• [OT] Waiting for Catherine Deneuve (in the rain, with an umbrella)

    From John Savard@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 15 19:49:35 2024
    I remember, when I was a wee lad, a commercial came on the television.
    I think it may have been for Chanel perfume. It began with Catherine
    Deneuve saying "I am Catherine Deneuve".

    My mother reacted to that by perceiving it as vain and egotistical.
    Who was Catherine Deneuve supposed to be anyways?

    Well, I hadn't heard of her either, but I simply assumed she must have
    been a famous actress or model of whom I happened not to have heard.

    I never gave the matter much thought. But today the song "I Will Wait
    for You" came into my mind, and I went to look up performances of it.
    It turns out that it was from the movie "Les Parapluies de Cherbourg"
    (The Umbrellas of Cherbourg), and not only was this very acclaimed
    movie one in which Catherine Deneuve appeared, but, in fact, she was
    in the scene in which this song, with its original French lyric, was
    sung in the movie.

    John Savard

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  • From Charles Packer@21:1/5 to John Savard on Sun Jun 16 08:00:07 2024
    On Sat, 15 Jun 2024 19:49:35 -0600, John Savard wrote:

    I remember, when I was a wee lad, a commercial came on the television.
    I think it may have been for Chanel perfume. It began with Catherine
    Deneuve saying "I am Catherine Deneuve".

    My mother reacted to that by perceiving it as vain and egotistical. Who
    was Catherine Deneuve supposed to be anyways?

    Well, I hadn't heard of her either, but I simply assumed she must have
    been a famous actress or model of whom I happened not to have heard.

    I never gave the matter much thought. But today the song "I Will Wait
    for You" came into my mind, and I went to look up performances of it. It turns out that it was from the movie "Les Parapluies de Cherbourg" (The Umbrellas of Cherbourg), and not only was this very acclaimed movie one
    in which Catherine Deneuve appeared, but, in fact, she was in the scene
    in which this song, with its original French lyric, was sung in the
    movie.

    John Savard

    A couple of things. First, if you can recall the year of your
    mother's remark, we could figure out if she should have heard of
    Catherine Deneuve, based on the star's career arc as gleaned
    from Wikipedia, et. al.

    Second, aspects of your posting gave some of us, I'm sure, an
    opportunity to think about Samuel Beckett.

    Finally, let me express my gratitude to you for keeping this
    newsgroup from becoming purely a gumball machine for dispensing SF
    reviews, given that, in the past couple of years, some other
    regular OTers have faded away.

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  • From John Savard@21:1/5 to mailbox@cpacker.org on Sun Jun 16 17:08:48 2024
    On Sun, 16 Jun 2024 08:00:07 -0000 (UTC), Charles Packer
    <mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:

    A couple of things. First, if you can recall the year of your
    mother's remark, we could figure out if she should have heard of
    Catherine Deneuve, based on the star's career arc as gleaned
    from Wikipedia, et. al.

    Well, it was definitely after 1970, so she had already had some of her
    more famous movie roles.

    John Savard

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  • From BCFD 36@21:1/5 to John Savard on Sun Jun 16 22:58:56 2024
    On 6/15/24 18:49, John Savard wrote:
    I remember, when I was a wee lad, a commercial came on the television.
    I think it may have been for Chanel perfume. It began with Catherine
    Deneuve saying "I am Catherine Deneuve".

    My mother reacted to that by perceiving it as vain and egotistical.
    Who was Catherine Deneuve supposed to be anyways?

    Well, I hadn't heard of her either, but I simply assumed she must have
    been a famous actress or model of whom I happened not to have heard.

    I never gave the matter much thought. But today the song "I Will Wait
    for You" came into my mind, and I went to look up performances of it.
    It turns out that it was from the movie "Les Parapluies de Cherbourg"
    (The Umbrellas of Cherbourg), and not only was this very acclaimed
    movie one in which Catherine Deneuve appeared, but, in fact, she was
    in the scene in which this song, with its original French lyric, was
    sung in the movie.

    John Savard

    Similarly, there was a commercial or maybe series of commercials that
    had someone in it/them that said, "I'm Rula Lenska." My thought at the
    time was,"Who the $%^# is Rula Lenska?" Now of course you can just look
    it up. Back then, not so easy.

    Catherine Deneuve was making Chanel commercials in the very early 1970s.
    I was VERY aware of her as she was one of the most beautiful women this
    14 year old had ever seen. She was stunning, right up until I saw her
    smoking. Then, not so much.



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  • From John Savard@21:1/5 to bcfd36@cruzio.com on Mon Jun 17 00:21:34 2024
    On Sun, 16 Jun 2024 22:58:56 -0700, BCFD 36 <bcfd36@cruzio.com> wrote:

    Similarly, there was a commercial or maybe series of commercials that
    had someone in it/them that said, "I'm Rula Lenska." My thought at the
    time was,"Who the $%^# is Rula Lenska?" Now of course you can just look
    it up. Back then, not so easy.

    I remember those commercials myself.

    I thought it was sort of sexy how she rolled that R, but I paid it
    little attention otgherwise. However, I looked her up now. I see that
    she was a concentration camp survivor! Also, she was famous as an
    actress in Britain.

    However, you are still in good company. After looking her up, to get
    an idea of her claim to fame, I learned that Johnny Carson actually
    used "Who the heck is Rula Lenska" as a running joke on his show.

    John Savard

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  • From Gary R. Schmidt@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 17 16:45:12 2024
    On 17/06/2024 15:58, BCFD 36 wrote:
    On 6/15/24 18:49, John Savard wrote:
    I remember, when I was a wee lad, a commercial came on the television.
    I think it may have been for Chanel perfume. It began with Catherine
    Deneuve saying "I am Catherine Deneuve".

    My mother reacted to that by perceiving it as vain and egotistical.
    Who was Catherine Deneuve supposed to be anyways?

    Well, I hadn't heard of her either, but I simply assumed she must have
    been a famous actress or model of whom I happened not to have heard.

    I never gave the matter much thought. But today the song "I Will Wait
    for You" came into my mind, and I went to look up performances of it.
    It turns out that it was from the movie "Les Parapluies de Cherbourg"
    (The Umbrellas of Cherbourg), and not only was this very acclaimed
    movie one in which Catherine Deneuve appeared, but, in fact, she was
    in the scene in which this song, with its original French lyric, was
    sung in the movie.

    John Savard

    Similarly, there was a commercial or maybe series of commercials that
    had someone in it/them that said, "I'm Rula Lenska." My thought at the
    time was,"Who the $%^# is Rula Lenska?" Now of course you can just look
    it up. Back then, not so easy.

    Ooh, Rula Lenska was in "Rock Follies", and quite a few other things.
    She was married to Dennis Waterman, mayhap still is?!

    Catherine Deneuve was making Chanel commercials in the very early 1970s.
    I was VERY aware of her as she was one of the most beautiful women this
    14 year old had ever seen. She was stunning, right up until I saw her smoking. Then, not so much.
    I suppose having a Mum who was a film fanatic and worked in a Cinema
    meant I had a, shall we say, broader, introduction to the stars of the
    silver screen. Being plonked in a seat to watch whatever has perhaps
    been replaced by being plonked in front of the streaming device these
    days. ;-)

    Cheers,
    Gary B-)

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  • From Charles Packer@21:1/5 to John Savard on Mon Jun 17 07:59:40 2024
    On Sun, 16 Jun 2024 17:08:48 -0600, John Savard wrote:

    On Sun, 16 Jun 2024 08:00:07 -0000 (UTC), Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:

    A couple of things. First, if you can recall the year of your mother's >>remark, we could figure out if she should have heard of Catherine
    Deneuve, based on the star's career arc as gleaned from Wikipedia, et.
    al.

    Well, it was definitely after 1970, so she had already had some of her
    more famous movie roles.

    John Savard

    But for directors such as Luis Bunuel? How did she become famous
    beyond the art house crowd?

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  • From Charles Packer@21:1/5 to Charles Packer on Tue Jun 18 07:39:34 2024
    On Mon, 17 Jun 2024 07:59:40 -0000 (UTC), Charles Packer wrote:

    On Sun, 16 Jun 2024 17:08:48 -0600, John Savard wrote:

    On Sun, 16 Jun 2024 08:00:07 -0000 (UTC), Charles Packer
    <mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:

    A couple of things. First, if you can recall the year of your mother's >>>remark, we could figure out if she should have heard of Catherine >>>Deneuve, based on the star's career arc as gleaned from Wikipedia, et. >>>al.

    Well, it was definitely after 1970, so she had already had some of her
    more famous movie roles.

    John Savard

    But for directors such as Luis Bunuel? How did she become famous beyond
    the art house crowd?

    I can answer my own question by delving into newspapers.com.
    The answer is the American publicity machine, via nationally syndicated
    gossip columnists. In 1968 they touted her has the successor to Brigitte
    Bardot as the new cinema sex symbol. This was in connection with the
    movie "Benjamin."

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to mailbox@cpacker.org on Tue Jun 18 12:31:17 2024
    In article <pan$c580a$7021a89b$dfee62dd$9aa66e25@cpacker.org>,
    Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Jun 2024 07:59:40 -0000 (UTC), Charles Packer wrote:

    On Sun, 16 Jun 2024 17:08:48 -0600, John Savard wrote:

    On Sun, 16 Jun 2024 08:00:07 -0000 (UTC), Charles Packer
    <mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:

    A couple of things. First, if you can recall the year of your mother's >>>>remark, we could figure out if she should have heard of Catherine >>>>Deneuve, based on the star's career arc as gleaned from Wikipedia, et. >>>>al.

    Well, it was definitely after 1970, so she had already had some of her
    more famous movie roles.

    John Savard

    But for directors such as Luis Bunuel? How did she become famous beyond
    the art house crowd?

    I can answer my own question by delving into newspapers.com.
    The answer is the American publicity machine, via nationally syndicated >gossip columnists. In 1968 they touted her has the successor to Brigitte >Bardot as the new cinema sex symbol. This was in connection with the
    movie "Benjamin."

    Just to explain... Brigitte Bardot was the French Raquel Welch. This likely makes Catherine Deneuve the French Jayne Mansfield. Deneuve could act too. --scott
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  • From Charles Packer@21:1/5 to Scott Dorsey on Wed Jun 19 07:56:25 2024
    On 18 Jun 2024 12:31:17 -0000, Scott Dorsey wrote:

    Just to explain... Brigitte Bardot was the French Raquel Welch. This
    likely makes Catherine Deneuve the French Jayne Mansfield. Deneuve
    could act too. --scott

    What's interesting to me is that the spikes in American
    newspaper coverage for Bardot and Deneuve were exactly 10
    years apart -- 1958 and 1968.

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to mailbox@cpacker.org on Wed Jun 19 10:59:46 2024
    Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:
    On 18 Jun 2024 12:31:17 -0000, Scott Dorsey wrote:

    Just to explain... Brigitte Bardot was the French Raquel Welch. This
    likely makes Catherine Deneuve the French Jayne Mansfield. Deneuve
    could act too. --scott

    What's interesting to me is that the spikes in American
    newspaper coverage for Bardot and Deneuve were exactly 10
    years apart -- 1958 and 1968.

    And if the sum is plotted on a time axis, the resulting plot looks like a
    pair of breasts. Concidence? I think not.
    --scott
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  • From Kevrob@21:1/5 to Gary R. Schmidt on Thu Jun 20 05:49:10 2024
    On 6/17/2024 2:45 AM, Gary R. Schmidt wrote:
    On 17/06/2024 15:58, BCFD 36 wrote:
    On 6/15/24 18:49, John Savard wrote:
    I remember, when I was a wee lad, a commercial came on the television.
    I think it may have been for Chanel perfume. It began with Catherine
    Deneuve saying "I am Catherine Deneuve".

    My mother reacted to that by perceiving it as vain and egotistical.
    Who was Catherine Deneuve supposed to be anyways?

    Well, I hadn't heard of her either, but I simply assumed she must have
    been a famous actress or model of whom I happened not to have heard.

    I never gave the matter much thought. But today the song "I Will Wait
    for You" came into my mind, and I went to look up performances of it.
    It turns out that it was from the movie "Les Parapluies de Cherbourg"
    (The Umbrellas of Cherbourg), and not only was this very acclaimed
    movie one in which Catherine Deneuve appeared, but, in fact, she was
    in the scene in which this song, with its original French lyric, was
    sung in the movie.

    John Savard

    Similarly, there was a commercial or maybe series of commercials that
    had someone in it/them that said, "I'm Rula Lenska." My thought at the
    time was,"Who the $%^# is Rula Lenska?" Now of course you can just
    look it up. Back then, not so easy.

    Ooh, Rula Lenska was in "Rock Follies", and quite a few other things.
    She was married to Dennis Waterman, mayhap still is?!

    Catherine Deneuve was making Chanel commercials in the very early
    1970s. I was VERY aware of her as she was one of the most beautiful
    women this 14 year old had ever seen. She was stunning, right up until
    I saw her smoking. Then, not so much.
    I suppose having a Mum who was a film fanatic and worked in a Cinema
    meant I had a, shall we say, broader, introduction to the stars of the
    silver screen.  Being plonked in a seat to watch whatever has perhaps
    been replaced by being plonked in front of the streaming device these
    days.  ;-)

        Cheers,

            Gary    B-)



    Ms Lenska played Lintilla and clones on h2g2, among other sfnal parts.

    I also remember the shampoo ads and the Carson joke.

    I also remember the shampoo brand, VO5. I actually have some of that,
    bought at the Dollar Tree, sitting on a shelf in my shower.

    Dollar Tree shampoo.Because while my hair isn't worth L'Oreal, I
    still do have _some_.

    Cybil Shepherd drummed for L'Oreal.

    https://youtu.be/LyBdAmMdqZs

    https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Rula_Lenska

    Cybil was the Gold Girl in _Americathon_.

    --
    Kevin R



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