• Nebula Finalists 1999

    From James Nicoll@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 2 17:33:37 2024
    1999: The Mars Polar Lander more than succeeds at landing on Mars,
    Liberty Bell 7 is retrieved after a slight delay from the Atlantic,
    and across the world programmers work hard to prevent a calamity,
    efforts that will late prove politically inconvenient to acknowledge.

    Which 1999 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?

    Forever Peace by Joe Haldeman
    How Few Remain by Harry Turtledove
    Moonfall by Jack McDevitt
    The Death of the Necromancer by Martha Wells
    The Last Hawk by Catherine Asaro
    To Say Nothing of the Dog by Connie Willis

    All but the Asaro.


    Which 1999 Nebula Finalist Novellas Have You Read?

    Reading the Bones by Sheila Finch
    Aurora in Four Voices by Catherine Asaro
    Ecopoiesis by Geoffrey A. Landis
    Izzy and the Father of Terror by Eliot Fintushel
    Jumping Off the Planet by David Gerrold
    The Boss in the Wall by Avram Davidson and Grania Davis

    Only the Asaro and the Landis. Not a great year for me and short SFF.


    Which 1999 Nebula Finalist Novelettes Have You Read?

    Lost Girls by Jane Yolen
    Echea by Kristine Kathryn Rusch
    Lethe by Walter Jon Williams
    The Mercy Gate by Mark J. McGarry
    The Truest Chill by Gregory Feeley
    Time Gypsy by Ellen Klages

    Only the Williams and the Klages.


    Which 1999 Nebula Finalist Short Stories Have You Read?

    Thirteen Ways to Water by Bruce Holland Rogers
    Fortune and Misfortune by Lisa Goldstein
    Standing Room Only by Karen Joy Fowler
    Tall One by K. D. Wentworth
    When the Bow Breaks by Steven Brust
    Winter Fire by Geoffrey A. Landis

    None what so ever. 2000 is likely to be as bad, then Andrew Wheeler
    started force-feeding me fiction of all lengths.
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  • From Robert Woodward@21:1/5 to James Nicoll on Mon Sep 2 21:53:42 2024
    In article <vb4sth$koe$1@reader1.panix.com>,
    jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:

    1999: The Mars Polar Lander more than succeeds at landing on Mars,
    Liberty Bell 7 is retrieved after a slight delay from the Atlantic,
    and across the world programmers work hard to prevent a calamity,
    efforts that will late prove politically inconvenient to acknowledge.

    Which 1999 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?

    Forever Peace by Joe Haldeman
    How Few Remain by Harry Turtledove
    Moonfall by Jack McDevitt
    The Death of the Necromancer by Martha Wells
    The Last Hawk by Catherine Asaro
    To Say Nothing of the Dog by Connie Willis

    All but the Asaro.


    None


    Which 1999 Nebula Finalist Novellas Have You Read?

    Reading the Bones by Sheila Finch
    Aurora in Four Voices by Catherine Asaro
    Ecopoiesis by Geoffrey A. Landis
    Izzy and the Father of Terror by Eliot Fintushel
    Jumping Off the Planet by David Gerrold
    The Boss in the Wall by Avram Davidson and Grania Davis

    Only the Asaro and the Landis. Not a great year for me and short SFF.


    I think I have read the Asaro, the Landis, and Gerrold.


    Which 1999 Nebula Finalist Novelettes Have You Read?

    Lost Girls by Jane Yolen
    Echea by Kristine Kathryn Rusch
    Lethe by Walter Jon Williams
    The Mercy Gate by Mark J. McGarry
    The Truest Chill by Gregory Feeley
    Time Gypsy by Ellen Klages

    Only the Williams and the Klages.


    None


    Which 1999 Nebula Finalist Short Stories Have You Read?

    Thirteen Ways to Water by Bruce Holland Rogers
    Fortune and Misfortune by Lisa Goldstein
    Standing Room Only by Karen Joy Fowler
    Tall One by K. D. Wentworth
    When the Bow Breaks by Steven Brust
    Winter Fire by Geoffrey A. Landis

    None what so ever. 2000 is likely to be as bad, then Andrew Wheeler
    started force-feeding me fiction of all lengths.

    None for me as well. Since nobody was force-feeding me fiction of all
    lengths the last 25 years, I suspect that none will be a frequent reply
    from me for the next 25 installments.

    --
    "We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
    Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_. ‹-----------------------------------------------------
    Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com

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  • From Chris Buckley@21:1/5 to James Nicoll on Sat Sep 7 12:09:00 2024
    On 2024-09-02, James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
    1999: The Mars Polar Lander more than succeeds at landing on Mars,
    Liberty Bell 7 is retrieved after a slight delay from the Atlantic,
    and across the world programmers work hard to prevent a calamity,
    efforts that will late prove politically inconvenient to acknowledge.

    Which 1999 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?

    Forever Peace by Joe Haldeman
    How Few Remain by Harry Turtledove
    Moonfall by Jack McDevitt
    The Death of the Necromancer by Martha Wells
    The Last Hawk by Catherine Asaro
    To Say Nothing of the Dog by Connie Willis

    All but the Asaro.

    I missed the Turtledove (I don't regret that), and the McDevett
    (I do regret that). None of the others are Favorites.

    Asaro remains an enigma to me. She was a hard scientist (PhD in
    chemical physics from Harvard), nominated numerous times (9?) for
    Hugo and Nebula awards (won two Nebulas), president of the SFWA
    for two terms, has written about 40 novels, but she's remarkably unknown.
    I don't remember the last time she was discussed here (mentioned a couple
    of times but not discussed). Her works are generally on the lighter
    space opera side, but that's true of a lot of authors, especially now.

    Chris

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  • From Chris Buckley@21:1/5 to Tony Nance on Tue Sep 10 20:39:10 2024
    On 2024-09-09, Tony Nance <tnusenet17@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 9/7/24 8:09 AM, Chris Buckley wrote:
    On 2024-09-02, James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
    1999: The Mars Polar Lander more than succeeds at landing on Mars,
    Liberty Bell 7 is retrieved after a slight delay from the Atlantic,
    and across the world programmers work hard to prevent a calamity,
    efforts that will late prove politically inconvenient to acknowledge.

    Which 1999 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?

    Forever Peace by Joe Haldeman
    How Few Remain by Harry Turtledove
    Moonfall by Jack McDevitt
    The Death of the Necromancer by Martha Wells
    The Last Hawk by Catherine Asaro
    To Say Nothing of the Dog by Connie Willis

    All but the Asaro.

    I missed the Turtledove (I don't regret that), and the McDevett
    (I do regret that). None of the others are Favorites.

    Asaro remains an enigma to me. She was a hard scientist (PhD in
    chemical physics from Harvard), nominated numerous times (9?) for
    Hugo and Nebula awards (won two Nebulas), president of the SFWA
    for two terms, has written about 40 novels, but she's remarkably unknown.
    I don't remember the last time she was discussed here (mentioned a couple
    of times but not discussed). Her works are generally on the lighter
    space opera side, but that's true of a lot of authors, especially now.


    Huh - now that you mention it, I don't think I've read anything by
    Asaro. What would you recommend?

    If you read Asaro, you pretty much have to read her Skolian Empire
    series; it comprises over half of her writing and all of her Hugo/Nebula nominations come from it. It's a big, sprawling saga that I've read less
    than half of, so I'm not the best recommender.

    I read Asaro's first dozen or so novels as they came out, enjoying
    them all as light reading (well, one romantasy non-Skolian novel
    I remember not appreciating as much). But the problem for me was that
    her universe sprawled: pairs of novels might be going on at the same
    time almost completely unconnected for now, and the novels were not
    totally chronological. Since I was light reading once a year as they
    came out, I couldn't keep track of all the empire and personal
    relationships (heavy on romance) well enough without re-reading.
    Ordinary series I'm perfectly fine re-reading the previous novel when
    a new one comes but this sprawls so much I was having to re-read all
    the novels since I didn't know what it covered! I decided to wait (in
    2004) until she finished it, but I don't believe that has happened
    yet.

    To get a good taste of her writing, I would recommend reading
    4 out of her first 6 novels in publication order:
    1 Primary Inversion - her first novel, unsurprisingly weaker but has been
    rewritten (I haven't read the rewritten version)
    3 The Last Hawk - nominee Nebula award (this thread)
    4 The Radiant Seas
    6 The Quantum Rose - Winner Nebula award

    (Novel 2: Wikipedia tells me is the chronological end of the Saga.
    Novel 5: takes place at the same time as Novel 6 but was published a
    few months earlier, with 6 being the stronger novel.)

    All that being said, it may be hard to read them; not all are in print.
    I see _The Radiant Seas_ is only available used (or as Audiobook).

    Chris

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  • From Joy Beeson@21:1/5 to Chris Buckley on Tue Sep 24 11:59:05 2024
    On 7 Sep 2024 12:09:00 GMT, Chris Buckley <alan@sabir.com> wrote:

    Asaro remains an enigma to me. She was a hard scientist (PhD in
    chemical physics from Harvard), nominated numerous times (9?) for
    Hugo and Nebula awards (won two Nebulas), president of the SFWA
    for two terms, has written about 40 novels, but she's remarkably unknown.
    I don't remember the last time she was discussed here (mentioned a couple
    of times but not discussed). Her works are generally on the lighter
    space opera side, but that's true of a lot of authors, especially now.


    Asaro's SF scratches my fantasy itch much better than her fantasy
    does.

    Her "shape magic" struck me, at first, as trying really, really hard.
    I became adjusted to it because of my interest in the characters, but
    don't seek out new stories as I do with the Major Bhahjan series.

    But I'd *really* like to see Bhaajan solve a problem with consequences
    that are confined to a single planet. Saving the entire universe gets
    a little old.

    And I think that the Majdas should give her an assignment that keeps
    her out of fights long enough to heal up from the previous story.


    --
    Joy Beeson
    joy beeson at centurylink dot net
    http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/

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