• (ReacTor) Sweet Revenge: Five Works Featuring Vendettas

    From James Nicoll@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 7 16:31:05 2025
    Sweet Revenge: Five Works Featuring Vendettas

    Forgive and forget? Not bloody likely...

    https://reactormag.com/sweet-revenge-five-works-featuring-vendettas/
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  • From Christian Weisgerber@21:1/5 to James Nicoll on Mon Apr 7 21:17:38 2025
    On 2025-04-07, James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:

    Sweet Revenge: Five Works Featuring Vendettas

    Forgive and forget? Not bloody likely...

    https://reactormag.com/sweet-revenge-five-works-featuring-vendettas/

    Jack Vance's _Demon Princes_ novels.

    Douglas Hill's _Last Legionary_ novels, I guess? I don't quite
    remember if Keill Randor is motivated by revenge, or the purity of
    his heart to fight evil, or both.

    Since you're including audiovisual media: The _Conan the Barbarian_
    (1982) movie.

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  • From Ted Nolan @21:1/5 to naddy@mips.inka.de on Tue Apr 8 02:38:58 2025
    In article <slrnvv8g7i.22kq.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de>,
    Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:
    On 2025-04-07, James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:

    Sweet Revenge: Five Works Featuring Vendettas

    Forgive and forget? Not bloody likely...

    https://reactormag.com/sweet-revenge-five-works-featuring-vendettas/

    Jack Vance's _Demon Princes_ novels.

    Douglas Hill's _Last Legionary_ novels, I guess? I don't quite
    remember if Keill Randor is motivated by revenge, or the purity of
    his heart to fight evil, or both.

    Since you're including audiovisual media: The _Conan the Barbarian_
    (1982) movie.

    --
    Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de

    Sherwood Smith Dave Trowbridge's "Exordium", a wonderful series I don't believe I've ever successfully persuaded another soul to read.

    https://www.sherwoodsmith.net/other-things/exordium/

    Exordium
    Background

    On August 13, 1977 Dave Trowbridge and I sat down at his
    cool little carved table, with wine and other substances
    to inspire us, candles to write by, and began the Exordium
    saga. What a long, strange trip it's been!

    In 1980, it was a six hour mini-series that very nearly
    sold to HBO. Our "elevator pitch" for our five-book space
    opera: Exordium is a cross between Star Wars and Dangerous
    Liaisons with a touch of the Three Stooges.


    The Phoenix in Flight newly rewritten edition 2011:

    Revised with added material in this edition. Brandon
    nyr-Arkad, dissolute youngest son of the ruler of the
    Thousand Suns, abandons the life of Service planned for him
    and flees into the lawless Rift. Only slowly does he discover
    that the world he rejected now lies in smoking ruins as the
    ritual vengeance of Jerrode Eusabian against Brandon's
    father, twenty years in preparation, culminates in an
    explosion of interstellar violence. With both his brothers
    dead and his father the Panarch imprisoned, Brandon becomes
    the Panarchy's last hope.
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    What's not in Columbia anymore..

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  • From Titus G@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 8 17:55:04 2025
    On 8/04/25 14:38, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    Sherwood Smith Dave Trowbridge's "Exordium", a wonderful series I don't believe I've ever successfully persuaded another soul to read.

    I read the five Exordian books interspersed with others over July and
    August 2019 after your recommendation and I loved them. Every one four
    solid stars.
    There were many posts at that time and Tony also contributed to the
    threads. I thanked you in August 2019 and I thank you now again.
    I am not contradicting you; my soul has been sold.

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  • From Titus G@21:1/5 to Titus G on Tue Apr 8 18:12:22 2025
    On 8/04/25 17:55, Titus G wrote:
    On 8/04/25 14:38, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    Sherwood Smith Dave Trowbridge's "Exordium", a wonderful series I don't
    believe I've ever successfully persuaded another soul to read.

    I read the five Exordian books interspersed with others over July and
    August 2019 after your recommendation and I loved them. Every one four
    solid stars.

    Oops. Ruler of Naught, Book two, was five stars.

    There were many posts at that time and Tony also contributed to the
    threads. I thanked you in August 2019 and I thank you now again.
    I am not contradicting you; my soul has been sold.

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  • From Stephen Harker@21:1/5 to Titus G on Tue Apr 8 17:19:37 2025
    Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> writes:

    On 8/04/25 17:55, Titus G wrote:
    On 8/04/25 14:38, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    Sherwood Smith Dave Trowbridge's "Exordium", a wonderful series I don't >>> believe I've ever successfully persuaded another soul to read.
    [...]

    There were many posts at that time and Tony also contributed to the
    threads. I thanked you in August 2019 and I thank you now again.
    I am not contradicting you; my soul has been sold.


    _Look to Windward_ and _Surface Detal_, Iain M Banks.
    _The Ginger Star_, The Hounds of Skaith_ and _The Reavers of Skaith_,
    Leigh Brackett
    _The Revel of Rhada_, Robert Gilman
    _Swords and Deviltry_ (in part), Fritz Leiber

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    Stephen Harker sjharker@aussiebroadband.com.au

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  • From Ted Nolan @21:1/5 to noone@nowhere.com on Tue Apr 8 12:10:19 2025
    In article <vt2do4$1iq12$2@dont-email.me>, Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> wrote: >On 8/04/25 14:38, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    Sherwood Smith Dave Trowbridge's "Exordium", a wonderful series I don't
    believe I've ever successfully persuaded another soul to read.

    I read the five Exordian books interspersed with others over July and
    August 2019 after your recommendation and I loved them. Every one four
    solid stars.
    There were many posts at that time and Tony also contributed to the
    threads. I thanked you in August 2019 and I thank you now again.
    I am not contradicting you; my soul has been sold.

    Ah, great! Apparently my short term memory is shot...
    --
    columbiaclosings.com
    What's not in Columbia anymore..

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  • From Don@21:1/5 to James Nicoll on Tue Apr 8 19:14:21 2025
    James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
    Sweet Revenge: Five Works Featuring Vendettas

    The Count of Monte Cristo by Alexandre Dumas (1846)

    Few fables revel in revenge more than Poe's THE CASK OF AMONTILLADO.
    Besides scribing similar stories of revenge, a multi-layered nexus
    exists between Dumas and Poe. It includes: the Franco-friendly Society
    of the Cincinnati, Poe's character Dupin, the Frenchman featured in
    fiction's first detective stories, and a contested letter Dumas wrote
    with Poe as its subject [1].


    Note.

    [1] Edgar Allan Poe: The Lost Soul of America

    The following letter, written by Alexander Dumas to an Italian
    police official, proves not only that Poe visited France, but
    also hints at the nature of Poe’s visit and proves conclusively
    that Poe’s detective stories were, among other things,
    autobiographical in nature:

    It was about the year 1832. One day an American presented
    himself at my house with an introduction from his fellow
    American James Fenimore Cooper. Needless to say I wel-
    comed him with open arms. His name was Edgar Poe.
    From the outset I realized that I had to deal with a remark-
    able man; Two or three remarks which he made upon my
    furniture, the things I had about me, the way my articles of
    everyday use were strewn about the room and on my moral
    and intellectual characteristics impressed me with their
    accuracy and truth.
    On the very first day of our acquaintance I freely pro-
    ferred him my friendship and asked for his. He must cer-
    tainly have entertained for me a sympathy similar to that I
    felt for him, for held out his hand to me and the under-
    standing between us was instantaneous and complete.
    At this time my mother’s ill health ... required
    that she enjoy purer air than that afforded by the more
    central parts of Paris. She was living in the Luxemburg
    district, while I had a little house all to myself in the
    Rue de L’Ouest. I offered to let Poe have two rooms in
    this house for the duration of his stay in Paris.
    Edgar Poe accepted my offer confessing that his
    financial resources amounted to little more than 300
    francs a month accruing to him on a credit from M. Lafite
    ... Only, he made his acceptance conditional on one
    essential stipulation which was that in his mode of life
    under my roof he should be free to do entirely as he
    wished, and to comport himself as if the house were his
    and not mine ... From the very first day of our
    association I realized why he had laid down the
    conditions to which I have referred.
    Poe had one curious idiosyncracy. He liked the
    night better than the day. Indeed, his love of darkness
    amounted to a passion. But the Goddess of Night could
    not always afford him her shade and remain with him
    continually, so he contrived a substitute. As soon as
    day began to break he hermetically sealed up the
    windows in his room and lit a couple of candles.
    In the midst of this pale illumination, he worked or
    read or suffered his thoughts to wander in the
    insubstantial regions of reveries, or else he fell
    asleep not being always able to indulge in waking
    dreams. But as soon as the clock told him darkness had
    come, he would come in for me, and take me out with him
    if I was there or go forth alone if I was not.
    As a general rule I must confess I was ready waiting
    for him, for these nocturnal expeditions in his company
    were a source of veritable pleasure. In these rambles I
    could not help remarking with wonder and admiration
    (though his rich endowment of ideas should have prepared
    me for it) on the extraordinary facility of analysis
    exhibited by my friend. He seemed to delight in giving
    it play and neglected no opportunity to indulge himself
    in that pleasure. He made no secret of the enjoyment he
    derived from it, and would remark with a smile of proud
    satisfaction that for him every man had an open window
    where his heart was. And as a rule he accompanied that
    assertion with an immediate demonstration which having
    me for its object could leave no doubt in my mind
    concerning Edgar’s power of divination.

    (excerpt)

    https://archive.schillerinstitute.com/fidelio_archive/2006/fidv15n01-02-2006SpSu/fidv15n01-02-2006SpSu_059-edgar_allan_poe_the_lost_soul_of.pdf

    Danke,

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  • From Titus G@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 19 18:10:10 2025
    On 9/04/25 00:10, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <vt2do4$1iq12$2@dont-email.me>, Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On 8/04/25 14:38, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    Sherwood Smith Dave Trowbridge's "Exordium", a wonderful series I don't >>> believe I've ever successfully persuaded another soul to read.

    I read the five Exordium books interspersed with others over July and
    August 2019 after your recommendation and I loved them. Every one four
    solid stars.
    There were many posts at that time and Tony also contributed to the
    threads. I thanked you in August 2019 and I thank you now again.
    I am not contradicting you; my soul has been sold.

    Ah, great! Apparently my short term memory is shot...

    I was depressed with the number of books that I have not finished, so
    decided to reread this series and enjoyed them as much as the first time
    except for the final third of the final book, the wrapping up, because I
    had been there, done that, already. But most of the time, I was
    enthralled. The main attractions for me were the poetic writing style
    and the large numbers of important characters of diverse motivations and morals. I would like to say more but need to think a bit first.
    Brilliant.

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