Has a page fallen out of this mass market paperback, which I just purchased >in 1978?
On 10 Feb 2024 15:44:21 -0000, jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll)
wrote:
Has a page fallen out of this mass market paperback, which I just purchased >>in 1978?
Surely we need more details.
Has a page fallen out of this mass market paperback, which I just purchased in 1978?
In article <uq85kl$mu6$1@panix2.panix.com>,
jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:
Has a page fallen out of this mass market paperback, which I just purchased >> in 1978?
I have quite a few mass market paperbacks that I bought in 1978 (my book
list includes 178 that were published that year). If I have a title (and >publisher), I could check to see if I have a copy and check it for the
page in question.
Has a page fallen out of this mass market paperback, which I just purchased in 1978?
I think I've been hit a couple of times
by a "signature", a binary bunch of pages
(16 or 32 or so), not strictly being
missing, but being the wrong pages.
But the right amount, usually. So you
get pages 1-16, say, then 33-48,
then 33-48 again. In Roger Zelazny's
_Today We Choose Faces_, the text was
opaque enough that I didn't notice
something was wrong with my book until
it started repeating. Once I got a
correct copy, it was not much more
intelligible.
Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@gmail.com> wrote:Try as I might, I could not finish Dahlgren. I actually didn't all that
I think I've been hit a couple of times
by a "signature", a binary bunch of pages
(16 or 32 or so), not strictly being
missing, but being the wrong pages.
But the right amount, usually. So you
get pages 1-16, say, then 33-48,
then 33-48 again. In Roger Zelazny's
_Today We Choose Faces_, the text was
opaque enough that I didn't notice
something was wrong with my book until
it started repeating. Once I got a
correct copy, it was not much more
intelligible.
The first time I read Dhalgren I thought this had happened and I
carefully went and checked all the pages. Then I reread it a second
time. On the third reading I figured out what was going on, though.
--scott
On 2/11/24 06:48, Scott Dorsey wrote:
Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@gmail.com> wrote:Try as I might, I could not finish Dahlgren. I actually didn't all that far into it. It rode in the back window of my old Toyota Corolla for years.
I think I've been hit a couple of times
by a "signature", a binary bunch of pages
(16 or 32 or so), not strictly being
missing, but being the wrong pages.
But the right amount, usually. So you
get pages 1-16, say, then 33-48,
then 33-48 again. In Roger Zelazny's
_Today We Choose Faces_, the text was
opaque enough that I didn't notice
something was wrong with my book until
it started repeating. Once I got a
correct copy, it was not much more
intelligible.
The first time I read Dhalgren I thought this had happened and I
carefully went and checked all the pages. Then I reread it a second
time. On the third reading I figured out what was going on, though.
--scott
On Sun, 11 Feb 2024, BCFD 36 wrote:
On 2/11/24 06:48, Scott Dorsey wrote:
Robert Carnegie<rja.carnegie@gmail.com> wrote:
I think I've been hit a couple of times
by a "signature", a binary bunch of pages
(16 or 32 or so), not strictly being
missing, but being the wrong pages.
But the right amount, usually. So you
get pages 1-16, say, then 33-48,
then 33-48 again. In Roger Zelazny's
_Today We Choose Faces_, the text was
opaque enough that I didn't notice
something was wrong with my book until
it started repeating. Once I got a
correct copy, it was not much more
intelligible.
The first time I read Dhalgren I thought this had happened and I carefully went and checked all the pages. Then I reread it a secondTry as I might, I could not finish Dahlgren. I actually didn't all that far into it. It rode in the back window of my old Toyota Corolla for years.
time. On the third reading I figured out what was going on, though. --scott
Thank you for sharing. I was also not able to get through Dhalgren.
Best regards,
Daniel
On Feb 11, 2024, D wrote
(in article<691efa70-7dc4-e146-b4d1-b86d838a3a73@example.net>):
On Sun, 11 Feb 2024, BCFD 36 wrote:
On 2/11/24 06:48, Scott Dorsey wrote:
Robert Carnegie<rja.carnegie@gmail.com> wrote:Try as I might, I could not finish Dahlgren. I actually didn't all that far >>> into it. It rode in the back window of my old Toyota Corolla for years.
I think I've been hit a couple of times
by a "signature", a binary bunch of pages
(16 or 32 or so), not strictly being
missing, but being the wrong pages.
But the right amount, usually. So you
get pages 1-16, say, then 33-48,
then 33-48 again. In Roger Zelazny's
_Today We Choose Faces_, the text was
opaque enough that I didn't notice
something was wrong with my book until
it started repeating. Once I got a
correct copy, it was not much more
intelligible.
The first time I read Dhalgren I thought this had happened and I
carefully went and checked all the pages. Then I reread it a second
time. On the third reading I figured out what was going on, though.
--scott
Thank you for sharing. I was also not able to get through Dhalgren.
Best regards,
Daniel
Dhalgren is one of those books like Joyce’s Ulysses or Pynchon’s Gravity’s Rainbow which many have tried but few have actually read. I got all the way to the shit-eating while travelling down the Rhine on a barge scene in Rainbow before bouncing it off a wall. (You think that I’m joking? Get a copy. It’s about two thirds of the way in, and is described in glowing, loving, detail. Off the wall and into the trash you go.) My memories of Ulysses is dimmer, mostly because it was such an excellent sleep aide. Dhalgren was much better. I still never finished it.
I find these types of books very fascinating! Can you learn to like them?=
Is the reason that you and I did not finish them, that we have not yet=20 >achieved the pinnacle of aesthetic development? Will we pick up the book=20 >in 10 years and love it?
Dhalgren is one of those books like Joyce’s Ulysses or Pynchon’s Gravity’s Rainbow which many have tried but few have actually read.
My memories
of Ulysses is dimmer, mostly because it was such an excellent sleep aide. Dhalgren was much better. I still never finished it.
On 2/12/2024 3:41 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
My friend in 6th grade was a huge fan of Dune, and I started to read Dune
and couldn't get into it. Years later (when I was out of grad school and
finally had time to think about something else again) I tried reading it
again and I thought it was wonderful. So yes, we might change and approach >> the book differently in the future.
--scott
I am not going to try The Lord Of The Rings again. Two bounces is
enough. But I loved The Hobbit.
On 2/12/2024 3:41 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
I find these types of books very fascinating! Can you learn to like them?= >>> Is the reason that you and I did not finish them, that we have not yet=20 >>> achieved the pinnacle of aesthetic development? Will we pick up the
book=20
in 10 years and love it?
I think so, but as I said, I had to read Dhalgren several times and think
about it a lot in order to figure out how the narrative actually worked.
My friend in 6th grade was a huge fan of Dune, and I started to read Dune
and couldn't get into it. Years later (when I was out of grad school and
finally had time to think about something else again) I tried reading it
again and I thought it was wonderful. So yes, we might change and approach >> the book differently in the future.
--scott
I am not going to try The Lord Of The Rings again. Two bounces is enough. But I loved The Hobbit.
Lynn
On 2024-02-11, WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
Dhalgren is one of those books like Joyce’s Ulysses or Pynchon’s
Gravity’s Rainbow which many have tried but few have actually read.
ah, "Ulysses" is just the prelude. *real* Joyce people actually finish >"Finnegans Wake"
--My memories
of Ulysses is dimmer, mostly because it was such an excellent sleep aide. >> Dhalgren was much better. I still never finished it.
Likewise, for both.
On Mon, 12 Feb 2024, Lynn McGuire wrote:
On 2/12/2024 3:41 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
I find these types of books very fascinating! Can you learn to like them?= >>>> Is the reason that you and I did not finish them, that we have not yet=20 >>>> achieved the pinnacle of aesthetic development? Will we pick up the
book=20
in 10 years and love it?
I think so, but as I said, I had to read Dhalgren several times and think >>> about it a lot in order to figure out how the narrative actually worked. >>>
My friend in 6th grade was a huge fan of Dune, and I started to read Dune >>> and couldn't get into it. Years later (when I was out of grad school and >>> finally had time to think about something else again) I tried reading it >>> again and I thought it was wonderful. So yes, we might change and approach >>> the book differently in the future.
--scott
I am not going to try The Lord Of The Rings again. Two bounces is enough. >> But I loved The Hobbit.
Lynn
Interesting! I like both Dune and Lord of the rings, so interesting to
hear that those two represent "problem books" for others.
On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 10:12:10 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Feb 2024, Lynn McGuire wrote:
On 2/12/2024 3:41 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
I find these types of books very fascinating! Can you learn to like
them?=
Is the reason that you and I did not finish them, that we have not
yet=20
achieved the pinnacle of aesthetic development? Will we pick up the
book=20
in 10 years and love it?
I think so, but as I said, I had to read Dhalgren several times and think >>> about it a lot in order to figure out how the narrative actually worked. >>>
My friend in 6th grade was a huge fan of Dune, and I started to read Dune >>> and couldn't get into it. Years later (when I was out of grad school and >>> finally had time to think about something else again) I tried reading it >>> again and I thought it was wonderful. So yes, we might change and
approach
the book differently in the future.
--scott
I am not going to try The Lord Of The Rings again. Two bounces is enough. >> But I loved The Hobbit.
Lynn
Interesting! I like both Dune and Lord of the rings, so interesting to
hear that those two represent "problem books" for others.
I bounced from LOTR the first time, but the second time I persisted
unitl the silliness abated and we left Bree. From that point it
worked.
In article <uf5nsi5ph9oohvd9dva176pgm6douovajo@4ax.com>,
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 10:12:10 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Feb 2024, Lynn McGuire wrote:
On 2/12/2024 3:41 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
I find these types of books very fascinating! Can you learn to like
them?=
Is the reason that you and I did not finish them, that we have not
yet=20
achieved the pinnacle of aesthetic development? Will we pick up the
book=20
in 10 years and love it?
I think so, but as I said, I had to read Dhalgren several times and think
about it a lot in order to figure out how the narrative actually worked. >> >>>
My friend in 6th grade was a huge fan of Dune, and I started to read Dune
and couldn't get into it. Years later (when I was out of grad school and
finally had time to think about something else again) I tried reading it >> >>> again and I thought it was wonderful. So yes, we might change and
approach
the book differently in the future.
--scott
I am not going to try The Lord Of The Rings again. Two bounces is enough.
But I loved The Hobbit.
Lynn
Interesting! I like both Dune and Lord of the rings, so interesting to
hear that those two represent "problem books" for others.
I bounced from LOTR the first time, but the second time I persisted
unitl the silliness abated and we left Bree. From that point it
worked.
I bounced from _LOTR_ the first time as well (I think it was the Council
of Elrond where I lost interest - a committee scene - I might had been
15 at the time).
In article <uf5nsi5ph9oohvd9dva176pgm6douovajo@4ax.com>,
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 10:12:10 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Feb 2024, Lynn McGuire wrote:
On 2/12/2024 3:41 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
I find these types of books very fascinating! Can you learn to like
them?=
Is the reason that you and I did not finish them, that we have not
yet=20
achieved the pinnacle of aesthetic development? Will we pick up the
book=20
in 10 years and love it?
I think so, but as I said, I had to read Dhalgren several times and think
about it a lot in order to figure out how the narrative actually worked. >> >>>
My friend in 6th grade was a huge fan of Dune, and I started to read Dune
and couldn't get into it. Years later (when I was out of grad school and
finally had time to think about something else again) I tried reading it >> >>> again and I thought it was wonderful. So yes, we might change and
approach
the book differently in the future.
--scott
I am not going to try The Lord Of The Rings again. Two bounces is enough.
But I loved The Hobbit.
Lynn
Interesting! I like both Dune and Lord of the rings, so interesting to
hear that those two represent "problem books" for others.
I bounced from LOTR the first time, but the second time I persisted
unitl the silliness abated and we left Bree. From that point it
worked.
I bounced from _LOTR_ the first time as well (I think it was the Council
of Elrond where I lost interest - a committee scene - I might had been
15 at the time).
On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 09:54:58 -0800, Robert Woodward
<robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:
In article <uf5nsi5ph9oohvd9dva176pgm6douovajo@4ax.com>,
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 10:12:10 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Feb 2024, Lynn McGuire wrote:
On 2/12/2024 3:41 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
I find these types of books very fascinating! Can you learn to like >>>>>>> them?=
Is the reason that you and I did not finish them, that we have not >>>>>>> yet=20
achieved the pinnacle of aesthetic development? Will we pick up the >>>>>>> book=20
in 10 years and love it?
I think so, but as I said, I had to read Dhalgren several times and think
about it a lot in order to figure out how the narrative actually worked. >>>>>>
My friend in 6th grade was a huge fan of Dune, and I started to read Dune
and couldn't get into it. Years later (when I was out of grad school and
finally had time to think about something else again) I tried reading it >>>>>> again and I thought it was wonderful. So yes, we might change and >>>>>> approach
the book differently in the future.
--scott
I am not going to try The Lord Of The Rings again. Two bounces is enough.
But I loved The Hobbit.
Lynn
Interesting! I like both Dune and Lord of the rings, so interesting to >>>> hear that those two represent "problem books" for others.
I bounced from LOTR the first time, but the second time I persisted
unitl the silliness abated and we left Bree. From that point it
worked.
I bounced from _LOTR_ the first time as well (I think it was the Council
of Elrond where I lost interest - a committee scene - I might had been
15 at the time).
<oops! forgot to add this -- lots of exposition.>
<a lot of exposition.> Which is probably why, the movie, it is the
Shouting Match of Elrond, which is degenerating into the Bar Brawl of
Elrond when Frodo speaks up.
On 2/14/2024 9:13 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 09:54:58 -0800, Robert Woodward
<robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:
In article <uf5nsi5ph9oohvd9dva176pgm6douovajo@4ax.com>,
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 10:12:10 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Feb 2024, Lynn McGuire wrote:
On 2/12/2024 3:41 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
I find these types of books very fascinating! Can you learn to like >>>>>>>> them?=
Is the reason that you and I did not finish them, that we have not >>>>>>>> yet=20
achieved the pinnacle of aesthetic development? Will we pick up the >>>>>>>> book=20
in 10 years and love it?
I think so, but as I said, I had to read Dhalgren several times and think
about it a lot in order to figure out how the narrative actually worked.
My friend in 6th grade was a huge fan of Dune, and I started to read Dune
and couldn't get into it. Years later (when I was out of grad school and
finally had time to think about something else again) I tried reading it
again and I thought it was wonderful. So yes, we might change and >>>>>>> approach
the book differently in the future.
--scott
I am not going to try The Lord Of The Rings again. Two bounces is enough.
But I loved The Hobbit.
Lynn
Interesting! I like both Dune and Lord of the rings, so interesting to >>>>> hear that those two represent "problem books" for others.
I bounced from LOTR the first time, but the second time I persisted
unitl the silliness abated and we left Bree. From that point it
worked.
I bounced from _LOTR_ the first time as well (I think it was the Council >>> of Elrond where I lost interest - a committee scene - I might had been
15 at the time).
<oops! forgot to add this -- lots of exposition.>
<a lot of exposition.> Which is probably why, the movie, it is the
Shouting Match of Elrond, which is degenerating into the Bar Brawl of
Elrond when Frodo speaks up.
I never had any problem reading LoTR in my teens. I read the entire
Baum OZ series as a child too along with a significant number of other
books. I had access my mother's entire childhood library and _her_
mother's childhood library and read a lot.
In article <uqivgv$2ol9l$1@dont-email.me>,
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
On 2/14/2024 9:13 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 09:54:58 -0800, Robert Woodward
<robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:
In article <uf5nsi5ph9oohvd9dva176pgm6douovajo@4ax.com>,
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 10:12:10 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Feb 2024, Lynn McGuire wrote:
On 2/12/2024 3:41 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
I find these types of books very fascinating! Can you learn to like >>>>>>>>> them?=
Is the reason that you and I did not finish them, that we have not >>>>>>>>> yet=20
achieved the pinnacle of aesthetic development? Will we pick up the >>>>>>>>> book=20
in 10 years and love it?
I think so, but as I said, I had to read Dhalgren several times and think
about it a lot in order to figure out how the narrative actually worked.
My friend in 6th grade was a huge fan of Dune, and I started to read Dune
and couldn't get into it. Years later (when I was out of grad school and
finally had time to think about something else again) I tried reading it
again and I thought it was wonderful. So yes, we might change and >>>>>>>> approach
the book differently in the future.
--scott
I am not going to try The Lord Of The Rings again. Two bounces is enough.
But I loved The Hobbit.
Lynn
Interesting! I like both Dune and Lord of the rings, so interesting to >>>>>> hear that those two represent "problem books" for others.
I bounced from LOTR the first time, but the second time I persisted
unitl the silliness abated and we left Bree. From that point it
worked.
I bounced from _LOTR_ the first time as well (I think it was the Council >>>> of Elrond where I lost interest - a committee scene - I might had been >>>> 15 at the time).
<oops! forgot to add this -- lots of exposition.>
<a lot of exposition.> Which is probably why, the movie, it is the
Shouting Match of Elrond, which is degenerating into the Bar Brawl of
Elrond when Frodo speaks up.
I never had any problem reading LoTR in my teens. I read the entire
Baum OZ series as a child too along with a significant number of other
books. I had access my mother's entire childhood library and _her_
mother's childhood library and read a lot.
Now "OZ" I bounced off of many times. Finally forced myself to finish
it a few years ago, but man it was a slog.
On 2/14/2024 10:27 AM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
In article <uqivgv$2ol9l$1@dont-email.me>,and think
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
On 2/14/2024 9:13 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 09:54:58 -0800, Robert Woodward
<robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:
In article <uf5nsi5ph9oohvd9dva176pgm6douovajo@4ax.com>,
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 10:12:10 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Feb 2024, Lynn McGuire wrote:
On 2/12/2024 3:41 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
I find these types of books very fascinating! Can you learn to like >>>>>>>>>> them?=
Is the reason that you and I did not finish them, that we have not >>>>>>>>>> yet=20
achieved the pinnacle of aesthetic development? Will we pick up the >>>>>>>>>> book=20
in 10 years and love it?
I think so, but as I said, I had to read Dhalgren several times
actually worked.about it a lot in order to figure out how the narrative
read Dune
My friend in 6th grade was a huge fan of Dune, and I started to
is enough.and couldn't get into it. Years later (when I was out of grad >school and
finally had time to think about something else again) I tried >reading it
again and I thought it was wonderful. So yes, we might change and >>>>>>>>> approach
the book differently in the future.
--scott
I am not going to try The Lord Of The Rings again. Two bounces
But I loved The Hobbit.
Lynn
Interesting! I like both Dune and Lord of the rings, so interesting to >>>>>>> hear that those two represent "problem books" for others.
I bounced from LOTR the first time, but the second time I persisted >>>>>> unitl the silliness abated and we left Bree. From that point it
worked.
I bounced from _LOTR_ the first time as well (I think it was the Council >>>>> of Elrond where I lost interest - a committee scene - I might had been >>>>> 15 at the time).
<oops! forgot to add this -- lots of exposition.>
<a lot of exposition.> Which is probably why, the movie, it is the
Shouting Match of Elrond, which is degenerating into the Bar Brawl of
Elrond when Frodo speaks up.
I never had any problem reading LoTR in my teens. I read the entire
Baum OZ series as a child too along with a significant number of other
books. I had access my mother's entire childhood library and _her_
mother's childhood library and read a lot.
Now "OZ" I bounced off of many times. Finally forced myself to finish
it a few years ago, but man it was a slog.
Do you remember why it was such a slog for you?
--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky >dirty old man.
On 14/02/2024 21:23, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
In article <uqj52g$2popm$1@dont-email.me>,
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
On 2/14/2024 10:27 AM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
In article <uqivgv$2ol9l$1@dont-email.me>,and think
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
On 2/14/2024 9:13 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 09:54:58 -0800, Robert Woodward
<robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:
In article <uf5nsi5ph9oohvd9dva176pgm6douovajo@4ax.com>,
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 10:12:10 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>
On Mon, 12 Feb 2024, Lynn McGuire wrote:
On 2/12/2024 3:41 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
I find these types of books very fascinating! Can you learn to like
them?=
Is the reason that you and I did not finish them, that we have not >>>>>>>>>>>> yet=20
achieved the pinnacle of aesthetic development? Will we pick up the
book=20
in 10 years and love it?
I think so, but as I said, I had to read Dhalgren several times
actually worked.about it a lot in order to figure out how the narrative
read Dune
My friend in 6th grade was a huge fan of Dune, and I started to
school andand couldn't get into it. Years later (when I was out of grad
reading itfinally had time to think about something else again) I tried
is enough.again and I thought it was wonderful. So yes, we might change and >>>>>>>>>>> approach
the book differently in the future.
--scott
I am not going to try The Lord Of The Rings again. Two bounces
But I loved The Hobbit.
Lynn
Interesting! I like both Dune and Lord of the rings, so interesting to
hear that those two represent "problem books" for others.
I bounced from LOTR the first time, but the second time I persisted >>>>>>>> unitl the silliness abated and we left Bree. From that point it >>>>>>>> worked.
I bounced from _LOTR_ the first time as well (I think it was the Council
of Elrond where I lost interest - a committee scene - I might had been >>>>>>> 15 at the time).
<oops! forgot to add this -- lots of exposition.>
<a lot of exposition.> Which is probably why, the movie, it is the >>>>>> Shouting Match of Elrond, which is degenerating into the Bar Brawl of >>>>>> Elrond when Frodo speaks up.
I never had any problem reading LoTR in my teens. I read the entire >>>>> Baum OZ series as a child too along with a significant number of other >>>>> books. I had access my mother's entire childhood library and _her_
mother's childhood library and read a lot.
Now "OZ" I bounced off of many times. Finally forced myself to finish >>>> it a few years ago, but man it was a slog.
Do you remember why it was such a slog for you?
--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky >>> dirty old man.
Hard to say as I've already forgotten a lot of it, but some of it
was that everything was just so matter-of-fact for Dorothy. I never
felt she really reacted to anything farfetched happening, and never
felt she was in any danger.
The first book... If you know some of
the plot before you get to it, which after
all is written into modern American culture,
then you don't get the effect of surprise.
It was written for children, of course.
Dorothy meets threats. But she also has
friends, and assets, that protect her
against, say, casual highwaymen. I don't
remember myself if there are highwaymen.
There are the Hammer-Heads as a hazard
to travelers. They're not in the film.
Oz is not a safe place whien Dorothy arrives.
And getting there was a traumatic experience
in itself.
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