A few times in the past, unsatisifed with gui forum software,
I've thought about what I would want in the ideal online forum
software. Every time, I didn't get far before I realized I was
re-inventing the most recent trn 4.0. (where "most recent" is
a couple decades old at this point.)
I built trn from source under Linux a few years ago, when we
were getting excited over the use of UTF-8.
At the moment I'm using Thunderbird on Windows. There are some
niggling irritations. I wonder if they can be worked around.
1. The 'Reply' button prominently displayed at the top of a
message sends an email - it does not reply to the group.
When I do 'reply to all', it posts to the group, but also emails
the person who wrote what I'm replying to. I'd rather only
post to group.
2. While I've managed to get a threaded display, I can't sort
by 'thread most recently updated'. I can 'show only new threads',
but that doesn't show threads where I've already read some of the
replies. I'm forced to scroll down looking for thread entries
which are underlined, and have new replies.
On 2/3/24 9:24 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
At the moment I'm using Thunderbird on Windows. There are some
niggling irritations. I wonder if they can be worked around.
1. The 'Reply' button prominently displayed at the top of a
message sends an email - it does not reply to the group.
When I do 'reply to all', it posts to the group, but also emails
the person who wrote what I'm replying to. I'd rather only
post to group.
Is there a plain "Followup" option? On my end, that posts to the group without generating emails, but I am on a mac.
2. While I've managed to get a threaded display, I can't sort
by 'thread most recently updated'. I can 'show only new threads',
but that doesn't show threads where I've already read some of the
replies. I'm forced to scroll down looking for thread entries
which are underlined, and have new replies.
I am also in this boat, but I haven't tried too hard to get around it.
If I do get around it, I will let you know.
On 1/26/24 10:22, -dsr- wrote:
On 2024-01-26, Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
I reactivated an eternal September account I set up many years ago, and
am currently trying Thunderbird. I'm not completely happy with it - if
there's a threaded tree display I haven't found it, and I worry that it
may not play nice with my gmail account (10Gb, 53k messages, which I
need to use from many devices, mostly by web).
Can people see this message?
Path:
uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
Yup.
-dsr-
I can see the reply from -dsr- but not the original message. I don't
know whether it is eternal-september, Thunderbird or both that is acting
up. I have to shut down Thunderbird every day in order to read in new messages. If I don't wait for a bit before restarting up, I get no new messages. If I wait, then I get new messages, but apparently not all of
them, like I said previously. I only see Cryptoengineer quoted in dsr's reply. This is aggravating.
Thunderbird is being difficult. This is to see if a new message shows
up, or not.
On 1/26/24 11:40, Dave wrote:
On 1/26/24 10:22, -dsr- wrote:
On 2024-01-26, Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
I reactivated an eternal September account I set up many years ago, and >>>> am currently trying Thunderbird. I'm not completely happy with it - if >>>> there's a threaded tree display I haven't found it, and I worry that it >>>> may not play nice with my gmail account (10Gb, 53k messages, which I
need to use from many devices, mostly by web).
Can people see this message?
Path:
uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
Yup.
-dsr-
I can see the reply from -dsr- but not the original message. I don't
know whether it is eternal-september, Thunderbird or both that is
acting up. I have to shut down Thunderbird every day in order to read
in new messages. If I don't wait for a bit before restarting up, I get
no new messages. If I wait, then I get new messages, but apparently
not all of them, like I said previously. I only see Cryptoengineer
quoted in dsr's reply. This is aggravating.
Thunderbird is being difficult. This is to see if a new message shows
up, or not.
1. The 'Reply' button prominently displayed at the top of a
message sends an email - it does not reply to the group.
When I do 'reply to all', it posts to the group, but also emails
the person who wrote what I'm replying to. I'd rather only
post to group.
On 04/02/2024 02:24, Cryptoengineer wrote:
On 2/3/2024 7:13 PM, Mike Van Pelt wrote:
In article <CESsN.67750$zqTf.38643@fx35.iad>,
Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote:
Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> writes:
Can people see this message?
Saw it.
Yes. I recommend xrn if you're using linux. supports threading,
very lightweight (Xaw toolkit).
I'm not familiar with xrn, but I am with trn. Also runs under
Linux. Given the name, I wouldn't be surprised if xrn was
pretty similar.
trn, at least, runs in "Linux Subsystem for Windows", which
is how I'm running it now. You can install it with a simple
"apt get". This might also be true of xrn.
A few times in the past, unsatisifed with gui forum software,
I've thought about what I would want in the ideal online forum
software. Every time, I didn't get far before I realized I was
re-inventing the most recent trn 4.0. (where "most recent" is
a couple decades old at this point.)
I built trn from source under Linux a few years ago, when we
were getting excited over the use of UTF-8.
At the moment I'm using Thunderbird on Windows. There are some
niggling irritations. I wonder if they can be worked around.
1. The 'Reply' button prominently displayed at the top of a
message sends an email - it does not reply to the group.
When I do 'reply to all', it posts to the group, but also emails
the person who wrote what I'm replying to. I'd rather only
post to group.
2. While I've managed to get a threaded display, I can't sort
by 'thread most recently updated'. I can 'show only new threads',
but that doesn't show threads where I've already read some of the
replies. I'm forced to scroll down looking for thread entries
which are underlined, and have new replies.
It's looking like I can press Back and Forward
keys (B, F) to step through the message list,
and Next and Previous for unread messages only.
But if I go past the last current message, then
suddenly I'm reading something from 2013.
Returning to 2024 isn't straightforward because
I'm using a Windows tablet in portrait orientation,
and a lot of keystrokes and other actions
are awkward.
On 2/4/2024 8:16 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
1. The 'Reply' button prominently displayed at the top of a
message sends an email - it does not reply to the group.
When I do 'reply to all', it posts to the group, but also emails
the person who wrote what I'm replying to. I'd rather only
post to group.
What you want to do is post a followup, not a reply. (I don't know what
is involved in doing this with Thunderbird but that is the terminology
used in the Usenet documentation).
Thanks, I figured that out.
Now, if I could just get it to display thread updated since I was last
on, without them being buried in pages of dead threads....
Yes, and this thread is threaded in Thunderbird on Windows 11.
My Inbox on TB threads but I do not want it to. That is a recent change.
On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 14:53:08 -0600, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, and this thread is threaded in Thunderbird on Windows 11.Yes I'm having that problem too though I'm running Thunderbird on Win
My Inbox on TB threads but I do not want it to. That is a recent change.
10.
After some initial hiccups, I'm pretty happy with TB on Win 10.
On 1/26/24 10:22, -dsr- wrote:
On 2024-01-26, Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
I reactivated an eternal September account I set up many years ago, and
am currently trying Thunderbird. I'm not completely happy with it - if
there's a threaded tree display I haven't found it, and I worry that it
may not play nice with my gmail account (10Gb, 53k messages, which I
need to use from many devices, mostly by web).
Can people see this message?
Path:
uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
Yup.
-dsr-
I can see the reply from -dsr- but not the original message. I don't
know whether it is eternal-september, Thunderbird or both that is acting
up. I have to shut down Thunderbird every day in order to read in new messages. If I don't wait for a bit before restarting up, I get no new messages. If I wait, then I get new messages, but apparently not all of
them, like I said previously. I only see Cryptoengineer quoted in dsr's reply. This is aggravating.
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