• OT: ChatGPT fails a calendar computation

    From Charles Packer@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 22 15:27:26 2025
    This is hard to believe. I asked ChatGPT "What is the Gregorian
    date of Orthodox Easter in 2025?" and it replied "...April
    27, 2025. Even though the Orthodox Church calculates Easter
    based on the Julian calendar, the corresponding date in the
    Gregorian calendar (used in most of the world today) is April 27."
    But I asked Google Search the same question and it replied
    "In 2025, Orthodox Easter, also known as Pascha, will be
    celebrated on Sunday, April 20th, according to the Gregorian
    calendar." Everything else returned in the Google search
    confirms that latter answer. It looks like ChatGPT really
    blew this one.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to mailbox@cpacker.org on Sun Mar 23 01:59:11 2025
    In article <pan$59bae$5c77e9f3$f94b8dd6$974d543e@cpacker.org>,
    Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:
    This is hard to believe. I asked ChatGPT "What is the Gregorian
    date of Orthodox Easter in 2025?" and it replied "...April
    27, 2025. Even though the Orthodox Church calculates Easter
    based on the Julian calendar, the corresponding date in the
    Gregorian calendar (used in most of the world today) is April 27."
    But I asked Google Search the same question and it replied
    "In 2025, Orthodox Easter, also known as Pascha, will be
    celebrated on Sunday, April 20th, according to the Gregorian
    calendar." Everything else returned in the Google search
    confirms that latter answer. It looks like ChatGPT really
    blew this one.

    Look like LLM is failing!
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  • From Charles Packer@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Sun Mar 23 07:57:52 2025
    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 01:59:11 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor wrote:

    In article <pan$59bae$5c77e9f3$f94b8dd6$974d543e@cpacker.org>,
    Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:
    This is hard to believe. I asked ChatGPT "What is the Gregorian date of >>Orthodox Easter in 2025?" and it replied "...April 27, 2025. Even though >>the Orthodox Church calculates Easter based on the Julian calendar, the >>corresponding date in the Gregorian calendar (used in most of the world >>today) is April 27."
    But I asked Google Search the same question and it replied "In 2025, >>Orthodox Easter, also known as Pascha, will be celebrated on Sunday,
    April 20th, according to the Gregorian calendar." Everything else
    returned in the Google search confirms that latter answer. It looks like >>ChatGPT really blew this one.

    Look like LLM is failing!

    Further investigation shows that the bot simply can't compute
    the dates in the future. Here is a link to my original
    queries:

    https://chatgpt.com/c/67ded1c2-4198-8013-a16b-d1e82557f868

    Initially I wanted to know how often the two Easters and
    Passover coincide. It volunteered that in 2011 and 2034 they do,
    but didn't mention this year, in which they do coincide.
    So I went on to compare ChatGPT with Google searches, and
    discover that although the years of coincidence
    were correct, the correct Gregorian dates for 2034 are
    April 9 for the Easters and April 3-11 for Passover.

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to rja.carnegie@gmail.com on Thu Mar 27 08:50:16 2025
    On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 11:07:02 +0000, Robert Carnegie
    <rja.carnegie@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 23/03/2025 07:57, Charles Packer wrote:
    On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 01:59:11 -0000 (UTC), The Doctor wrote:

    In article <pan$59bae$5c77e9f3$f94b8dd6$974d543e@cpacker.org>,
    Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:
    This is hard to believe. I asked ChatGPT "What is the Gregorian date of >>>> Orthodox Easter in 2025?" and it replied "...April 27, 2025. Even though >>>> the Orthodox Church calculates Easter based on the Julian calendar, the >>>> corresponding date in the Gregorian calendar (used in most of the world >>>> today) is April 27."
    But I asked Google Search the same question and it replied "In 2025,
    Orthodox Easter, also known as Pascha, will be celebrated on Sunday,
    April 20th, according to the Gregorian calendar." Everything else
    returned in the Google search confirms that latter answer. It looks like >>>> ChatGPT really blew this one.

    Look like LLM is failing!

    Further investigation shows that the bot simply can't compute
    the dates in the future. Here is a link to my original
    queries:

    https://chatgpt.com/c/67ded1c2-4198-8013-a16b-d1e82557f868

    Initially I wanted to know how often the two Easters and
    Passover coincide. It volunteered that in 2011 and 2034 they do,
    but didn't mention this year, in which they do coincide.
    So I went on to compare ChatGPT with Google searches, and
    discover that although the years of coincidence
    were correct, the correct Gregorian dates for 2034 are
    April 9 for the Easters and April 3-11 for Passover.

    Does it do anything but repeat "facts"
    that it has "read"? Answers that it
    was told?

    As I understand it, what it does is decide, for each word it outputs,
    what the next most likely word is, and outputs that. It is possible
    that, as it builds a response, the options narrow down, but I don't
    know that.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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  • From Charles Packer@21:1/5 to Paul S Person on Sun Mar 30 14:02:01 2025
    On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 08:50:16 -0700, Paul S Person wrote:


    Does it do anything but repeat "facts" that it has "read"? Answers that
    it was told?

    As I understand it, what it does is decide, for each word it outputs,
    what the next most likely word is, and outputs that. It is possible
    that, as it builds a response, the options narrow down, but I don't know that.

    Although the chat thought that "this year" was 2024
    (see last question in my dialogue with it): https://chatgpt.com/c/67ded1c2-4198-8013-a16b-d1e82557f868

    it appeared to do a terrific job of writing a physics chapter
    just for me:
    https://chatgpt.com/c/67c8fc3e-caa4-8013-9044-f0efcdee3e34

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