• (ReacTor) Complete Planetary Destruction Is Not as Easy as It Seems

    From James Nicoll@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 10 16:14:15 2024
    Complete Planetary Destruction Is Not as Easy as It Seems

    More boundless optimism: humans might constitute an existential
    threat to many species on Earth (including humans themselves) but
    life as a whole has and will survive worse.

    https://reactormag.com/complete-planetary-destruction-is-not-as-easy-as-it-seems/
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  • From Garrett Wollman@21:1/5 to James Nicoll on Thu Oct 10 19:56:54 2024
    In article <ve8ugn$s1l$2@reader1.panix.com>,
    James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
    Complete Planetary Destruction Is Not as Easy as It Seems

    Some, ummm, typesetting howlers there...

    -GAWollman

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    Garrett A. Wollman | "Act to avoid constraining the future; if you can, wollman@bimajority.org| act to remove constraint from the future. This is Opinions not shared by| a thing you can do, are able to do, to do together."
    my employers. | - Graydon Saunders, _A Succession of Bad Days_ (2015)

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to James Nicoll on Thu Oct 10 15:04:30 2024
    On 10/10/24 09:14, James Nicoll wrote:
    Complete Planetary Destruction Is Not as Easy as It Seems

    More boundless optimism: humans might constitute an existential
    threat to many species on Earth (including humans themselves) but
    life as a whole has and will survive worse.

    https://reactormag.com/complete-planetary-destruction-is-not-as-easy-as-it-seems/

    No killing off all life on earth is very hard since it started in conditions that would not a allow complex life to survive. It might
    take some time to re-emerge from the seas again and perhaps no other intelligent species will show up in the course of future evolution.

    So that is not the problem but the problems that we face as humans will likely increase and become evident in the next 100 years.
    Can we do anything about it. Only if we can find the
    will. If we don't do anything now the problems will be worse
    that the people alive then will face.

    As for me I am 87 YOA and I doubt I will last until
    the collapse of our present society. I hope not since I am
    no more or less dependent on present circumstances than
    anyone else.

    bliss

    --
    b l i s s - S F 4 e v e r at D S L E x t r e m e dot com

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Lynn McGuire on Fri Oct 11 18:19:07 2024
    On 10/11/2024 12:10 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 10/11/2024 10:32 AM, William Hyde wrote:
    Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 10/10/2024 11:14 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
    Complete Planetary Destruction Is Not as Easy as It Seems

    More boundless optimism: humans might constitute an existential
    threat to many species on Earth (including humans themselves) but
    life as a whole has and will survive worse.

    https://reactormag.com/complete-planetary-destruction-is-not-as-
    easy- as-it-seems/

    Nanobot Gobblers will take care of the Earth just fine by turning the
    entire planet into a grey goo.  There is a book by Sean Williams ???
    and Shane Dix ??? about this.

    And if somebody poisons Sol turning it into a red dwarf early then
    the Earth will be gobbled by Sol.  "Last Day on Mars (Chronicle of
    the Dark Star, 1)" by Kevin Emerson
        https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0062306723

    "It is Earth year 2213—but, of course, there is no Earth anymore. Not
    since it was burned to a cinder by the sun, which has mysteriously
    begun the process of going supernova. The human race has fled to
    Mars, but this was only a temporary solution while we have prepared
    for a second trip: a one-hundred-fifty-year journey to a distant
    star, our best guess at where we might find a new home."

    You couldn't pay me to read dreck like that.

    And this time I mean it.

    Elon Musk would like a word with you... :)

    Not dreck, that is old school Pulp.

    Tomato, tomatoh.

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to lynnmcguire5@gmail.com on Sun Oct 13 13:29:45 2024
    On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 17:54:19 -0500, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    "It is Earth year 2213—but, of course, there is no Earth anymore. Not
    since it was burned to a cinder by the sun, which has mysteriously begun
    the process of going supernova. The human race has fled to Mars, but
    this was only a temporary solution while we have prepared for a second
    trip: a one-hundred-fifty-year journey to a distant star, our best guess
    at where we might find a new home."

    There's a massive difference in mass between the size of a future nova
    and a future supernova - and our Sun is barely big enough for a nova
    future and far below that of a supernova so I tend to look askance at
    any author who describes the future Sun in that way.

    In any case short of Lex Luthor or similar villain creating a devise
    to detonate the sun, that particular probably is 4-5 billion years out
    which is rather longer than I expect to be here to have that problem
    to face.

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  • From Robert Woodward@21:1/5 to The Horny Goat on Sun Oct 13 21:45:01 2024
    In article <18bogjpjm9537c1kgdlq81earobgu1qcmf@4ax.com>,
    The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:

    On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 17:54:19 -0500, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    "It is Earth year 2213—but, of course, there is no Earth anymore. Not >since it was burned to a cinder by the sun, which has mysteriously begun >the process of going supernova. The human race has fled to Mars, but
    this was only a temporary solution while we have prepared for a second >trip: a one-hundred-fifty-year journey to a distant star, our best guess
    at where we might find a new home."

    There's a massive difference in mass between the size of a future nova
    and a future supernova - and our Sun is barely big enough for a nova
    future and far below that of a supernova so I tend to look askance at
    any author who describes the future Sun in that way.

    It can't be a nova; only close binary star systems can produce novas.

    --
    "We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
    Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_. -----------------------------------------------------
    Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com

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  • From Ted Nolan @21:1/5 to robertaw@drizzle.com on Mon Oct 14 06:45:26 2024
    In article <robertaw-C761A6.21450013102024@news.individual.net>,
    Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:
    In article <18bogjpjm9537c1kgdlq81earobgu1qcmf@4ax.com>,
    The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:

    On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 17:54:19 -0500, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    "It is Earth year 2213—but, of course, there is no Earth anymore. Not
    since it was burned to a cinder by the sun, which has mysteriously begun
    the process of going supernova. The human race has fled to Mars, but
    this was only a temporary solution while we have prepared for a second
    trip: a one-hundred-fifty-year journey to a distant star, our best guess
    at where we might find a new home."

    There's a massive difference in mass between the size of a future nova
    and a future supernova - and our Sun is barely big enough for a nova
    future and far below that of a supernova so I tend to look askance at
    any author who describes the future Sun in that way.

    It can't be a nova; only close binary star systems can produce novas.


    Or Chevrolet.
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    columbiaclosings.com
    What's not in Columbia anymore..

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  • From Don_from_AZ@21:1/5 to ted@loft.tnolan.com on Mon Oct 14 08:49:51 2024
    ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) writes:

    In article <robertaw-C761A6.21450013102024@news.individual.net>,
    Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:
    In article <18bogjpjm9537c1kgdlq81earobgu1qcmf@4ax.com>,
    The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:

    On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 17:54:19 -0500, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    "It is Earth year 2213—but, of course, there is no Earth anymore. Not
    since it was burned to a cinder by the sun, which has mysteriously begun >>> >the process of going supernova. The human race has fled to Mars, but
    this was only a temporary solution while we have prepared for a second
    trip: a one-hundred-fifty-year journey to a distant star, our best guess >>> >at where we might find a new home."

    There's a massive difference in mass between the size of a future nova
    and a future supernova - and our Sun is barely big enough for a nova
    future and far below that of a supernova so I tend to look askance at
    any author who describes the future Sun in that way.

    It can't be a nova; only close binary star systems can produce novas.


    Or Chevrolet.

    I read somewhere a (possibly apocryphal) story that the Chevy "Nova" was unpopular in Mexico because "no va" means "it won't go" in Spanish.
    -Don-

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid on Mon Oct 14 19:35:32 2024
    Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> wrote:
    ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) writes:


    Or Chevrolet.

    I read somewhere a (possibly apocryphal) story that the Chevy "Nova" was >unpopular in Mexico because "no va" means "it won't go" in Spanish.

    You would think it would, but it actually sold in spite of the name. On
    the other hand, the Yugo failed to sell in the US because it frequently
    did not actually go.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From Christian Weisgerber@21:1/5 to djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid on Tue Oct 15 14:36:09 2024
    On 2024-10-14, Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> wrote:

    I read somewhere a (possibly apocryphal) story that the Chevy "Nova" was unpopular in Mexico because "no va" means "it won't go" in Spanish.

    I don't doubt that somebody sniggered over it. I'll point out,
    though, that the Spanish word for "nova", is, well, "nova".

    And I see there's a note about this in the expected place: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Chevy_II_/_Nova#Urban_legend

    --
    Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de

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  • From Ted Nolan @21:1/5 to rja.carnegie@gmail.com on Fri Oct 18 19:15:17 2024
    In article <veuan4$3e3hr$1@dont-email.me>,
    Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 13/10/2024 21:29, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 17:54:19 -0500, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    "It is Earth year 2213—but, of course, there is no Earth anymore. Not
    since it was burned to a cinder by the sun, which has mysteriously begun >>> the process of going supernova. The human race has fled to Mars, but
    this was only a temporary solution while we have prepared for a second
    trip: a one-hundred-fifty-year journey to a distant star, our best guess >>> at where we might find a new home."

    There's a massive difference in mass between the size of a future nova
    and a future supernova - and our Sun is barely big enough for a nova
    future and far below that of a supernova so I tend to look askance at
    any author who describes the future Sun in that way.

    In any case short of Lex Luthor or similar villain creating a devise
    to detonate the sun, that particular probably is 4-5 billion years out
    which is rather longer than I expect to be here to have that problem
    to face.

    As I said on the page, I think I heard that
    in about one billion years, the Sun will be
    slightly hotter, and Earth's water will all
    be evaporated in the atmosphere.

    The water that we're made of.

    I'm moving: 500,000 years here tops.
    --
    columbiaclosings.com
    What's not in Columbia anymore..

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to tednolan on Sat Oct 19 17:34:46 2024
    On 14 Oct 2024 06:45:26 GMT, ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
    <tednolan>) wrote:

    It can't be a nova; only close binary star systems can produce novas.


    Or Chevrolet.

    Groan - when I was about 10-12 my parents had a Chevy Nova - it wasn't
    nearly as bad a car as its reputation.

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  • From Ted Nolan @21:1/5 to lcraver@home.ca on Sun Oct 20 02:29:48 2024
    In article <tvj8hjpljv4us6m8p1bdp7g9g7rmu161gb@4ax.com>,
    The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
    On 14 Oct 2024 06:45:26 GMT, ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
    <tednolan>) wrote:

    It can't be a nova; only close binary star systems can produce novas.


    Or Chevrolet.

    Groan - when I was about 10-12 my parents had a Chevy Nova - it wasn't
    nearly as bad a car as its reputation.

    Well, it hardly could be could it?

    We also had a (doubly) astrally themed car: A Mercury Comet.
    --
    columbiaclosings.com
    What's not in Columbia anymore..

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