• Re: BREAKING: Trump said he's sending Elon to go get abandoned astronau

    From Mad Hamish@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 30 11:02:54 2025
    On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 22:01:04 -0600, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:


    Apologies, had to change the heading because the Eternal November
    server is rejecting it

    “BREAKING: Trump said he’s sending Elon to go get abandoned astronauts”

    https://therightscoop.com/breaking-trump-said-hes-sending-elon-to-go-get-abandoned-astronauts/

    Wait, is Elon himself heading to the ISS ?

    D.D. Harriman was never allowed in space even though he owned all of the >space ships. He had to sneak into Space and the Moon with a couple of
    old spacemen and an old junked space ship. “Requiem” by Robert A. Heinlein.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Requiem_(short_story)
    and

    https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v24n05_1940-01_dtsg0318/page/n79/mode/2up?view=theater


    This is typical Trump administration bullshit

    The plan was made in September last year https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-29/spacex-launches-rescue-mission-to-bring-home-stranded-astronauts/104410358

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to newsunspammelaws@iinet.unspamme.net on Thu Jan 30 08:53:45 2025
    On Thu, 30 Jan 2025 11:02:54 +1100, Mad Hamish <newsunspammelaws@iinet.unspamme.net.au> wrote:

    On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 22:01:04 -0600, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:


    Apologies, had to change the heading because the Eternal November
    server is rejecting it

    If it is rejecting it because of the hyphen in "he’s" isn't an ASCII
    hyphen, some time ago I found that adjusting Agent to use MIME headers
    and "Quoted Printable (MIME)" usenet text fixed the problem.

    “BREAKING: Trump said he’s sending Elon to go get abandoned astronauts”
    >>https://therightscoop.com/breaking-trump-said-hes-sending-elon-to-go-get-abandoned-astronauts/

    Wait, is Elon himself heading to the ISS ?

    D.D. Harriman was never allowed in space even though he owned all of the >>space ships. He had to sneak into Space and the Moon with a couple of
    old spacemen and an old junked space ship. “Requiem” by Robert A. Heinlein. >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Requiem_(short_story)
    and
    >>https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v24n05_1940-01_dtsg0318/page/n79/mode/2up?view=theater


    This is typical Trump administration bullshit

    Actually, the level of typical Trump BS has become much, much higher.

    There is no comparison between this and trying to override the
    Constitution with an Executive Order.

    All those Executive Orders are raising the bar for Trump BS to be
    "typical" to really impressive heights.

    A rising tide, and least Trump-BS-wise, does indeed lift all boats.

    The plan was made in September last year >https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-29/spacex-launches-rescue-mission-to-bring-home-stranded-astronauts/104410358

    Indeed it was.

    And not by Trump.
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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to psperson@old.netcom.invalid on Thu Jan 30 22:37:03 2025
    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
    If it is rejecting it because of the hyphen in "he=92s" isn't an ASCII >hyphen, some time ago I found that adjusting Agent to use MIME headers
    and "Quoted Printable (MIME)" usenet text fixed the problem.

    Please don't do this. Please just use USASCII. Just remove the weird high-bit characters.
    --scott

    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to Scott Dorsey on Fri Jan 31 08:20:51 2025
    On 30 Jan 2025 22:37:03 -0000, kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
    If it is rejecting it because of the hyphen in "he=92s" isn't an ASCII >>hyphen, some time ago I found that adjusting Agent to use MIME headers
    and "Quoted Printable (MIME)" usenet text fixed the problem.

    Please don't do this. Please just use USASCII. Just remove the weird >high-bit characters.

    I don't /originate/ these headers. I merely reply to the post. Agent
    doesn't use the funny apostophes, as those in this paragraph clearly
    show.

    So, if you want entirely ASCII Subject headers here, you need to talk
    to those deviating from your desire.

    All I did was find a way to not have to avoid error messages from
    Eternal September.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 4 08:54:29 2025
    On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 13:07:41 +0000, quadibloc <quadibloc@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Also, while pardoning the January 6 rioters was very bad, and especially >including
    those who committed acts of violence against police officers because he
    was too
    lazy to review the cases individually was bad indeed... going after the
    FBI agents
    who were doing their jobs in hunting them down is, I think, one of the
    most
    egregious acts in a Presidency that has been a litany of egregious acts
    so far.

    It is clear that you feel the Shock.

    But do you feel any Awe? I sure don't.

    Or has Trump failed once again?

    As to the FBI agents, he may be in for a /big/ surprise: government
    employees who are acting within the parameters of their duties
    /cannot/ be held personally accountable for the actions they take.
    Instead, the government is to be held accountable.

    And, thanks to the Supreme Court, Biden has the same immunity (for
    actions taken while President) as Trump does for acts within the scope
    of his duties. Those members of Congress whining about Trump's
    "violating the law" need to remember that he is allowed to do exactly
    that by the Supreme Court Moscow Mitch and the other Republicans
    allowed him to assemble.

    Lots of lawsuits coming! This will be a /very/ exciting "Presidency"
    -- if that term can be used when the office is held by a 3-year-old
    prone to throwing temper tantrums.

    It may even feature a war or two!
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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  • From Scott Lurndal@21:1/5 to Paul S Person on Tue Feb 4 20:18:39 2025
    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
    On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 13:07:41 +0000, quadibloc <quadibloc@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Also, while pardoning the January 6 rioters was very bad, and especially >>including
    those who committed acts of violence against police officers because he
    was too
    lazy to review the cases individually was bad indeed... going after the
    FBI agents
    who were doing their jobs in hunting them down is, I think, one of the
    most
    egregious acts in a Presidency that has been a litany of egregious acts
    so far.

    It is clear that you feel the Shock.

    But do you feel any Awe? I sure don't.

    Or has Trump failed once again?

    As to the FBI agents, he may be in for a /big/ surprise: government
    employees who are acting within the parameters of their duties
    /cannot/ be held personally accountable for the actions they take.
    Instead, the government is to be held accountable.

    And, thanks to the Supreme Court, Biden has the same immunity (for
    actions taken while President) as Trump does for acts within the scope
    of his duties. Those members of Congress whining about Trump's
    "violating the law" need to remember that he is allowed to do exactly
    that by the Supreme Court Moscow Mitch and the other Republicans
    allowed him to assemble.

    Lots of lawsuits coming! This will be a /very/ exciting "Presidency"
    -- if that term can be used when the office is held by a 3-year-old
    prone to throwing temper tantrums.

    It may even feature a war or two!

    May? He already started a trade war.

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  • From Mike Spencer@21:1/5 to quadibloc on Tue Feb 4 18:58:11 2025
    quadibloc <quadibloc@gmail.com> writes:

    Yesterday, in a Fox News interview, Vice-President J. D. Vance
    revealed - unintentionally - that all this talk about a Russian and
    Chinese menace in the Arctic is just a pretext, and Trump plans to
    invade and conquer Greenland in order to exploit the mineral
    resources there - resources that Denmark has forbore to exploit due
    to the delicate nature of the ecosystem of Greenland given its harsh environment.

    He is ignorant, stupid and demented. So he will propose that nuclear
    devices of the slow kind be placed in the Greenland ice cap, melting
    it away within two years. All that nice fresh water can be sent to
    California provisional on that state adopting a grovelling subservient
    posture to his vision, else it can just run into the sea. That will
    clear the ground for mines, air bases, condo towers, casinos and real
    estate deals.


    --
    Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 5 08:38:27 2025
    On Tue, 04 Feb 2025 20:18:39 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
    wrote:

    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
    On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 13:07:41 +0000, quadibloc <quadibloc@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Also, while pardoning the January 6 rioters was very bad, and especially >>>including
    those who committed acts of violence against police officers because he >>>was too
    lazy to review the cases individually was bad indeed... going after the >>>FBI agents
    who were doing their jobs in hunting them down is, I think, one of the >>>most
    egregious acts in a Presidency that has been a litany of egregious acts >>>so far.

    It is clear that you feel the Shock.

    But do you feel any Awe? I sure don't.

    Or has Trump failed once again?

    As to the FBI agents, he may be in for a /big/ surprise: government >>employees who are acting within the parameters of their duties
    /cannot/ be held personally accountable for the actions they take.
    Instead, the government is to be held accountable.

    And, thanks to the Supreme Court, Biden has the same immunity (for
    actions taken while President) as Trump does for acts within the scope
    of his duties. Those members of Congress whining about Trump's
    "violating the law" need to remember that he is allowed to do exactly
    that by the Supreme Court Moscow Mitch and the other Republicans
    allowed him to assemble.

    Lots of lawsuits coming! This will be a /very/ exciting "Presidency"
    -- if that term can be used when the office is held by a 3-year-old
    prone to throwing temper tantrums.

    It may even feature a war or two!

    May? He already started a trade war.

    And a war on immigrants. And not just those in the country illegally.
    This has the potential to become a civil war, as it were, between Musk
    and some Republicans.

    And a War on DEI, which is getting nasty when applied to businesses. Apparently, Republican concern over matters of conscience is only
    aroused when people they agree with are being coerced.

    And I'm sure the War on Drugs will resurface at some point. I think we
    can forget Federal relaxation on MJ for a while. No matter what the
    country thinks.

    But I'm thinking here of a /real/ war. It may seem unlikely, but that
    is why the future is getting so exciting.

    Buckle up! We have a long bumpy ride ahead!
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere on Wed Feb 5 08:39:15 2025
    On 04 Feb 2025 18:58:11 -0400, Mike Spencer
    <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote:


    quadibloc <quadibloc@gmail.com> writes:

    Yesterday, in a Fox News interview, Vice-President J. D. Vance
    revealed - unintentionally - that all this talk about a Russian and
    Chinese menace in the Arctic is just a pretext, and Trump plans to
    invade and conquer Greenland in order to exploit the mineral
    resources there - resources that Denmark has forbore to exploit due
    to the delicate nature of the ecosystem of Greenland given its harsh
    environment.

    He is ignorant, stupid and demented. So he will propose that nuclear
    devices of the slow kind be placed in the Greenland ice cap, melting
    it away within two years. All that nice fresh water can be sent to >California provisional on that state adopting a grovelling subservient >posture to his vision, else it can just run into the sea. That will
    clear the ground for mines, air bases, condo towers, casinos and real
    estate deals.

    An excellent summary of his plans.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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  • From Mad Hamish@21:1/5 to psperson@old.netcom.invalid on Sun Feb 9 02:36:16 2025
    On Tue, 04 Feb 2025 08:54:29 -0800, Paul S Person
    <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

    On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 13:07:41 +0000, quadibloc <quadibloc@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Also, while pardoning the January 6 rioters was very bad, and especially >>including
    those who committed acts of violence against police officers because he
    was too
    lazy to review the cases individually was bad indeed... going after the
    FBI agents
    who were doing their jobs in hunting them down is, I think, one of the
    most
    egregious acts in a Presidency that has been a litany of egregious acts
    so far.

    It is clear that you feel the Shock.

    But do you feel any Awe? I sure don't.

    Or has Trump failed once again?

    As to the FBI agents, he may be in for a /big/ surprise: government
    employees who are acting within the parameters of their duties
    /cannot/ be held personally accountable for the actions they take.
    Instead, the government is to be held accountable.

    And, thanks to the Supreme Court, Biden has the same immunity (for
    actions taken while President) as Trump does for acts within the scope
    of his duties. Those members of Congress whining about Trump's
    "violating the law" need to remember that he is allowed to do exactly
    that by the Supreme Court Moscow Mitch and the other Republicans
    allowed him to assemble.

    It's not quite that wide ranging
    "Presidents have immunity from criminal prosecution as it relates to
    core constitutional acts of their office, presumptive immunity for
    official acts, but none for unofficial acts, a divided Supreme Court
    ruled July 1."

    Now exaclty where the limits are legally I'm not really qualified to
    say, and exactly where the current Supreme Court would say the limits
    are is a different question as well

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to newsunspammelaws@iinet.unspamme.net on Sat Feb 8 08:39:26 2025
    On Sun, 09 Feb 2025 02:36:16 +1100, Mad Hamish <newsunspammelaws@iinet.unspamme.net.au> wrote:

    On Tue, 04 Feb 2025 08:54:29 -0800, Paul S Person ><psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

    On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 13:07:41 +0000, quadibloc <quadibloc@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Also, while pardoning the January 6 rioters was very bad, and especially >>>including
    those who committed acts of violence against police officers because he >>>was too
    lazy to review the cases individually was bad indeed... going after the >>>FBI agents
    who were doing their jobs in hunting them down is, I think, one of the >>>most
    egregious acts in a Presidency that has been a litany of egregious acts >>>so far.

    It is clear that you feel the Shock.

    But do you feel any Awe? I sure don't.

    Or has Trump failed once again?

    As to the FBI agents, he may be in for a /big/ surprise: government >>employees who are acting within the parameters of their duties
    /cannot/ be held personally accountable for the actions they take.
    Instead, the government is to be held accountable.

    And, thanks to the Supreme Court, Biden has the same immunity (for
    actions taken while President) as Trump does for acts within the scope
    of his duties. Those members of Congress whining about Trump's
    "violating the law" need to remember that he is allowed to do exactly
    that by the Supreme Court Moscow Mitch and the other Republicans
    allowed him to assemble.

    It's not quite that wide ranging
    "Presidents have immunity from criminal prosecution as it relates to
    core constitutional acts of their office, presumptive immunity for
    official acts, but none for unofficial acts, a divided Supreme Court
    ruled July 1."

    Now exaclty where the limits are legally I'm not really qualified to
    say, and exactly where the current Supreme Court would say the limits
    are is a different question as well

    Nonetheless, some Republicans don't seem to realize that, when they
    complain about his firing all of the Inspectors General because he
    failed to provide the mandated-by-law prior notice to Congress that
    that statement /in itself/ shows that his executive order was an
    official act and so he has presumptive immunity for violating the law.
    No awareness at all. The reality that Congress is now irrelevant has
    not yet settled in. All that is needed is for the Senate and the House
    to disagree about when to recess, and Trump can (under the
    Constitution) step in and say when ("right now") and for long long
    ("for all eternity"). And, with Trump people in charge of both, that
    is inevitable.

    But, yes, the courts are speaking. And Seattle's Judge Coughenor being particularly unimpressed by the Justice Department's arguments over
    birthright citizenship. And verbally vehement about it as well.

    Trunp's "buyout" (I'm unclear as to whether this is what he calls it,
    or just what others think of it) also appears to be on hold.

    There are State-level lawsuits out there as well that should be moving
    toward a court date.

    The Supremes are going have an interesting season, one of these years.

    Well, unless Trump signs an Executive Order dissolving them, of
    course.

    Buckle up! Rough times ahead!
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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