• Dune 2

    From Scott Lurndal@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 6 18:04:21 2024
    Perhaps a bit off-topic for .written, but I went to see
    Dune 2 last weekend. I quite enjoyed it (orders of magnitude
    better than the the 1984 version with Sting, and better than
    the 2000 miniseries).

    It was an adept telling of the second half of the first novel,
    terminating with the emperor kneeling to Muad'dib.

    The best part was Paul's first worm-ride (done as a practical
    effect rather than visual magic), but the rest of the film
    (aside the modern cinemetographic tendancy to poor contrast
    and lighting - not as bad as the first film, but still)
    was excellent.

    The only sour note was during the previews before the film,
    one of which I think should not have been made in this time
    and place, and which I hope bombs at the box office when it
    premiers.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Scott Lurndal on Wed Mar 6 19:08:11 2024
    On Wed, 6 Mar 2024, Scott Lurndal wrote:

    Perhaps a bit off-topic for .written, but I went to see
    Dune 2 last weekend. I quite enjoyed it (orders of magnitude
    better than the the 1984 version with Sting, and better than
    the 2000 miniseries).

    It was an adept telling of the second half of the first novel,
    terminating with the emperor kneeling to Muad'dib.

    The best part was Paul's first worm-ride (done as a practical
    effect rather than visual magic), but the rest of the film
    (aside the modern cinemetographic tendancy to poor contrast
    and lighting - not as bad as the first film, but still)
    was excellent.

    The only sour note was during the previews before the film,
    one of which I think should not have been made in this time
    and place, and which I hope bombs at the box office when it
    premiers.


    Thank you for the review. I agree, I think the series so far is way better
    than the 1984 and 2000 ones and will look forward to see nr 2 in a few
    weeks or so.

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  • From John@21:1/5 to Scott Lurndal on Wed Mar 6 20:38:10 2024
    scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
    The only sour note was during the previews before the film,
    one of which I think should not have been made in this time
    and place, and which I hope bombs at the box office when it
    premiers.

    I agree, nobody wanted *another* Ghostbusters movie.

    john

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  • From Scott Lurndal@21:1/5 to John on Wed Mar 6 20:49:45 2024
    John <john@building-m.simplistic-anti-spam-measure.net> writes: >scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
    The only sour note was during the previews before the film,
    one of which I think should not have been made in this time
    and place, and which I hope bombs at the box office when it
    premiers.

    I agree, nobody wanted *another* Ghostbusters movie.

    Well, that's minor compared to the one I was obliquely referring
    to, and which I have no desire to promote.

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  • From Scott Lurndal@21:1/5 to John on Wed Mar 6 22:36:06 2024
    John <john@building-m.simplistic-anti-spam-measure.net> writes: >scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:

    John <john@building-m.simplistic-anti-spam-measure.net> writes: >>>scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
    The only sour note was during the previews before the film,
    one of which I think should not have been made in this time
    and place, and which I hope bombs at the box office when it
    premiers.

    I agree, nobody wanted *another* Ghostbusters movie.

    Well, that's minor compared to the one I was obliquely referring
    to, and which I have no desire to promote.

    I know, I was making fun of you for complaining about a movie whose
    existence you consider so bad that you daren't speak its name... like
    what are we supposed to take from that? What's it add to this
    discussion? In short, who gives a shit?

    someone, I hope.

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  • From John@21:1/5 to Scott Lurndal on Wed Mar 6 22:21:52 2024
    scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:

    John <john@building-m.simplistic-anti-spam-measure.net> writes:
    scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
    The only sour note was during the previews before the film,
    one of which I think should not have been made in this time
    and place, and which I hope bombs at the box office when it
    premiers.

    I agree, nobody wanted *another* Ghostbusters movie.

    Well, that's minor compared to the one I was obliquely referring
    to, and which I have no desire to promote.

    I know, I was making fun of you for complaining about a movie whose
    existence you consider so bad that you daren't speak its name... like
    what are we supposed to take from that? What's it add to this
    discussion? In short, who gives a shit?

    john

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to john@building-m.simplistic-anti-spa on Wed Mar 6 23:54:48 2024
    In article <86sf1357cv.fsf@building-m.net>,
    John <john@building-m.simplistic-anti-spam-measure.net> wrote: >scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:

    John <john@building-m.simplistic-anti-spam-measure.net> writes: >>>scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
    The only sour note was during the previews before the film,
    one of which I think should not have been made in this time
    and place, and which I hope bombs at the box office when it
    premiers.

    I agree, nobody wanted *another* Ghostbusters movie.

    Well, that's minor compared to the one I was obliquely referring
    to, and which I have no desire to promote.

    I know, I was making fun of you for complaining about a movie whose
    existence you consider so bad that you daren't speak its name... like
    what are we supposed to take from that? What's it add to this
    discussion? In short, who gives a shit?

    I have no idea what this film is but, really, can it be any worse than
    another Ghostbusters film? Can anything be any worse than another Ghostbusters film?
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From Ted Nolan @21:1/5 to Scott Dorsey on Thu Mar 7 01:32:53 2024
    In article <usavo8$1cp$1@panix2.panix.com>,
    Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
    In article <86sf1357cv.fsf@building-m.net>,
    John <john@building-m.simplistic-anti-spam-measure.net> wrote: >>scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:

    John <john@building-m.simplistic-anti-spam-measure.net> writes: >>>>scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
    The only sour note was during the previews before the film,
    one of which I think should not have been made in this time
    and place, and which I hope bombs at the box office when it
    premiers.

    I agree, nobody wanted *another* Ghostbusters movie.

    Well, that's minor compared to the one I was obliquely referring
    to, and which I have no desire to promote.

    I know, I was making fun of you for complaining about a movie whose >>existence you consider so bad that you daren't speak its name... like
    what are we supposed to take from that? What's it add to this
    discussion? In short, who gives a shit?

    I have no idea what this film is but, really, can it be any worse than >another Ghostbusters film? Can anything be any worse than another Ghostbusters
    film?
    --scott

    Presumably, as the last was pretty entertaining.
    --
    columbiaclosings.com
    What's not in Columbia anymore..

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  • From Jay E. Morris@21:1/5 to Lynn McGuire on Wed Mar 6 20:16:52 2024
    On 3/6/2024 6:17 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 3/6/2024 5:54 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    In article <86sf1357cv.fsf@building-m.net>,
    John  <john@building-m.simplistic-anti-spam-measure.net> wrote:
    scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:

    John <john@building-m.simplistic-anti-spam-measure.net> writes:
    scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
    The only sour note was during the previews before the film,
    one of which I think should not have been made in this time
    and place, and which I hope bombs at the box office when it
    premiers.

    I agree, nobody wanted *another* Ghostbusters movie.

    Well, that's minor compared to the one I was obliquely referring
    to, and which I have no desire to promote.

    I know, I was making fun of you for complaining about a movie whose
    existence you consider so bad that you daren't speak its name... like
    what are we supposed to take from that? What's it add to this
    discussion? In short, who gives a shit?

    I have no idea what this film is but, really, can it be any worse than
    another Ghostbusters film?  Can anything be any worse than another
    Ghostbusters
    film?
    --scott

    He is complaining about "Civil War".
       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA4wVhs3HC0

    Lynn


    Thanks. I had no idea since that preview wasn't shown when I went.

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to Scott Dorsey on Thu Mar 7 08:35:08 2024
    On 6 Mar 2024 23:54:48 -0000, kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

    In article <86sf1357cv.fsf@building-m.net>,
    John <john@building-m.simplistic-anti-spam-measure.net> wrote: >>scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:

    John <john@building-m.simplistic-anti-spam-measure.net> writes: >>>>scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
    The only sour note was during the previews before the film,
    one of which I think should not have been made in this time
    and place, and which I hope bombs at the box office when it
    premiers.

    I agree, nobody wanted *another* Ghostbusters movie.

    Well, that's minor compared to the one I was obliquely referring
    to, and which I have no desire to promote.

    I know, I was making fun of you for complaining about a movie whose >>existence you consider so bad that you daren't speak its name... like
    what are we supposed to take from that? What's it add to this
    discussion? In short, who gives a shit?

    I have no idea what this film is but, really, can it be any worse than >another Ghostbusters film? Can anything be any worse than another Ghostbusters
    film?

    There are a lot of ... imaginative ... filmmakers out there.

    Be careful what you wish for! Or even ask about!
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 7 08:37:30 2024
    On 7 Mar 2024 01:32:53 GMT, ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>)
    wrote:

    In article <usavo8$1cp$1@panix2.panix.com>,
    Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
    In article <86sf1357cv.fsf@building-m.net>,
    John <john@building-m.simplistic-anti-spam-measure.net> wrote: >>>scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:

    John <john@building-m.simplistic-anti-spam-measure.net> writes: >>>>>scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
    The only sour note was during the previews before the film,
    one of which I think should not have been made in this time
    and place, and which I hope bombs at the box office when it
    premiers.

    I agree, nobody wanted *another* Ghostbusters movie.

    Well, that's minor compared to the one I was obliquely referring
    to, and which I have no desire to promote.

    I know, I was making fun of you for complaining about a movie whose >>>existence you consider so bad that you daren't speak its name... like >>>what are we supposed to take from that? What's it add to this
    discussion? In short, who gives a shit?

    I have no idea what this film is but, really, can it be any worse than >>another Ghostbusters film? Can anything be any worse than another Ghostbusters
    film?
    --scott

    Presumably, as the last was pretty entertaining.

    If you mean the one with the grandkids -- yes, actually, it was.

    But, for me, it failed when the Originals had to show up to save the
    day.

    If I'm going to watch a film about kid Ghostbusters, I want it to be
    about their triumph, not their rescue.

    It was nice to see the originals once again, I must admit.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 7 08:48:22 2024
    On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 18:04:21 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
    wrote:

    Perhaps a bit off-topic for .written, but I went to see
    Dune 2 last weekend. I quite enjoyed it (orders of magnitude
    better than the the 1984 version with Sting, and better than
    the 2000 miniseries).

    It was an adept telling of the second half of the first novel,
    terminating with the emperor kneeling to Muad'dib.

    The best part was Paul's first worm-ride (done as a practical
    effect rather than visual magic), but the rest of the film
    (aside the modern cinemetographic tendancy to poor contrast
    and lighting - not as bad as the first film, but still)
    was excellent.

    I'll be seeing it when I can rent it from Amazon for a reasonable
    price. Or it goes to Prime or Netflix.

    I'm not clear on the "practical effect rather than visual magic".
    Surely they didn't find a Worm and use it! Did they construct a
    complete, full-size animatronic Worm? Or was it all of three inches
    long?

    The 1984 Worm looked pretty "practical" to me so, if it wasn't, it was well-done.

    One of the special features on the /Wild Wild West/ DVD (I went
    through two of them and no disc versions appear to be available)
    mentioned that they actually constructed one of the spider's legs. Out
    of iron, as shown in the film. It was so heavy that it was clear that
    such a spider simply couldn't have been built -- in 1869.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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  • From Ted Nolan @21:1/5 to psperson@old.netcom.invalid on Thu Mar 7 16:58:27 2024
    In article <o6rjui547t7vu27pc112rsfllh0gm3gvg2@4ax.com>,
    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
    On 7 Mar 2024 01:32:53 GMT, ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>)
    wrote:

    In article <usavo8$1cp$1@panix2.panix.com>,
    Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
    In article <86sf1357cv.fsf@building-m.net>,
    John <john@building-m.simplistic-anti-spam-measure.net> wrote: >>>>scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:

    John <john@building-m.simplistic-anti-spam-measure.net> writes: >>>>>>scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
    The only sour note was during the previews before the film,
    one of which I think should not have been made in this time
    and place, and which I hope bombs at the box office when it
    premiers.

    I agree, nobody wanted *another* Ghostbusters movie.

    Well, that's minor compared to the one I was obliquely referring
    to, and which I have no desire to promote.

    I know, I was making fun of you for complaining about a movie whose >>>>existence you consider so bad that you daren't speak its name... like >>>>what are we supposed to take from that? What's it add to this >>>>discussion? In short, who gives a shit?

    I have no idea what this film is but, really, can it be any worse than >>>another Ghostbusters film? Can anything be any worse than another >Ghostbusters
    film?
    --scott

    Presumably, as the last was pretty entertaining.

    If you mean the one with the grandkids -- yes, actually, it was.

    Yeah, that one. As PitchMeeting mentioned, the teen boy was kind of
    useless, but I really liked the grandaughter.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeDx92783us
    --
    columbiaclosings.com
    What's not in Columbia anymore..

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  • From Scott Lurndal@21:1/5 to Paul S Person on Thu Mar 7 17:06:40 2024
    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
    On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 18:04:21 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
    wrote:

    Perhaps a bit off-topic for .written, but I went to see
    Dune 2 last weekend. I quite enjoyed it (orders of magnitude
    better than the the 1984 version with Sting, and better than
    the 2000 miniseries).

    It was an adept telling of the second half of the first novel,
    terminating with the emperor kneeling to Muad'dib.

    The best part was Paul's first worm-ride (done as a practical
    effect rather than visual magic), but the rest of the film
    (aside the modern cinemetographic tendancy to poor contrast
    and lighting - not as bad as the first film, but still)
    was excellent.

    I'll be seeing it when I can rent it from Amazon for a reasonable
    price. Or it goes to Prime or Netflix.

    I'm not clear on the "practical effect rather than visual magic".
    Surely they didn't find a Worm and use it! Did they construct a
    complete, full-size animatronic Worm? Or was it all of three inches
    long?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvBqDnNJKno

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  • From Ted Nolan @21:1/5 to wthyde1953@gmail.com on Thu Mar 7 23:11:50 2024
    In article <usdevf$19frs$1@dont-email.me>,
    William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:
    Jay E. Morris wrote:
    On 3/6/2024 6:17 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:


    He is complaining about "Civil War".
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA4wVhs3HC0


    Normally I would click on that link.

    But after recent experience, I fear that my normal selection of videos
    on music, chess, SF, History, Mathematics, Science would be replaced by
    more whiny neckbeard guys complaining about Abraham Lincoln.

    And I have more than enough of those.

    Oh for the days when you could tell youtube that you did not want a
    certain video to influence your selections. What a paradise we lived
    in long ago in 2016! You try telling that to kids today!



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8fJPvXyfc0

    Of course you'll probably get more, but that's not a bad thing for Ryan George --
    columbiaclosings.com
    What's not in Columbia anymore..

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  • From Christian Weisgerber@21:1/5 to William Hyde on Fri Mar 8 00:16:42 2024
    On 2024-03-07, William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:

    He is complaining about "Civil War".
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA4wVhs3HC0

    Normally I would click on that link.

    But after recent experience, I fear that my normal selection of videos
    on music, chess, SF, History, Mathematics, Science would be replaced by
    more whiny neckbeard guys complaining about Abraham Lincoln.

    That's why you open a new browser window in private mode to watch
    random YouTube videos.

    --
    Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de

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  • From Default User@21:1/5 to William Hyde on Fri Mar 8 04:20:37 2024
    William Hyde wrote:

    Jay E. Morris wrote:
    On 3/6/2024 6:17 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:


    He is complaining about "Civil War".
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA4wVhs3HC0


    Normally I would click on that link.

    But after recent experience, I fear that my normal selection of
    videos on music, chess, SF, History, Mathematics, Science would be
    replaced by more whiny neckbeard guys complaining about Abraham
    Lincoln.

    Two ways to deal with that.

    1. Open the video in a private window. This won't work if you need to
    be signed in to see it.

    2. Go to your history and delete that video from it.


    Brian

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  • From Robert Woodward@21:1/5 to William Hyde on Thu Mar 7 21:41:55 2024
    In article <usdevf$19frs$1@dont-email.me>,
    William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:

    Jay E. Morris wrote:
    On 3/6/2024 6:17 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:


    He is complaining about "Civil War".
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA4wVhs3HC0


    Normally I would click on that link.

    But after recent experience, I fear that my normal selection of videos
    on music, chess, SF, History, Mathematics, Science would be replaced by
    more whiny neckbeard guys complaining about Abraham Lincoln.


    It is a movie soon to be released; a very stupid one (that has little to
    do with Abraham Lincoln), I believe that there is a Wikipedia article on
    it.

    --
    "We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
    Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_. —-----------------------------------------------------
    Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to lynnmcguire5@gmail.com on Fri Mar 8 13:52:50 2024
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 3/6/2024 5:54 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:

    I have no idea what this film is but, really, can it be any worse than
    another Ghostbusters film? Can anything be any worse than another Ghostbusters
    film?

    He is complaining about "Civil War".
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA4wVhs3HC0

    Okay, yeah, that could be worse than another Ghostbusters film.

    When I was booking films for Arisia, one of the film distributors tried to interest me in some new blockbuster film. "What is it about?" I asked.
    "It's about things blowing up," he answered. And it was.
    --scott


    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to lcraver@home.ca on Sun Mar 17 19:04:37 2024
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.movies

    The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 16:40:10 -0400, Tony Nance <tnusenet17@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    I don't know why I then went on to read Chapterhouse: Dune, but I
    did, and it was not much better. At this remove, I don't remember a
    whole lot of either one - my sense is that they weren't "throw at the
    wall" bad, but they were really disappointing.

    Is that one of those "Dune" books written by Herbert's son and a ghost >writer?

    It claims to have been written by Frank Herbert. I would have hoped a
    ghost writer would have done better.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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