• This one predicted practical telepathy

    From Charles Packer@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 8 07:40:12 2025
    Belated thanks to Ahasuerus for the ISFDB table of works
    tagged telepathy.

    If H G Wells's "The World Set Free" (1914) predicted atomic bombs,
    then "The Cry From the Ether" by Aladra Septama (1929)

    https://archive.org/details/Amazing_Stories_Quarterly_v02n02_1929- Spring_slpn/page/n103/mode/1up
    (or https://tinyurl.com/bp5dwkm4 )

    is my candidate for having predicted sending information to the human
    brain remotely by radio waves if it ever comes to pass. The
    inventor therein thinks through the issues of selectivity and of
    what kinds of content could be meaningfully transmitted.

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to mailbox@cpacker.org on Tue Apr 8 11:09:34 2025
    Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote: >https://archive.org/details/Amazing_Stories_Quarterly_v02n02_1929- >Spring_slpn/page/n103/mode/1up
    (or https://tinyurl.com/bp5dwkm4 )

    is my candidate for having predicted sending information to the human
    brain remotely by radio waves if it ever comes to pass. The
    inventor therein thinks through the issues of selectivity and of
    what kinds of content could be meaningfully transmitted.

    I just read this story and find it foolish. If this were actually possible,
    it would immediately be taken over by advertising people beaming spam thoughts into everyone's head. The author is extremely optimistic about how such a technology would be used.

    -.. .-. .. -. -.- -.-. --- -.-. .- -.-. --- .-.. .-
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From Charles Packer@21:1/5 to Scott Dorsey on Wed Apr 9 13:53:34 2025
    On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 11:09:34 -0400 (EDT), Scott Dorsey wrote:

    Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:
    https://archive.org/details/Amazing_Stories_Quarterly_v02n02_1929- >>Spring_slpn/page/n103/mode/1up (or https://tinyurl.com/bp5dwkm4 )

    is my candidate for having predicted sending information to the human
    brain remotely by radio waves if it ever comes to pass. The inventor >>therein thinks through the issues of selectivity and of what kinds of >>content could be meaningfully transmitted.

    I just read this story and find it foolish. If this were actually
    possible, it would immediately be taken over by advertising people
    beaming spam thoughts into everyone's head. The author is extremely optimistic about how such a technology would be used.

    -.. .-. .. -. -.- -.-. --- -.-. .- -.-. --- .-.. .-
    --scott

    You read the whole thing? I confess I skimmed it looking for the
    "good parts" -- the passages about the telepathy apparatus.
    A story by a Russian came out about the same time
    https://zapatopi.net/blog/? post=201506038860.alexander_belyaevs_the_lord_of_the_world
    (or https://tinyurl.com/bp52jj8p )
    in which the telepathic device did indeed cause mayhem. The
    appearance of these two stories at the same time and their sort
    of mirror image outcomes I think may be significant. Stay tuned.

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to mailbox@cpacker.org on Wed Apr 9 11:06:22 2025
    Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 11:09:34 -0400 (EDT), Scott Dorsey wrote:

    Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote: >>>https://archive.org/details/Amazing_Stories_Quarterly_v02n02_1929- >>>Spring_slpn/page/n103/mode/1up (or https://tinyurl.com/bp5dwkm4 )

    is my candidate for having predicted sending information to the human >>>brain remotely by radio waves if it ever comes to pass. The inventor >>>therein thinks through the issues of selectivity and of what kinds of >>>content could be meaningfully transmitted.

    I just read this story and find it foolish. If this were actually
    possible, it would immediately be taken over by advertising people
    beaming spam thoughts into everyone's head. The author is extremely
    optimistic about how such a technology would be used.

    -.. .-. .. -. -.- -.-. --- -.-. .- -.-. --- .-.. .-

    You read the whole thing? I confess I skimmed it looking for the
    "good parts" -- the passages about the telepathy apparatus.

    I confess that I was bored and waiting for a computer to finish processing.
    It was not exactly fine prose, but it was a step up from Gernsback's.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From Ahasuerus@21:1/5 to Charles Packer on Wed Apr 9 23:47:49 2025
    On 4/9/2025 9:53 AM, Charles Packer wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 11:09:34 -0400 (EDT), Scott Dorsey wrote:

    Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:
    https://archive.org/details/Amazing_Stories_Quarterly_v02n02_1929-
    Spring_slpn/page/n103/mode/1up (or https://tinyurl.com/bp5dwkm4 )

    is my candidate for having predicted sending information to the human
    brain remotely by radio waves if it ever comes to pass. The inventor
    therein thinks through the issues of selectivity and of what kinds of
    content could be meaningfully transmitted.

    I just read this story and find it foolish. If this were actually
    possible, it would immediately be taken over by advertising people
    beaming spam thoughts into everyone's head. The author is extremely
    optimistic about how such a technology would be used.

    You read the whole thing? I confess I skimmed it looking for the
    "good parts" -- the passages about the telepathy apparatus.
    A story by a Russian came out about the same time
    https://zapatopi.net/blog/? post=201506038860.alexander_belyaevs_the_lord_of_the_world
    (or https://tinyurl.com/bp52jj8p )
    in which the telepathic device did indeed cause mayhem. The
    appearance of these two stories at the same time and their sort
    of mirror image outcomes I think may be significant. Stay tuned.

    The "Analysis" section of the linked blog post
    (https://tinyurl.com/bp52jj8p) is rather peculiar:

    The existence of psychotronic mind control has always been an open
    secret in Russian society, going as far back as Rasputin at least.

    Unlike the West, where the aspirational concept of Individualism was,
    and is, used to distract people from their induced conformities, the
    Soviet faction of the New World Order tried a different approach: an
    explicit call for collective thought. As a result they felt less of a
    need than their Western Bloc rivals to suppress paranoid samizdat
    exposing the psychotronic means of collectivism. "Of course, Comrade Paranoidsky, psychotronics exists! Is not glorious that which helps the
    workers unite?"

    Consequently, even as the word "psychotronic" is still rarely mentioned
    in the West outside of paranoid circles, in Russia there are public demonstrations against the technology and officials flagrantly show off mind-control pistols at trade shows. For Russians today, it isn't a
    question of whether psychotronics are real, it's a question of "should
    my apartment be a psychotronic gulag?"

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  • From Charles Packer@21:1/5 to Ahasuerus on Thu Apr 10 07:39:50 2025
    On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 23:47:49 -0400, Ahasuerus wrote:

    On 4/9/2025 9:53 AM, Charles Packer wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 11:09:34 -0400 (EDT), Scott Dorsey wrote:

    Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:
    https://archive.org/details/Amazing_Stories_Quarterly_v02n02_1929-
    Spring_slpn/page/n103/mode/1up (or https://tinyurl.com/bp5dwkm4 )

    is my candidate for having predicted sending information to the human
    brain remotely by radio waves if it ever comes to pass. The inventor
    therein thinks through the issues of selectivity and of what kinds of
    content could be meaningfully transmitted.

    I just read this story and find it foolish. If this were actually
    possible, it would immediately be taken over by advertising people
    beaming spam thoughts into everyone's head. The author is extremely
    optimistic about how such a technology would be used.

    You read the whole thing? I confess I skimmed it looking for the "good
    parts" -- the passages about the telepathy apparatus.
    A story by a Russian came out about the same time
    https://zapatopi.net/blog/?
    post=201506038860.alexander_belyaevs_the_lord_of_the_world (or
    https://tinyurl.com/bp52jj8p )
    in which the telepathic device did indeed cause mayhem. The appearance
    of these two stories at the same time and their sort of mirror image
    outcomes I think may be significant. Stay tuned.

    The "Analysis" section of the linked blog post
    (https://tinyurl.com/bp52jj8p) is rather peculiar:

    The existence of psychotronic mind control has always been an open
    secret in Russian society, going as far back as Rasputin at least.

    Unlike the West, where the aspirational concept of Individualism was,
    and is, used to distract people from their induced conformities, the
    Soviet faction of the New World Order tried a different approach: an
    explicit call for collective thought. As a result they felt less of a
    need than their Western Bloc rivals to suppress paranoid samizdat
    exposing the psychotronic means of collectivism. "Of course, Comrade Paranoidsky, psychotronics exists! Is not glorious that which helps the workers unite?"

    Consequently, even as the word "psychotronic" is still rarely mentioned
    in the West outside of paranoid circles, in Russia there are public demonstrations against the technology and officials flagrantly show off mind-control pistols at trade shows. For Russians today, it isn't a
    question of whether psychotronics are real, it's a question of "should
    my apartment be a psychotronic gulag?"

    I know, I know. I've been browsing this guy's extensive website,
    wary that I'm being taken for a ride.

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  • From Ahasuerus@21:1/5 to Charles Packer on Thu Apr 10 14:45:35 2025
    On 4/10/2025 3:39 AM, Charles Packer wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 23:47:49 -0400, Ahasuerus wrote:

    On 4/9/2025 9:53 AM, Charles Packer wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 11:09:34 -0400 (EDT), Scott Dorsey wrote:

    Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:
    https://archive.org/details/Amazing_Stories_Quarterly_v02n02_1929-
    Spring_slpn/page/n103/mode/1up (or https://tinyurl.com/bp5dwkm4 )

    is my candidate for having predicted sending information to the human >>>>> brain remotely by radio waves if it ever comes to pass. The inventor >>>>> therein thinks through the issues of selectivity and of what kinds of >>>>> content could be meaningfully transmitted.

    I just read this story and find it foolish. If this were actually
    possible, it would immediately be taken over by advertising people
    beaming spam thoughts into everyone's head. The author is extremely
    optimistic about how such a technology would be used.

    You read the whole thing? I confess I skimmed it looking for the "good
    parts" -- the passages about the telepathy apparatus.
    A story by a Russian came out about the same time
    https://zapatopi.net/blog/?
    post=201506038860.alexander_belyaevs_the_lord_of_the_world (or
    https://tinyurl.com/bp52jj8p )
    in which the telepathic device did indeed cause mayhem. The appearance
    of these two stories at the same time and their sort of mirror image
    outcomes I think may be significant. Stay tuned.

    The "Analysis" section of the linked blog post
    (https://tinyurl.com/bp52jj8p) is rather peculiar:

    The existence of psychotronic mind control has always been an open
    secret in Russian society, going as far back as Rasputin at least.

    Unlike the West, where the aspirational concept of Individualism was,
    and is, used to distract people from their induced conformities, the
    Soviet faction of the New World Order tried a different approach: an
    explicit call for collective thought. As a result they felt less of a
    need than their Western Bloc rivals to suppress paranoid samizdat
    exposing the psychotronic means of collectivism. "Of course, Comrade
    Paranoidsky, psychotronics exists! Is not glorious that which helps the
    workers unite?"

    Consequently, even as the word "psychotronic" is still rarely mentioned
    in the West outside of paranoid circles, in Russia there are public
    demonstrations against the technology and officials flagrantly show off
    mind-control pistols at trade shows. For Russians today, it isn't a
    question of whether psychotronics are real, it's a question of "should
    my apartment be a psychotronic gulag?"

    I know, I know. I've been browsing this guy's extensive website,
    wary that I'm being taken for a ride.

    Well, Beliaev's novel does exist -- see https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1623430 , which says "Abridged serialization in the newspaper Gudok in October-November 1926. First
    book publication in 1928." The plot outline at https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Властелин_мира_(роман_Беляева) roughly
    matches the "Synopsis" section of the linked blog post. If your browser
    doesn't support automatic translation, you can confirm it with Google Translate.

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