• Bullard of the Space Patrol

    From Don_from_AZ@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 14 21:24:50 2024
    Recent posts involving libraries and how people got started reading SF
    got me thinking about my first experiences in finding books at the
    library. I'm sure I encountered Asimov and Heinlein there fairly early
    on, but the book that made the earliest strong impression was "Bullard
    of the Space Patrol" by Malcolm Jameson. "Who?" you may well ask. Not
    nearly as well known as other Golden Age authors, he apparently wrote
    mostly short stories and novellas.

    A series of short stories involving the space naval career of the
    eponymous Bullard[1], from Lieutenant to Admiral, was collected in
    "Bullard of the Space Patrol", edited by Andre Norton. The one that
    stuck with me longest was "Bullard Reflects", in which Bullard and his
    crew were captured by space pirates, turned loose weaponless in
    spacesuits to be hunted down for sport. Bullard turns the tables on the
    bad guys in a quite surprising and clever way.

    Curious to see if I could find this book again, I googled Bullard and
    Malcolm Jameson and found quite a few references online, in ISFDB,
    Wikipedia and elsewhere.

    https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?448
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_Jameson

    Not only that, but the "Bullard of the Space Patrol" book is available
    in hardcover online for prices up to $60 and even $100 dollars! Even
    more surprising, a Kindle ebook version from Amazon at only $2.99!
    (Guess which one I bought.) I am about to discover how well the stories
    have held up in the 65 years since I first encountered them.
    -Don-
    -----------------------
    [1] I am not sure his first name was ever mentioned: he is always
    referred to as "Bullard", or by his rank.

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  • From Robert Woodward@21:1/5 to djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid on Wed Aug 14 22:26:30 2024
    In article <87msle9zvx.fsf@comcast.net.invalid>,
    Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> wrote:

    Recent posts involving libraries and how people got started reading SF
    got me thinking about my first experiences in finding books at the
    library. I'm sure I encountered Asimov and Heinlein there fairly early
    on, but the book that made the earliest strong impression was "Bullard
    of the Space Patrol" by Malcolm Jameson. "Who?" you may well ask. Not
    nearly as well known as other Golden Age authors, he apparently wrote
    mostly short stories and novellas.

    A series of short stories involving the space naval career of the
    eponymous Bullard[1], from Lieutenant to Admiral, was collected in
    "Bullard of the Space Patrol", edited by Andre Norton. The one that
    stuck with me longest was "Bullard Reflects", in which Bullard and his
    crew were captured by space pirates, turned loose weaponless in
    spacesuits to be hunted down for sport. Bullard turns the tables on the
    bad guys in a quite surprising and clever way.


    IIRC, one of the stories in that collection wasn't a Bullard story in
    the original magazine publication. The main character's name was changed
    for the collection.

    Curious to see if I could find this book again, I googled Bullard and
    Malcolm Jameson and found quite a few references online, in ISFDB,
    Wikipedia and elsewhere.

    https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?448
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_Jameson

    Not only that, but the "Bullard of the Space Patrol" book is available
    in hardcover online for prices up to $60 and even $100 dollars! Even
    more surprising, a Kindle ebook version from Amazon at only $2.99!
    (Guess which one I bought.) I am about to discover how well the stories
    have held up in the 65 years since I first encountered them.
    -Don-

    If the e-book you bought was _Bullard: Tales of the Space Patrol_, it
    has a short story and a short-short that didn't appear in the early
    1950s hardcover. It also has an article on space warfare published in
    1939 that, IMHO, holds up very well.

    --
    "We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
    Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_. -------------------------------------------------------
    Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com

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  • From Don_from_AZ@21:1/5 to Robert Woodward on Thu Aug 15 08:41:43 2024
    Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> writes:

    In article <87msle9zvx.fsf@comcast.net.invalid>,
    Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> wrote:

    Recent posts involving libraries and how people got started reading SF
    got me thinking about my first experiences in finding books at the
    library. I'm sure I encountered Asimov and Heinlein there fairly early
    on, but the book that made the earliest strong impression was "Bullard
    of the Space Patrol" by Malcolm Jameson. "Who?" you may well ask. Not
    nearly as well known as other Golden Age authors, he apparently wrote
    mostly short stories and novellas.

    A series of short stories involving the space naval career of the
    eponymous Bullard[1], from Lieutenant to Admiral, was collected in
    "Bullard of the Space Patrol", edited by Andre Norton. The one that
    stuck with me longest was "Bullard Reflects", in which Bullard and his
    crew were captured by space pirates, turned loose weaponless in
    spacesuits to be hunted down for sport. Bullard turns the tables on the
    bad guys in a quite surprising and clever way.


    IIRC, one of the stories in that collection wasn't a Bullard story in
    the original magazine publication. The main character's name was changed
    for the collection.

    Curious to see if I could find this book again, I googled Bullard and
    Malcolm Jameson and found quite a few references online, in ISFDB,
    Wikipedia and elsewhere.

    https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?448
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_Jameson

    Not only that, but the "Bullard of the Space Patrol" book is available
    in hardcover online for prices up to $60 and even $100 dollars! Even
    more surprising, a Kindle ebook version from Amazon at only $2.99!
    (Guess which one I bought.) I am about to discover how well the stories
    have held up in the 65 years since I first encountered them.
    -Don-

    If the e-book you bought was _Bullard: Tales of the Space Patrol_, it
    has a short story and a short-short that didn't appear in the early
    1950s hardcover. It also has an article on space warfare published in
    1939 that, IMHO, holds up very well.

    Yes, that's the one. It has ten stories and two articles: "Space War
    Tactics" and "Space War Strategy".
    -Don-

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  • From Mike Van Pelt@21:1/5 to djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid on Fri Aug 16 03:58:56 2024
    In article <87msle9zvx.fsf@comcast.net.invalid>,
    Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> wrote:
    ... but the book that made the earliest strong impression was "Bullard
    of the Space Patrol" by Malcolm Jameson. "Who?" you may well ask. Not
    nearly as well known as other Golden Age authors, he apparently wrote
    mostly short stories and novellas.

    I've read "Bullard Reflects" in another anthology. I've long
    wanted to get a copy of the other Bullard stories, once I
    found that there were more, but not at $100.

    I'm definitely going to go get the ebook!

    (Likewise, I'm not sure how well these hold up. Probably OK, since
    I don't demand that Golden Age authors write 2020s stories with
    2020s sensibilities back in the 30s and 40s.)
    --
    Mike Van Pelt | "I don't advise it unless you're nuts."
    mvp at calweb.com | -- Ray Wilkinson, after riding out Hurricane
    KE6BVH | Ike on Surfside Beach in Galveston

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  • From James Nicoll@21:1/5 to usenet@mikevanpelt.com on Fri Aug 16 13:46:12 2024
    In article <v9mipv$1a8tp$2@dont-email.me>,
    Mike Van Pelt <usenet@mikevanpelt.com> wrote:
    In article <87msle9zvx.fsf@comcast.net.invalid>,
    Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> wrote:
    ... but the book that made the earliest strong impression was "Bullard
    of the Space Patrol" by Malcolm Jameson. "Who?" you may well ask. Not >>nearly as well known as other Golden Age authors, he apparently wrote >>mostly short stories and novellas.

    I've read "Bullard Reflects" in another anthology. I've long
    wanted to get a copy of the other Bullard stories, once I
    found that there were more, but not at $100.

    I'm definitely going to go get the ebook!

    (Likewise, I'm not sure how well these hold up. Probably OK, since
    I don't demand that Golden Age authors write 2020s stories with
    2020s sensibilities back in the 30s and 40s.)

    How annoying. There does not seem to be a Kobo edition.

    --
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  • From Lee Gleason@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 16 09:20:40 2024
    On 8/14/2024 11:24 PM, Don_from_AZ wrote:
    Recent posts involving libraries and how people got started reading SF
    got me thinking about my first experiences in finding books at the
    library. I'm sure I encountered Asimov and Heinlein there fairly early
    on, but the book that made the earliest strong impression was "Bullard
    of the Space Patrol" by Malcolm Jameson. "Who?" you may well ask. Not
    nearly as well known as other Golden Age authors, he apparently wrote
    mostly short stories and novellas.


    I remember reading this when from the library, so many years ago. This
    talk about it reminds me that there was another novel/collection of
    stories out at about the same time, that was similar - the
    (mis)adventures of a young Space officer. Anyone recall this other set
    of stories? I remember there was one story where the young officer
    subdued a gang of space pirates by dosing them with oxytocin, which made
    them too friendly to continue with taking the ship.

    --
    Lee K. Gleason N5ZMR
    Control-G Consultants
    lee.gleason@comcast.net

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  • From Ted Nolan @21:1/5 to lee.gleason@comcast.net on Fri Aug 16 15:21:52 2024
    In article <XeJvO.486231$MC82.108243@fx17.iad>,
    Lee Gleason <lee.gleason@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 8/14/2024 11:24 PM, Don_from_AZ wrote:
    Recent posts involving libraries and how people got started reading SF
    got me thinking about my first experiences in finding books at the
    library. I'm sure I encountered Asimov and Heinlein there fairly early
    on, but the book that made the earliest strong impression was "Bullard
    of the Space Patrol" by Malcolm Jameson. "Who?" you may well ask. Not
    nearly as well known as other Golden Age authors, he apparently wrote
    mostly short stories and novellas.


    I remember reading this when from the library, so many years ago. This
    talk about it reminds me that there was another novel/collection of
    stories out at about the same time, that was similar - the
    (mis)adventures of a young Space officer. Anyone recall this other set
    of stories? I remember there was one story where the young officer
    subdued a gang of space pirates by dosing them with oxytocin, which made
    them too friendly to continue with taking the ship.


    Lancelot Biggs.
    --
    columbiaclosings.com
    What's not in Columbia anymore..

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  • From Don_from_AZ@21:1/5 to James Nicoll on Fri Aug 16 08:49:35 2024
    jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) writes:

    In article <v9mipv$1a8tp$2@dont-email.me>,
    Mike Van Pelt <usenet@mikevanpelt.com> wrote:
    In article <87msle9zvx.fsf@comcast.net.invalid>,
    Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> wrote:
    ... but the book that made the earliest strong impression was "Bullard >>>of the Space Patrol" by Malcolm Jameson. "Who?" you may well ask. Not >>>nearly as well known as other Golden Age authors, he apparently wrote >>>mostly short stories and novellas.

    I've read "Bullard Reflects" in another anthology. I've long
    wanted to get a copy of the other Bullard stories, once I
    found that there were more, but not at $100.

    I'm definitely going to go get the ebook!

    (Likewise, I'm not sure how well these hold up. Probably OK, since
    I don't demand that Golden Age authors write 2020s stories with
    2020s sensibilities back in the 30s and 40s.)

    How annoying. There does not seem to be a Kobo edition.

    I loaded the Amazon ebook into my Calibre library without issue (i.e. it
    does not seem to have DRM encryption). It shows up as type
    "PRC". Calibre should be able to convert it to something you can use.
    -Don-

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  • From Don_from_AZ@21:1/5 to Lee Gleason on Fri Aug 16 08:56:36 2024
    Lee Gleason <lee.gleason@comcast.net> writes:

    On 8/14/2024 11:24 PM, Don_from_AZ wrote:
    Recent posts involving libraries and how people got started reading SF
    got me thinking about my first experiences in finding books at the
    library. I'm sure I encountered Asimov and Heinlein there fairly early
    on, but the book that made the earliest strong impression was "Bullard
    of the Space Patrol" by Malcolm Jameson. "Who?" you may well ask. Not
    nearly as well known as other Golden Age authors, he apparently wrote
    mostly short stories and novellas.


    I remember reading this when from the library, so many years
    ago. This talk about it reminds me that there was another
    novel/collection of stories out at about the same time, that was
    similar - the (mis)adventures of a young Space officer. Anyone recall
    this other set of stories? I remember there was one story where the
    young officer subdued a gang of space pirates by dosing them with
    oxytocin, which made them too friendly to continue with taking the
    ship.

    --
    Lee K. Gleason N5ZMR
    Control-G Consultants
    lee.gleason@comcast.net

    Could this be the "John Grimes" of the Survey Service series by
    A. Bertram Chandler? Similar space opera circumstances, but Bullard was confined to the Solar System, whereas Grimes had FTL and many more
    planets to explore.
    -Don-

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  • From Robert Woodward@21:1/5 to James Nicoll on Fri Aug 16 10:06:14 2024
    In article <v9nl73$skn$1@reader1.panix.com>,
    jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:

    In article <v9mipv$1a8tp$2@dont-email.me>,
    Mike Van Pelt <usenet@mikevanpelt.com> wrote:
    In article <87msle9zvx.fsf@comcast.net.invalid>,
    Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> wrote:
    ... but the book that made the earliest strong impression was "Bullard >>of the Space Patrol" by Malcolm Jameson. "Who?" you may well ask. Not >>nearly as well known as other Golden Age authors, he apparently wrote >>mostly short stories and novellas.

    I've read "Bullard Reflects" in another anthology. I've long
    wanted to get a copy of the other Bullard stories, once I
    found that there were more, but not at $100.

    I'm definitely going to go get the ebook!

    (Likewise, I'm not sure how well these hold up. Probably OK, since
    I don't demand that Golden Age authors write 2020s stories with
    2020s sensibilities back in the 30s and 40s.)

    How annoying. There does not seem to be a Kobo edition.

    Does Kobo have a Malcolm Jameson MEGAPACK for sale? It has most of the
    stories (but not the Space War articles) that are in _Bullard: Tales of
    the Space Patrol_. I will note that the Bullard stories are very much a reflection of the pre-WWII US Navy for better or worse.

    --
    "We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
    Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_. ‹-----------------------------------------------------
    Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com

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  • From James Nicoll@21:1/5 to robertaw@drizzle.com on Fri Aug 16 18:29:37 2024
    In article <robertaw-84952B.10061416082024@news.individual.net>,
    Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:
    In article <v9nl73$skn$1@reader1.panix.com>,
    jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:

    In article <v9mipv$1a8tp$2@dont-email.me>,
    Mike Van Pelt <usenet@mikevanpelt.com> wrote:
    In article <87msle9zvx.fsf@comcast.net.invalid>,
    Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> wrote:
    ... but the book that made the earliest strong impression was "Bullard
    of the Space Patrol" by Malcolm Jameson. "Who?" you may well ask. Not
    nearly as well known as other Golden Age authors, he apparently wrote
    mostly short stories and novellas.

    I've read "Bullard Reflects" in another anthology. I've long
    wanted to get a copy of the other Bullard stories, once I
    found that there were more, but not at $100.

    I'm definitely going to go get the ebook!

    (Likewise, I'm not sure how well these hold up. Probably OK, since
    I don't demand that Golden Age authors write 2020s stories with
    2020s sensibilities back in the 30s and 40s.)

    How annoying. There does not seem to be a Kobo edition.

    Does Kobo have a Malcolm Jameson MEGAPACK for sale? It has most of the >stories (but not the Space War articles) that are in _Bullard: Tales of
    the Space Patrol_. I will note that the Bullard stories are very much a >reflection of the pre-WWII US Navy for better or worse.

    Thank you. It's the space war article I want so I will take a chance
    on the Amazon ebook.
    --
    My reviews can be found at http://jamesdavisnicoll.com/
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  • From Lee Gleason@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 16 20:51:33 2024
    On 8/16/2024 10:21 AM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <XeJvO.486231$MC82.108243@fx17.iad>,
    Lee Gleason <lee.gleason@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 8/14/2024 11:24 PM, Don_from_AZ wrote:
    Recent posts involving libraries and how people got started reading SF
    got me thinking about my first experiences in finding books at the
    library. I'm sure I encountered Asimov and Heinlein there fairly early
    on, but the book that made the earliest strong impression was "Bullard
    of the Space Patrol" by Malcolm Jameson. "Who?" you may well ask. Not
    nearly as well known as other Golden Age authors, he apparently wrote
    mostly short stories and novellas.


    I remember reading this when from the library, so many years ago. This
    talk about it reminds me that there was another novel/collection of
    stories out at about the same time, that was similar - the
    (mis)adventures of a young Space officer. Anyone recall this other set
    of stories? I remember there was one story where the young officer
    subdued a gang of space pirates by dosing them with oxytocin, which made
    them too friendly to continue with taking the ship.


    Lancelot Biggs.

    That's it! Thanks!

    --
    Lee K. Gleason N5ZMR
    Control-G Consultants
    lee.gleason@comcast.net

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  • From Mike Van Pelt@21:1/5 to usenet@mikevanpelt.com on Mon Sep 2 22:38:25 2024
    In article <v9mipv$1a8tp$2@dont-email.me>,
    Mike Van Pelt <usenet@mikevanpelt.com> wrote:
    I've read "Bullard Reflects" in another anthology. I've long
    wanted to get a copy of the other Bullard stories, once I
    found that there were more, but not at $100.

    I'm definitely going to go get the ebook!

    So, got the ebook, and after the first story...

    Yeah, lots of fun. The technology is (to quote Montgomery
    Scott) quaint, but that's to be expected with stories of
    this vintage that try to be really nuts and bolts.

    I'm looking forward to the rest.

    --
    Mike Van Pelt | "I don't advise it unless you're nuts."
    mvp at calweb.com | -- Ray Wilkinson, after riding out Hurricane
    KE6BVH | Ike on Surfside Beach in Galveston

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  • From Mike Van Pelt@21:1/5 to usenet@mikevanpelt.com on Sun Sep 8 04:17:34 2024
    In article <vb5ep1$30qjf$4@dont-email.me>,
    Mike Van Pelt <usenet@mikevanpelt.com> wrote:
    I'm definitely going to go get the ebook!

    So, got the ebook, and after the first story...

    Yeah, lots of fun. The technology is (to quote Montgomery
    Scott) quaint, but that's to be expected with stories of
    this vintage that try to be really nuts and bolts.

    And ... loads of fun. Bullard does seem to have to spend as
    much energy fighting bureacratic stupidity on his side as he
    does the various enemies.
    --
    Mike Van Pelt | "I don't advise it unless you're nuts."
    mvp at calweb.com | -- Ray Wilkinson, after riding out Hurricane
    KE6BVH | Ike on Surfside Beach in Galveston

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