• Re: Nebula finalists 2021

    From Robert Woodward@21:1/5 to James Nicoll on Mon Feb 3 09:58:49 2025
    In article <vnqk3c$7ov$2@reader2.panix.com>,
    jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:

    2021! The Ever Given stops traffic in the Suez Canal, scandal-plagued Benjamin Netanyahu is voted out of office, surely never to return, and
    Donald Trump attempts a coup, the failure of which exposes him to the
    worst punishment possible for magnate-caste Americans: very mild
    disapproval, without any significant associated financial, legal, or
    as it turned out, political consequences.

    Which 2021 Nebula Finalist ...

    None of them.

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  • From Garrett Wollman@21:1/5 to James Nicoll on Mon Feb 3 18:14:11 2025
    In article <vnqk3c$7ov$2@reader2.panix.com>,
    James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:

    Which 2021 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
    Network Effect by Martha Wells
    Black Sun by Rebecca Roanhorse
    Mexican Gothic by Silvia Moreno-Garcia
    Piranesi by Susanna Clarke
    The City We Became by N. K. Jemisin
    The Midnight Bargain by C. L. Polk

    I have read all of these.

    I own the Jemisin but haven't yet read it. (I did read "The City Born
    Great" from which it developed.)

    Which 2021 Nebula Finalist Novellas Have You Read?
    Ring Shout; or, Hunting Ku Kluxes in the End Times
    by P. Djeli Clark
    Finna by Nino Cipri
    Ife-Iyoku, the Tale of Imadeyunuagbon by Ekpeki Oghenechovwe Donald
    Riot Baby by Tochi Onyebuchi
    The Four Profound Weaves by R. B. Lemberg
    Tower of Mud and Straw by Yaroslav Barsukov

    The Clark, the Cipri, the Onyebuchi, and the Lemberg.

    I think I tried reading the Cipri, which was also nominated for the
    Hugo.

    Which 2021 Nebula Finalist Novelettes Have You Read?
    Two Truths and a Lie by Sarah Pinsker
    Burn or the Episodic Life of Sam Wells As a Super by A. T. Greenblatt
    Shadow Prisons of the Mind by Caroline M. Yoachim
    Stepsister by Leah Cypess
    The Pill by Meg Elison
    The Shadow Prison Experiment by Caroline M. Yoachim
    The Shadow Prisoner's Dilemma by Caroline M. Yoachim
    Where You Linger by Bonnie Jo Stufflebeam

    None.

    I also have none, although I'm pretty sure I started one or two of the Hugo-nominated ones and didn't finish any. Only three of these were
    on the Hugo shortlist.

    Which 2021 Nebula Finalist Short Stories Have You Read?
    Open House on Haunted Hill by John Wiswell
    A Guide for Working Breeds by Vina Jie-Min Prasad
    Advanced Word Problems in Portal Math by Aimee Picchi
    Badass Moms in the Zombie Apocalypse by Rae Carson
    My Country Is a Ghost by Eugenia Triantafyllou
    The Eight-Thousanders by Jason Sanford

    None.

    Definitely read the Wiswell and the Carson, but have no particular
    memory of them. Tried the Prasad and bounced hard. Those are the
    only ones in the intersection with the Hugo shortlist.

    Someone has probably already done the research about how the Hugo and
    Nebula shortlists correlate over time. Interesting that 2021 had
    about 50% overlap.

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  • From James Nicoll@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 3 14:33:16 2025
    2021! The Ever Given stops traffic in the Suez Canal, scandal-plagued
    Benjamin Netanyahu is voted out of office, surely never to return, and
    Donald Trump attempts a coup, the failure of which exposes him to the
    worst punishment possible for magnate-caste Americans: very mild
    disapproval, without any significant associated financial, legal, or
    as it turned out, political consequences.

    Which 2021 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
    Network Effect by Martha Wells
    Black Sun by Rebecca Roanhorse
    Mexican Gothic by Silvia Moreno-Garcia
    Piranesi by Susanna Clarke
    The City We Became by N. K. Jemisin
    The Midnight Bargain by C. L. Polk

    I have read all of these.


    Which 2021 Nebula Finalist Novellas Have You Read?
    Ring Shout; or, Hunting Ku Kluxes in the End Times
    by P. Djeli Clark
    Finna by Nino Cipri
    Ife-Iyoku, the Tale of Imadeyunuagbon by Ekpeki Oghenechovwe Donald
    Riot Baby by Tochi Onyebuchi
    The Four Profound Weaves by R. B. Lemberg
    Tower of Mud and Straw by Yaroslav Barsukov

    The Clark, the Cipri, the Onyebuchi, and the Lemberg.


    Which 2021 Nebula Finalist Novelettes Have You Read?
    Two Truths and a Lie by Sarah Pinsker
    Burn or the Episodic Life of Sam Wells As a Super by A. T. Greenblatt
    Shadow Prisons of the Mind by Caroline M. Yoachim
    Stepsister by Leah Cypess
    The Pill by Meg Elison
    The Shadow Prison Experiment by Caroline M. Yoachim
    The Shadow Prisoner's Dilemma by Caroline M. Yoachim
    Where You Linger by Bonnie Jo Stufflebeam

    None.


    Which 2021 Nebula Finalist Short Stories Have You Read?
    Open House on Haunted Hill by John Wiswell
    A Guide for Working Breeds by Vina Jie-Min Prasad
    Advanced Word Problems in Portal Math by Aimee Picchi
    Badass Moms in the Zombie Apocalypse by Rae Carson
    My Country Is a Ghost by Eugenia Triantafyllou
    The Eight-Thousanders by Jason Sanford

    None.


    Which 2021 Nebula Finalist Game Have You Played?
    Hades by Greg Kasavin
    Blaseball by Stephen Bell and Joel Clark and Sam Rosenthal
    Kentucky Route Zero by Jake Elliott
    Scents & Semiosis by Sam Kabo Ashwell, Cat Manning, Caleb Wilson, and Yoon Ha Lee
    Spiritfarer by Nicolas Guerin, Maxime Monast, Alex Tommi-Morin
    The Luminous Underground by Phoebe Barton

    And none,
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  • From Default User@21:1/5 to James Nicoll on Tue Feb 4 07:50:20 2025
    James Nicoll wrote:


    Which 2021 Nebula Finalist Novels Have You Read?
    Network Effect by Martha Wells

    This is the only one for me. I didn't like this as well as the
    novellas, but it's still a good read.


    Which 2021 Nebula Finalist Novelettes Have You Read?
    Two Truths and a Lie by Sarah Pinsker

    I read this recently in her collection Lost Places: Stories.


    Brian

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