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  • Re: Last Dangerous Visions has dropped.

    From James Nicoll@21:1/5 to petertrei@gmail.com on Thu Oct 3 00:27:16 2024
    In article <vdknl8$3eass$1@dont-email.me>,
    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
    Published yesterday. I've downloaded it to my Kindle (now there's a
    line that would have been thoroughly SF when the first anthology
    was published), but have not read it yet.

    James, will you be reviewing this?

    If someone pays me to, and only after I tackle the first two.

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  • From Titus G@21:1/5 to Cryptoengineer on Thu Oct 3 16:20:11 2024
    On 3/10/24 13:14, Cryptoengineer wrote:
    Published yesterday. I've downloaded it to my Kindle (now there's a
    line that would have been thoroughly SF when the first anthology
    was published), but have not read it yet.

    James, will you be reviewing this?

    pt

    I will scream whilst I still have a mouth, (tick tock tick tock), that
    as the stories have not been previously published, then the older ones
    are likely to have been not judged worthy.

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  • From Ted Nolan @21:1/5 to noone@nowhere.com on Thu Oct 3 04:26:45 2024
    In article <vdl2hb$3j3vr$2@dont-email.me>, Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> wrote: >On 3/10/24 13:14, Cryptoengineer wrote:
    Published yesterday. I've downloaded it to my Kindle (now there's a
    line that would have been thoroughly SF when the first anthology
    was published), but have not read it yet.

    James, will you be reviewing this?

    pt

    I will scream whilst I still have a mouth, (tick tock tick tock), that
    as the stories have not been previously published, then the older ones
    are likely to have been not judged worthy.

    Interesting. Here is the toc from ISFDB:

    ==
    The Last Dangerous Visions -- interior artwork by Tim Kirk
    xi -- A Brief Introduction to The Last Dangerous Visions - essay
    by J. Michael Straczynski
    1 -- Ellison Exegesis - essay by J. Michael Straczynski
    59 -- Assignment No. 1 - short story by Stephen Robinett
    71 -- Hunger - short story by Max Brooks
    83 -- Intermezzo 1: Broken, Beautiful Body on Beach - short story
    by D. M. Rowles
    87 -- None So Deaf - short story by Richard E. Peck
    95 -- Introduction to Ed Bryant's "War Stories" - essay by Harlan Ellison
    99 -- War Stories - novelette by Edward Bryant
    127 -- Intermezzo 2: Bedtime Story - short story by D. M. Rowles
    129 -- The Great Forest Lawn Clearance Sale--Hurry, Last Days! - short story
    by Stephen Dedman
    143 -- Intermezzo 3: Even Beyond Olympus - short story by D. M. Rowles
    145 -- After Taste - novelette by Cecil Castellucci
    171 -- Leveled Best - short story by Steve Herbst
    177 -- The Time of the Skin - short story by A. E. van Vogt
    197 -- Rundown - short story by John Morressy
    203 -- Intermezzo 4: Elemental - short story by D. M. Rowles
    205 -- The Weight of a Feather (The Weight of a Heart) - novelette
    by Cory Doctorow
    237 -- The Malibu Fault - short story by Jonathan Fast
    245 -- The Size of the Problem - short story by Howard Fast
    251 -- Intermezzo 5: First Contact - short story by D. M. Rowles
    253 -- A Night at the Opera - short story by Robert Wissner
    263 -- Goodbye - short story by Steven Utley
    271 -- Primordial Follies - short story by Robert Sheckley
    285 -- Men in White - short story by David Brin
    287 -- Intermezzo 6: Continuity - short story by D. M. Rowles
    289 -- The Final Pogrom - novelette by Dan Simmons
    315 -- Intermezzo 7: The Space Behind the Obvious - short story by D. M. Rowles 317 -- Falling from Grace - short story by Ward Moore
    333 -- First Sight - short story by Adrian Tchaikovsky
    351 -- Intermezzo 8: Proof - short story by D. M. Rowles
    355 -- Binary System - short story by Kayo Hartenbaum
    369 -- Dark Threshold - short story by P. C. Hodgell
    377 -- The Danann Children Laugh - short story by Mildred Downey Broxon
    395 -- Judas Iscariot Didn't Kill Himself: A Story in Fragments - short story
    by Daniel Abraham and Ty Franck [as by James S. A. Corey]
    415 -- Afterword: Tetelestai! Compiling The Last Dangerous Visions - essay
    by J. Michael Straczynski
    ==

    I wouldn't mind reading the van Vogt.
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    What's not in Columbia anymore..

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  • From Don@21:1/5 to Cryptoengineer on Thu Oct 10 03:59:38 2024
    Cryptoengineer wrote:
    Published yesterday. I've downloaded it to my Kindle (now there's a
    line that would have been thoroughly SF when the first anthology
    was published), but have not read it yet.

    James, will you be reviewing this?

    ... One can see there's nothing dangerous to the establishment
    at all about Last Dangerous Visions. It's much like seeing
    a Rage Against The Machine tour sponsored by Capital One. ...

    ... A real successor, Forbidden Thoughts, came out in 2017
    featuring authors one might consider dangerous to mainstream
    publications Milo Yiannopoulos, Nick Cole, Larry Correia,
    Vox Day, and more. If Straczynski had truly wanted to follow
    Harlan Ellison's rebellious legacy, he would have included
    at least one writer of dissenting opinion. But in 2024, no
    real dangerous visions are allowed in publishing. It seems
    1984 has become reality. ....

    <https://fandompulse.substack.com/p/j-michael-stracyznski-turns-harlan>

    Danke,

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    tells tall tales.. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.' Make 1984 fiction again.

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to Don on Thu Oct 10 08:41:15 2024
    On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 03:59:38 -0000 (UTC), Don <g@crcomp.net> wrote:

    Cryptoengineer wrote:
    Published yesterday. I've downloaded it to my Kindle (now there's a
    line that would have been thoroughly SF when the first anthology
    was published), but have not read it yet.

    James, will you be reviewing this?

    ... One can see there's nothing dangerous to the establishment
    at all about Last Dangerous Visions. It's much like seeing
    a Rage Against The Machine tour sponsored by Capital One. ...

    ... A real successor, Forbidden Thoughts, came out in 2017
    featuring authors one might consider dangerous to mainstream
    publications Milo Yiannopoulos, Nick Cole, Larry Correia,
    Vox Day, and more. If Straczynski had truly wanted to follow
    Harlan Ellison's rebellious legacy, he would have included
    at least one writer of dissenting opinion. But in 2024, no
    real dangerous visions are allowed in publishing. It seems
    1984 has become reality. ....

    <https://fandompulse.substack.com/p/j-michael-stracyznski-turns-harlan>

    I found the original to be ... what a sane person would expect:
    nothing really daring, just people who thought they were.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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  • From James Nicoll@21:1/5 to psperson@old.netcom.invalid on Thu Oct 10 15:56:06 2024
    In article <abtfgj1b3d6tv2snov9qifk79clm2mt575@4ax.com>,
    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

    Cryptoengineer wrote:
    Published yesterday. I've downloaded it to my Kindle (now there's a
    line that would have been thoroughly SF when the first anthology
    was published), but have not read it yet.

    James, will you be reviewing this?

    snip

    I found the original to be ... what a sane person would expect:
    nothing really daring, just people who thought they were.

    DV is up for review by the end of November. Don't think I've read it
    since Joe Clark was PM. Pretty sure my memories of DV are mixed up
    with A,DV.


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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to Nicoll on Fri Oct 11 08:23:41 2024
    On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 15:56:06 -0000 (UTC), jdnicoll@panix.com (James
    Nicoll) wrote:

    In article <abtfgj1b3d6tv2snov9qifk79clm2mt575@4ax.com>,
    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

    Cryptoengineer wrote:
    Published yesterday. I've downloaded it to my Kindle (now there's a
    line that would have been thoroughly SF when the first anthology
    was published), but have not read it yet.

    James, will you be reviewing this?

    snip

    I found the original to be ... what a sane person would expect:
    nothing really daring, just people who thought they were.

    DV is up for review by the end of November. Don't think I've read it
    since Joe Clark was PM. Pretty sure my memories of DV are mixed up
    with A,DV.

    Don't forget to notice the obligatory anti-religion story.

    Which, since it was expected, and quite ordinary, cannot have been
    daring.

    The same could be said of the obligatory stories with sex in them.
    What can one say to such things, except "Ah, Salieri!" while yawning.

    This could simply be a matter of timing: that is, at least some of the
    stories could have been daring but, by the time it was published, had
    become, if not common, at least not rare.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 9 09:52:21 2025
    On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 16:51:34 -0400, Tony Nance <tnusenet17@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    There's a very interesting summary here of stories that
    could/would/should have been, as well as what is actually in:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Dangerous_Visions

    I'm sorry to see that series ended since previous editions introduced
    me to quite a few writers I wouldn't have otherwise encountered. And
    no question some of the stories were disturbing like "In the Barn"
    which introduced me to Piers Anthony - I will never forget what did
    happen in the barn and anybody who has read the story knows that part
    wasn't PG.

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