• Re: OT, but non-political.

    From James Nicoll@21:1/5 to petertrei@gmail.com on Mon Jan 27 02:16:44 2025
    In article <vn6pvn$b64j$1@dont-email.me>,
    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
    This evening, I stood outside my house, and could see Venus and Saturn
    in the western sky, and Jupiter and Mars in the eastern, at the same
    time.

    Sometimes its worthwhile to look up.

    I believe Uranus is also visible but only with a telescope. Although
    given Galileo spotted it without realizing it was a planet, maybe
    you don't need much of a telescope.



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  • From Jay Morris@21:1/5 to James Nicoll on Sun Jan 26 21:15:26 2025
    On 1/26/2025 8:16 PM, James Nicoll wrote:
    In article <vn6pvn$b64j$1@dont-email.me>,
    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
    This evening, I stood outside my house, and could see Venus and Saturn
    in the western sky, and Jupiter and Mars in the eastern, at the same
    time.

    Sometimes its worthwhile to look up.

    I believe Uranus is also visible but only with a telescope. Although
    given Galileo spotted it without realizing it was a planet, maybe
    you don't need much of a telescope.



    Neptune is in the parade but also only with a telescope.

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  • From Robert Woodward@21:1/5 to James Nicoll on Sun Jan 26 21:32:30 2025
    In article <vn6qac$h7g$1@reader2.panix.com>,
    jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:

    In article <vn6pvn$b64j$1@dont-email.me>,
    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
    This evening, I stood outside my house, and could see Venus and Saturn
    in the western sky, and Jupiter and Mars in the eastern, at the same
    time.

    Sometimes its worthwhile to look up.

    I believe Uranus is also visible but only with a telescope. Although
    given Galileo spotted it without realizing it was a planet, maybe
    you don't need much of a telescope.

    I believe that you need a very dark sky (not easily available in the
    21st Century).

    --
    "We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
    Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_. ‹-----------------------------------------------------
    Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com

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  • From Charles Packer@21:1/5 to Robert Woodward on Mon Jan 27 08:52:41 2025
    On Sun, 26 Jan 2025 21:32:30 -0800, Robert Woodward wrote:

    In article <vn6qac$h7g$1@reader2.panix.com>,
    jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:

    In article <vn6pvn$b64j$1@dont-email.me>,
    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
    This evening, I stood outside my house, and could see Venus and Saturn
    in the western sky, and Jupiter and Mars in the eastern, at the same
    time.

    Sometimes its worthwhile to look up.

    I believe Uranus is also visible but only with a telescope. Although
    given Galileo spotted it without realizing it was a planet, maybe you
    don't need much of a telescope.

    I believe that you need a very dark sky (not easily available in the
    21st Century).

    As it happens, later this week I'll be headed out to
    one of the dark sky areas in western Maryland that I found last
    summer. I'll take a sky map with me, my binocular, and try to
    find Uranus.
    https://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/Yoursky
    (default view)

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Lynn McGuire on Mon Jan 27 10:20:10 2025
    On Sun, 26 Jan 2025, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    On 1/26/2025 8:11 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
    This evening, I stood outside my house, and could see Venus and Saturn
    in the western sky, and Jupiter and Mars in the eastern, at the same
    time.

    Sometimes its worthwhile to look up.

    pt

    Don't Look Up.
    https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/dont_look_up_2021

    Lynn

    Excellent movie! Shows the horror of a world where wokeness has gone too
    far and the damage it could do to our planet. Highly recommended!

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  • From Scott Lurndal@21:1/5 to Cryptoengineer on Mon Jan 27 15:38:41 2025
    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> writes:
    On 1/27/2025 4:20 AM, D wrote:


    On Sun, 26 Jan 2025, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    On 1/26/2025 8:11 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
    This evening, I stood outside my house, and could see Venus and Saturn >>>> in the western sky, and Jupiter and Mars in the eastern, at the same
    time.

    Sometimes its worthwhile to look up.

    pt

    Don't Look Up.
      https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/dont_look_up_2021

    Lynn

    Excellent movie! Shows the horror of a world where wokeness has gone too
    far and the damage it could do to our planet. Highly recommended!

    How so?

    The end would have been the same regardless of people's political
    opinions.

    It wasn't wokeness that 'damaged the planet'.


    If you've been under a rock for the last several months,
    you may not be aware that the "D" poster has identified
    itself explicitly as a troll.

    Indeed, the point of the movie was to ridicule climate
    change deniers and trolls.

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  • From Steve Coltrin@21:1/5 to James Nicoll on Mon Jan 27 09:25:53 2025
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    jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) writes:

    I believe Uranus is also visible but only with a telescope. Although
    given Galileo spotted it without realizing it was a planet, maybe
    you don't need much of a telescope.

    I *think* I spotted it with Mk1 eyeball at a very dark sky site.

    --
    Steve Coltrin spcoltri@omcl.org
    "A group known as the League of Human Dignity helped arrange for Deuel
    to be driven to a local livestock scale, where he could be weighed."
    - Associated Press

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Cryptoengineer on Mon Jan 27 17:38:08 2025
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    while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.

    On Mon, 27 Jan 2025, Cryptoengineer wrote:

    On 1/27/2025 4:20 AM, D wrote:


    On Sun, 26 Jan 2025, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    On 1/26/2025 8:11 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
    This evening, I stood outside my house, and could see Venus and Saturn >>>> in the western sky, and Jupiter and Mars in the eastern, at the same
    time.

    Sometimes its worthwhile to look up.

    pt

    Don't Look Up.
      https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/dont_look_up_2021

    Lynn

    Excellent movie! Shows the horror of a world where wokeness has gone too
    far and the damage it could do to our planet. Highly recommended!

    How so?

    The end would have been the same regardless of people's political
    opinions.

    It wasn't wokeness that 'damaged the planet'.

    pt

    I disagree. With a solid, masculine and powerful culture in place, mankind would have united, and based on meritocracy developed the technology to successfully deal with the crisis. Due to wokeness and the polarization as
    a result thereof, the planet was destroyed.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Scott Lurndal on Mon Jan 27 17:39:22 2025
    On Mon, 27 Jan 2025, Scott Lurndal wrote:

    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> writes:
    On 1/27/2025 4:20 AM, D wrote:


    On Sun, 26 Jan 2025, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    On 1/26/2025 8:11 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
    This evening, I stood outside my house, and could see Venus and Saturn >>>>> in the western sky, and Jupiter and Mars in the eastern, at the same >>>>> time.

    Sometimes its worthwhile to look up.

    pt

    Don't Look Up.
    ?? https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/dont_look_up_2021

    Lynn

    Excellent movie! Shows the horror of a world where wokeness has gone too >>> far and the damage it could do to our planet. Highly recommended!

    How so?

    The end would have been the same regardless of people's political
    opinions.

    It wasn't wokeness that 'damaged the planet'.


    If you've been under a rock for the last several months,
    you may not be aware that the "D" poster has identified
    itself explicitly as a troll.

    You are racist Scott! I'm ultra male, please do not refer to me as "it"!

    Indeed, the point of the movie was to ridicule climate
    change deniers and trolls.

    Incorrect statement. The purpose of the movie was to ridicule climate
    hysterics and wokeness. You clearly were sleeping through all the money
    and missed everything.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Tony Nance on Fri Jan 31 09:53:50 2025
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    while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.

    On Thu, 30 Jan 2025, Tony Nance wrote:

    On 1/27/25 2:34 PM, William Hyde wrote:
    James Nicoll wrote:
    In article <vn6pvn$b64j$1@dont-email.me>,
    Cryptoengineer  <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
    This evening, I stood outside my house, and could see Venus and Saturn >>>> in the western sky, and Jupiter and Mars in the eastern, at the same
    time.

    Sometimes its worthwhile to look up.

    I believe Uranus is also visible but only with a telescope. Although
    given Galileo spotted it without realizing it was a planet, maybe
    you don't need much of a telescope.

    Uranus is a bit brighter than magnitude six, most of the time, and can be
    seen with normal vision in an unpolluted sky.

    Even in the darkest of skies I have never been able to see anything dimmer >> than magnitude 5.5, but I had a friend in undergrad astronomy
    who could see 6.5.

    Flamsteed in the late 1600s observed it several times, cataloging
    it, according to wikipedia anyway, as 34 Tauri.

    Wikipedia also says it may have been seen by Hipparchus in 128
    BC.  I did not know that.

    William Hyde


    I was pretty excited to catch Uranus with my decent binoculars last summer. This leaves Neptune and Pluto as the last ones I haven't seen with my binoculars or telescope[1]. Since I'm too lazy to pull out the well-packed-away telescope, it will probably be a few years before I can catch Neptune. I doubt I have the equipment or ability to ever see Pluto on my own.

    Tony
    [1] Whether one counts Pluto as a planet or not, I'd still like to see it.

    Why did you check out my anus?

    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=comedy+drum+sound+effect

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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 4 13:29:33 2025
    On Sun, 26 Jan 2025 21:11:03 -0500, Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com>
    wrote in <vn6pvn$b64j$1@dont-email.me>:

    This evening, I stood outside my house, and could see Venus and Saturn
    in the western sky, and Jupiter and Mars in the eastern, at the same
    time.

    Sometimes its worthwhile to look up.

    pt

    With binoculars, one can sometimes see tiny pinpricks of light
    around Jupiter -- the Galilean moons.

    --
    -v

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  • From Jay Morris@21:1/5 to vallor on Wed Feb 5 09:56:59 2025
    On 2/4/2025 7:29 AM, vallor wrote:
    On Sun, 26 Jan 2025 21:11:03 -0500, Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote in <vn6pvn$b64j$1@dont-email.me>:

    This evening, I stood outside my house, and could see Venus and Saturn
    in the western sky, and Jupiter and Mars in the eastern, at the same
    time.

    Sometimes its worthwhile to look up.

    pt

    With binoculars, one can sometimes see tiny pinpricks of light
    around Jupiter -- the Galilean moons.


    This is what pisses me off most about my monocular diplopia[1]. 20-20
    vision but it doesn't allow me to distinguish things clearly, even
    through telescope or binoculars. And I love looking at the stars.

    [1]Double vision in a eye. I see overlapping images. For example, I'm
    looking at a candle flame, one eye shut, and I still see two images
    overlapping vertically, although one is dimmer. No correction for it. My ophthalmologist can't find a reason, such as Corneal scarring or damage,
    and it may be my eyes are just old.

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