I'm a little skeptical as this seems like the kind of thing that would require an announcement, and I haven't gotten one, but this UK pundit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMoCzeGnIss
says that the ability to download a Kindle ebook to your hard drive
is going away in a week or so.
Very worrying if true (possibly a UK only thing?)
Since I routinely put everything I buy into Calibre, this would be
an unwelcome development, though I think I could get around it (so far)
with an extra step of uploading the file from the Kindle in mass storage mode.
Does anyone have more details?
I'm a little skeptical as this seems like the kind of thing that would >require an announcement, and I haven't gotten one, but this UK pundit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMoCzeGnIss
says that the ability to download a Kindle ebook to your hard drive
is going away in a week or so.
Very worrying if true (possibly a UK only thing?)
Since I routinely put everything I buy into Calibre, this would be
an unwelcome development, though I think I could get around it (so far)
with an extra step of uploading the file from the Kindle in mass storage >mode.
Does anyone have more details?
I'm a little skeptical as this seems like the kind of thing that would require an announcement, and I haven't gotten one, but this UK pundit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMoCzeGnIss
says that the ability to download a Kindle ebook to your hard drive
is going away in a week or so.
Very worrying if true (possibly a UK only thing?)
Since I routinely put everything I buy into Calibre, this would be
an unwelcome development, though I think I could get around it (so far)
with an extra step of uploading the file from the Kindle in mass storage mode.
Does anyone have more details?
I'm a little skeptical as this seems like the kind of thing that would >require an announcement, and I haven't gotten one, but this UK pundit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMoCzeGnIss
says that the ability to download a Kindle ebook to your hard drive
is going away in a week or so.
Very worrying if true (possibly a UK only thing?)
Since I routinely put everything I buy into Calibre, this would be
an unwelcome development, though I think I could get around it (so far)
with an extra step of uploading the file from the Kindle in mass storage >mode.
Does anyone have more details?
I'm a little skeptical as this seems like the kind of thing that would require an announcement, and I haven't gotten one, but this UK pundit
says that the ability to download a Kindle ebook to your hard drive
is going away in a week or so.
ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan wrote:
I'm a little skeptical as this seems like the kind of thing that would
require an announcement, and I haven't gotten one, but this UK pundit
says that the ability to download a Kindle ebook to your hard drive
is going away in a week or so.
It doesn't really affect me, as I don't have any of the devices that
allow download in the first place. Back in the day, I used the Calibre >plugins on the old azw files that you used to get, but that went away
some time ago.
For the most part, I've moved away from Amazon to Kobo, which gives you
epub files that you can download. You can use Calibre to convert epubs
to mobi or azw3 to use on a kindle device if you want.
Brian
In article <vp9cc1$3acdu$1@dont-email.me>,
Default User <defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> wrote:
For the most part, I've moved away from Amazon to Kobo, which gives
you epub files that you can download. You can use Calibre to
convert epubs to mobi or azw3 to use on a kindle device if you want.
I still get azw/azw3 files as I still use the 2011 "Kindle Keyboard"
device. The new ones don't have an aux jack, plus Calibre decrypt
still works.
ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan wrote:
In article <vp9cc1$3acdu$1@dont-email.me>,
Default User <defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> wrote:
For the most part, I've moved away from Amazon to Kobo, which gives
you epub files that you can download. You can use Calibre to
convert epubs to mobi or azw3 to use on a kindle device if you want.
I still get azw/azw3 files as I still use the 2011 "Kindle Keyboard"
device. The new ones don't have an aux jack, plus Calibre decrypt
still works.
I don't have any actual Kindle devices, just apps for Windows and iOs.
The ability to get a workable file for those ended some time back.
ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan wrote:
In article <vp9cc1$3acdu$1@dont-email.me>,
Default User <defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> wrote:
For the most part, I've moved away from Amazon to Kobo, which gives
you epub files that you can download. You can use Calibre to
convert epubs to mobi or azw3 to use on a kindle device if you want.
I still get azw/azw3 files as I still use the 2011 "Kindle Keyboard"
device. The new ones don't have an aux jack, plus Calibre decrypt
still works.
I don't have any actual Kindle devices, just apps for Windows and iOs.
The ability to get a workable file for those ended some time back.
On Sat, 22 Feb 2025 06:45:15 -0000 (UTC), "Default User" <defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> wrote:
I don't have any actual Kindle devices, just apps for Windows and
iOs. The ability to get a workable file for those ended some time
back.
There is (was) said to be a Kindle application for Windows.
And the Amazon Website has a reader for Kindle books. I use it to get
the ISBN and publisher info for my database. I have to copy these by
hand as the reader knows nothing of copy-and-paste.
On 22 Feb 2025 at 06:45:15 GMT, ""Default User""
<defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> wrote:
I don't have any actual Kindle devices, just apps for Windows and
iOs. The ability to get a workable file for those ended some time
back.
Kindles download the same encrypted files, so you couldn't decrypt
them by USB copy either.
Buy your ebooks to pay the authors and get their sales rank up on your preferred ebook platform, then if you can't decrypt them go grab the
raw epub from Anna's Archive or whatever.
Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
On 22 Feb 2025 at 06:45:15 GMT, ""Default User""
<defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> wrote:
I don't have any actual Kindle devices, just apps for Windows and
iOs. The ability to get a workable file for those ended some time
back.
Kindles download the same encrypted files, so you couldn't decrypt
them by USB copy either.
Buy your ebooks to pay the authors and get their sales rank up on your
preferred ebook platform, then if you can't decrypt them go grab the
raw epub from Anna's Archive or whatever.
I don't know what you are getting at. I merely mentioned that the
download issue is irrelevant to me as I don't have a device that would
allow it.
I'm a little skeptical as this seems like the kind of thing that would >require an announcement, and I haven't gotten one, but this UK pundit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMoCzeGnIss
says that the ability to download a Kindle ebook to your hard drive
is going away in a week or so.
Very worrying if true (possibly a UK only thing?)
Since I routinely put everything I buy into Calibre, this would be
an unwelcome development, though I think I could get around it (so far)
with an extra step of uploading the file from the Kindle in mass storage >mode.
Does anyone have more details?
On 23 Feb 2025 at 07:22:11 GMT, ""Default User""
<defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> wrote:
Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
On 22 Feb 2025 at 06:45:15 GMT, ""Default User""
<defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> wrote:
I don't have any actual Kindle devices, just apps for Windows and
iOs. The ability to get a workable file for those ended some time
back.
Kindles download the same encrypted files, so you couldn't decrypt
them by USB copy either.
Buy your ebooks to pay the authors and get their sales rank up on your
preferred ebook platform, then if you can't decrypt them go grab the
raw epub from Anna's Archive or whatever.
I don't know what you are getting at. I merely mentioned that the
download issue is irrelevant to me as I don't have a device that would
allow it.
I'm not just talking to you there.
The point is exactly what I said above. It makes no difference if you
can't copy the encrypted book files off a physical Kindle by USB any
more, because they're not decryptable anyway. Same as your Kindle
software files aren't.
On 17 Feb 2025 23:23:18 GMT, ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
<tednolan>) wrote:
I'm a little skeptical as this seems like the kind of thing that would >>require an announcement, and I haven't gotten one, but this UK pundit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMoCzeGnIss
says that the ability to download a Kindle ebook to your hard drive
is going away in a week or so.
Very worrying if true (possibly a UK only thing?)
Since I routinely put everything I buy into Calibre, this would be
an unwelcome development, though I think I could get around it (so far) >>with an extra step of uploading the file from the Kindle in mass storage >>mode.
Does anyone have more details?
This may have been reported already, but today I purchased two Kindle
books and both produced this message when I requested the download:
Starting February 26, 2025, the “Download & Transfer via USB” option
will no longer be available. You can still send Kindle books to your
Wi-Fi enabled devices by selecting the “Deliver or Remove from Device” >option.
So I suppose anyone who has requested a download recently has been
informed.
This was Amazon in the USA. Amazon in other countries may be doing
something different, who can say?
In article <m20l69Fr4d9U1@mid.individual.net>,
Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
On 23 Feb 2025 at 07:22:11 GMT, ""Default User""
<defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> wrote:
Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
On 22 Feb 2025 at 06:45:15 GMT, ""Default User""
<defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> wrote:
I don't have any actual Kindle devices, just apps for Windows and
iOs. The ability to get a workable file for those ended some time
back.
Kindles download the same encrypted files, so you couldn't decrypt
them by USB copy either.
Buy your ebooks to pay the authors and get their sales rank up on your >>>> preferred ebook platform, then if you can't decrypt them go grab the
raw epub from Anna's Archive or whatever.
I don't know what you are getting at. I merely mentioned that the
download issue is irrelevant to me as I don't have a device that would
allow it.
I'm not just talking to you there.
The point is exactly what I said above. It makes no difference if you
can't copy the encrypted book files off a physical Kindle by USB any
more, because they're not decryptable anyway. Same as your Kindle
software files aren't.
But you *can* copy the files off a kindle by USB. The coming change
is that Amazon's web page will no longer download the files to your
hard drive for you to copy to your Kindle over USB. Instead it will
only transfer the files directly to your kindle over wifi. There
is nothing to keep you from transfering them back from the Kindle
to your harddrive.
Whether you will be able to de-DRM them once you do that is a different issue, but since I will still be getting AZW/AZW3 files I anticipate
that I will be able to.
On 23 Feb 2025 at 18:34:36 GMT, "Ted Nolan <tednolan>" <Ted Nolan
<tednolan>> wrote:
In article <m20l69Fr4d9U1@mid.individual.net>,
Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
On 23 Feb 2025 at 07:22:11 GMT, ""Default User""
<defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> wrote:
Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
On 22 Feb 2025 at 06:45:15 GMT, ""Default User""
<defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> wrote:
I don't have any actual Kindle devices, just apps for Windows and
iOs. The ability to get a workable file for those ended some time >>>>>> back.
Kindles download the same encrypted files, so you couldn't decrypt
them by USB copy either.
Buy your ebooks to pay the authors and get their sales rank up on your >>>>> preferred ebook platform, then if you can't decrypt them go grab the >>>>> raw epub from Anna's Archive or whatever.
I don't know what you are getting at. I merely mentioned that the
download issue is irrelevant to me as I don't have a device that would >>>> allow it.
I'm not just talking to you there.
The point is exactly what I said above. It makes no difference if you
can't copy the encrypted book files off a physical Kindle by USB any
more, because they're not decryptable anyway. Same as your Kindle
software files aren't.
But you *can* copy the files off a kindle by USB. The coming change
is that Amazon's web page will no longer download the files to your
hard drive for you to copy to your Kindle over USB. Instead it will
only transfer the files directly to your kindle over wifi. There
is nothing to keep you from transfering them back from the Kindle
to your harddrive.
Whether you will be able to de-DRM them once you do that is a different
issue, but since I will still be getting AZW/AZW3 files I anticipate
that I will be able to.
You will? How come? My Oasis and Paperwhite get the same uncrackable
ones that the desktop app does.
On 22 Feb 2025 at 06:45:15 GMT, ""Default User""
<defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> wrote:
ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan wrote:
In article <vp9cc1$3acdu$1@dont-email.me>,
Default User <defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> wrote:
For the most part, I've moved away from Amazon to Kobo, which gives
you epub files that you can download. You can use Calibre to
convert epubs to mobi or azw3 to use on a kindle device if you want.
I still get azw/azw3 files as I still use the 2011 "Kindle Keyboard"
device. The new ones don't have an aux jack, plus Calibre decrypt
still works.
I don't have any actual Kindle devices, just apps for Windows and iOs.
The ability to get a workable file for those ended some time back.
Kindles download the same encrypted files, so you couldn't decrypt them
by USB copy either.
Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
On 22 Feb 2025 at 06:45:15 GMT, ""Default User""
<defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> wrote:
ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan wrote:
In article <vp9cc1$3acdu$1@dont-email.me>,
Default User <defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> wrote:
For the most part, I've moved away from Amazon to Kobo, which gives
you epub files that you can download. You can use Calibre to
convert epubs to mobi or azw3 to use on a kindle device if you want.
I still get azw/azw3 files as I still use the 2011 "Kindle Keyboard"
device. The new ones don't have an aux jack, plus Calibre decrypt
still works.
I don't have any actual Kindle devices, just apps for Windows and iOs.
The ability to get a workable file for those ended some time back.
Kindles download the same encrypted files, so you couldn't decrypt them
by USB copy either.
"USB Copy" normally refers to downloading it on Amazon's website "for"
a physical Kindle - so far this has ALWAYS resulted in the older
(trivially crackable) format even if it's locked to the serial number
of a brand new Kindle which would download the new format if
downloading via Wifi/4G (and every possible firmware version for it
support the new system).
So what you say is true but not relevant for this discussion. It's
also different to downloads for the apps where they closed this
specific loophole many years ago.
They're now finally closing the last loophole. Or at least closing in
some circumstances, I didn't get that text in Amazon when I downloaded
a purchase about one week ago (long after other reported seeing it).
So it's possible they're only doing this for US accounts but I think
it's more likely their notification is broken and that they're
dropping the KF8/AZW3 format completely. I guess having less formats
will save a bit of storage.
The KFX format came out in 2015 and support was backported to their
2013 and up Kindle models. So we're talking 11+ year old devices, not
sure they can even connect to Amazon's website any longer - I know the
Kindle Keyboard from 2010 can't due to certificate issues.
Yes, there will be SOME old Kindle left in use that can't handle KFX
format but they're going to be RARE enough that Amazon is unlikely to
care. And it's not just batteries, all mine that are old enough are
long since dead from other reasons - IE won't charge battery but a new >battery doesn't fix it so... "broken". Some of these were already on
their second battery when something else broke.
In article <culmrjh74qc7n1tbji7ej2s9bv2ummd6gv@4ax.com>,
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
On 17 Feb 2025 23:23:18 GMT, ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
<tednolan>) wrote:
I'm a little skeptical as this seems like the kind of thing that would >>>require an announcement, and I haven't gotten one, but this UK pundit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMoCzeGnIss
says that the ability to download a Kindle ebook to your hard drive
is going away in a week or so.
Very worrying if true (possibly a UK only thing?)
Since I routinely put everything I buy into Calibre, this would be
an unwelcome development, though I think I could get around it (so far) >>>with an extra step of uploading the file from the Kindle in mass storage >>>mode.
Does anyone have more details?
This may have been reported already, but today I purchased two Kindle
books and both produced this message when I requested the download:
Starting February 26, 2025, the “Download & Transfer via USB” option
will no longer be available. You can still send Kindle books to your
Wi-Fi enabled devices by selecting the “Deliver or Remove from Device” >>option.
So I suppose anyone who has requested a download recently has been >>informed.
This was Amazon in the USA. Amazon in other countries may be doing >>something different, who can say?
Thank you!
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