• Re: Influx of non-San Franciscans living on SF streets, data shows

    From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to Siri Cruise on Sat Aug 10 08:05:54 2024
    On 8/5/24 16:06, Siri Cruise wrote:
    Bobbie Sellers wrote:
    On 8/4/24 07:04, pothead wrote:

    There's a law to let the president ignore asylum requests during
    pandemics. That was used to reduce asylum requests, but the non-asylum entries in two thousand miles of desert continued.

    With COVID under control, the law cannot be used. By Biden. The bill
    House Magoos rejected at the command of Don Felon, would let the
    president reject asylum requestors if the influx was too high. This
    would give Biden a tool similar to what Don Felon had. Magoos rejected
    that because they don't want the border to be controlled.

    Is it under control? Only in the sense that peple are not
    dying in such numbers that they need additional facilities for morgues
    Still some dying of my age group. Others younger are geting long
    Covid but I beat them in 1986 when my Systemic Exertional Intolerance
    Disease became manifest. Always running downhill ahead of the pack...


    Biden made an executive order to do what the law would have allowed and asylum requests have dropped the way Magoos have been demanding. Whether
    the EOs will survive judicial review will wait until after the election.

    2. Send the illegals back to their home country.

         Which ones?  The people who crossed illegally last week or the
    people imported here at an early age and who are productive members of
    society paying more taxes than Trump ever did or who do

    It costs a lot to bring a person from child to adult, and it is the
    adult form that pays taxes to get a return on investment. Magoos are anti-capitalists with no understanding of business. They would rather celebrate their fear and bigotry then do the smart thing.

    I do not fear immigrants, but if they are deportable, that is the law.
    But the Constitution requires due process which means an immigration
    court hearing. Magoos refuse to pay for courts, so immigrants remain
    until their hearing. Ted Cruz et al have stated publicly they want immigration court backlogged so hearings cannot be scheduled. They want
    this problem to campaign on their voters's bigotry.

         Trump never helped Veterans in any way as by his statements he
    considers them "losers and suckers".  Bidennomics so far is a

    I feel we would have fewer wars if young adults were less willing to
    fight wars for gray old men. But when break their bodies for our
    profits, we should be obligated to help them out.

    Cprrect! we should even though a lot of people enter the military service for lack of anything else to do to earn a living.
    But the anti-Federal Goverment forces emboldened by Grover Norquist
    are fighting to keep from paying their share of taxes. All of the
    very richest people in the world made more money while we went
    through the Covid-19 Pandemic. Literally billions as we became
    dependent on deliveries were raked in by the billionaires.


    Why do progressives seem to take care of everyone other than legal US
    citizens first?
    Why does America seem to come last under democrat administrations?

         You need to get better sources of information. I am a legal
    citizen born in 1937 in the State of Washington and living on Social
    Security in San Francisco.  If the reactionary state governments

    Boo! Hiss! Santa Clara County!

    What have they done that is more evil than any other
    county?


    usually
    Republican would accept the Medicaid extensions and take care of their
    poorest citizens properly you would see that the US Federal government

    Everybody who gets a salary in the US pays FICA regardless of
    citizenship, residency status, immigration status. Citizenship only gets
    us a tiny number of privileges.

    Not privileges but rights. Like the right to vote for a sane
    government not one who headed by a felown who conflates Jerry Brown and
    Willy Brown. It should be easy enough to tell them apart.

    One is dark and the other is pale, one was govenor 4 times, 2 X as
    youth with great foresight and one was a legislator who was strong
    on civil rights and was in power for years before the Term Limits
    passed, one a mayor of Oakland and the other the Mayor of San Francisco.

    Willie is not quite a hero of mine as he said in his Mayoral term that
    poor people like me should leave San Francisco.

    Jerry was a hero of mine in our youth for his modest lifestyle and
    idealism and in my eleder years by being good enough to convicce
    us voters to raise our taxes.


    Oh and SF like other so called sanctuary cities, like NYC for
    example, are only getting what they
    deserve.

         What do you think we are getting here?  I live in San Francisco. >> Our economy was disrupted by Covid-19 and work at home. Thousands of
    people came into town by car, bus, trains, ferry boats and BART
    to work in office towers and eat in small restaurants.

    California is a sanctuary state.

    And justice for all.

    RWNJ read that as "Just Us" for and others unconsciously
    discriminate against people outside the WASP standard.


         Remember abortions may be a convenience to the rich but to the
    poor they may be life-saving procedures.  The production of new human
    persons is fraught with difficulties which people unfamiliar with
    the medical details cannot begin to imagine.
         As an example of what abortion restrictions have accomplished to >> date:UNITED STATES HAS HIGHEST MATERNAL DEATH RATES

    Women never die in childbirth. That only happens third world shit holes.

    I must assume satire or irony is intended. The truth is
    below and note that black women have the worst time with prenancy.

    <https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/8/5/2260803/-UNITED-STATES-HAS-HIGHEST-MATERNAL-DEATH-RATES>

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 11 13:22:31 2024
    What does this have to do with SF?

    It makes perfect sense. If I were homeless in Michigan or Minnesota or some other place with lethal winters, I would definitely try to get to San Francisco or Florida or some place far more temperate.
    --scott

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to Scott Dorsey on Mon Aug 12 16:25:00 2024
    On 8/11/24 06:22, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    What does this have to do with SF?

    It makes perfect sense. If I were homeless in Michigan or Minnesota or some other place with lethal winters, I would definitely try to get to San Francisco
    or Florida or some place far more temperate.
    --scott

    Obviously this was accidentally posted to the SF.written rather than one or two groups where I am constantly explaining San Francisco
    to idiots who believe that the free-wheeling city of the past is
    collapsing. I have live in San Francisco for about 67 years now having
    moved here in 1967 when I hit 30 yoa.

    My apologies on my erroneous direction of that emai.
    bliss
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  • From James Nicoll@21:1/5 to blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.co on Tue Aug 13 00:40:27 2024
    In article <v9e5kc$3gs64$1@dont-email.me>,
    Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
    On 8/11/24 06:22, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    What does this have to do with SF?

    It makes perfect sense. If I were homeless in Michigan or Minnesota or some >> other place with lethal winters, I would definitely try to get to San Francisco
    or Florida or some place far more temperate.
    --scott

    Obviously this was accidentally posted to the SF.written rather than
    one or two groups where I am constantly explaining San Francisco
    to idiots who believe that the free-wheeling city of the past is
    collapsing. I have live in San Francisco for about 67 years now having
    moved here in 1967 when I hit 30 yoa.

    My apologies on my erroneous direction of that emai.
    bliss

    Oddly, weather and climate was part of the reason my father moved
    from the Bay Area to Ontario. He thought the weather and the climate
    were insipid, whereas if you fuck up outdoors at the wrong time,
    Ontario _will_ kill you.


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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 13 00:39:17 2024
    On 13 Aug 2024 00:40:27 -0000, jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll)
    wrote:

    Oddly, weather and climate was part of the reason my father moved
    from the Bay Area to Ontario. He thought the weather and the climate
    were insipid, whereas if you fuck up outdoors at the wrong time,
    Ontario _will_ kill you.

    Besides 4 years in Ontario (grad school + 2 years in first job) I also
    spent 4 years in Winnipeg when we were first married. Which turned out
    to be a good deal for us since her folks were in Ontario, mine in BC
    which meant they were extra happy to see us when they did and by the
    time we eventually moved to BC we had been married long enough that we
    were set in our ways.

    I remember one year my grandparents (in AZ) and us both asked my Mom
    to arrange plane tickets to bring us home for Christmas. Naturally she
    arranged them 1/2 hour apart to save her 2 trips to the airport - we
    were flying in from Winnipeg, them from Tucson and as soon as we
    exited the terminal, we pealed off our coats while they were
    frantically putting theirs on. (Have lived in 4 provinces, worked
    short term in 3 others)

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