I remember the original Planet of the Apes movie quite well, despite
having only seen it on teleevision. That movie was justly praised...
and then its many sequels were justly execrated.
Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes is the fourth movie in the reboot of
the Planet of the Apes series, which started from a different basic
premise than the originals.
A friend of mine took me with him to see the movie, out of gratitude
for my having heled him with his computer.
I enjoyed this movie. It's been praised for lovable chasracters and
lush visual effects; that praise is spot on. It has... a twist ending
that naturally I must not spoil.
But one thing I can speak of, since it is present right from the
beginning of this movie: it has achieved something rare, making it >reminiscent of the movie Avatar. It's a blockbuster movie that was
actually _improved_ by being "woke", a characteristic which has ruined >several other movies.
On Tue, 14 May 2024 08:35:13 -0600, John Savard ><quadibloc@servername.invalid> wrote:
I saw it [The original. ed] in the Army. One of the sequels had some sort of rocket
launch at the end. It didn't happen, which is good because it would
have destroyed the Earth or the last refuge of Man or something (my
memory is vague). I saw this in a theater that used carbon-arc
lighting for its projector. The carbon rod [1] had a wet spot at this
point, so we never got to see how it was stopped. A Babylon 5 movie
(ie, not part of the series) did the same thing when I saw it on TV,
but that was probably a really bad DVD effect (ie, the dummies who
scanned it didn't catch it when their equipment failed).
[1] If there were two, then one of them.
I saw it in the Army. One of the sequels had some sort of rocket
launch at the end. It didn't happen, which is good because it would
have destroyed the Earth or the last refuge of Man or something (my
memory is vague).
I remember the original Planet of the Apes movie quite well, despite
having only seen it on teleevision. That movie was justly praised...
and then its many sequels were justly execrated.
... Charleston Heston ...
... Charleston Heson't
John Savard <quadibloc@servername.invalid> wrote:
I remember the original Planet of the Apes movie quite well, despite
having only seen it on teleevision. That movie was justly praised...
and then its many sequels were justly execrated.
You should read the book. It's also good, but different.
--scott
In article <v20n99$d80$1@panix2.panix.com>,
Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
John Savard <quadibloc@servername.invalid> wrote:
I remember the original Planet of the Apes movie quite well, despite >>>having only seen it on teleevision. That movie was justly praised...
and then its many sequels were justly execrated.
You should read the book. It's also good, but different.
Fun fact: _Bridge On The River Kwai_, same author..
There are two, and "wet spot" as the cause is
incredibly unlikely given the temperature
of the arc. They're solid carbon (think old
carbon battery electrode) rods coated in copper.
The more likely cause would be a fault in the
mechanism that maintains a consistent gap
between the electrodes as they burn up (which
the operator needs to adjust to the burn rate
for the particular carbons being used).
Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote:
There are two, and "wet spot" as the cause is
incredibly unlikely given the temperature
of the arc. They're solid carbon (think old
carbon battery electrode) rods coated in copper.
When carbons are kept in the damp, they get absorb moisture... and then they >shatter when they get hot. A competent projectionist can swap it out in
a matter of seconds without even stopping the film.
The more likely cause would be a fault in the
mechanism that maintains a consistent gap
between the electrodes as they burn up (which
the operator needs to adjust to the burn rate
for the particular carbons being used).
It doesn't really do that very well (at least on typical lamphouses) so
it always requires the projectionist to spend a little time fiddling with
the rheostat that runs the motor to keep things stable without much >tinkering. If the gap is getting too wide or too narrow you can tell
pretty easily on screen without even having to look at the sight glass
on the lamphouse. But you have to be paying attention.
My experience with AFEES projectionists is they were all pretty good
and pretty careful (and much better than the Navy guys). And the selections >at the AFEES theatres were great and included films like Godzilla On
Monster Island, The Devil Bat, and Au Pair Girls. I spent much of my >childhood hanging out in the booths at AFEES theatres.
--scott
In article <fc174jp5kh4fkmsflooboipulm8qb10e83@4ax.com>,
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
I saw it in the Army. One of the sequels had some sort of rocket
launch at the end. It didn't happen, which is good because it would
have destroyed the Earth or the last refuge of Man or something (my
memory is vague).
If this was the second movie ("Escape From the Planet of the Apes"),
and had Charleston Heston doing pretty much a cameo at the end, well
...
spoilers
...
...
...
...
...
They didn't stop it. Charleston Heson't character set off the
cobalt bomb. Somehow, Zira and Cornelius and one other chimp
had managed to get themselved launched back to Earth. This
wasn't explained, considering their tech level, but Cornelius
(Roddy McDowell) said he saw the Earth melt.
My favorite rendition of this ending is Mad Magazine's.
"Are you going to set off the bomb?"
"No, I'm calling my agent, he's got to get me out of
this cockamamie series!"
"You mean there are more sequels?!?"
"YES! And anyone surviving this one is IN IT!!"
"Here, let me press that button!"
Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote:
There are two, and "wet spot" as the cause is
incredibly unlikely given the temperature
of the arc. They're solid carbon (think old
carbon battery electrode) rods coated in copper.
When carbons are kept in the damp, they get absorb moisture... and then they >shatter when they get hot. A competent projectionist can swap it out in
a matter of seconds without even stopping the film.
The more likely cause would be a fault in the
mechanism that maintains a consistent gap
between the electrodes as they burn up (which
the operator needs to adjust to the burn rate
for the particular carbons being used).
It doesn't really do that very well (at least on typical lamphouses) so
it always requires the projectionist to spend a little time fiddling with
the rheostat that runs the motor to keep things stable without much >tinkering. If the gap is getting too wide or too narrow you can tell
pretty easily on screen without even having to look at the sight glass
on the lamphouse. But you have to be paying attention.
My experience with AFEES projectionists is they were all pretty good
and pretty careful (and much better than the Navy guys). And the selections >at the AFEES theatres were great and included films like Godzilla On
Monster Island, The Devil Bat, and Au Pair Girls. I spent much of my >childhood hanging out in the booths at AFEES theatres.
John Savard <quadibloc@servername.invalid> wrote:
I remember the original Planet of the Apes movie quite well, despite
having only seen it on teleevision. That movie was justly praised...
and then its many sequels were justly execrated.
You should read the book. It's also good, but different.
On 15 May 2024 00:16:41 -0000, kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote:
There are two, and "wet spot" as the cause is
incredibly unlikely given the temperature
of the arc. They're solid carbon (think old
carbon battery electrode) rods coated in copper.
When carbons are kept in the damp, they get absorb moisture... and then they >> shatter when they get hot. A competent projectionist can swap it out in
a matter of seconds without even stopping the film.
Not where we were. The story we were told was that they didn't have
that many, so they had to use what they had and do the best they
could.
We did eventually get a new! Base Theater. For its inaugural film it
showed /The Hindenberg/ (judging from IMDb, this as a pre-release
version shown to the troops to see how it went down).
It was anamorphic widescreen. The projectionist forgot to use the
right lens. The Base Commander was in the audience. He was not happy.
John Savard <quadibloc@servername.invalid> wrote:
I remember the original Planet of the Apes movie quite well, despite
having only seen it on teleevision. That movie was justly praised...
and then its many sequels were justly execrated.
You should read the book. It's also good, but different.
On 14/05/2024 09.35, John Savard wrote:
I enjoyed this movie. It's been praised for lovable chasracters and
lush visual effects; that praise is spot on. It has... a twist ending
that naturally I must not spoil.
Does it involve the Statue of Liberty?
On 5/15/2024 9:52 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
On 15 May 2024 00:16:41 -0000, kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:So it went down like a le(a)d zeppelin?
Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote:
There are two, and "wet spot" as the cause is
incredibly unlikely given the temperature
of the arc. They're solid carbon (think old
carbon battery electrode) rods coated in copper.
When carbons are kept in the damp, they get absorb moisture... and then they
shatter when they get hot. A competent projectionist can swap it out in >>> a matter of seconds without even stopping the film.
Not where we were. The story we were told was that they didn't have
that many, so they had to use what they had and do the best they
could.
We did eventually get a new! Base Theater. For its inaugural film it
showed /The Hindenberg/ (judging from IMDb, this as a pre-release
version shown to the troops to see how it went down).
It was anamorphic widescreen. The projectionist forgot to use the
right lens. The Base Commander was in the audience. He was not happy.
I remember the original Planet of the Apes movie quite well, despite
having only seen it on teleevision. That movie was justly praised...
and then its many sequels were justly execrated.
You should read the book. It's also good, but different.
On 14 May 2024 22:06:33 -0000, kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
John Savard <quadibloc@servername.invalid> wrote:
I remember the original Planet of the Apes movie quite well, despite >>>having only seen it on teleevision. That movie was justly praised...
and then its many sequels were justly execrated.
You should read the book. It's also good, but different.
Actually, I did once read Monkey Planet by Pierre Boulle. In English translation, though, not the original.
John Savard
On 2024-05-18, Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:
I understand from Wikipedia that the book has a framing story about a
man and a woman in a spaceship who discover the manuscript of the main
story. What was the point of that?
Those are revealed to be apes who think that the idea of intelligent
humans pushes credibility too much.
On Sat, 18 May 2024 10:10:10 -0000 (UTC), Christian Weisgerber wrote:
On 2024-05-18, Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:
I understand from Wikipedia that the book has a framing story about a
man and a woman in a spaceship who discover the manuscript of the main
story. What was the point of that?
Those are revealed to be apes who think that the idea of intelligent
humans pushes credibility too much.
Ahh, so that's why the Wikpedia article refers only to "a rich couple," >leaving open the question of a couple of...what?
On 15/05/2024 17:52, Paul S Person wrote:
On 15 May 2024 00:16:41 -0000, kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote:
There are two, and "wet spot" as the cause is
incredibly unlikely given the temperature
of the arc. They're solid carbon (think old
carbon battery electrode) rods coated in copper.
When carbons are kept in the damp, they get absorb moisture... and then they
shatter when they get hot. A competent projectionist can swap it out in >>> a matter of seconds without even stopping the film.
Not where we were. The story we were told was that they didn't have
that many, so they had to use what they had and do the best they
could.
We did eventually get a new! Base Theater. For its inaugural film it
showed /The Hindenberg/ (judging from IMDb, this as a pre-release
version shown to the troops to see how it went down).
It was anamorphic widescreen. The projectionist forgot to use the
right lens. The Base Commander was in the audience. He was not happy.
To be very picky, it's _The Hindenburg_ (1975).
Or _Th Hndbrg_ is what you saw, I suppose.
Someone has made Wikipedia call it "highly
speculative", but it's based on a true airship.
The rest? I guess maybe.
Something similar happened with a film I say decades later.
But the /wierdest/ problem I ever saw -- or, rather, didn't see -- was
when the soundtrack played but there was no picture. Of course, since
this was an "art film", it seemed perfectly possible that that was the
intended experience. When caught, we heard the film being rewound and
then it started again.
Derek Jarman's _Blue_? :-)
A blank blue screen throughout. The narrative
is mostly about being gay in London, and getting
AIDS, so you may have not seen it at the
Base Theater.
ObSF: when _Star Trek III_ starts out tiny and
monochrome.
Saw many films at AAFES theaters at Fort Jackson. Before every movie, they >would play the "Star Spangled Banner" as the audience stood and saluted
(or held our hands over our hearts).
I understand from Wikipedia that the book has a framing story about
a man and a woman in a spaceship who discover the manuscript of the
main story. What was the point of that?
John Savard <quadibloc@servername.invalid> wrote:
I remember the original Planet of the Apes movie quite well, despite
having only seen it on teleevision. That movie was justly praised...
and then its many sequels were justly execrated.
You should read the book. It's also good, but different.
On 19/05/2024 17:03, Paul S Person wrote:
On Sat, 18 May 2024 20:52:40 +0100, Robert Carnegie
<rja.carnegie@gmail.com> wrote:
On 15/05/2024 17:52, Paul S Person wrote: >>> Something similar
happened with a film I say decades later.
But the /wierdest/ problem I ever saw -- or, rather, didn't see -- was >>>> when the soundtrack played but there was no picture. Of course, since
this was an "art film", it seemed perfectly possible that that was the >>>> intended experience. When caught, we heard the film being rewound and
then it started again.
Derek Jarman's _Blue_? :-)
A blank blue screen throughout. The narrative
is mostly about being gay in London, and getting
AIDS, so you may have not seen it at the
Base Theater.
No, this was later, in a 10-plex that later became a Sundance theater
and then was sold. (Sundance installed large seats with cupholders,
introduced reserved -- ie, assigned -- seating, and obtained a liquor
license so you had to be 21 to see a PG-13 film. Wierd.) It is,
however, nice to know that my suspicion that the blank screen was
intentional was not entirely unrealistic.
The film I was referring to was about Mexicans being hired to
manipulate what RAH called "Waldoes" across the border in USA
construction sites. At last, Mexican labor without the Mexican! P
So is this science fiction or... You said art film.
So, satire?
In real life, we have robots on production
Lines, in farming now I think, but not quite
on construction sites. The trade prefers safety
violations committed by human machine operators
who are physically present.
On 6/7/2024 1:29 AM, Robert Carnegie wrote:
On 19/05/2024 17:03, Paul S Person wrote:There is a Dutch company with an autonomous brick-laying robot in final >testing.
On Sat, 18 May 2024 20:52:40 +0100, Robert Carnegie
<rja.carnegie@gmail.com> wrote:
On 15/05/2024 17:52, Paul S Person wrote: >>> Something similar
happened with a film I say decades later.
But the /wierdest/ problem I ever saw -- or, rather, didn't see -- was >>>>> when the soundtrack played but there was no picture. Of course, since >>>>> this was an "art film", it seemed perfectly possible that that was the >>>>> intended experience. When caught, we heard the film being rewound and >>>>> then it started again.
Derek Jarman's _Blue_? :-)
A blank blue screen throughout. The narrative
is mostly about being gay in London, and getting
AIDS, so you may have not seen it at the
Base Theater.
No, this was later, in a 10-plex that later became a Sundance theater
and then was sold. (Sundance installed large seats with cupholders,
introduced reserved -- ie, assigned -- seating, and obtained a liquor
license so you had to be 21 to see a PG-13 film. Wierd.) It is,
however, nice to know that my suspicion that the blank screen was
intentional was not entirely unrealistic.
The film I was referring to was about Mexicans being hired to
manipulate what RAH called "Waldoes" across the border in USA
construction sites. At last, Mexican labor without the Mexican! P
So is this science fiction or... You said art film.
So, satire?
In real life, we have robots on production
Lines, in farming now I think, but not quite
on construction sites. The trade prefers safety
violations committed by human machine operators
who are physically present.
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> writes:
On 6/7/2024 1:29 AM, Robert Carnegie wrote:
On 19/05/2024 17:03, Paul S Person wrote:There is a Dutch company with an autonomous brick-laying robot in final >>testing.
On Sat, 18 May 2024 20:52:40 +0100, Robert Carnegie
<rja.carnegie@gmail.com> wrote:
On 15/05/2024 17:52, Paul S Person wrote: >>> Something similar
happened with a film I say decades later.
But the /wierdest/ problem I ever saw -- or, rather, didn't see -- was >>>>>> when the soundtrack played but there was no picture. Of course, since >>>>>> this was an "art film", it seemed perfectly possible that that was the >>>>>> intended experience. When caught, we heard the film being rewound and >>>>>> then it started again.
Derek Jarman's _Blue_? :-)
A blank blue screen throughout. The narrative
is mostly about being gay in London, and getting
AIDS, so you may have not seen it at the
Base Theater.
No, this was later, in a 10-plex that later became a Sundance theater
and then was sold. (Sundance installed large seats with cupholders,
introduced reserved -- ie, assigned -- seating, and obtained a liquor
license so you had to be 21 to see a PG-13 film. Wierd.) It is,
however, nice to know that my suspicion that the blank screen was
intentional was not entirely unrealistic.
The film I was referring to was about Mexicans being hired to
manipulate what RAH called "Waldoes" across the border in USA
construction sites. At last, Mexican labor without the Mexican! P
So is this science fiction or... You said art film.
So, satire?
In real life, we have robots on production
Lines, in farming now I think, but not quite
on construction sites. The trade prefers safety
violations committed by human machine operators
who are physically present.
And there are house-sized 3d-printers:
https://www.mudbots.com/
On 19/05/2024 17:03, Paul S Person wrote:
On Sat, 18 May 2024 20:52:40 +0100, Robert Carnegie
<rja.carnegie@gmail.com> wrote:
On 15/05/2024 17:52, Paul S Person wrote: >>> Something similar happened with a film I say decades later.
But the /wierdest/ problem I ever saw -- or, rather, didn't see -- was >>>> when the soundtrack played but there was no picture. Of course, since
this was an "art film", it seemed perfectly possible that that was the >>>> intended experience. When caught, we heard the film being rewound and
then it started again.
Derek Jarman's _Blue_? :-)
A blank blue screen throughout. The narrative
is mostly about being gay in London, and getting
AIDS, so you may have not seen it at the
Base Theater.
No, this was later, in a 10-plex that later became a Sundance theater
and then was sold. (Sundance installed large seats with cupholders,
introduced reserved -- ie, assigned -- seating, and obtained a liquor
license so you had to be 21 to see a PG-13 film. Wierd.) It is,
however, nice to know that my suspicion that the blank screen was
intentional was not entirely unrealistic.
The film I was referring to was about Mexicans being hired to
manipulate what RAH called "Waldoes" across the border in USA
construction sites. At last, Mexican labor without the Mexican! P
So is this science fiction or... You said art film.
So, satire?
In real life, we have robots on production
Lines, in farming now I think, but not quite
on construction sites. The trade prefers safety
violations committed by human machine operators
who are physically present.
The plot was about the monetization of water by a Greedy Corporation (one
of D's heroes, no doubt) who sequestered all the water available to
the protagonist's home town, held the town up for ransom, and starting
killing whoever resisted. The ending was pretty much what you would
expect.
A remote-manipulated robot becomes U.S. President
(again), and the tables are turned?
A lot depends on the budget. But wasn't
_Terminator_ pretty cheap?
--ObSF: when _Star Trek III_ starts out tiny and
monochrome.
IIRC, /Windjammer/ started out small as well.
On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 09:29:15 +0100, Robert Carnegie
I don't think I ever said it was a big film. It was a film about a
young man who leaves his small town for the big city and eventually
saves the town from dying of thirst. It has some action, but the story
is, how should I say this?, rather ordinary.=20
When the second reboot Bond film (/Qantum of Solace/) come out, it was >roundly ridiculed for treater water as a vital resource.
On 6/7/2024 1:29 AM, Robert Carnegie wrote:
On 19/05/2024 17:03, Paul S Person wrote:There is a Dutch company with an autonomous brick-laying robot in final testing.
On Sat, 18 May 2024 20:52:40 +0100, Robert Carnegie
<rja.carnegie@gmail.com> wrote:
On 15/05/2024 17:52, Paul S Person wrote: >>> Something similar
happened with a film I say decades later.
But the /wierdest/ problem I ever saw -- or, rather, didn't see -- was >>>>> when the soundtrack played but there was no picture. Of course, since >>>>> this was an "art film", it seemed perfectly possible that that was the >>>>> intended experience. When caught, we heard the film being rewound and >>>>> then it started again.
Derek Jarman's _Blue_? :-)
A blank blue screen throughout. The narrative
is mostly about being gay in London, and getting
AIDS, so you may have not seen it at the
Base Theater.
No, this was later, in a 10-plex that later became a Sundance theater
and then was sold. (Sundance installed large seats with cupholders,
introduced reserved -- ie, assigned -- seating, and obtained a liquor
license so you had to be 21 to see a PG-13 film. Wierd.) It is,
however, nice to know that my suspicion that the blank screen was
intentional was not entirely unrealistic.
The film I was referring to was about Mexicans being hired to
manipulate what RAH called "Waldoes" across the border in USA
construction sites. At last, Mexican labor without the Mexican! P
So is this science fiction or... You said art film.
So, satire?
In real life, we have robots on production
Lines, in farming now I think, but not quite
on construction sites. The trade prefers safety
violations committed by human machine operators
who are physically present.
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> writes:
On 6/7/2024 1:29 AM, Robert Carnegie wrote:
On 19/05/2024 17:03, Paul S Person wrote:There is a Dutch company with an autonomous brick-laying robot in final
On Sat, 18 May 2024 20:52:40 +0100, Robert Carnegie
<rja.carnegie@gmail.com> wrote:
On 15/05/2024 17:52, Paul S Person wrote: >>> Something similar
happened with a film I say decades later.
But the /wierdest/ problem I ever saw -- or, rather, didn't see -- was >>>>>> when the soundtrack played but there was no picture. Of course, since >>>>>> this was an "art film", it seemed perfectly possible that that was the >>>>>> intended experience. When caught, we heard the film being rewound and >>>>>> then it started again.
Derek Jarman's _Blue_? :-)
A blank blue screen throughout. The narrative
is mostly about being gay in London, and getting
AIDS, so you may have not seen it at the
Base Theater.
No, this was later, in a 10-plex that later became a Sundance theater
and then was sold. (Sundance installed large seats with cupholders,
introduced reserved -- ie, assigned -- seating, and obtained a liquor
license so you had to be 21 to see a PG-13 film. Wierd.) It is,
however, nice to know that my suspicion that the blank screen was
intentional was not entirely unrealistic.
The film I was referring to was about Mexicans being hired to
manipulate what RAH called "Waldoes" across the border in USA
construction sites. At last, Mexican labor without the Mexican! P
So is this science fiction or... You said art film.
So, satire?
In real life, we have robots on production
Lines, in farming now I think, but not quite
on construction sites. The trade prefers safety
violations committed by human machine operators
who are physically present.
testing.
And there are house-sized 3d-printers:
https://www.mudbots.com/
The film I was referring to was about Mexicans being hired to
manipulate what RAH called "Waldoes" across the border in USA
construction sites. At last, Mexican labor without the Mexican! P
So is this science fiction or... You said art film.
So, satire?
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 09:29:15 +0100, Robert Carnegie
I don't think I ever said it was a big film. It was a film about a
young man who leaves his small town for the big city and eventually
saves the town from dying of thirst. It has some action, but the story
is, how should I say this?, rather ordinary.=20
When the second reboot Bond film (/Qantum of Solace/) come out, it was
roundly ridiculed for treater water as a vital resource.
Cite?
Ever seen Chinatown?
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> writes:
On 6/7/2024 1:29 AM, Robert Carnegie wrote:
On 19/05/2024 17:03, Paul S Person wrote:There is a Dutch company with an autonomous brick-laying robot in final
On Sat, 18 May 2024 20:52:40 +0100, Robert Carnegie
<rja.carnegie@gmail.com> wrote:
On 15/05/2024 17:52, Paul S Person wrote: >>> Something similar
happened with a film I say decades later.
But the /wierdest/ problem I ever saw -- or, rather, didn't see -- was >>>>>> when the soundtrack played but there was no picture. Of course, since >>>>>> this was an "art film", it seemed perfectly possible that that was the >>>>>> intended experience. When caught, we heard the film being rewound and >>>>>> then it started again.
Derek Jarman's _Blue_? :-)
A blank blue screen throughout. The narrative
is mostly about being gay in London, and getting
AIDS, so you may have not seen it at the
Base Theater.
No, this was later, in a 10-plex that later became a Sundance theater
and then was sold. (Sundance installed large seats with cupholders,
introduced reserved -- ie, assigned -- seating, and obtained a liquor
license so you had to be 21 to see a PG-13 film. Wierd.) It is,
however, nice to know that my suspicion that the blank screen was
intentional was not entirely unrealistic.
The film I was referring to was about Mexicans being hired to
manipulate what RAH called "Waldoes" across the border in USA
construction sites. At last, Mexican labor without the Mexican! P
So is this science fiction or... You said art film.
So, satire?
In real life, we have robots on production
Lines, in farming now I think, but not quite
on construction sites. The trade prefers safety
violations committed by human machine operators
who are physically present.
testing.
And there are house-sized 3d-printers:
https://www.mudbots.com/
On 6/7/2024 9:29 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:Oh hell, the southwestern US states, various Native American groups and >Mexico have been legally fighting over the water from the Colorado River
On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 09:29:15 +0100, Robert Carnegie
I don't think I ever said it was a big film. It was a film about a
young man who leaves his small town for the big city and eventually
saves the town from dying of thirst. It has some action, but the story
is, how should I say this?, rather ordinary.=20
When the second reboot Bond film (/Qantum of Solace/) come out, it was
roundly ridiculed for treater water as a vital resource.
Cite?
Ever seen Chinatown?
for _decades_.
On 6/7/2024 9:29 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:Oh hell, the southwestern US states, various Native American groups and >Mexico have been legally fighting over the water from the Colorado River
On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 09:29:15 +0100, Robert Carnegie
I don't think I ever said it was a big film. It was a film about a
young man who leaves his small town for the big city and eventually
saves the town from dying of thirst. It has some action, but the story
is, how should I say this?, rather ordinary.=20
When the second reboot Bond film (/Qantum of Solace/) come out, it was
roundly ridiculed for treater water as a vital resource.
Cite?
Ever seen Chinatown?
for _decades_.
In article <v40kks$2f5g0$2@dont-email.me>,
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
On 6/7/2024 9:29 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:Oh hell, the southwestern US states, various Native American groups and >>Mexico have been legally fighting over the water from the Colorado River >>for _decades_.
On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 09:29:15 +0100, Robert Carnegie
I don't think I ever said it was a big film. It was a film about a
young man who leaves his small town for the big city and eventually
saves the town from dying of thirst. It has some action, but the story >>>> is, how should I say this?, rather ordinary.=20
When the second reboot Bond film (/Qantum of Solace/) come out, it was >>>> roundly ridiculed for treater water as a vital resource.
Cite?
Ever seen Chinatown?
Which is weird. Shouldn't the free market have responded to scarcity
by providing an alternative to water?
On 6/7/2024 9:40 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
On 6/7/2024 1:29 AM, Robert Carnegie wrote:
On 19/05/2024 17:03, Paul S Person wrote:There is a Dutch company with an autonomous brick-laying robot in final
On Sat, 18 May 2024 20:52:40 +0100, Robert Carnegie
<rja.carnegie@gmail.com> wrote:
On 15/05/2024 17:52, Paul S Person wrote: >>> Something similar
happened with a film I say decades later.
But the /wierdest/ problem I ever saw -- or, rather, didn't see -- was >>>>>> when the soundtrack played but there was no picture. Of course, since >>>>>> this was an "art film", it seemed perfectly possible that that was the >>>>>> intended experience. When caught, we heard the film being rewound and >>>>>> then it started again.
Derek Jarman's _Blue_? :-)
A blank blue screen throughout. The narrative
is mostly about being gay in London, and getting
AIDS, so you may have not seen it at the
Base Theater.
No, this was later, in a 10-plex that later became a Sundance theater
and then was sold. (Sundance installed large seats with cupholders,
introduced reserved -- ie, assigned -- seating, and obtained a liquor
license so you had to be 21 to see a PG-13 film. Wierd.) It is,
however, nice to know that my suspicion that the blank screen was
intentional was not entirely unrealistic.
The film I was referring to was about Mexicans being hired to
manipulate what RAH called "Waldoes" across the border in USA
construction sites. At last, Mexican labor without the Mexican! P
So is this science fiction or... You said art film.
So, satire?
In real life, we have robots on production
Lines, in farming now I think, but not quite
on construction sites. The trade prefers safety
violations committed by human machine operators
who are physically present.
testing.
Does a 3D printer count as a robot> >https://builtin.com/articles/3d-printed-house
On 6/7/2024 8:09 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> writes:
And 3-d house printers: >https://www.yahoo.com/news/3d-printed-homes-could-help-221842989.htmlThere is a Dutch company with an autonomous brick-laying robot in final
testing.
And there are house-sized 3d-printers:
https://www.mudbots.com/
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 09:29:15 +0100, Robert Carnegie
I don't think I ever said it was a big film. It was a film about a
young man who leaves his small town for the big city and eventually
saves the town from dying of thirst. It has some action, but the story
is, how should I say this?, rather ordinary.=20
When the second reboot Bond film (/Qantum of Solace/) come out, it was >>roundly ridiculed for treater water as a vital resource.
Cite?
Ever seen Chinatown?--
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> writes:
On 6/7/2024 9:29 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:Oh hell, the southwestern US states, various Native American groups and >>Mexico have been legally fighting over the water from the Colorado River >>for _decades_.
On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 09:29:15 +0100, Robert Carnegie
I don't think I ever said it was a big film. It was a film about a
young man who leaves his small town for the big city and eventually
saves the town from dying of thirst. It has some action, but the story >>>> is, how should I say this?, rather ordinary.=20
When the second reboot Bond film (/Qantum of Solace/) come out, it was >>>> roundly ridiculed for treater water as a vital resource.
Cite?
Ever seen Chinatown?
"Cite" was referring to the statement that Quantum of Solace was roundly >ridiculed.
In article <v40kks$2f5g0$2@dont-email.me>,
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
On 6/7/2024 9:29 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:Oh hell, the southwestern US states, various Native American groups and >>Mexico have been legally fighting over the water from the Colorado River >>for _decades_.
On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 09:29:15 +0100, Robert Carnegie
I don't think I ever said it was a big film. It was a film about a
young man who leaves his small town for the big city and eventually
saves the town from dying of thirst. It has some action, but the story >>>> is, how should I say this?, rather ordinary.=20
When the second reboot Bond film (/Qantum of Solace/) come out, it was >>>> roundly ridiculed for treater water as a vital resource.
Cite?
Ever seen Chinatown?
Which is weird. Shouldn't the free market have responded to scarcity
by providing an alternative to water?
The film I was referring to was about Mexicans being hired to
manipulate what RAH called "Waldoes" across the border in USA
construction sites. At last, Mexican labor without the Mexican! P
That would be Sleep Dealer. We showed it at Arisia and it was a great,
great film which I highly recommend to everyone.
--So is this science fiction or... You said art film.
So, satire?
Watch it and decide.
On Sat, 8 Jun 2024 13:11:32 -0000 (UTC), jdnicoll@panix.com (James
Nicoll) wrote:
In article <v40kks$2f5g0$2@dont-email.me>,
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
On 6/7/2024 9:29 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:Oh hell, the southwestern US states, various Native American groups and >>>Mexico have been legally fighting over the water from the Colorado River >>>for _decades_.
On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 09:29:15 +0100, Robert Carnegie
I don't think I ever said it was a big film. It was a film about a
young man who leaves his small town for the big city and eventually
saves the town from dying of thirst. It has some action, but the story >>>>> is, how should I say this?, rather ordinary.=20
When the second reboot Bond film (/Qantum of Solace/) come out, it was >>>>> roundly ridiculed for treater water as a vital resource.
Cite?
Ever seen Chinatown?
Which is weird. Shouldn't the free market have responded to scarcity
by providing an alternative to water?
Indeed it should. As D would, no doubt, contend.
On Fri, 07 Jun 2024 16:29:29 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 09:29:15 +0100, Robert Carnegie
I don't think I ever said it was a big film. It was a film about a
young man who leaves his small town for the big city and eventually
saves the town from dying of thirst. It has some action, but the story >>>is, how should I say this?, rather ordinary.=20
When the second reboot Bond film (/Qantum of Solace/) come out, it was >>>roundly ridiculed for treater water as a vital resource.
Cite?
After all these years? Probably Ebert. I was a big fan of Ebert.
Maltin ducks the issue by saying "prized natural resource" without
revealing what the resource is.
In article <v41la4$850$1@reader1.panix.com>,
James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
In article <v40kks$2f5g0$2@dont-email.me>,
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
On 6/7/2024 9:29 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:Oh hell, the southwestern US states, various Native American groups and
On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 09:29:15 +0100, Robert Carnegie
I don't think I ever said it was a big film. It was a film about a
young man who leaves his small town for the big city and eventually
saves the town from dying of thirst. It has some action, but the story >>>>> is, how should I say this?, rather ordinary.=20
When the second reboot Bond film (/Qantum of Solace/) come out, it was >>>>> roundly ridiculed for treater water as a vital resource.
Cite?
Ever seen Chinatown?
Mexico have been legally fighting over the water from the Colorado River >>> for _decades_.
Which is weird. Shouldn't the free market have responded to scarcity
by providing an alternative to water?
I believe that would be the martini.
--scott
vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> writes:
On Sat, 08 Jun 2024 08:53:44 -0700, Paul S Person
I remember an SF short story about bringing an iceberg to LA. Couldn't
tell you who wrote it, but I think it was in the 80's.
That was a plot point in Brewster's Millions in the 80s.
On Sat, 08 Jun 2024 08:53:44 -0700, Paul S Person
I remember an SF short story about bringing an iceberg to LA. Couldn't
tell you who wrote it, but I think it was in the 80's.
On 6/7/2024 9:29 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:Oh hell, the southwestern US states, various Native American groups and >Mexico have been legally fighting over the water from the Colorado River
On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 09:29:15 +0100, Robert Carnegie
I don't think I ever said it was a big film. It was a film about a
young man who leaves his small town for the big city and eventually
saves the town from dying of thirst. It has some action, but the story
is, how should I say this?, rather ordinary.=20
When the second reboot Bond film (/Qantum of Solace/) come out, it was
roundly ridiculed for treater water as a vital resource.
Cite?
Ever seen Chinatown?
for _decades_.
On 08/06/2024 23:26, Scott Dorsey wrote:
In article <v41la4$850$1@reader1.panix.com>,
James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
In article <v40kks$2f5g0$2@dont-email.me>,
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
On 6/7/2024 9:29 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:Oh hell, the southwestern US states, various Native American groups and >>>> Mexico have been legally fighting over the water from the Colorado River >>>> for _decades_.
On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 09:29:15 +0100, Robert Carnegie
I don't think I ever said it was a big film. It was a film about a >>>>>> young man who leaves his small town for the big city and eventually >>>>>> saves the town from dying of thirst. It has some action, but the story >>>>>> is, how should I say this?, rather ordinary.=20
When the second reboot Bond film (/Qantum of Solace/) come out, it was >>>>>> roundly ridiculed for treater water as a vital resource.
Cite?
Ever seen Chinatown?
Which is weird. Shouldn't the free market have responded to scarcity
by providing an alternative to water?
I believe that would be the martini.
--scott
According to Dave Allen it would be champagne, but I can't find the
clip, I'm fairly sure it was from "Dave Allen in Australia"...
So, a bloke is crawing across the desert, "Water, water, water, ...", he >gasps.
In the distance another bloke appears, also crawling across the desert,
but towards the first bloke.
As the second blokes nears, it becomes apparent that he is in Morning
Dress, and as he passes, is heard to be gasping, "Champagne, champagne, >champagne, ...".
In article <86v86jl3g0k760hmv3ak1gc4ij54iea90f@4ax.com>,
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 07 Jun 2024 16:29:29 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) >>wrote:
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 09:29:15 +0100, Robert Carnegie
I don't think I ever said it was a big film. It was a film about a >>>>young man who leaves his small town for the big city and eventually >>>>saves the town from dying of thirst. It has some action, but the story >>>>is, how should I say this?, rather ordinary.=20
When the second reboot Bond film (/Qantum of Solace/) come out, it was >>>>roundly ridiculed for treater water as a vital resource.
Cite?
After all these years? Probably Ebert. I was a big fan of Ebert.
Maltin ducks the issue by saying "prized natural resource" without >>revealing what the resource is.
IIRC, they were kind of stuck with a script that needed another pass
because of a writers' strike.
Which is weird. Shouldn't the free market have responded to scarcity
by providing an alternative to water?
I believe that would be the martini.
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