• Nebula Finalists 1990

    From James Nicoll@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 1 14:33:56 2024
    1990! Commercial internet took the first baby steps towards the
    online utopia we now enjoy, Thatcher demonstrated to fellow Tories
    who truly enjoyed the Mandate of Heaven, and the world's supply of
    Germanies abruptly fell by half.

    Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
    The Healer's War by Elizabeth Ann Scarborough
    Good News from Outer Space by John Kessel
    Ivory by Mike Resnick
    Prentice Alvin by Orson Scott Card
    Sister Light, Sister Dark by Jane Yolen
    The Boat of a Million Years by Poul Anderson

    All but the Yolen. Can't say I really enjoyed the Anderson.


    Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Novellas Have You Read?

    The Mountains of Mourning by Lois McMaster Bujold
    A Dozen Tough Jobs by Howard Waldrop
    A Touch of Lavender by Megan Lindholm
    Great Work of Time by John Crowley
    Marid Changes His Mind by George Alec Effinger
    Tiny Tango by Judith Moffett

    All but the Lindholm. There is strong correlation between me having
    read a story and Dozois having anthologized it.


    Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Novelettes Have You Read?

    At the Rialto by Connie Willis
    Enter a Soldier. Later: Enter Another by Robert Silverberg
    Fast Cars by Kristine Kathryn Rusch
    For I Have Touched the Sky by Mike Resnick
    Silver Lady and the Fortyish Man by Megan Lindholm
    Sisters by Greg Bear

    All but the Rusch.


    Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Short Stories Have You Read?

    Ripples in the Dirac Sea by Geoffrey A. Landis
    Boobs by Suzy McKee Charnas
    Dori Bangs by Bruce Sterling
    Lost Boys by Orson Scott Card
    The Adinkra Cloth by Mary C. Aldridge
    The Ommatidium Miniatures by Michael Bishop

    Just the first three. I am pretty sure there's no connection between
    the Card and the movies of the same name.
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  • From Robert Woodward@21:1/5 to James Nicoll on Mon Jul 1 09:40:08 2024
    In article <v5ueok$4eg$1@reader1.panix.com>,
    jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:

    1990! Commercial internet took the first baby steps towards the
    online utopia we now enjoy, Thatcher demonstrated to fellow Tories
    who truly enjoyed the Mandate of Heaven, and the world's supply of
    Germanies abruptly fell by half.

    Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
    The Healer's War by Elizabeth Ann Scarborough
    Good News from Outer Space by John Kessel
    Ivory by Mike Resnick
    Prentice Alvin by Orson Scott Card
    Sister Light, Sister Dark by Jane Yolen
    The Boat of a Million Years by Poul Anderson

    All but the Yolen. Can't say I really enjoyed the Anderson.


    Card, Yolen and Anderson


    Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Novellas Have You Read?

    The Mountains of Mourning by Lois McMaster Bujold
    A Dozen Tough Jobs by Howard Waldrop
    A Touch of Lavender by Megan Lindholm
    Great Work of Time by John Crowley
    Marid Changes His Mind by George Alec Effinger
    Tiny Tango by Judith Moffett

    All but the Lindholm. There is strong correlation between me having
    read a story and Dozois having anthologized it.


    Bujold (don't believe I have read the Lindholm).


    Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Novelettes Have You Read?

    At the Rialto by Connie Willis
    Enter a Soldier. Later: Enter Another by Robert Silverberg
    Fast Cars by Kristine Kathryn Rusch
    For I Have Touched the Sky by Mike Resnick
    Silver Lady and the Fortyish Man by Megan Lindholm
    Sisters by Greg Bear

    All but the Rusch.


    Maybe the Lindholm (BTW, years later)


    Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Short Stories Have You Read?

    Ripples in the Dirac Sea by Geoffrey A. Landis
    Boobs by Suzy McKee Charnas
    Dori Bangs by Bruce Sterling
    Lost Boys by Orson Scott Card
    The Adinkra Cloth by Mary C. Aldridge
    The Ommatidium Miniatures by Michael Bishop

    Just the first three. I am pretty sure there's no connection between
    the Card and the movies of the same name.

    Maybe the Landis; I don't think I have read the Card.

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  • From James Nicoll@21:1/5 to robertaw@drizzle.com on Mon Jul 1 17:25:46 2024
    In article <robertaw-343850.09400801072024@news.individual.net>,
    Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:
    In article <v5ueok$4eg$1@reader1.panix.com>,
    jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:


    Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Short Stories Have You Read?

    Ripples in the Dirac Sea by Geoffrey A. Landis
    Boobs by Suzy McKee Charnas
    Dori Bangs by Bruce Sterling
    Lost Boys by Orson Scott Card
    The Adinkra Cloth by Mary C. Aldridge
    The Ommatidium Miniatures by Michael Bishop

    Just the first three. I am pretty sure there's no connection between
    the Card and the movies of the same name.

    Maybe the Landis; I don't think I have read the Card.

    I _heard_ about the Card. Lots of shouting. But if ISFDB can be
    believed, it never appeared in any magazine or book I read.
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  • From James Nicoll@21:1/5 to Michael F. Stemper on Mon Jul 1 18:55:02 2024
    In article <v5uq9e$168of$1@dont-email.me>,
    Michael F. Stemper <michael.stemper@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 01/07/2024 09.33, James Nicoll wrote:
    1990! Commercial internet took the first baby steps towards the
    online utopia we now enjoy, Thatcher demonstrated to fellow Tories
    who truly enjoyed the Mandate of Heaven, and the world's supply of
    Germanies abruptly fell by half.

    Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
    The Healer's War by Elizabeth Ann Scarborough
    Good News from Outer Space by John Kessel
    Ivory by Mike Resnick
    Prentice Alvin by Orson Scott Card
    Sister Light, Sister Dark by Jane Yolen
    The Boat of a Million Years by Poul Anderson

    All but the Yolen. Can't say I really enjoyed the Anderson.

    The Card and the Anderson. I didn't much care for it, either, and I
    think that I'm probably more of an Anderson fan-boy than you are.

    Welllll, there's a set of SF authors with whose flaws I am intimately
    familiar because I read and reread and reread so much of their stuff
    because their virtues outweighed their flaws. Poul Anderson might be
    the example whose works I own the most of, because he was so prolific.
    A quick glance at ISFDB suggests I have read (and in most cases own)
    the following:

    i
    Novels

    Vault of the Ages (1952)
    The Broken Sword (1954)
    Brain Wave (1954) also appeared as:
    No World of Their Own (1955) AKA The Long Way Home (1975)
    Star Ways (1956) AKA The Peregrine (1978)
    The Enemy Stars (1958)
    War of the Wing-Men (1958) AKA The Man Who Counts (1978)
    Virgin Planet (1959)
    We Claim These Stars! (1959)
    The High Crusade (1960)
    Three Hearts and Three Lions (1961)
    Orbit Unlimited (1961)
    After Doomsday (1962)
    Let the Spacemen Beware! (1963) AKA The Night Face (1978)
    Shield (1963) also appeared as:
    Three Worlds to Conquer (1964)
    The Corridors of Time (1965)
    The Star Fox (1965)
    Ensign Flandry (1966)
    World Without Stars (1967)
    Satan's World (1969)
    The Rebel Worlds (1969)
    Tau Zero (1970)
    A Circus of Hells (1970)
    Operation Chaos (1971)
    The Dancer from Atlantis (1971)
    The Byworlder (1971)
    There Will Be Time (1972)
    The People of the Wind (1973)
    Hrolf Kraki's Saga (1973)
    Inheritors of Earth (1974) with Gordon Eklund
    The Day of Their Return (1974)
    A Midsummer Tempest (1974)
    Fire Time (1974)
    Star Prince Charlie (1975) with Gordon R. Dickson
    A Knight of Ghosts and Shadows (1975)
    The Winter of the World (1976)
    Mirkheim (1977)
    The Avatar (1978)
    The Merman's Children (1979)
    A Stone in Heaven (1979)
    The Demon of Scattery (1979) with Mildred Downey Broxon
    The Golden Horn (1980)
    The Road of the Sea Horse (1980)
    The Sign of the Raven (1980)
    The Devil's Game (1980)
    Orion Shall Rise (1983)
    The Game of Empire (1985)
    The Boat of a Million Years (1989)
    Harvest of Stars (1993)
    The Stars Are Also Fire (1994)
    Harvest the Fire (1995)
    Starfarers (1998)
    Operation Luna (1999)
    Genesis (2000)
    For Love and Glory (2003)

    Collections

    Earthman's Burden (1957) with Gordon R. Dickson
    Guardians of Time (1960 )AKA The Guardians of Time (1981)
    Twilight World (1961)
    Strangers from Earth (1961)
    Un-Man and Other Novellas (1962)
    Time and Stars (1964)
    Trader to the Stars (1964)
    Agent of the Terran Empire (1965)
    Flandry of Terra (1965)
    The Trouble Twisters (1966)
    The Horn of Time (1968)
    Seven Conquests: An Adventure in Science Fiction (1969)
    Beyond the Beyond (1969)
    Tales of the Flying Mountains (1970)
    The Queen of Air and Darkness and Other Stories (1973)
    The Many Worlds of Poul Anderson (1974)AKA The Book of Poul Anderson (1975)
    Homeward and Beyond (1975)
    Homebrew (1976)
    The Best of Poul Anderson (1976)
    The Earth Book of Stormgate (1978)
    The Psycho-Technic League (1981)
    Winners (1981)
    Fantasy (1981)
    Explorations (1981)
    The Dark Between the Stars (1981)
    Cold Victory (1982)
    Starship (1982)
    Maurai & Kith (1982)
    The Gods Laughed (1982)
    New America (1982)
    The Long Night (1983)
    Conflict (1983)
    Hoka! (1983) with Gordon R. Dickson
    Time Patrolman (1983)
    Past Times (1984)
    Dialogue with Darkness (1985)
    Going for Infinity (2002)
    The Van Rijn Method (2008)
    David Falkayn: Star Trader (2009)

    Plus the Cleopatra shared world anthology.

    In fact, one of my first proposals for tor dot com was for me to do
    with Anderson what Tarr was doing for Norton.
    --
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  • From Christian Weisgerber@21:1/5 to James Nicoll on Mon Jul 1 22:18:38 2024
    On 2024-07-01, James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:

    Welllll, there's a set of SF authors with whose flaws I am intimately familiar because I read and reread and reread so much of their stuff
    because their virtues outweighed their flaws. Poul Anderson might be
    the example whose works I own the most of, because he was so prolific.

    Now I'm curious: What are Anderson's characteristic flaws?

    --
    Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de

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  • From James Nicoll@21:1/5 to naddy@mips.inka.de on Tue Jul 2 02:24:20 2024
    In article <slrnv86apu.1d6k.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de>,
    Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:
    On 2024-07-01, James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:

    Welllll, there's a set of SF authors with whose flaws I am intimately
    familiar because I read and reread and reread so much of their stuff
    because their virtues outweighed their flaws. Poul Anderson might be
    the example whose works I own the most of, because he was so prolific.

    Now I'm curious: What are Anderson's characteristic flaws?

    A huge blind spot where women were concerned that manifested in a
    variety of ways. An excessive love of infodumps. A certain unsubtleness
    weaving his politics into the narrative. An overfondness of certain
    stylistic mannerisms I won't mention as they are hard to unsee.
    Increasingly unrelenting fatalism. A tendency to trust his conclusions
    more than he probably should have, my go-to example being his exchange
    with Freeman Dyson where he jumps from "shell collecting all of the
    Sun's light" to "Obs totalitarian" with fewer intervening steps
    than I would have cared for.

    But! His planets were huge and they were all different from each other.
    He worked hard on his fiction and while I don't think he had his
    masterpiece, he was always reliable.

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  • From James Nicoll@21:1/5 to wthyde1953@gmail.com on Tue Jul 2 02:37:43 2024
    In article <v5vbu8$19jq3$1@dont-email.me>,
    William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:
    James Nicoll wrote:

    snip snip

    The Demon of Scattery (1979) with Mildred Downey Broxon

    snip

    In fact, one of my first proposals for tor dot com was for me to do
    with Anderson what Tarr was doing for Norton.

    My first thought was that I would reply to this to the effect: "Hah, you >don't have ..." as my own Anderson collection is extensive.

    But you do.

    And I have never read, it seems, "The demon of scattery", or even heard
    of it.

    As I recall, PA mentored Broxon. This one was minor and I'd actually
    pay money to forget her Matter of Ireland novel, Too Long a Sacrifice.

    That said, she did get into Universe 5, with authors like Pangborn
    and Le Guin. Maybe I am too harsh.
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  • From Chris Buckley@21:1/5 to William Hyde on Tue Jul 2 02:41:11 2024
    On 2024-07-01, William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:
    James Nicoll wrote:
    In article <v5uq9e$168of$1@dont-email.me>,
    Michael F. Stemper <michael.stemper@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 01/07/2024 09.33, James Nicoll wrote:
    1990! Commercial internet took the first baby steps towards the
    online utopia we now enjoy, Thatcher demonstrated to fellow Tories
    who truly enjoyed the Mandate of Heaven, and the world's supply of
    Germanies abruptly fell by half.

    Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
    The Healer's War by Elizabeth Ann Scarborough
    Good News from Outer Space by John Kessel
    Ivory by Mike Resnick
    Prentice Alvin by Orson Scott Card
    Sister Light, Sister Dark by Jane Yolen
    The Boat of a Million Years by Poul Anderson

    All but the Yolen. Can't say I really enjoyed the Anderson.

    The Card and the Anderson. I didn't much care for it, either, and I
    think that I'm probably more of an Anderson fan-boy than you are.

    Welllll, there's a set of SF authors with whose flaws I am intimately
    familiar because I read and reread and reread so much of their stuff
    because their virtues outweighed their flaws. Poul Anderson might be
    the example whose works I own the most of, because he was so prolific.
    A quick glance at ISFDB suggests I have read (and in most cases own)
    the following:

    i
    Novels

    Vault of the Ages (1952)
    The Broken Sword (1954)
    Brain Wave (1954) also appeared as:
    No World of Their Own (1955) AKA The Long Way Home (1975)
    Star Ways (1956) AKA The Peregrine (1978)
    The Enemy Stars (1958)
    War of the Wing-Men (1958) AKA The Man Who Counts (1978)
    Virgin Planet (1959)
    We Claim These Stars! (1959)
    The High Crusade (1960)
    Three Hearts and Three Lions (1961)
    Orbit Unlimited (1961)
    After Doomsday (1962)
    Let the Spacemen Beware! (1963) AKA The Night Face (1978)
    Shield (1963) also appeared as:
    Three Worlds to Conquer (1964)
    The Corridors of Time (1965)
    The Star Fox (1965)
    Ensign Flandry (1966)
    World Without Stars (1967)
    Satan's World (1969)
    The Rebel Worlds (1969)
    Tau Zero (1970)
    A Circus of Hells (1970)
    Operation Chaos (1971)
    The Dancer from Atlantis (1971)
    The Byworlder (1971)
    There Will Be Time (1972)
    The People of the Wind (1973)
    Hrolf Kraki's Saga (1973)
    Inheritors of Earth (1974) with Gordon Eklund
    The Day of Their Return (1974)
    A Midsummer Tempest (1974)
    Fire Time (1974)
    Star Prince Charlie (1975) with Gordon R. Dickson
    A Knight of Ghosts and Shadows (1975)
    The Winter of the World (1976)
    Mirkheim (1977)
    The Avatar (1978)
    The Merman's Children (1979)
    A Stone in Heaven (1979)
    The Demon of Scattery (1979) with Mildred Downey Broxon
    The Golden Horn (1980)
    The Road of the Sea Horse (1980)
    The Sign of the Raven (1980)
    The Devil's Game (1980)
    Orion Shall Rise (1983)
    The Game of Empire (1985)
    The Boat of a Million Years (1989)
    Harvest of Stars (1993)
    The Stars Are Also Fire (1994)
    Harvest the Fire (1995)
    Starfarers (1998)
    Operation Luna (1999)
    Genesis (2000)
    For Love and Glory (2003)

    Collections

    Earthman's Burden (1957) with Gordon R. Dickson
    Guardians of Time (1960 )AKA The Guardians of Time (1981)
    Twilight World (1961)
    Strangers from Earth (1961)
    Un-Man and Other Novellas (1962)
    Time and Stars (1964)
    Trader to the Stars (1964)
    Agent of the Terran Empire (1965)
    Flandry of Terra (1965)
    The Trouble Twisters (1966)
    The Horn of Time (1968)
    Seven Conquests: An Adventure in Science Fiction (1969)
    Beyond the Beyond (1969)
    Tales of the Flying Mountains (1970)
    The Queen of Air and Darkness and Other Stories (1973)
    The Many Worlds of Poul Anderson (1974)AKA The Book of Poul Anderson (1975)
    Homeward and Beyond (1975)
    Homebrew (1976)
    The Best of Poul Anderson (1976)
    The Earth Book of Stormgate (1978)
    The Psycho-Technic League (1981)
    Winners (1981)
    Fantasy (1981)
    Explorations (1981)
    The Dark Between the Stars (1981)
    Cold Victory (1982)
    Starship (1982)
    Maurai & Kith (1982)
    The Gods Laughed (1982)
    New America (1982)
    The Long Night (1983)
    Conflict (1983)
    Hoka! (1983) with Gordon R. Dickson
    Time Patrolman (1983)
    Past Times (1984)
    Dialogue with Darkness (1985)
    Going for Infinity (2002)
    The Van Rijn Method (2008)
    David Falkayn: Star Trader (2009)

    Plus the Cleopatra shared world anthology.

    In fact, one of my first proposals for tor dot com was for me to do
    with Anderson what Tarr was doing for Norton.

    My first thought was that I would reply to this to the effect: "Hah, you don't have ..." as my own Anderson collection is extensive.

    But you do.

    And I have never read, it seems, "The demon of scattery", or even heard
    of it.
    William Hyde

    Yes, a very impressive list. I have lots of Anderson but there are numerous books I've never heard of (though I do have _The Demon of Scattery_.)

    Of the 56 novels listed, I have 37. Ones I have that James didn't list
    (though I know he's read at least a couple), most are short so perhaps
    not novels:
    _The Makeshift Rocket_ (published in UK, stand-alone but short)
    _Mayday Orbit_ (Ace double, James listed other Ace doubles but not this one) _No Truce With Kings_ (Tor double; I'm sure James has read)
    _The Saturn Game_ (Tor double)
    _The Shield of Time_ (I would call this a novel (as it calls itself), others
    might call it a fixup novel/collection of original shorter works)

    And there's several multiple author books I file under Anderson as the first alphabetic author and I don't know who else to file it under!
    _Five Fates_ (5 novellas)
    _The Day the Sun Stood Still_ (3 novellas)
    _Murasaki_ (a novel in 6 parts)

    I'm missing a much higher percentage of the collections, as I would expect.
    I have 15 of the 39 listed. Not listed by James:
    _The Unicorn Trade_ (with Karen Anderson, so perhaps not officially a
    collection? The vast majority is by Poul)

    Poul Anderson is very consistently high quality, often almost Favorite
    quality, but not many make it all the way for me. _Operation Chaos_,
    _Three Hearts and Three Lions_, and _Five Fates_ (as a whole, not Anderson
    in particular) are the only three current Favorites.

    _Brain Wave_ and _Tau Zero_ have been on the Favorite bookcase in the
    past but got removed in the era where the number of Favorites was
    constrained by the size of the bookcase. Nowadays, all new Favorites
    are ebooks so nothing is getting removed.

    Chris

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  • From Robert Woodward@21:1/5 to James Nicoll on Mon Jul 1 22:21:32 2024
    In article <v5uu25$ber$1@reader1.panix.com>,
    jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:

    In article <v5uq9e$168of$1@dont-email.me>,
    Michael F. Stemper <michael.stemper@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 01/07/2024 09.33, James Nicoll wrote:
    1990! Commercial internet took the first baby steps towards the
    online utopia we now enjoy, Thatcher demonstrated to fellow Tories
    who truly enjoyed the Mandate of Heaven, and the world's supply of
    Germanies abruptly fell by half.

    Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
    The Healer's War by Elizabeth Ann Scarborough
    Good News from Outer Space by John Kessel
    Ivory by Mike Resnick
    Prentice Alvin by Orson Scott Card
    Sister Light, Sister Dark by Jane Yolen
    The Boat of a Million Years by Poul Anderson

    All but the Yolen. Can't say I really enjoyed the Anderson.

    The Card and the Anderson. I didn't much care for it, either, and I
    think that I'm probably more of an Anderson fan-boy than you are.

    Welllll, there's a set of SF authors with whose flaws I am intimately familiar because I read and reread and reread so much of their stuff
    because their virtues outweighed their flaws. Poul Anderson might be
    the example whose works I own the most of, because he was so prolific.
    A quick glance at ISFDB suggests I have read (and in most cases own)
    the following:

    i
    Novels

    Vault of the Ages (1952)

    <SNIP! of a very impressive list>

    I also have just about all of those (though are several I haven't yet
    read). BTW, I have the mystery _Perish by the Sword_ and the
    historicals _Rogue Sword_ and _The Golden Slave_.



    In fact, one of my first proposals for tor dot com was for me to do
    with Anderson what Tarr was doing for Norton.

    --
    "We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
    Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_. ‹-----------------------------------------------------
    Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com

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  • From James Nicoll@21:1/5 to Michael F. Stemper on Tue Jul 2 19:58:36 2024
    In article <v61l95$1p0q7$1@dont-email.me>,
    Michael F. Stemper <michael.stemper@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 01/07/2024 13.55, James Nicoll wrote:
    In article <v5uq9e$168of$1@dont-email.me>,
    Michael F. Stemper <michael.stemper@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 01/07/2024 09.33, James Nicoll wrote:
    1990! Commercial internet took the first baby steps towards the
    online utopia we now enjoy, Thatcher demonstrated to fellow Tories
    who truly enjoyed the Mandate of Heaven, and the world's supply of
    Germanies abruptly fell by half.

    Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
    The Healer's War by Elizabeth Ann Scarborough
    Good News from Outer Space by John Kessel
    Ivory by Mike Resnick
    Prentice Alvin by Orson Scott Card
    Sister Light, Sister Dark by Jane Yolen
    The Boat of a Million Years by Poul Anderson

    All but the Yolen. Can't say I really enjoyed the Anderson.

    The Card and the Anderson. I didn't much care for it, either, and I
    think that I'm probably more of an Anderson fan-boy than you are.

    Welllll, there's a set of SF authors with whose flaws I am intimately
    familiar because I read and reread and reread so much of their stuff
    because their virtues outweighed their flaws. Poul Anderson might be
    the example whose works I own the most of, because he was so prolific.

    I seem to have not communicated clearly. To me, the term "fanboy"
    refers to attitude rather than knowledge. It implies things such
    as "adulation", "uncritical acceptance".

    A fanboy wouldn't say something like "X's virtues outweigh his
    flaws", but would say "what flaws?"

    Is it truely fandom to ignore an aspect of someone's work?

    In fact, one of my first proposals for tor dot com was for me to do
    with Anderson what Tarr was doing for Norton.

    Interesting. What was Tarr doing for Norton? At one time, I loved her
    work, but now find it a real chore to read.

    Tarr did (and might still be doing) a long running series of reviews
    of Norton novels. _I_ received 50 Nortons and barely scratched the
    surface.

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  • From Chris Buckley@21:1/5 to James Nicoll on Wed Jul 10 00:36:03 2024
    On 2024-07-01, James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
    1990! Commercial internet took the first baby steps towards the
    online utopia we now enjoy, Thatcher demonstrated to fellow Tories
    who truly enjoyed the Mandate of Heaven, and the world's supply of
    Germanies abruptly fell by half.

    Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
    The Healer's War by Elizabeth Ann Scarborough
    Good News from Outer Space by John Kessel
    Ivory by Mike Resnick
    Prentice Alvin by Orson Scott Card
    Sister Light, Sister Dark by Jane Yolen
    The Boat of a Million Years by Poul Anderson

    All but the Yolen. Can't say I really enjoyed the Anderson.

    This is last week's; I missed it then evidently.

    Read all. Didn't like the Anderson and thought I should like the Kessel,
    but it just didn't work for me.

    Probably the Yolen is the best of the bunch, though not a Favorite.
    James, you would appreciate much of the Yolen, including the far-future anthropological history excerpts looking back on the actions of the story, trying to interpret the evidence into a patriarchal framework when it
    is decidedly not.


    Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Novellas Have You Read?

    The Mountains of Mourning by Lois McMaster Bujold
    A Dozen Tough Jobs by Howard Waldrop
    A Touch of Lavender by Megan Lindholm
    Great Work of Time by John Crowley
    Marid Changes His Mind by George Alec Effinger
    Tiny Tango by Judith Moffett

    All but the Lindholm. There is strong correlation between me having
    read a story and Dozois having anthologized it.

    Only the Bujold, though I would like to read the Crowley and the Effinger
    (The Marid Audran series is a Favorite).


    Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Novelettes Have You Read?

    At the Rialto by Connie Willis
    Enter a Soldier. Later: Enter Another by Robert Silverberg
    Fast Cars by Kristine Kathryn Rusch
    For I Have Touched the Sky by Mike Resnick
    Silver Lady and the Fortyish Man by Megan Lindholm
    Sisters by Greg Bear

    All but the Rusch.

    None

    Which 1990 Nebula Finalist Short Stories Have You Read?

    Ripples in the Dirac Sea by Geoffrey A. Landis
    Boobs by Suzy McKee Charnas
    Dori Bangs by Bruce Sterling
    Lost Boys by Orson Scott Card
    The Adinkra Cloth by Mary C. Aldridge
    The Ommatidium Miniatures by Michael Bishop

    Just the first three. I am pretty sure there's no connection between
    the Card and the movies of the same name.
    None

    Chris

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