• Hamas starves the Gazans

    From NefeshBarYochai@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 15 06:21:26 2024
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    It's all out there! Just Google it.

    How Much Humanitarian Aid Is Hamas Stealing? Americans Paying For It Deserve To Know
    https://www.realclearworld.com/articles/2024/10/08/how_much_humanitarian_aid_is_hamas_stealing_americans_paying_for_it_deserve_to_know_1063704.html

    "Arab, Western officials agree Hamas is keeping Gaza food, fuel for itself - NY Times"

    "Hamas Terrorists Steal Humanitarian Aid, Beat Civilians"

    "Gazans to IDF: Hamas steals UNRWA food, kills civilians who ask for aid"

    "As Gazans Scrounge for Food and Water, Hamas Sits on a Rich Trove of Supplies"

    etc. etc. etc.

    Nothing new here, of course.

    Hamas robbing Gaza aid, food -- already in 2009

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7875171.stm
    The UN aid agency in Gaza says it has suspended all aid shipments, accusing
    the Hamas government of seizing hundreds of tonnes of food supplies.

    It was the second incident in three days. On Tuesday, 3,500 blankets and more than 400 food parcels were seized at gunpoint from a distribution centre in Gaza, the UN said.

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  • From Michael Ejercito@21:1/5 to NefeshBarYochai on Tue Oct 15 04:01:33 2024
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    NefeshBarYochai wrote:
    It's all out there! Just Google it.

    How Much Humanitarian Aid Is Hamas Stealing? Americans Paying For It Deserve To Know
    https://www.realclearworld.com/articles/2024/10/08/how_much_humanitarian_aid_is_hamas_stealing_americans_paying_for_it_deserve_to_know_1063704.html

    "Arab, Western officials agree Hamas is keeping Gaza food, fuel for itself - NY Times"

    "Hamas Terrorists Steal Humanitarian Aid, Beat Civilians"

    "Gazans to IDF: Hamas steals UNRWA food, kills civilians who ask for aid"

    "As Gazans Scrounge for Food and Water, Hamas Sits on a Rich Trove of Supplies"

    etc. etc. etc.

    Nothing new here, of course.

    Hamas robbing Gaza aid, food -- already in 2009

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7875171.stm
    The UN aid agency in Gaza says it has suspended all aid shipments, accusing the Hamas government of seizing hundreds of tonnes of food supplies.

    It was the second incident in three days. On Tuesday, 3,500 blankets and more than 400 food parcels were seized at gunpoint from a distribution centre in Gaza, the UN said.

    Like Germany and Japan in the first half of the 1940's, Gaza is run
    by a fanatical death cult.

    Hamas is what you get if people like Elliot Rodger and Dylann Roof
    have their own political party.


    Michael

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to void@invalid.noy on Tue Oct 15 15:34:16 2024
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    In article <vel1l6$igi$1@pcls7.std.com>,
    NefeshBarYochai <void@invalid.noy> wrote:

    It's all out there! Just Google it.

    How Much Humanitarian Aid Is Hamas Stealing? Americans Paying For It
    Deserve To Know >https://www.realclearworld.com/articles/2024/10/08/how_much_humanitarian_aid_is_hamas_stealing_americans_paying_for_it_deserve_to_know_1063704.html

    "Arab, Western officials agree Hamas is keeping Gaza food, fuel for
    itself - NY Times"

    "Hamas Terrorists Steal Humanitarian Aid, Beat Civilians"

    "Gazans to IDF: Hamas steals UNRWA food, kills civilians who ask for aid"

    "As Gazans Scrounge for Food and Water, Hamas Sits on a Rich Trove of Supplies"

    etc. etc. etc.

    Nothing new here, of course.

    Hamas robbing Gaza aid, food -- already in 2009

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7875171.stm
    The UN aid agency in Gaza says it has suspended all aid shipments, accusing >the Hamas government of seizing hundreds of tonnes of food supplies.

    It was the second incident in three days. On Tuesday, 3,500 blankets and more >than 400 food parcels were seized at gunpoint from a distribution centre in >Gaza, the UN said.


    You are welcome here just as you are in edm.general .
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to MEjercit@HotMail.com on Tue Oct 15 15:33:49 2024
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    In article <veli2d$1m9n1$1@dont-email.me>,
    Michael Ejercito <MEjercit@HotMail.com> wrote:
    NefeshBarYochai wrote:
    It's all out there! Just Google it.

    How Much Humanitarian Aid Is Hamas Stealing? Americans Paying For It >Deserve To Know
    https://www.realclearworld.com/articles/2024/10/08/how_much_humanitarian_aid_is_hamas_stealing_americans_paying_for_it_deserve_to_know_1063704.html

    "Arab, Western officials agree Hamas is keeping Gaza food, fuel for
    itself - NY Times"

    "Hamas Terrorists Steal Humanitarian Aid, Beat Civilians"

    "Gazans to IDF: Hamas steals UNRWA food, kills civilians who ask for aid"

    "As Gazans Scrounge for Food and Water, Hamas Sits on a Rich Trove of >Supplies"

    etc. etc. etc.

    Nothing new here, of course.

    Hamas robbing Gaza aid, food -- already in 2009

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7875171.stm
    The UN aid agency in Gaza says it has suspended all aid shipments, accusing >> the Hamas government of seizing hundreds of tonnes of food supplies.

    It was the second incident in three days. On Tuesday, 3,500 blankets and more
    than 400 food parcels were seized at gunpoint from a distribution centre in >> Gaza, the UN said.

    Like Germany and Japan in the first half of the 1940's, Gaza is run
    by a fanatical death cult.

    Hamas is what you get if people like Elliot Rodger and Dylann Roof
    have their own political party.


    Thank you for the facts!


    Michael


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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to MEjercit@HotMail.com on Tue Oct 15 09:02:23 2024
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    XPost: alt.politics.elections

    On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 04:01:33 -0700, Michael Ejercito
    <MEjercit@HotMail.com> wrote:

    NefeshBarYochai wrote:
    It's all out there! Just Google it.

    How Much Humanitarian Aid Is Hamas Stealing? Americans Paying For It Deserve To Know
    https://www.realclearworld.com/articles/2024/10/08/how_much_humanitarian_aid_is_hamas_stealing_americans_paying_for_it_deserve_to_know_1063704.html

    "Arab, Western officials agree Hamas is keeping Gaza food, fuel for itself - NY Times"

    "Hamas Terrorists Steal Humanitarian Aid, Beat Civilians"

    "Gazans to IDF: Hamas steals UNRWA food, kills civilians who ask for aid"

    "As Gazans Scrounge for Food and Water, Hamas Sits on a Rich Trove of Supplies"

    etc. etc. etc.

    Nothing new here, of course.

    Hamas robbing Gaza aid, food -- already in 2009

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7875171.stm
    The UN aid agency in Gaza says it has suspended all aid shipments, accusing >> the Hamas government of seizing hundreds of tonnes of food supplies.

    It was the second incident in three days. On Tuesday, 3,500 blankets and more
    than 400 food parcels were seized at gunpoint from a distribution centre in >> Gaza, the UN said.

    Like Germany and Japan in the first half of the 1940's, Gaza is run
    by a fanatical death cult.

    Hamas is what you get if people like Elliot Rodger and Dylann Roof
    have their own political party.

    Maybe they do.

    The Voter's Pamphlet, in addtion to four Initiatives designed to
    relief those poor 1%-ers of having to actually pay taxes under various
    guises, included no less than /ten/ President/VP pairs. Three of them
    from different Socialist parties.

    The funniest were a pair of academics, one clearly identified as
    involved in the theories used to justify Hamas, loudly proclaiming
    Israel's right to exist.

    The wierdest were a pair who have apparently developed their own
    reality (in which everyone opposed is a member of "The Swarm",
    whatever /that/ is), and acted as if this was somehow something
    ordinary people could understand.

    Well, at least they had /some/ idea of what the President might have
    to deal with.

    Oh, and the Republican running for the Senate is an orthopedist. He
    sounds strangely unaware of Trump or Trump's attitudes.

    Then again, he only "prefers" the Republican Party. The Party of Trump
    may not "prefer" or even like him.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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  • From Lil dwarf Rudey@21:1/5 to Paul S Person on Tue Oct 15 10:20:10 2024
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    Paul S Person wrote:
    Maybe they do.


    Read it again, scumbag little man Jonathan D Ball...you are no more than
    a failed solar city installer and Suckramento bungalow trash pretending
    to be Phil Hendrie, but giving blow jobs at the TA glory Hole and
    ducking fights at the Jolly Kone like you always do...

    Explain why are you death threat prosecution exempt by the Feds so far?

    And after _so many_ public death threats you issued on Trump and Vance...

    Let's do our best to change that, shall we:


    Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
    Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party/Alan Bond/Henry Bodkin/Malte
    Runz/Paul S Perso and a few dozen or even more other socks wrote:

    Multiple death threats against Trump: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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    Oh poor me I got shot at ...

    Swill ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


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    Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

    Swill

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    From: J Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com>
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    No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
    thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
    is an important step to getting there.

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    That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
    18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the Presidency
    U.S. Code
    Notes
    prev | next
    (a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
    or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
    letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
    threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
    the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
    President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
    of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
    knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
    President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
    order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
    shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
    or both.
    (b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
    candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
    respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
    held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
    accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
    phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
    order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
    United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
    (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
    Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L. 97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

    9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
    Service Protectees
    The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
    supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
    caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
    the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
    U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
    United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
    involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
    settlement involving a § 871 charge.


    https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

    PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
    for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
    Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
    counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
    and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

    The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
    living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
    to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
    November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
    statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
    U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
    crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
    series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

    Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
    up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
    of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
    five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release.

    A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
    criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
    presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
    guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

    The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
    case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
    handling the prosecution.


    Those can be reported here:

    https://tips.fbi.gov/home

    https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

    https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

    https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


    Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's usenet terrorism here?

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  • From Lil dwarf Rudey@21:1/5 to Paul S Person on Tue Oct 15 18:02:45 2024
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    Paul S Person wrote:
    Maybe they do.
    FOAD

    Read it again, scumbag little man Jonathan D Ball...you are no more than
    a failed solar city installer and Suckramento bungalow trash pretending
    to be Phil Hendrie, but giving blow jobs at the TA glory Hole and
    ducking fights at the Jolly Kone like you always do...

    Explain why are you death threat prosecution exempt by the Feds so far?

    And after _so many_ public death threats you issued on Trump and Vance...

    Let's do our best to change that, shall we:


    Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
    Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party/Alan Bond/Henry Bodkin/Malte
    Runz and a few dozen other socks wrote:

    Multiple death threats against Trump: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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    Oh poor me I got shot at ...

    Swill ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


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    Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

    Swill

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    From: J Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com>
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    No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
    thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
    is an important step to getting there.

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    That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
    18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the Presidency
    U.S. Code
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    (a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
    or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
    letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
    threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
    the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
    President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
    of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
    knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
    President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
    order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
    shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
    or both.
    (b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
    candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
    respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
    held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
    accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
    phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
    order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
    United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
    (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
    Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L. 97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

    9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
    Service Protectees
    The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
    supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
    caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
    the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
    U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
    United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
    involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
    settlement involving a § 871 charge.


    https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

    PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
    for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
    Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
    counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
    and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

    The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
    living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
    to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
    November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
    statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
    U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
    crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
    series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

    Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
    up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
    of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
    five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release.

    A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
    criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
    presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
    guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

    The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
    case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
    handling the prosecution.


    Those can be reported here:

    https://tips.fbi.gov/home

    https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

    https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

    https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


    Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's usenet terrorism here?

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