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    From Titus G@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 10 16:39:47 2024
    Durandal a sword said to be indestructible, the sharpest of all blades,
    once wielded by the knight Roland under Charlemagne, and thenceforth
    stuck in stone for 1,300 years, has disappeared from a French village.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/france-excalibur-like-sword-durandal-disappears-after-1300-years/

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  • From Charles Packer@21:1/5 to Titus G on Wed Jul 10 07:59:02 2024
    On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 16:39:47 +1200, Titus G wrote:

    Durandal a sword said to be indestructible, the sharpest of all blades,
    once wielded by the knight Roland under Charlemagne, and thenceforth
    stuck in stone for 1,300 years, has disappeared from a French village.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/france-excalibur-like-sword-durandal-
    disappears-after-1300-years/

    This seems to be the Year of France. The Olympics, the completion
    of repairs to Notre Dame (scheduled for December), the snap election
    which my favorite newspapers are telling me is Very Important, etc.
    Qu'est-ce que tu as d'autre ? (What else ya' got?)

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  • From James Nicoll@21:1/5 to mailbox@cpacker.org on Wed Jul 10 13:28:32 2024
    In article <pan$15ada$b17b006b$8e4dfa06$a66d03cf@cpacker.org>,
    Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:
    On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 16:39:47 +1200, Titus G wrote:

    Durandal a sword said to be indestructible, the sharpest of all blades,
    once wielded by the knight Roland under Charlemagne, and thenceforth
    stuck in stone for 1,300 years, has disappeared from a French village.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/france-excalibur-like-sword-durandal- >disappears-after-1300-years/

    This seems to be the Year of France. The Olympics, the completion
    of repairs to Notre Dame (scheduled for December), the snap election
    which my favorite newspapers are telling me is Very Important, etc.
    Qu'est-ce que tu as d'autre ? (What else ya' got?)

    Le Pen is up on charges, although this does not seem to be a new
    experience for her. Alleged embezzlement in the most recent case.
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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to mailbox@cpacker.org on Wed Jul 10 08:55:39 2024
    On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 07:59:02 -0000 (UTC), Charles Packer
    <mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:

    On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 16:39:47 +1200, Titus G wrote:

    Durandal a sword said to be indestructible, the sharpest of all blades,
    once wielded by the knight Roland under Charlemagne, and thenceforth
    stuck in stone for 1,300 years, has disappeared from a French village.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/france-excalibur-like-sword-durandal- >disappears-after-1300-years/

    This seems to be the Year of France. The Olympics, the completion
    of repairs to Notre Dame (scheduled for December), the snap election
    which my favorite newspapers are telling me is Very Important, etc.
    Qu'est-ce que tu as d'autre ? (What else ya' got?)

    It'll be interesting to see how the winner-takes-all Parliamentary
    system copes with a situation in neither the Left, the Right, nor the
    Center has control. No winner, no gummint?

    Perhaps another snap election? Perhaps this will the start of the
    Decade of Snap Elections, kind of like the periods where the Romans
    went through 10 or so Emperors in two years or so, at least in terms
    of social stability.

    From what I have read, the evil Right was only defeated by many self-sacrificing candidates withdrawing so as to concentrate the
    anti-Right vote on whoever else was on the ballot. Sounds like
    cheating to me, but then, I am not French and so not aware of how they
    regard it.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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  • From James Nicoll@21:1/5 to psperson@old.netcom.invalid on Wed Jul 10 16:28:11 2024
    In article <sdbt8j9mj5q85mi9uqaboqrebt7o5phjf8@4ax.com>,
    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
    On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 07:59:02 -0000 (UTC), Charles Packer ><mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:

    On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 16:39:47 +1200, Titus G wrote:

    Durandal a sword said to be indestructible, the sharpest of all blades,
    once wielded by the knight Roland under Charlemagne, and thenceforth
    stuck in stone for 1,300 years, has disappeared from a French village.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/france-excalibur-like-sword-durandal- >>disappears-after-1300-years/

    This seems to be the Year of France. The Olympics, the completion
    of repairs to Notre Dame (scheduled for December), the snap election
    which my favorite newspapers are telling me is Very Important, etc. >>Qu'est-ce que tu as d'autre ? (What else ya' got?)

    It'll be interesting to see how the winner-takes-all Parliamentary
    system copes with a situation in neither the Left, the Right, nor the
    Center has control. No winner, no gummint?

    Perhaps another snap election? Perhaps this will the start of the
    Decade of Snap Elections, kind of like the periods where the Romans
    went through 10 or so Emperors in two years or so, at least in terms
    of social stability.

    There are limits to how often snap elections can be called. Next
    one has to be at least a year from now. Macron seems to have traded a
    situation where he was more or less in control, with storm clouds on
    the horizon, to one where he is moderately fucked. Who dares, wins!

    France has had a hung national assembly before. It is still possible
    to pass legislation via 49.3, which "allows the government to impose
    the adoption of a text by the Assembly, immediately and without a vote,
    which the Assembly cannot oppose without toppling the government through
    a motion of no confidence under Clause 2." Obs this requires some group
    to be recognized as the government.

    A vote of no confidence would trigger an election, but I guess not one
    that meets the definition of a snap election.

    From what I have read, the evil Right was only defeated by many >self-sacrificing candidates withdrawing so as to concentrate the
    anti-Right vote on whoever else was on the ballot. Sounds like
    cheating to me, but then, I am not French and so not aware of how they
    regard it.

    The French might not agree on what they want but they were very clear
    on what they didn't want, and how to avoid it. Strategic voting is
    an accepted practice in French elections.
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  • From Don@21:1/5 to Titus G on Thu Jul 11 15:53:16 2024
    Titus G wrote:
    Durandal a sword said to be indestructible, the sharpest of all blades,
    once wielded by the knight Roland under Charlemagne, and thenceforth
    stuck in stone for 1,300 years, has disappeared from a French village.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/france-excalibur-like-sword-durandal-disappears-after-1300-years/

    The mythological Roland blew his horn, the Olifant, to signal
    Charlemagne. The sound carried for thirty leagues (90 miles). Such
    effort begot bright blood from Roland's' mouth as the veins in his
    temples and neck burst.

    Perry Rhodan faces a similar situation on the planet Roland, where
    Perry's small squad must endure physical pain to send a gravitational
    wave SOS:

    Perry Rhodan placed his finger on the small piece of
    metal. "Here goes," he said. "Hold your breath. We don’t
    know what will happen!"

    Rhodan increased the pressure of his finger. He felt the
    little lever begin to yield. For one second Perry Rhodan
    wondered why absolutely nothing happened. Then suddenly
    it felt as if someone had landed a powerful blow on his
    shoulders. His arm sank, his hand with it, and in the
    process his finger pulled the little lever all the way
    down.

    Somebody screamed. Perry Rhodan felt like screaming
    himself. Something was pushing him down with overpowering
    might. He lunged forward and tried to brace himself with
    his hands but a few moments later his arms buckled under.
    He fell headlong to the floor. The fall took away his
    breath and conjured a colourful world of fiery circles
    before his eyes.

    The pressure did not lessen. It squeezed the air out of
    Rhodan's lungs, making it almost impossible to breathe.
    Rhodan realized with painful clarity that he would have
    to undertake something if he were to avoid becoming
    unconscious.

    When he had depressed the lever he had anticipated so
    many things that he needed a few seconds to properly
    evaluate the effect it had actually produced.

    The organ was an antigrav generator. Pressing the lever
    resulted in a five or six-fold intensification of the
    artificial gravity field within the subterranean room.

    PR80 "Caves of the Druufs"

    "Do Gravitational Waves Exist?" (Einstein and Rosen)

    Einstein Versus the Physical Review

    Einstein stopped submitting work to the Physical Review after
    receiving a negative critique from the journal in response to
    a paper he had written with Rosen on gravitational waves later
    in 1936. That much has long been known, at least to the editors
    of Einstein's collected papers. But the story of Einstein's
    subsequent interaction with the referee in that case is not well
    known to physicists outside of the gravitational-wave community.
    Last March, the journal's current editor-in-chief, Martin Blume,
    and his colleagues uncovered the journal's logbook records from
    the era, a find that has confirmed the suspicions about that
    referee's identity. Moreover, the story raises the possibility
    that Einstein's gravitational-wave paper with Rosen may have
    been his only genuine encounter with anonymous peer review.
    Einstein, who reacted angrily to the referee report, would have
    been well advised to pay more attention to its criticisms, which
    proved to be valid. ...

    Einstein submitted this research to the Physical Review under
    the title "Do Gravitational Waves Exist?" with Rosen as coauthor.
    Although the original version of the paper no longer exists,
    Einstein's answer to the title question, to judge from his letter
    to Born, was "No." It is remarkable that at this stage in his
    career Einstein was prepared to believe that gravitational waves
    did not exist, but he also managed to convince his new assistant,
    Leopold Infeld, who replaced Rosen in 1936, that his argument was
    valid.

    (excerpt)

    <https://pubs.aip.org/physicstoday/article/58/9/43/399405/Einstein-Versus-the-Physical-Review-A-great>

    Danke,

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to wthyde1953@gmail.com on Thu Jul 11 09:11:53 2024
    On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 20:38:54 -0400, William Hyde
    <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:

    Paul S Person wrote:
    On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 07:59:02 -0000 (UTC), Charles Packer
    <mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:

    On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 16:39:47 +1200, Titus G wrote:

    Durandal a sword said to be indestructible, the sharpest of all blades, >>>> once wielded by the knight Roland under Charlemagne, and thenceforth
    stuck in stone for 1,300 years, has disappeared from a French village. >>>>
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/france-excalibur-like-sword-durandal-
    disappears-after-1300-years/

    This seems to be the Year of France. The Olympics, the completion
    of repairs to Notre Dame (scheduled for December), the snap election
    which my favorite newspapers are telling me is Very Important, etc.
    Qu'est-ce que tu as d'autre ? (What else ya' got?)

    It'll be interesting to see how the winner-takes-all Parliamentary
    system copes with a situation in neither the Left, the Right, nor the
    Center has control. No winner, no gummint?

    Perhaps another snap election? Perhaps this will the start of the
    Decade of Snap Elections, kind of like the periods where the Romans
    went through 10 or so Emperors in two years or so, at least in terms
    of social stability.

    From what I have read, the evil Right was only defeated by many
    self-sacrificing candidates withdrawing so as to concentrate the
    anti-Right vote on whoever else was on the ballot. Sounds like
    cheating to me,

    It isn't. It's not even suspect.

    If the British had followed the same practice (assuming for the moment
    that they have a two stage election), labour's seat total would be about >300, as opposed to 400+. Still a majority, but more representative of
    the vote in which left and centrist parties got a bare majority.

    In that event (purely hypothetical, as you point out), I would have
    accused them of "not playing the game".

    As to the French, perhaps they will move on to their 6th Republic.
    After, perhaps, a third (?) Empire or even another Restored Monarchy.
    French political history is nothing if not varied.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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  • From Mad Hamish@21:1/5 to psperson@old.netcom.invalid on Fri Jul 12 12:56:22 2024
    On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 08:55:39 -0700, Paul S Person
    <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

    On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 07:59:02 -0000 (UTC), Charles Packer ><mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:

    On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 16:39:47 +1200, Titus G wrote:

    Durandal a sword said to be indestructible, the sharpest of all blades,
    once wielded by the knight Roland under Charlemagne, and thenceforth
    stuck in stone for 1,300 years, has disappeared from a French village.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/france-excalibur-like-sword-durandal- >>disappears-after-1300-years/

    This seems to be the Year of France. The Olympics, the completion
    of repairs to Notre Dame (scheduled for December), the snap election
    which my favorite newspapers are telling me is Very Important, etc. >>Qu'est-ce que tu as d'autre ? (What else ya' got?)

    It'll be interesting to see how the winner-takes-all Parliamentary
    system copes with a situation in neither the Left, the Right, nor the
    Center has control. No winner, no gummint?

    Perhaps another snap election? Perhaps this will the start of the
    Decade of Snap Elections, kind of like the periods where the Romans
    went through 10 or so Emperors in two years or so, at least in terms
    of social stability.

    From what I have read, the evil Right was only defeated by many >self-sacrificing candidates withdrawing so as to concentrate the
    anti-Right vote on whoever else was on the ballot. Sounds like
    cheating to me, but then, I am not French and so not aware of how they
    regard it.

    I'm not sure that anybody is under an obligation to run for
    election...

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  • From Titus G@21:1/5 to Don on Fri Jul 12 16:58:31 2024
    On 12/07/24 03:53, Don wrote:
    Titus G wrote:
    Durandal a sword said to be indestructible, the sharpest of all blades,
    once wielded by the knight Roland under Charlemagne, and thenceforth
    stuck in stone for 1,300 years, has disappeared from a French village.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/france-excalibur-like-sword-durandal-disappears-after-1300-years/

    The mythological Roland blew his horn, the Olifant, to signal
    Charlemagne. The sound carried for thirty leagues (90 miles). Such
    effort begot bright blood from Roland's' mouth as the veins in his
    temples and neck burst.

    Perry Rhodan faces a similar situation on the planet Roland, where
    Perry's small squad must endure physical pain to send a gravitational
    wave SOS:

    To summarise. Perry Rhodan dislodged the sword using a gravitational
    wave. Einstein argued that gravitational waves did not exist. But the
    sword has disappeared, therefore gravitational waves exist.

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to newsunspammelaws@iinet.unspamme.net on Fri Jul 12 08:50:58 2024
    On Fri, 12 Jul 2024 12:56:22 +1000, Mad Hamish <newsunspammelaws@iinet.unspamme.net.au> wrote:

    On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 08:55:39 -0700, Paul S Person ><psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

    On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 07:59:02 -0000 (UTC), Charles Packer >><mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:

    On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 16:39:47 +1200, Titus G wrote:

    Durandal a sword said to be indestructible, the sharpest of all blades, >>>> once wielded by the knight Roland under Charlemagne, and thenceforth
    stuck in stone for 1,300 years, has disappeared from a French village. >>>>
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/france-excalibur-like-sword-durandal- >>>disappears-after-1300-years/

    This seems to be the Year of France. The Olympics, the completion
    of repairs to Notre Dame (scheduled for December), the snap election >>>which my favorite newspapers are telling me is Very Important, etc. >>>Qu'est-ce que tu as d'autre ? (What else ya' got?)

    It'll be interesting to see how the winner-takes-all Parliamentary
    system copes with a situation in neither the Left, the Right, nor the >>Center has control. No winner, no gummint?

    Perhaps another snap election? Perhaps this will the start of the
    Decade of Snap Elections, kind of like the periods where the Romans
    went through 10 or so Emperors in two years or so, at least in terms
    of social stability.

    From what I have read, the evil Right was only defeated by many >>self-sacrificing candidates withdrawing so as to concentrate the
    anti-Right vote on whoever else was on the ballot. Sounds like
    cheating to me, but then, I am not French and so not aware of how they >>regard it.

    I'm not sure that anybody is under an obligation to run for
    election...

    These were already on the ballot and had participated in the first
    round.

    They withdrew after the first round but before the second.

    So clearly they were not under a /legal/ obligation to stay the
    course, but I would wonder about an ethical obligation to their Party
    and supporters. Well, I would if they were not French, anyway.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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  • From Don@21:1/5 to Titus G on Fri Jul 12 17:59:00 2024
    Titus G wrote:
    Don wrote:
    Titus G wrote:
    Durandal a sword said to be indestructible, the sharpest of all blades,
    once wielded by the knight Roland under Charlemagne, and thenceforth
    stuck in stone for 1,300 years, has disappeared from a French village.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/france-excalibur-like-sword-durandal-disappears-after-1300-years/

    The mythological Roland blew his horn, the Olifant, to signal
    Charlemagne. The sound carried for thirty leagues (90 miles). Such
    effort begot bright blood from Roland's' mouth as the veins in his
    temples and neck burst.

    Perry Rhodan faces a similar situation on the planet Roland, where
    Perry's small squad must endure physical pain to send a gravitational
    wave SOS:

    To summarise. Perry Rhodan dislodged the sword using a gravitational
    wave. Einstein argued that gravitational waves did not exist. But the
    sword has disappeared, therefore gravitational waves exist.

    Perry gravity waved the sword away, IOW.

    ROTFLMAO.

    Danke,

    --
    Don.......My cat's )\._.,--....,'``. https://crcomp.net/reviews.php telltale tall tail /, _.. \ _\ (`._ ,. Walk humbly with thy God.
    tells tall tales.. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.' Make 1984 fiction again.

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