• Re: record 19 people in space right now

    From Ted Nolan @21:1/5 to lynnmcguire5@gmail.com on Fri Sep 13 20:42:41 2024
    In article <vc2601$115s1$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    From one of my buddies:

    “If I'm counting correctly, there are a record 19 people in space right >now. There is the normal 7 person ISS crew, the two astronauts that
    flew to ISS on the Boeing Starliner test flight, the three who just
    arrived on ISS via the Russian Soyuz for a standard crew rotation, the
    four commercial astronauts on the Polaris Dawn Dragon mission, and the
    three crew on the Chinese space station. That's 7 + 2 + 3 + 4 +3 = 19.”

    Amazing. Maybe we will hit 100 in the next ten years.


    That we know of!
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    columbiaclosings.com
    What's not in Columbia anymore..

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  • From Ted Nolan @21:1/5 to petertrei@gmail.com on Sat Sep 14 03:33:04 2024
    In article <vc2msh$1425l$2@dont-email.me>,
    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 9/13/2024 4:42 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <vc2601$115s1$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    From one of my buddies:

    “If I'm counting correctly, there are a record 19 people in space right >>> now. There is the normal 7 person ISS crew, the two astronauts that
    flew to ISS on the Boeing Starliner test flight, the three who just
    arrived on ISS via the Russian Soyuz for a standard crew rotation, the
    four commercial astronauts on the Polaris Dawn Dragon mission, and the
    three crew on the Chinese space station. That's 7 + 2 + 3 + 4 +3 = 19.” >>>
    Amazing. Maybe we will hit 100 in the next ten years.


    That we know of!

    Here's a thought experiment. Would it be possible to launch a manned
    rocket into orbit secretly?

    I don't think it could be done without Russia and the US noticing,
    due to their missile tracking radars.

    The actual launch might be hidden, by launching from a ship in the
    empty part of the South Pacific, but once in orbit it would be
    picked up. Rocket launches are visible literally hundreds of miles
    away at night, maybe less so in the day. Clouds would help.

    Perhaps if it wasn't launched to orbit, but directly to planetary
    space?

    pt

    Are you counting alien abductees, crusaders & Roman Legionaires?
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    columbiaclosings.com
    What's not in Columbia anymore..

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 13 21:22:12 2024
    On 9/13/24 20:33, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <vc2msh$1425l$2@dont-email.me>,
    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 9/13/2024 4:42 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <vc2601$115s1$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    From one of my buddies:

    “If I'm counting correctly, there are a record 19 people in space right >>>> now. There is the normal 7 person ISS crew, the two astronauts that
    flew to ISS on the Boeing Starliner test flight, the three who just
    arrived on ISS via the Russian Soyuz for a standard crew rotation, the >>>> four commercial astronauts on the Polaris Dawn Dragon mission, and the >>>> three crew on the Chinese space station. That's 7 + 2 + 3 + 4 +3 = 19.” >>>>
    Amazing. Maybe we will hit 100 in the next ten years.


    That we know of!

    Here's a thought experiment. Would it be possible to launch a manned
    rocket into orbit secretly?

    I don't think it could be done without Russia and the US noticing,
    due to their missile tracking radars.

    The actual launch might be hidden, by launching from a ship in the
    empty part of the South Pacific, but once in orbit it would be
    picked up. Rocket launches are visible literally hundreds of miles
    away at night, maybe less so in the day. Clouds would help.

    Perhaps if it wasn't launched to orbit, but directly to planetary
    space?

    pt

    Are you counting alien abductees, crusaders & Roman Legionaires?

    Don't forget the CroMagnons taken by aliens to learn about
    the potenial of the new species. The abducted Atlanteans as well,
    rescued as the volcano they built on exploded.

    As for a launch into interplanetary space so far we are showing np
    sign of such marveleous progress. Rich amateurs have been sitting
    in the Van Allen Belt which is a bad place to stick around. So
    they are up about 800 miles which is much futher out than ISS.

    Van Allen Belt are extensive but consist most of energised
    electrons so rather easy to insulate against but maybe a ship
    or real Space Station as visualized back in the 1950s, a slender
    donut shaper rotating to stimulate Gravity might also
    want to generate its own magnetic fields to shunt these
    radiations aside. Such protective fields could be generated
    through by electricity generated by mirror focused sunlight
    as is done in the California desert.

    bliss

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to petertrei@gmail.com on Sat Sep 14 10:56:26 2024
    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
    Here's a thought experiment. Would it be possible to launch a manned
    rocket into orbit secretly?

    I don't think it could be done without Russia and the US noticing,
    due to their missile tracking radars.

    You announce it as a satellite launch. You give NORAD the wrong set
    of Keplerians and then after launch when they notice it is in a
    different orbit, you tell them it went wrong.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to Scott Dorsey on Sat Sep 14 09:05:56 2024
    On 14 Sep 2024 10:56:26 -0000, kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
    Here's a thought experiment. Would it be possible to launch a manned
    rocket into orbit secretly?

    I don't think it could be done without Russia and the US noticing,
    due to their missile tracking radars.

    You announce it as a satellite launch. You give NORAD the wrong set
    of Keplerians and then after launch when they notice it is in a
    different orbit, you tell them it went wrong.

    Should work fine ... till one of them calls home to his Mom to
    complain about the food.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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