A dog can understand 7 words. How many barks does a human understand?
I'll bet it's less than 7.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/7-words-that-dogs-can-understand-and-4-that-no-dog-can/ss-AA1zZ4MU?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=1125b1e87465429bb028d120b0cb2b57&ei=42
A dog can understand 7 words.
How many barks does a human understand?
On Sun, 02 Mar 2025 13:16:37 -0500, Judith Latham
<judithlatham@gmx.com> wrote:
A dog can understand 7 words. How many barks does a human understand?
I'll bet it's less than 7.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/7-words-that-dogs-can-understand-and-4-that-no-dog-can/ss-AA1zZ4MU?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=1125b1e87465429bb028d120b0cb2b57&ei=42
Could you tell us what the words were?
When I tried to go to that site it changed the URL to
https://www.msn.com/en-za
and showed a totally blank screen.
On Sun, 02 Mar 2025 13:16:37 -0500, Judith Latham
<judithlatham@gmx.com> wrote:
A dog can understand 7 words. How many barks does a human understand?
I'll bet it's less than 7.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/7-words-that-dogs-can-understand-and-4-that-no-dog-can/ss-AA1zZ4MU?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=1125b1e87465429bb028d120b0cb2b57&ei=42
Could you tell us what the words were?
When I tried to go to that site it changed the URL to
https://www.msn.com/en-za
and showed a totally blank screen.
In article <ighasjpfkvqc8cki5ua5s9dg5fq59e7v4n@4ax.com>, >hayesstw@telkomsa.net says...
On Sun, 02 Mar 2025 13:16:37 -0500, Judith Latham
<judithlatham@gmx.com> wrote:
A dog can understand 7 words. How many barks does a human understand?
I'll bet it's less than 7.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/7-words-that-dogs-can-understand-and-4-that-no-dog-can/ss-AA1zZ4MU?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=1125b1e87465429bb028d120b0cb2b57&ei=42
Could you tell us what the words were?
Name sit stay no walk treat come
On 3/3/2025 6:14 AM, Janet wrote:
In article <ighasjpfkvqc8cki5ua5s9dg5fq59e7v4n@4ax.com>,
hayesstw@telkomsa.net says...
On Sun, 02 Mar 2025 13:16:37 -0500, Judith Latham
<judithlatham@gmx.com> wrote:
A dog can understand 7 words. How many barks does a human understand?
I'll bet it's less than 7.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/7-words-that-dogs-can-understand-and-4-that-no-dog-can/ss-AA1zZ4MU?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=1125b1e87465429bb028d120b0cb2b57&ei=42
Could you tell us what the words were?
Name sit stay no walk treat come
  Janet.
When I tried to go to that site it changed the URL to
https://www.msn.com/en-za
and showed a totally blank screen.
Any working dog can understand a lot more then seven.
It appears that OP linked an article from their browser
splash page, which carries a vast number of clickbait
articles republished by MSN.
MSN annoyingly doesn't make it easy to find the original,
but here you go:
https://www.catsanddogs.today/2025/02/28/7-words-that-dogs-can-understand-and-4-that-no-dog-can/
which seems to be simply pages of pet--related listicles.
Very low-effort, and I expect poorly researched.
On 2025-03-03 09:47, Cryptoengineer wrote:
On 3/3/2025 6:14 AM, Janet wrote:
In article <ighasjpfkvqc8cki5ua5s9dg5fq59e7v4n@4ax.com>,
hayesstw@telkomsa.net says...
On Sun, 02 Mar 2025 13:16:37 -0500, Judith Latham
<judithlatham@gmx.com> wrote:
A dog can understand 7 words. How many barks does a human understand? >>>>> I'll bet it's less than 7.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/7-words-that-
dogs-can-understand-and-4-that-no-dog-can/ss-AA1zZ4MU?
ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=1125b1e87465429bb028d120b0cb2b57&ei=42
Could you tell us what the words were?
Name sit stay no walk treat come
  Janet.
When I tried to go to that site it changed the URL to
https://www.msn.com/en-za
and showed a totally blank screen.
Any working dog can understand a lot more then seven.
It appears that OP linked an article from their browser
splash page, which carries a vast number of clickbait
articles republished by MSN.
MSN annoyingly doesn't make it easy to find the original,
but here you go:
https://www.catsanddogs.today/2025/02/28/7-words-that-dogs-can-
understand-and-4-that-no-dog-can/
which seems to be simply pages of pet--related listicles.
Very low-effort, and I expect poorly researched.
The definitive difference between cats and dogs.
https://imgflip.com/i/2z78a4
Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
In article <ighasjpfkvqc8cki5ua5s9dg5fq59e7v4n@4ax.com>,
hayesstw@telkomsa.net says...
Could you tell us what the words were?
Name sit stay no walk treat come
Thanks.
I agree with what you said elsethread -- that some dogs understand far
more. Perhaps those words are based on dogs of average IQ, and dogs of
above average IQ understand more.
Name sit stay no walk treat come
Thanks.
I agree with what you said elsethread -- that some dogs understand far
more. Perhaps those words are based on dogs of average IQ, and dogs of
above average IQ understand more.
On Mon, 3 Mar 2025 11:14:13 -0000, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
In article <ighasjpfkvqc8cki5ua5s9dg5fq59e7v4n@4ax.com>, >hayesstw@telkomsa.net says...
On Sun, 02 Mar 2025 13:16:37 -0500, Judith Latham
<judithlatham@gmx.com> wrote:
A dog can understand 7 words. How many barks does a human understand?
I'll bet it's less than 7.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/7-words-that-dogs-can-understand-and-4-that-no-dog-can/ss-AA1zZ4MU?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=1125b1e87465429bb028d120b0cb2b57&ei=42
Could you tell us what the words were?
Name sit stay no walk treat come
Thanks.
I agree with what you said elsethread -- that some dogs understand far
more. Perhaps those words are based on dogs of average IQ, and dogs of
above average IQ understand more.
On Mon, 3 Mar 2025 11:14:13 -0000, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
In article <ighasjpfkvqc8cki5ua5s9dg5fq59e7v4n@4ax.com>,
hayesstw@telkomsa.net says...
On Sun, 02 Mar 2025 13:16:37 -0500, Judith Latham
<judithlatham@gmx.com> wrote:
A dog can understand 7 words. How many barks does a human understand?
I'll bet it's less than 7.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/7-words-that-dogs-can-understand-and-4-that-no-dog-can/ss-AA1zZ4MU?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=1125b1e87465429bb028d120b0cb2b57&ei=42
Could you tell us what the words were?
Name sit stay no walk treat come
Thanks.
I agree with what you said elsethread -- that some dogs understand far
more. Perhaps those words are based on dogs of average IQ, and dogs of
above average IQ understand more.
A dog can understand 7 words. How many barks does a human understand?
I'll bet it's less than 7.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/7-words-that-dogs-can-understand-and-4-that-no-dog-can/ss-AA1zZ4MU?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=1125b1e87465429bb028d120b0cb2b57&ei=42
On Mon, 3 Mar 2025 11:14:13 -0000, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
In article <ighasjpfkvqc8cki5ua5s9dg5fq59e7v4n@4ax.com>, >>hayesstw@telkomsa.net says...
On Sun, 02 Mar 2025 13:16:37 -0500, Judith Latham
<judithlatham@gmx.com> wrote:
A dog can understand 7 words. How many barks does a human understand?
I'll bet it's less than 7.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/7-words-that-dogs-can-understand-and-4-that-no-dog-can/ss-AA1zZ4MU?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=1125b1e87465429bb028d120b0cb2b57&ei=42
Could you tell us what the words were?
Name sit stay no walk treat come
Thanks.
I agree with what you said elsethread -- that some dogs understand far
more. Perhaps those words are based on dogs of average IQ, and dogs of
above average IQ understand more.
I agree with what you said elsethread -- that some dogs understand far >>more. Perhaps those words are based on dogs of average IQ, and dogs of >>above average IQ understand more.
The dogs don't understand the words. They associate the words
with particular actions or behavior.
Scott Lurndal wrote:
I agree with what you said elsethread -- that some dogs understand far >>>more. Perhaps those words are based on dogs of average IQ, and dogs of >>>above average IQ understand more.
The dogs don't understand the words. They associate the words
with particular actions or behavior.
How does that explain a dog picking a new, unknown toy after hearing a
new, unknown name?
The dogs don't understand the words. They associate the words
with particular actions or behavior.
Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> writes:
I agree with what you said elsethread -- that some dogs understand far >>more. Perhaps those words are based on dogs of average IQ, and dogs of >>above average IQ understand more.
The dogs don't understand the words. They associate the words
with particular actions or behavior.
Any working dog can understand a lot more then seven.
On Tue, 04 Mar 2025 15:47:22 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:
Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> writes:
I agree with what you said elsethread -- that some dogs understand far >>>more. Perhaps those words are based on dogs of average IQ, and dogs of >>>above average IQ understand more.
The dogs don't understand the words. They associate the words
with particular actions or behavior.
Isn't that what understanding is?
If I say "gijima", do you associate it with any behaviour?
If you don't, you don't understand the word.
If I say "run", do you associate it with any behaviour?
After growing tired of hearing my brothers claim that he actually /understood/ the words, I did the same thing, only I said "Georgie
wanna be cooked and eaten?". He responded the same way. IOW, if he
understood what we were saying he was as happy at being cooked and
eaten as he was at going for a walk. (Of course I then took him for
his walk, it would have been cruel not to.)
On Wed, 05 Mar 2025 07:00:36 +0200, Steve Hayes
<hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
On Tue, 04 Mar 2025 15:47:22 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) >>wrote:
Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> writes:
I agree with what you said elsethread -- that some dogs understand far >>>>more. Perhaps those words are based on dogs of average IQ, and dogs of >>>>above average IQ understand more.
The dogs don't understand the words. They associate the words
with particular actions or behavior.
Isn't that what understanding is?
If I say "gijima", do you associate it with any behaviour?
If you don't, you don't understand the word.
If I say "run", do you associate it with any behaviour?
Let me relate a short, but true, story that may help with this:
So, that's the difference. And, no, dogs don't understand the words.
George was responding to the sight of the leash and the tone of my
voice.
A dog can understand 7 words. How many barks does a human understand?
I'll bet it's less than 7. [...]
In article<ighasjpfkvqc8cki5ua5s9dg5fq59e7v4n@4ax.com>,
hayesstw@telkomsa.net says...
On Sun, 02 Mar 2025 13:16:37 -0500, Judith Latham
<judithlatham@gmx.com> wrote:
A dog can understand 7 words. How many barks does a human understand? I'll bet it's less than 7.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/7-words-that-dogs-can-un
derstand-and-4-that-no-dog-can/ss-AA1zZ4MU?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=1125b
1e87465429bb028d120b0cb2b57&ei=42
Could you tell us what the words were?
Name sit stay no walk treat come
Janet.
When I tried to go to that site it changed the URL to
https://www.msn.com/en-za
and showed a totally blank screen.
On 3/3/2025 2:52 AM, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
Judith Latham wrote:That's Chaser, a Border Collie who's memorized the names of over
A dog can understand 7 words.
There is a dog that understands about thousand different names for toy
puppets of all kinds. Ask for e.g. "Mary" and the dog will pick the
right puppet from a pile. Add a new puppet to the pile and ask for a
hitherto unknown name, and the dog will fetch the new puppet.
How many barks does a human understand?
Those who have a dog will understand several but I have no idea how
many.
1000 stuffed toys, and can pick them out of a heap correctly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omaHv5sxiFI
Note that he was recognizing single words, not grammar.
Le 02/03/2025 à 18:16, Judith Latham a écrit :
A dog can understand 7 words. How many barks does a human understand?
I'll bet it's less than 7. [...]
It all depends on the meaning of 'to understand'. Words are not simple
things to us. They have denotations and connotations, may conjure up >memories, chunks of knowledge and history (moon, Nazi, empire,
slavery...). They have spellings and pronunciations, declensions and >conjugations, may belong to certain registers and dialects.... Humans
know this. We use our languages with a wealth of understanding.
Dogs don't. They simply don't have the mental apparatus for it. When
they recognise and respond to 'sit', 'fetch', or 'wait', it's more like
a human responding to a kettle clicking off when it's finished boiling.
What's really astonishing is that we do have the apparatus. Humans are >extraordinary beings, the product of long and tortuous evolution that
may have few parallels in in the Universe. I find this a sobering
thought.
On Thu, 6 Mar 2025, at 06:46:28, Hibou posted:
Le 02/03/2025 à 18:16, Judith Latham a écrit :When we talk of the numbers of /anything/ in the universe, I start by >counting the number of galaxies we have seen, and start multiplying from >there.
A dog can understand 7 words. How many barks does a human understand?
I'll bet it's less than 7. [...]
It all depends on the meaning of 'to understand'. Words are not simple >>things to us. They have denotations and connotations, may conjure up >>memories, chunks of knowledge and history (moon, Nazi, empire,
slavery...). They have spellings and pronunciations, declensions and >>conjugations, may belong to certain registers and dialects.... Humans
know this. We use our languages with a wealth of understanding.
Dogs don't. They simply don't have the mental apparatus for it. When
they recognise and respond to 'sit', 'fetch', or 'wait', it's more like
a human responding to a kettle clicking off when it's finished boiling.
What's really astonishing is that we do have the apparatus. Humans are >>extraordinary beings, the product of long and tortuous evolution that
may have few parallels in in the Universe. I find this a sobering
thought.
But as for dogs, and being a chemist by education, I was very impressed
by Six-Thirty. Over a thousand English words, we were told. And he was
said to have been based on a real one. (Lessons in Chemistry, q.v.)
On 3/11/2025 1:03 PM, Rich Ulrich wrote:
On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 00:03:06 +0000, Paul Wolff
<bounceme@thiswontwork.wolff.co.uk> wrote:
On Thu, 6 Mar 2025, at 06:46:28, Hibou posted:
Le 02/03/2025 à 18:16, Judith Latham a écrit :When we talk of the numbers of /anything/ in the universe, I start by
A dog can understand 7 words. How many barks does a human understand? >>>>> I'll bet it's less than 7. [...]
It all depends on the meaning of 'to understand'. Words are not simple >>>> things to us. They have denotations and connotations, may conjure up
memories, chunks of knowledge and history (moon, Nazi, empire,
slavery...). They have spellings and pronunciations, declensions and
conjugations, may belong to certain registers and dialects.... Humans
know this. We use our languages with a wealth of understanding.
Dogs don't. They simply don't have the mental apparatus for it. When
they recognise and respond to 'sit', 'fetch', or 'wait', it's more like >>>> a human responding to a kettle clicking off when it's finished boiling. >>>>
What's really astonishing is that we do have the apparatus. Humans are >>>> extraordinary beings, the product of long and tortuous evolution that
may have few parallels in in the Universe. I find this a sobering
thought.
counting the number of galaxies we have seen, and start multiplying from >>> there.
But as for dogs, and being a chemist by education, I was very impressed
by Six-Thirty. Over a thousand English words, we were told. And he was
said to have been based on a real one. (Lessons in Chemistry, q.v.)
Did anyone ever rule out the Clever Hans Effect? cues from the owner?
A horse doing arithmetic was impressive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip_uVTWfXyI
Chaser knows the names of over 1000 toys.
...and yes, this has been shown not to be a
'Clever Hans' effect, with the dog going
out of sight of its owner to pick toys.
pt
On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 15:00:04 -0400, Cryptoengineer
<petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip_uVTWfXyI
Chaser knows the names of over 1000 toys.
...and yes, this has been shown not to be a
'Clever Hans' effect, with the dog going
out of sight of its owner to pick toys.
pt
Thanks!
Yes. Thank you. That was fascinating. It was also amazing that people
would go to so much effort and spend so much time to train such a
brilliant dog to be able to do such a bizarre act of no practical use.
On Thu, 6 Mar 2025, at 06:46:28, Hibou posted:
What's really astonishing is that we do have the apparatus. Humans are
extraordinary beings, the product of long and tortuous evolution that
may have few parallels in in the Universe. I find this a sobering
thought.
When we talk of the numbers of /anything/ in the universe, I start by counting the number of galaxies we have seen, and start multiplying from there.
But as for dogs, and being a chemist by education, I was very impressed
by Six-Thirty. Over a thousand English words, we were told. And he was
said to have been based on a real one. (Lessons in Chemistry, q.v.)
Le 11/03/2025 à 00:03, Paul Wolff a écrit :
On Thu, 6 Mar 2025, at 06:46:28, Hibou posted:
What's really astonishing is that we do have the apparatus.
Humans are extraordinary beings, the product of long and
tortuous evolution that may have few parallels in in the
Universe. I find this a sobering thought.
When we talk of the numbers of /anything/ in the universe, I
start by counting the number of galaxies we have seen, and
start multiplying from there.
But as for dogs, and being a chemist by education, I was very
impressed by Six-Thirty. Over a thousand English words, we were
told. And he was said to have been based on a real one.
(Lessons in Chemistry, q.v.)
Chaser, presumably:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaser_(dog)>
<https://www.chaserthebc.com/>
Is there a reliable source for a dog knowing more than a thousand
words? Google seems to find only gushing, uncritical enthusiasm -
'I met the world's smartest dog' etc. (a sobriquet redolent of
promotional puff).
Le 11/03/2025 à 00:03, Paul Wolff a écrit :
On Thu, 6 Mar 2025, at 06:46:28, Hibou posted:
What's really astonishing is that we do have the apparatus. Humans are
extraordinary beings, the product of long and tortuous evolution that
may have few parallels in in the Universe. I find this a sobering
thought.
When we talk of the numbers of /anything/ in the universe, I start by counting the number of galaxies we have seen, and start multiplying from there.
But as for dogs, and being a chemist by education, I was very impressed
by Six-Thirty. Over a thousand English words, we were told. And he was said to have been based on a real one. (Lessons in Chemistry, q.v.)
Chaser, presumably:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaser_(dog)>
<https://www.chaserthebc.com/>
Is there a reliable source for a dog knowing more than a thousand words? Google seems to find only gushing, uncritical enthusiasm - 'I met the world's smartest dog' etc. (a sobriquet redolent of promotional puff).
On 12/03/25 10:24, Rich Ulrich wrote:
On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 15:00:04 -0400, Cryptoengineer
<petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
snip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip_uVTWfXyI
Chaser knows the names of over 1000 toys.
...and yes, this has been shown not to be a
'Clever Hans' effect, with the dog going
out of sight of its owner to pick toys.
pt
Thanks!
Yes. Thank you. That was fascinating. It was also amazing that people
would go to so much effort and spend so much time to train such a
brilliant dog to be able to do such a bizarre act of no practical use.
In article <vqr62g$2f1nb$1@dont-email.me>,
noone@nowhere.com says...
On 12/03/25 10:24, Rich Ulrich wrote:
On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 15:00:04 -0400, Cryptoengineer
<petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
snip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip_uVTWfXyI
Chaser knows the names of over 1000 toys.
...and yes, this has been shown not to be a
'Clever Hans' effect, with the dog going
out of sight of its owner to pick toys.
pt
Thanks!
Yes. Thank you. That was fascinating. It was also amazing that people
would go to so much effort and spend so much time to train such a
brilliant dog to be able to do such a bizarre act of no practical use.
If you've ever owned a collie, you'll know it was
probably the collie's own idea.
They are a working breed; and if a collie isn't given a
proper job to occupy its brain and energy, they'll often
invent their own career/ hobbies /entertainment.
Le 11/03/2025 à 00:03, Paul Wolff a écrit :
On Thu, 6 Mar 2025, at 06:46:28, Hibou posted:
What's really astonishing is that we do have the apparatus. Humans are
extraordinary beings, the product of long and tortuous evolution that
may have few parallels in in the Universe. I find this a sobering
thought.
When we talk of the numbers of /anything/ in the universe, I start by counting the number of galaxies we have seen, and start multiplying from there.
But as for dogs, and being a chemist by education, I was very impressed
by Six-Thirty. Over a thousand English words, we were told. And he was
said to have been based on a real one. (Lessons in Chemistry, q.v.)
Chaser, presumably:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaser_(dog)>
<https://www.chaserthebc.com/>
Is there a reliable source for a dog knowing more than a thousand words? Google seems to find only gushing, uncritical enthusiasm - 'I met the
world's smartest dog' etc. (a sobriquet redolent of promotional puff).
In article <vqr62g$2f1nb$1@dont-email.me>, noone@nowhere.com says...
Yes. Thank you. That was fascinating. It was also amazing that
people would go to so much effort and spend so much time to train
such a brilliant dog to be able to do such a bizarre act of no
practical use.
If you've ever owned a collie, you'll know it was probably the
collie's own idea.
They are a working breed; and if a collie isn't given a proper job to
occupy its brain and energy, they'll often invent their own career/
hobbies /entertainment.
In article <vqr62g$2f1nb$1@dont-email.me>,
noone@nowhere.com says...
Yes. Thank you. That was fascinating. It was also amazing that people
would go to so much effort and spend so much time to train such a
brilliant dog to be able to do such a bizarre act of no practical use.
If you've ever owned a collie, you'll know it was
probably the collie's own idea.
They are a working breed; and if a collie isn't given a
proper job to occupy its brain and energy, they'll often
invent their own career/ hobbies /entertainment.
On 13/03/25 04:10, Janet wrote:
In article <vqr62g$2f1nb$1@dont-email.me>, noone@nowhere.com says...
Yes. Thank you. That was fascinating. It was also amazing that
people would go to so much effort and spend so much time to train
such a brilliant dog to be able to do such a bizarre act of no
practical use.
If you've ever owned a collie, you'll know it was probably the
collie's own idea.
They are a working breed; and if a collie isn't given a proper job to occupy its brain and energy, they'll often invent their own career/
hobbies /entertainment.
Australian TV has a series "Muster Dogs", which shows dogs being trained
to control sheep, all the way from puppyhood to competitive mustering. I don't watch it myself, but apparently it gets a large audience.
Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> wrote:
On 13/03/25 04:10, Janet wrote:
In article <vqr62g$2f1nb$1@dont-email.me>, noone@nowhere.com says...
Yes. Thank you. That was fascinating. It was also amazing that
people would go to so much effort and spend so much time to train
such a brilliant dog to be able to do such a bizarre act of no
practical use.
If you've ever owned a collie, you'll know it was probably the
collie's own idea.
They are a working breed; and if a collie isn't given a proper job to occupy its brain and energy, they'll often invent their own career/ hobbies /entertainment.
Australian TV has a series "Muster Dogs", which shows dogs being trained
to control sheep, all the way from puppyhood to competitive mustering. I don't watch it myself, but apparently it gets a large audience.
In Britain they have international competitions in it,
with England, Wales, and Scotland participating,
Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> wrote:
On 13/03/25 04:10, Janet wrote:
In article <vqr62g$2f1nb$1@dont-email.me>, noone@nowhere.com says...
Yes. Thank you. That was fascinating. It was also amazing that
people would go to so much effort and spend so much time to train
such a brilliant dog to be able to do such a bizarre act of no
practical use.
If you've ever owned a collie, you'll know it was probably the
collie's own idea.
They are a working breed; and if a collie isn't given a proper job to occupy its brain and energy, they'll often invent their own career/ hobbies /entertainment.
Australian TV has a series "Muster Dogs", which shows dogs being trained
to control sheep, all the way from puppyhood to competitive mustering. I don't watch it myself, but apparently it gets a large audience.
De Australian Shepherd is not unknown in these parts.
There is a small owners club, and there are competitions.
Despite the name it is an American breed of dog,
crossing (in the meantime) native American dogs
with more recent European imports.
Some of them got exported to Australia.
Quite unfairly so, they hadn't been found guilty of anything,
Jan
Australian TV has a series "Muster Dogs", which shows dogs being trained
to control sheep, all the way from puppyhood to competitive mustering. I don't watch it myself, but apparently it gets a large audience.
On 13/03/25 04:10, Janet wrote:
In article <vqr62g$2f1nb$1@dont-email.me>, noone@nowhere.com says...
Yes. Thank you. That was fascinating. It was also amazing that
people would go to so much effort and spend so much time to train
such a brilliant dog to be able to do such a bizarre act of no
practical use.
If you've ever owned a collie, you'll know it was probably the
collie's own idea.
They are a working breed; and if a collie isn't given a proper job to
occupy its brain and energy, they'll often invent their own career/
hobbies /entertainment.
Australian TV has a series "Muster Dogs", which shows dogs being trained
to control sheep, all the way from puppyhood to competitive mustering. I don't watch it myself, but apparently it gets a large audience.
Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> wrote:
On 13/03/25 04:10, Janet wrote:
In article <vqr62g$2f1nb$1@dont-email.me>, noone@nowhere.com says...
Yes. Thank you. That was fascinating. It was also amazing that
people would go to so much effort and spend so much time to train
such a brilliant dog to be able to do such a bizarre act of no
practical use.
If you've ever owned a collie, you'll know it was probably the
collie's own idea.
They are a working breed; and if a collie isn't given a proper job to occupy its brain and energy, they'll often invent their own career/ hobbies /entertainment.
Australian TV has a series "Muster Dogs", which shows dogs being trained
to control sheep, all the way from puppyhood to competitive mustering. I don't watch it myself, but apparently it gets a large audience.
De Australian Shepherd is not unknown in these parts.
There is a small owners club, and there are competitions.
Despite the name it is an American breed of dog,
crossing (in the meantime) native American dogs
with more recent European imports.
Some of them got exported to Australia.
Quite unfairly so, they hadn't been found guilty of anything,
In article <67d29292$0$5202$426a34cc@news.free.fr>,
nospam@de-ster.demon.nl says...
Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> wrote:
On 13/03/25 04:10, Janet wrote:
In article <vqr62g$2f1nb$1@dont-email.me>, noone@nowhere.com says...
Yes. Thank you. That was fascinating. It was also amazing that
people would go to so much effort and spend so much time to train
such a brilliant dog to be able to do such a bizarre act of no
practical use.
If you've ever owned a collie, you'll know it was probably the
collie's own idea.
They are a working breed; and if a collie isn't given a proper job to occupy its brain and energy, they'll often invent their own career/ hobbies /entertainment.
Australian TV has a series "Muster Dogs", which shows dogs being trained to control sheep, all the way from puppyhood to competitive mustering. I don't watch it myself, but apparently it gets a large audience.
De Australian Shepherd is not unknown in these parts.
There is a small owners club, and there are competitions.
Despite the name it is an American breed of dog,
crossing (in the meantime) native American dogs
with more recent European imports.
Some of them got exported to Australia.
Quite unfairly so, they hadn't been found guilty of anything,
In Australia, they use real dogs to herd sheep
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Kelpie
Scotland's kelpies are much bigger and tougher.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kelpies
In Australia, they use real dogs to herd sheep
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Kelpie
Scotland's kelpies are much bigger and tougher.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kelpies
On 14/03/25 00:59, Janet wrote:
In Australia, they use real dogs to herd sheep
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Kelpie
In the TV show I mentioned, the teasers ask whether the collies or the kelpies will win in the Dog Trials. I guess I'll hear the answer
eventually.
The Dog in Footrot Flats, a popular NZ comic book series, is a collie.
Scotland's kelpies are much bigger and tougher.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kelpies
I do admire creative ideas in sculpture. Australia has, unfortunately,
gone overboard in the matter of giant animals. I think it started with
the Big Merino, a giant statue of a sheep just outside Goulburn in NSW,
but by now lots of towns have introduced their Big Things. In Hexham,
just near Newcastle, there's a horrible-looking Big Mosquito, in
recognition of the denizens of the Hexham Swamp[1].
[1] I think the politically correct term now is the Hexham Wetlands, but everyone I know calls it the Hexham Swamp.
On 3/13/2025 5:14 AM, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 09:08:51 +0100
nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) wrote:
Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> wrote:In the 70's? the TV show "One man and his dog" was a big thing.
On 13/03/25 04:10, Janet wrote:
In article <vqr62g$2f1nb$1@dont-email.me>, noone@nowhere.com says...
Yes. Thank you. That was fascinating. It was also amazing that
people would go to so much effort and spend so much time to train
such a brilliant dog to be able to do such a bizarre act of no
practical use.
If you've ever owned a collie, you'll know it was probably the
collie's own idea.
They are a working breed; and if a collie isn't given a proper job to >>>>> occupy its brain and energy, they'll often invent their own career/
hobbies /entertainment.
Australian TV has a series "Muster Dogs", which shows dogs being
trained
to control sheep, all the way from puppyhood to competitive
mustering. I
don't watch it myself, but apparently it gets a large audience.
In Britain they have international competitions in it,
with England, Wales, and Scotland participating,
(OK, maybe just amongst the older generation).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Man_and_His_Dog
(Looks like it's sleeping again, get down shep)
Then, there's 'Extreme Shepherding'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGOGOxtN2lM
Lrf, V xabj vgf snxr, ohg vgf sha gbb.
A little crossroads called Tirau (NZ) has a Big Dog (the tourist
information office) and a couple of Big Sheep (a souvenir shop), all
in corrugated iron. There's also a Shepherd, but he's not to scale,
and not in typical NZ costume. (He's in front of a church.)
https://www.dreamstime.com/photos-images/tirau-town.html
but by now lots of towns have introduced their Big Things. In Hexham,
just near Newcastle, there's a horrible-looking Big Mosquito, in
recognition of the denizens of the Hexham Swamp[1].
On 14/03/25 15:28, Ross Clark wrote:
A little crossroads called Tirau (NZ) has a Big Dog (the tourist information office) and a couple of Big Sheep (a souvenir shop), all
in corrugated iron. There's also a Shepherd, but he's not to scale,
and not in typical NZ costume. (He's in front of a church.)
https://www.dreamstime.com/photos-images/tirau-town.html
Nicely done.
When I visited Fiji I noticed that corrugated iron is a highly valued construction material. I guess the native wood is unsuitable for
building, and maybe the clay is not the right sort for bricks.
Importing timber and bricks would be hellishly expensive, I guess.
Anyway, the result is that when any building is demolished, the
corrugated iron is grabbed and immediately reused. But there's not
enough of it, so the country is full of half-finished buildings.
Peter Moylan wrote:
but by now lots of towns have introduced their Big Things. In
Hexham, just near Newcastle, there's a horrible-looking Big
Mosquito, in recognition of the denizens of the Hexham Swamp[1].
"Big Mosquito, Hexham" will find it in Google Maps.
Meanwhile, Google Maps has reminded me that the swamp is officially
called the Hunter Wetlands National Park. It's a largish swamp,
stretching from Hexham to some of the suburbs of Newcastle, and
including much of Kooragang Island, a large island that separates the
Hunter River into two arms.
Newcastle University is adjacent to the swamp, and the engineering
complex is the most adjacent of all. When we first moved to that campus
the Hexham Greys, a large species of mosquito, were a major pest. Some
years later their numbers went down, possibly because of drought. A
dozen or so years ago I had a house only a short block from the swamp. I didn't have a mosquito problem, but I did have to watch out for snakes.
On 3/14/2025 6:05 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> wrote:
On 14/03/25 15:28, Ross Clark wrote:
A little crossroads called Tirau (NZ) has a Big Dog (the tourist
information office) and a couple of Big Sheep (a souvenir shop), all
in corrugated iron. There's also a Shepherd, but he's not to scale,
and not in typical NZ costume. (He's in front of a church.)
https://www.dreamstime.com/photos-images/tirau-town.html
Nicely done.
When I visited Fiji I noticed that corrugated iron is a highly valued
construction material. I guess the native wood is unsuitable for
building, and maybe the clay is not the right sort for bricks.
Guess they don't have any.
You need glaciers for grinding rock to sand and clay.
Plenty of sandy beaches in the tropics, even on volcanic islands.
Erosion continues without glaciers, and coral nibbling fish poop
out plenty of sand, given time.
Identifying a UFO turns it into an FO. After it lands it becomes an O.
Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> wrote:
On 14/03/25 15:28, Ross Clark wrote:
A little crossroads called Tirau (NZ) has a Big Dog (the tourist
information office) and a couple of Big Sheep (a souvenir shop), all
in corrugated iron. There's also a Shepherd, but he's not to scale,
and not in typical NZ costume. (He's in front of a church.)
https://www.dreamstime.com/photos-images/tirau-town.html
Nicely done.
When I visited Fiji I noticed that corrugated iron is a highly valued
construction material. I guess the native wood is unsuitable for
building, and maybe the clay is not the right sort for bricks.
Guess they don't have any.
You need glaciers for grinding rock to sand and clay.
Importing timber and bricks would be hellishly expensive, I guess.
The bricks were already expensive by themselves.
Making them takes a lot of work, and a lot of firewood.
Nevertheless, the Dutch did export bricks.
The trick was to load the bricks as ballast,
and to take in rubble for the return voyage.
The rubble was used as landfill, for enlarging Amsterdam.
Anyway, the result is that when any building is demolished, the
corrugated iron is grabbed and immediately reused. But there's not
enough of it, so the country is full of half-finished buildings.
Which get blown away with the next cyclone,
creating new need,
Jan
Indeed. Clay is just compressed silt from erosion. Glaciation isn't >necessary to produce it, just time and pressure.
lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:
Identifying a UFO turns it into an FO. After it lands it becomes an O.
Yes, that is precisely why it has been abolished, and replaced by a UAP. >Whatever happens, it never becomes more than a phenomenon,
On 14/03/2025 11:05 p.m., J. J. Lodder wrote:
Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> wrote:
On 14/03/25 15:28, Ross Clark wrote:
A little crossroads called Tirau (NZ) has a Big Dog (the tourist
information office) and a couple of Big Sheep (a souvenir shop), all
in corrugated iron. There's also a Shepherd, but he's not to scale,
and not in typical NZ costume. (He's in front of a church.)
https://www.dreamstime.com/photos-images/tirau-town.html
Nicely done.
When I visited Fiji I noticed that corrugated iron is a highly valued
construction material. I guess the native wood is unsuitable for
building, and maybe the clay is not the right sort for bricks.
Guess they don't have any.
You need glaciers for grinding rock to sand and clay.
This can't be right. There is clay suitable for pottery in Fiji and many other Pacific islands where there have never been glaciers.
Importing timber and bricks would be hellishly expensive, I guess.
They've got timber. Wood and leaves were traditional house-building materials, after all.
Corrugated-iron houses are built on a timber frame.
Bricks? Really no point. People who can afford a fancier European-style
house will move up to concrete (with a corrugated-iron roof).
Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote:
Indeed. Clay is just compressed silt from erosion. Glaciation isn't >necessary to produce it, just time and pressure.
Unfortunately when you get clay from volcanic rocks, you wind up with
more rounded and less flat particles, and particles with high melt points.
When white guys first came to Hawaii they saw all of this beautiful red
clay everywhere and set up to make bricks... and couldn't because it's
not that kind of clay.
They wound up doing things like making houses with
blocks of coral, some of which still stand (as does the kawaiahao church which was constructed in that fashion). That's very labor-intensive and
not very sustainable, though. So today most houses you see there are
frame houses made with wood shipped in from the mainland.
--scott
On 3/15/2025 8:21 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote:
Indeed. Clay is just compressed silt from erosion. Glaciation isn't
necessary to produce it, just time and pressure.
Unfortunately when you get clay from volcanic rocks, you wind up with
more rounded and less flat particles, and particles with high melt
points.
When white guys first came to Hawaii they saw all of this beautiful red
clay everywhere and set up to make bricks... and couldn't because it's
not that kind of clay. They wound up doing things like making houses
with
blocks of coral, some of which still stand (as does the kawaiahao church
which was constructed in that fashion). That's very labor-intensive and
not very sustainable, though. So today most houses you see there are
frame houses made with wood shipped in from the mainland.
Interesting. I can see some clays not being suitable for bricks, but
there is a long history of Polynesian pottery, including from volcanic islands such as Fiji and Easter Island.
https://farandawayadventures.com/polynesian-pottery-unearthing-the- artifacts-of-ancient-civilizations/
Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
On 14/03/2025 11:05 p.m., J. J. Lodder wrote:
Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> wrote:
On 14/03/25 15:28, Ross Clark wrote:
A little crossroads called Tirau (NZ) has a Big Dog (the tourist
information office) and a couple of Big Sheep (a souvenir shop), all >>>>> in corrugated iron. There's also a Shepherd, but he's not to scale,
and not in typical NZ costume. (He's in front of a church.)
https://www.dreamstime.com/photos-images/tirau-town.html
Nicely done.
When I visited Fiji I noticed that corrugated iron is a highly valued
construction material. I guess the native wood is unsuitable for
building, and maybe the clay is not the right sort for bricks.
Guess they don't have any.
You need glaciers for grinding rock to sand and clay.
This can't be right. There is clay suitable for pottery in Fiji and many
other Pacific islands where there have never been glaciers.
Mud is probably a more appropriate description.
I doubt the suitability for good bricks and ceramics.
(probably more appropriately called earthenware)"Ceramics", "pottery" and "earthenware" would all be appropriate.
Yes. Your comments suggest you don't know much about this part of the world.Importing timber and bricks would be hellishly expensive, I guess.
They've got timber. Wood and leaves were traditional house-building
materials, after all.
Of a kind. Anything better than palm trees?
AFAIK quality timber needs to be importd.
Corrugated-iron houses are built on a timber frame.
Bricks? Really no point. People who can afford a fancier European-style
house will move up to concrete (with a corrugated-iron roof).
Which must be imported in bulk too.
(and be 'hellishly expensive')
Jan
On 16/03/2025 2:19 a.m., J. J. Lodder wrote:
Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
On 14/03/2025 11:05 p.m., J. J. Lodder wrote:
Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> wrote:
On 14/03/25 15:28, Ross Clark wrote:
A little crossroads called Tirau (NZ) has a Big Dog (the tourist
information office) and a couple of Big Sheep (a souvenir shop), all >>>>> in corrugated iron. There's also a Shepherd, but he's not to scale, >>>>> and not in typical NZ costume. (He's in front of a church.)
https://www.dreamstime.com/photos-images/tirau-town.html
Nicely done.
When I visited Fiji I noticed that corrugated iron is a highly valued >>>> construction material. I guess the native wood is unsuitable for
building, and maybe the clay is not the right sort for bricks.
Guess they don't have any.
You need glaciers for grinding rock to sand and clay.
This can't be right. There is clay suitable for pottery in Fiji and many >> other Pacific islands where there have never been glaciers.
Mud is probably a more appropriate description.
No, it's clay.
I doubt the suitability for good bricks and ceramics.
Fine. It wasn't a question about what you'd consider "good", but
whether your grand generalization about clay was correct.
(probably more appropriately called earthenware)"Ceramics", "pottery" and "earthenware" would all be appropriate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceramic https://teara.govt.nz/en/photograph/1766/lapita-pottery https://collections.qm.qld.gov.au/objects/CH37961/pot
Importing timber and bricks would be hellishly expensive, I guess.
They've got timber. Wood and leaves were traditional house-building
materials, after all.
Of a kind. Anything better than palm trees?Yes. Your comments suggest you don't know much about this part of the world.
AFAIK quality timber needs to be importd.
Corrugated-iron houses are built on a timber frame.
Bricks? Really no point. People who can afford a fancier European-style
house will move up to concrete (with a corrugated-iron roof).
Which must be imported in bulk too.
(and be 'hellishly expensive')
Less expensive than bricks.
Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
Guess they don't have any.
You need glaciers for grinding rock to sand and clay.
This can't be right. There is clay suitable for pottery in Fiji and many >> >> other Pacific islands where there have never been glaciers.
Mud is probably a more appropriate description.
No, it's clay.
I doubt the suitability for good bricks and ceramics.
Fine. It wasn't a question about what you'd consider "good", but
whether your grand generalization about clay was correct.
As for clay, this is what is commonly understood as 'clay' minerals. ><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clay_mineral>
Volcanic rock otoh is something different. ><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcanic_rock>
AFAIK quality timber needs to be importd.
Corrugated-iron houses are built on a timber frame.
Bricks? Really no point. People who can afford a fancier European-style >> >> house will move up to concrete (with a corrugated-iron roof).
Which must be imported in bulk too.
(and be 'hellishly expensive')
Less expensive than bricks.
Certainly. As for quality,
Cpt. Cook already noted the nothing that grows there
can serve as replacement spars.
Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
On 16/03/2025 2:19 a.m., J. J. Lodder wrote:
Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
On 14/03/2025 11:05 p.m., J. J. Lodder wrote:
Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> wrote:
On 14/03/25 15:28, Ross Clark wrote:
A little crossroads called Tirau (NZ) has a Big Dog (the tourist >>>>>>> information office) and a couple of Big Sheep (a souvenir shop), all >>>>>>> in corrugated iron. There's also a Shepherd, but he's not to scale, >>>>>>> and not in typical NZ costume. (He's in front of a church.)
https://www.dreamstime.com/photos-images/tirau-town.html
Nicely done.
When I visited Fiji I noticed that corrugated iron is a highly valued >>>>>> construction material. I guess the native wood is unsuitable for
building, and maybe the clay is not the right sort for bricks.
Guess they don't have any.
You need glaciers for grinding rock to sand and clay.
This can't be right. There is clay suitable for pottery in Fiji and many >>>> other Pacific islands where there have never been glaciers.
Mud is probably a more appropriate description.
No, it's clay.
I doubt the suitability for good bricks and ceramics.
Fine. It wasn't a question about what you'd consider "good", but
whether your grand generalization about clay was correct.
> (probably more appropriately called earthenware)
"Ceramics", "pottery" and "earthenware" would all be appropriate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceramic
https://teara.govt.nz/en/photograph/1766/lapita-pottery
https://collections.qm.qld.gov.au/objects/CH37961/pot
Yes. Your comments suggest you don't know much about this part of the world.Importing timber and bricks would be hellishly expensive, I guess.
They've got timber. Wood and leaves were traditional house-building
materials, after all.
Of a kind. Anything better than palm trees?
Isn't knowing that it is all volcanic in origin enough?
And (sub)tropical.
As for clay, this is what is commonly understood as 'clay' minerals. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clay_mineral>
Volcanic rock otoh is something different. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcanic_rock>
AFAIK quality timber needs to be importd.
Corrugated-iron houses are built on a timber frame.
Bricks? Really no point. People who can afford a fancier European-style >>>> house will move up to concrete (with a corrugated-iron roof).
Which must be imported in bulk too.
(and be 'hellishly expensive')
Less expensive than bricks.
Certainly. As for quality,
Cpt. Cook already noted the nothing that grows there
can serve as replacement spars.
(something Royal Navy captains were always on the lookout for)
They did note that New Zealand was much better,
in that respect,
On 16/03/2025 10:15 p.m., J. J. Lodder wrote:
Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
On 16/03/2025 2:19 a.m., J. J. Lodder wrote:
Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
On 14/03/2025 11:05 p.m., J. J. Lodder wrote:
Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> wrote:
On 14/03/25 15:28, Ross Clark wrote:
A little crossroads called Tirau (NZ) has a Big Dog (the tourist >>>>>>> information office) and a couple of Big Sheep (a souvenir shop), all >>>>>>> in corrugated iron. There's also a Shepherd, but he's not to scale, >>>>>>> and not in typical NZ costume. (He's in front of a church.)
https://www.dreamstime.com/photos-images/tirau-town.html
Nicely done.
When I visited Fiji I noticed that corrugated iron is a highly valued >>>>>> construction material. I guess the native wood is unsuitable for >>>>>> building, and maybe the clay is not the right sort for bricks.
Guess they don't have any.
You need glaciers for grinding rock to sand and clay.
This can't be right. There is clay suitable for pottery in Fiji and many >>>> other Pacific islands where there have never been glaciers.
Mud is probably a more appropriate description.
No, it's clay.
I doubt the suitability for good bricks and ceramics.
Fine. It wasn't a question about what you'd consider "good", but
whether your grand generalization about clay was correct.
> (probably more appropriately called earthenware)
"Ceramics", "pottery" and "earthenware" would all be appropriate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceramic
https://teara.govt.nz/en/photograph/1766/lapita-pottery
https://collections.qm.qld.gov.au/objects/CH37961/pot
Yes. Your comments suggest you don't know much about this part of theThey've got timber. Wood and leaves were traditional house-buildingImporting timber and bricks would be hellishly expensive, I guess. >>>>
materials, after all.
Of a kind. Anything better than palm trees?
world.
Isn't knowing that it is all volcanic in origin enough?
And (sub)tropical.
As for clay, this is what is commonly understood as 'clay' minerals. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clay_mineral>
Volcanic rock otoh is something different. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcanic_rock>
AFAIK quality timber needs to be importd.
Corrugated-iron houses are built on a timber frame.
Bricks? Really no point. People who can afford a fancier European-style >>>> house will move up to concrete (with a corrugated-iron roof).
Which must be imported in bulk too.
(and be 'hellishly expensive')
Less expensive than bricks.
Certainly. As for quality,
Cpt. Cook already noted the nothing that grows there
can serve as replacement spars.
(something Royal Navy captains were always on the lookout for)
They did note that New Zealand was much better,
in that respect,
So young kauri suited Cook better for spars than anything he had seen in
the islands. Meanwhile, the people who lived there seem to have found something from which to make canoes (with masts, outriggers, paddles, etc.).
https://teara.govt.nz/en/artwork/2213/tongiaki-in-tongatapu-tonga
(This one's by a Dutchman, so you can believe it.)
https://teara.govt.nz/en/artwork/2212/canoe-of-otahaite
https://theglobalhistorypodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/13-1769-tupaia-longhouse-and-canoes-in-tahiti-e1621228487342.jpg
https://teara.govt.nz/en/photograph/2209/a-fijian-ndrua
On 13/03/2025 09:45, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
Peter Moylan wrote:
Australian TV has a series "Muster Dogs", which shows dogs being trained >> to control sheep, all the way from puppyhood to competitive mustering. I >> don't watch it myself, but apparently it gets a large audience.
My sister's now deceased border collie would try to control the foam on
the waves when they walked at the beach. She never tried to teach it anything like that, but it's in their genes.
A freind of mine who also had a border collie that he only had given
basic training could just stand surprised and watch the dog rounding up
a flock of sheep which they accidentaly passed while walking.
That could count as sheep worrying. If I was
one of the sheep, it would worry me.
A dog can understand 7 words. How many barks does a human understand?
I'll bet it's less than 7.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/7-words-that-dogs-can-understand-and-4-that-no-dog-can/ss-AA1zZ4MU?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=1125b1e87465429bb028d120b0cb2b57&ei=42
Could you tell us what the words were?
Name sit stay no walk treat come
On 01/06/2025 20:55, The Horny Goat wrote:
On Mon, 3 Mar 2025 11:14:13 -0000, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote:
Could you tell us what the words were?
Name sit stay no walk treat come
Ours understands "let's cross" (at an intersection) or "better go now"
(though he seldom requires encouragement to pee or poop) I've never
liked dogs but 'inherited' my wife's dog when she died 3 years ago and
have found he's learned several phrases from me. My adult daughter
lives with me so he gets walked twice a day - me doing day walks
weekdays and her doing them on weekends, vice versa on weekends when
she's not working.
Television dog trainer Barbara Woodhouse
used code phrases to tell a dog to pee or
poop - is that what you're saying?
Reviewer Clive James reported that she
used "Hurry up" for pooping, and he wondered
what would happen if a passing parent with
a child called out "Hurry up!"
| Sysop: | Keyop |
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| Location: | Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, UK |
| Users: | 546 |
| Nodes: | 16 (2 / 14) |
| Uptime: | 10:49:00 |
| Calls: | 10,389 |
| Calls today: | 4 |
| Files: | 14,061 |
| Messages: | 6,416,855 |
| Posted today: | 1 |
