• (ReacTor) Over the Hill: Five Not-So-Youthful SFF Protagonists

    From James Nicoll@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 18 14:25:11 2024
    Over the Hill: Five Not-So-Youthful SFF Protagonists

    Protagonists in their late twenties or even older are still alive
    in many senses of the word, and can still have adventures, of a sort.

    Brought to you by a conversation I overheard between teens.

    https://reactormag.com/over-the-hill-five-not-so-youthful-sff-protagonists/
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  • From Robert Woodward@21:1/5 to James Nicoll on Thu Jul 18 09:48:34 2024
    In article <v7b8k7$d1l$1@panix2.panix.com>,
    jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:

    Over the Hill: Five Not-So-Youthful SFF Protagonists

    Protagonists in their late twenties or even older are still alive
    in many senses of the word, and can still have adventures, of a sort.

    Brought to you by a conversation I overheard between teens.

    https://reactormag.com/over-the-hill-five-not-so-youthful-sff-protagonists/

    I was going to add a few titles in the comments, but various people
    named each one that I had thought of.

    --
    "We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
    Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_. ‹-----------------------------------------------------
    Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com

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  • From Garrett Wollman@21:1/5 to wthyde1953@gmail.com on Thu Jul 18 22:13:11 2024
    In article <v7c210$2jmsq$1@dont-email.me>,
    William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:

    Leaving out immortals or quasi/immortals:

    In Julian May's Galactic Milieu, regeneration treatment seems to be
    both reliable and commonplace, so humans only die of old age because
    they've chosen not to undertake the treatment. (Still plenty of other
    causes of death, like physical trauma.)

    In Saunders' Commonweal there are evidently a number of species that
    do not senesce, which is distinguished from immortality in some
    unexplained technical sense. Other species have significantly different-from-human-norm lifespans that have the same statistical
    structure as ordinary-model humans but with different expected length.

    It is notable that so many sff civilizations seem to be stuck in the
    mode of "people live for 75 +/- 10 Earth years". I suppose it's easy
    enough to carry that assumption into your worldbuilding if that's not
    something you expicitly set out to reconsider.

    -GAWollman

    --
    Garrett A. Wollman | "Act to avoid constraining the future; if you can, wollman@bimajority.org| act to remove constraint from the future. This is Opinions not shared by| a thing you can do, are able to do, to do together."
    my employers. | - Graydon Saunders, _A Succession of Bad Days_ (2015)

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  • From David Duffy@21:1/5 to James Nicoll on Thu Jul 18 23:33:51 2024
    James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
    Over the Hill: Five Not-So-Youthful SFF Protagonists

    Brought to you by a conversation I overheard between teens.

    In numerous Chinese webnovels, the teenage protagonists are put off
    by being hit on by young-looking multicentenarians.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Lynn McGuire on Thu Jul 18 17:54:05 2024
    On 7/18/2024 2:37 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 7/18/2024 4:36 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 7/18/2024 9:25 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
    Over the Hill: Five Not-So-Youthful SFF Protagonists

    Protagonists in their late twenties or even older are still alive
    in many senses of the word, and can still have adventures, of a sort.

    Brought to you by a conversation I overheard between teens.

    https://reactormag.com/over-the-hill-five-not-so-youthful-sff-protagonists/ >>
    I have read "Little Fuzzy" and "Memory", both excellent books.

    An excellent addition to this list would be would be "The Forever
    Hero: Dawn for a Distant Earth, The Silent Warrior, In Endless
    Twilight" by L. E. Modesitt Jr.

    Lynn

    Forgot the URL:

    https://www.amazon.com/Forever-Hero-Distant-Warrior-Twilight/dp/0312868383/

    No.

    Just because the title is too long.

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From Don_from_AZ@21:1/5 to William Hyde on Thu Jul 18 19:42:49 2024
    William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> writes:

    James Nicoll wrote:
    Over the Hill: Five Not-So-Youthful SFF Protagonists
    Protagonists in their late twenties or even older are still alive
    in many senses of the word, and can still have adventures, of a sort.
    Brought to you by a conversation I overheard between teens.
    https://reactormag.com/over-the-hill-five-not-so-youthful-sff-protagonists/ >>

    Leaving out immortals or quasi/immortals:


    Captain Henry of Laumer and Dickson's "Planet Run" is 135, though a
    dangerous rejuvenation treatment at the beginning of the book reduces
    his physical age. He is not immortal as each treatment has an
    increasing chance of being fatal.

    Louis Wu is 200 in the later stories.

    Heinlein had quite a few older protagonists, even ignoring LL. Jubal Harshaw, for example.

    In Anderson's last Flandry book, the hero is rather getting on, though
    young for his age and Van Rijn is never young.

    Vance's protagonists were a pretty active bunch, but IIRC Magnus
    Ridolph was at least in late middle age.

    William Hyde

    Has anyone yet mentioned Lucas Garner, from Niven's ARM stories?

    -Don-

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  • From Default User@21:1/5 to James Nicoll on Fri Jul 19 04:18:51 2024
    James Nicoll wrote:

    Over the Hill: Five Not-So-Youthful SFF Protagonists

    Protagonists in their late twenties or even older are still alive
    in many senses of the word, and can still have adventures, of a sort.

    Nathan Brazil of the Well World books is I guess billions of years old?
    It's a little uncertain as to how much time passes whenever he reboots
    the Universe.


    Brian

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 19 19:34:43 2024
    On 18 Jul 2024 14:25:11 -0000, jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll)
    wrote:

    Over the Hill: Five Not-So-Youthful SFF Protagonists

    Protagonists in their late twenties or even older are still alive
    in many senses of the word, and can still have adventures, of a sort.

    Brought to you by a conversation I overheard between teens.

    https://reactormag.com/over-the-hill-five-not-so-youthful-sff-protagonists/

    One wonders what these kids would think of Lazarus Long

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  • From John Savard@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 19 23:37:48 2024
    On 18 Jul 2024 14:25:11 -0000, jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll)
    wrote:

    Over the Hill: Five Not-So-Youthful SFF Protagonists

    Protagonists in their late twenties or even older are still alive
    in many senses of the word, and can still have adventures, of a sort.

    Brought to you by a conversation I overheard between teens.

    https://reactormag.com/over-the-hill-five-not-so-youthful-sff-protagonists/

    Being sixty-eight years of age, I found the piece comical.

    John Savard

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to quadibloc@servername.invalid on Sun Jul 21 22:47:44 2024
    On Fri, 19 Jul 2024 23:37:48 -0600, John Savard
    <quadibloc@servername.invalid> wrote:

    On 18 Jul 2024 14:25:11 -0000, jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll)
    wrote:

    Over the Hill: Five Not-So-Youthful SFF Protagonists

    Protagonists in their late twenties or even older are still alive
    in many senses of the word, and can still have adventures, of a sort.

    Brought to you by a conversation I overheard between teens.
    https://reactormag.com/over-the-hill-five-not-so-youthful-sff-protagonists/

    Being sixty-eight years of age, I found the piece comical.

    John Savard

    As did I - being the same age. Went through that page and realized the
    ONLY one of the books I had read there was the Miles Vorkosigan book -
    and am enough of a fan of Bujold's work that I am sad I got rid of the
    issue of Analog (or was it Asimov's? Can't remember - I subscribed
    both but ended my subscriptions when I started grad school as I had to
    move every 4 months for 2 1/2 years...) where the first story in the
    series was published.

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