• (Tears) The Collected Works of Buck Rogers in the 25th Century

    From James Nicoll@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 13 13:05:04 2025
    The Collected Works of Buck Rogers in the 25th Century
    By Philip Francis Nowlan & Dick Calkins, Edited by Robert C. Dille

    A 20th century American wakes in the bewildering 25th century.

    https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/on-my-way-to-mars
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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to Nicoll on Sun Apr 13 09:05:12 2025
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 13:05:04 -0000 (UTC), jdnicoll@panix.com (James
    Nicoll) wrote:


    The Collected Works of Buck Rogers in the 25th Century
    By Philip Francis Nowlan & Dick Calkins, Edited by Robert C. Dille

    A 20th century American wakes in the bewildering 25th century.

    https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/on-my-way-to-mars

    Although the name "Buck Rogers" is known, apparently I never read any
    of the comic strips. So the review was very interesting and
    informative.

    The inserted panels, incidentally, expand when opened on a new tab so
    that the text, while fuzzy, is readable.

    I am sorry to read that this joins the group of books named "The
    Collected Works of" when they are, in fact, only "Some Collected Works
    of". I am familiar with this from reading older authors in Kindle
    omnibus editions. One is tempted to blame Marketing.
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  • From Don@21:1/5 to James Nicoll on Sun Apr 13 15:32:15 2025
    James Nicoll wrote:

    The Collected Works of Buck Rogers in the 25th Century
    By Philip Francis Nowlan & Dick Calkins, Edited by Robert C. Dille

    A 20th century American wakes in the bewildering 25th century.

    https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/on-my-way-to-mars

    In regards to perceived racism, the US elite's racism psyop has been in
    play for centuries.

    Inventing Black and White

    ... The events in Jamestown were alarming to the planter
    elite, who were deeply fearful of the multiracial alliance
    of [indentured servants] and slaves. Word of Bacon’s
    Rebellion spread far and wide, and several more uprisings
    of a similar type followed. In an effort to protect their
    superior status and economic position, the planters shifted
    their strategy for maintaining dominance. They abandoned
    their heavy reliance on indentured servants in favor of the
    importation of more black slaves. ...

    <https://web.archive.org/web/20250330000053/https://www.facinghistory.org/resource-library/inventing-black-white>
    Danke,

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  • From Ted Nolan @21:1/5 to psperson@old.netcom.invalid on Sun Apr 13 17:33:30 2025
    In article <1lnnvjh4rhd3k3nvt40g5cp72jkjrkt553@4ax.com>,
    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 13:05:04 -0000 (UTC), jdnicoll@panix.com (James
    Nicoll) wrote:


    The Collected Works of Buck Rogers in the 25th Century
    By Philip Francis Nowlan & Dick Calkins, Edited by Robert C. Dille

    A 20th century American wakes in the bewildering 25th century.

    https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/on-my-way-to-mars

    Although the name "Buck Rogers" is known, apparently I never read any
    of the comic strips. So the review was very interesting and
    informative.

    The inserted panels, incidentally, expand when opened on a new tab so
    that the text, while fuzzy, is readable.

    I am sorry to read that this joins the group of books named "The
    Collected Works of" when they are, in fact, only "Some Collected Works
    of". I am familiar with this from reading older authors in Kindle
    omnibus editions. One is tempted to blame Marketing.
    --

    As far as I know, there is no project that has ever or is contemplating reprinting the complete run of the BR comic strip as there is for Thimble Theater, Pogo, Dick Tracy, Calvin & Hobbes, Peanuts, & Barnaby for
    example.

    There are various other reprints which hit additional bits & pieces
    including several of the reboots.

    To my recall, the last book reprints of the seminal stories were somewhat bowlderized by Spider Robinson, but the originals are available on
    Project Gutenberg:

    Armageddon -- 2419 A.D. by Philip Francis Nowlan
    https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/32530

    The Airlords of Han by Philip Francis Nowlan
    https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/25438

    The last reboot that I am aware of was in comics by Howard Chaykin
    which cast early 20th Buck as a Wobblie (because Chaykin...) and
    thus very forward thinking about racial equality.
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  • From James Nicoll@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 13 18:49:38 2025
    In article <m62araFl4tbU1@mid.individual.net>,
    Ted Nolan <tednolan> <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <1lnnvjh4rhd3k3nvt40g5cp72jkjrkt553@4ax.com>,
    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 13:05:04 -0000 (UTC), jdnicoll@panix.com (James
    Nicoll) wrote:


    The Collected Works of Buck Rogers in the 25th Century
    By Philip Francis Nowlan & Dick Calkins, Edited by Robert C. Dille

    A 20th century American wakes in the bewildering 25th century.

    https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/on-my-way-to-mars

    Although the name "Buck Rogers" is known, apparently I never read any
    of the comic strips. So the review was very interesting and
    informative.

    The inserted panels, incidentally, expand when opened on a new tab so
    that the text, while fuzzy, is readable.

    I am sorry to read that this joins the group of books named "The
    Collected Works of" when they are, in fact, only "Some Collected Works
    of". I am familiar with this from reading older authors in Kindle
    omnibus editions. One is tempted to blame Marketing.
    --

    As far as I know, there is no project that has ever or is contemplating >reprinting the complete run of the BR comic strip as there is for Thimble >Theater, Pogo, Dick Tracy, Calvin & Hobbes, Peanuts, & Barnaby for
    example.

    There are various other reprints which hit additional bits & pieces
    including several of the reboots.

    To my recall, the last book reprints of the seminal stories were somewhat >bowlderized by Spider Robinson, but the originals are available on
    Project Gutenberg:

    Armageddon -- 2419 A.D. by Philip Francis Nowlan https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/32530

    The Airlords of Han by Philip Francis Nowlan https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/25438

    The last reboot that I am aware of was in comics by Howard Chaykin
    which cast early 20th Buck as a Wobblie (because Chaykin...) and
    thus very forward thinking about racial equality.

    Buck does take the time to explain to his audience that aside from
    the genocidal tendencies stuff, Wilma was very accepting of other races:

    "I never knew her to show to the men or women of any race anything
    but the utmost of sympathetic courtesy and consideration, whether they
    were the noble brown-skinned Caucasians of India, the sturdy Balkanites
    of Southern Europe, or the simple, spiritual Blacks of Africa, today
    one of the leading races of the world, although in the Twentieth Century
    we regarded them as inferior. This charity and gentleness of hers did not
    fail even in our contacts with the non-Han Mongolians of Japan and the
    coast provinces of China."

    That's from Gutenberg.

    However, Wilma's admirable racial tolerance does not extend to the
    Han. To put it very mildly.
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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to James Nicoll on Sun Apr 13 16:14:56 2025
    On 4/13/25 11:49, James Nicoll wrote:
    In article <m62araFl4tbU1@mid.individual.net>,
    Ted Nolan <tednolan> <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <1lnnvjh4rhd3k3nvt40g5cp72jkjrkt553@4ax.com>,
    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 13:05:04 -0000 (UTC), jdnicoll@panix.com (James
    Nicoll) wrote:


    The Collected Works of Buck Rogers in the 25th Century
    By Philip Francis Nowlan & Dick Calkins, Edited by Robert C. Dille

    A 20th century American wakes in the bewildering 25th century.

    https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/on-my-way-to-mars

    Although the name "Buck Rogers" is known, apparently I never read any
    of the comic strips. So the review was very interesting and
    informative.

    The inserted panels, incidentally, expand when opened on a new tab so
    that the text, while fuzzy, is readable.

    I am sorry to read that this joins the group of books named "The
    Collected Works of" when they are, in fact, only "Some Collected Works
    of". I am familiar with this from reading older authors in Kindle
    omnibus editions. One is tempted to blame Marketing.
    --

    As far as I know, there is no project that has ever or is contemplating
    reprinting the complete run of the BR comic strip as there is for Thimble
    Theater, Pogo, Dick Tracy, Calvin & Hobbes, Peanuts, & Barnaby for
    example.

    There are various other reprints which hit additional bits & pieces
    including several of the reboots.

    To my recall, the last book reprints of the seminal stories were somewhat
    bowlderized by Spider Robinson, but the originals are available on
    Project Gutenberg:

    Armageddon -- 2419 A.D. by Philip Francis Nowlan
    https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/32530

    The Airlords of Han by Philip Francis Nowlan
    https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/25438

    The last reboot that I am aware of was in comics by Howard Chaykin
    which cast early 20th Buck as a Wobblie (because Chaykin...) and
    thus very forward thinking about racial equality.

    Buck does take the time to explain to his audience that aside from
    the genocidal tendencies stuff, Wilma was very accepting of other races:

    "I never knew her to show to the men or women of any race anything
    but the utmost of sympathetic courtesy and consideration, whether they
    were the noble brown-skinned Caucasians of India, the sturdy Balkanites
    of Southern Europe, or the simple, spiritual Blacks of Africa, today
    one of the leading races of the world, although in the Twentieth Century
    we regarded them as inferior. This charity and gentleness of hers did not fail even in our contacts with the non-Han Mongolians of Japan and the
    coast provinces of China."

    That's from Gutenberg.

    However, Wilma's admirable racial tolerance does not extend to the
    Han. To put it very mildly.

    Have you heard of the Chinese Menance? Promoted by Hearst in the
    1930s and then the anti-Japanese propaganda of the 1940s.

    I read the comic strips whenever I could find them
    and comic books as well but was in my teens at least before
    I found the foundational story.
    Don't fall asleep in caves or you may end up on
    Mars in an alternative time line or a few or more hundred
    years in a future where you must struggle against
    alien invaders. What a trope it was.

    bliss-back from 12 weeks in hospital recovering
    and rehabing from ankle fusion and now severely
    deconditioned.

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com on Mon Apr 14 08:38:02 2025
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 16:14:56 -0700, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:

    On 4/13/25 11:49, James Nicoll wrote:

    <snippo>

    However, Wilma's admirable racial tolerance does not extend to the
    Han. To put it very mildly.

    Have you heard of the Chinese Menance? Promoted by Hearst in the
    1930s and then the anti-Japanese propaganda of the 1940s.

    I've always heard of it as the "Yellow Peril". But that doesn't mean
    "Chinese Menace" didn't exist.

    I read the comic strips whenever I could find them
    and comic books as well but was in my teens at least before
    I found the foundational story.
    Don't fall asleep in caves or you may end up on
    Mars in an alternative time line or a few or more hundred
    years in a future where you must struggle against
    alien invaders. What a trope it was.

    bliss-back from 12 weeks in hospital recovering
    and rehabing from ankle fusion and now severely
    deconditioned.

    Welcome back!
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    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to Don on Sun Jun 1 00:08:10 2025
    On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 15:32:15 -0000 (UTC), Don <g@crcomp.net> wrote:

    ... The events in Jamestown were alarming to the planter
    elite, who were deeply fearful of the multiracial alliance
    of [indentured servants] and slaves. Word of Bacon’s
    Rebellion spread far and wide, and several more uprisings
    of a similar type followed. In an effort to protect their
    superior status and economic position, the planters shifted
    their strategy for maintaining dominance. They abandoned
    their heavy reliance on indentured servants in favor of the
    importation of more black slaves. ...

    Most indentured servants were only bound for a given time period. My
    first North American ancestors (roughly the 1720s) were indentured for
    5 years to pay off the cost of their passage from Europe. My first
    North American born male ancestor went on to marry the eldest sister
    of the woman who married Nelson Rockefeller's great great grandmother. Unfortunately none of that money rubbed off on us <grin>

    His son went on to invade Canada in 1812 with the NY state militia
    which causes a smile since two of his six children (including my
    father) went on to marry Canadians and to settle in Canada.

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  • From Don@21:1/5 to The Horny Goat on Tue Jun 10 15:23:00 2025
    The Horny Goat wrote:
    Don wrote:

    ... The events in Jamestown were alarming to the planter
    elite, who were deeply fearful of the multiracial alliance
    of [indentured servants] and slaves. Word of Bacon's
    Rebellion spread far and wide, and several more uprisings
    of a similar type followed. In an effort to protect their
    superior status and economic position, the planters shifted
    their strategy for maintaining dominance. They abandoned
    their heavy reliance on indentured servants in favor of the
    importation of more black slaves. ...

    Most indentured servants were only bound for a given time period. My
    first North American ancestors (roughly the 1720s) were indentured for
    5 years to pay off the cost of their passage from Europe. My first
    North American born male ancestor went on to marry the eldest sister
    of the woman who married Nelson Rockefeller's great great grandmother. Unfortunately none of that money rubbed off on us <grin>

    His son went on to invade Canada in 1812 with the NY state militia
    which causes a smile since two of his six children (including my
    father) went on to marry Canadians and to settle in Canada.

    The time term of a bound obligation is marginal to the USA elite's
    invention of "black" and "white" as a legal precedent for today's law.
    "Black" and "white" divide by design.
    Predictably, a teaching moment recently occurred. Ironically
    the headline is correct in the sense of USA elites heading off
    dissent directed at them.

    Workplace Raids in LA? Or a Targeted Attack on Dissent

    It was never about 'removing criminals.' It was always
    about white nationalism. Stephen Miller, the architect
    behind Trump's immigration policies, is a known white
    nationalist. Trump himself has said he believes
    immigrants are 'poisoning the blood of America.' Did
    the administration target LA - a city that opposes
    Trump - with workplace raids to provoke a reaction so
    Trump can use federal power to 'take America back?'

    <https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/workplace-raids-in-la-or-a-targeted-attack-on-dissent/vi-AA1GoodD?ocid=socialshare>

    Presumably, Hispanics are supposed to pass for "black" at this event.
    The psyop only works when USA citizens self-identify as either "black"
    or "white" based upon an idiosyncratic interpretation of ill-defined
    legal labels.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Inventing Black and White

    ... Virginia's wealthy planters were shaken by the fact that a
    rebel militia that united white and black servants and slaves
    had destroyed the colonial capital. Legal scholar Michelle
    Alexander writes:

    The events in Jamestown were alarming to the planter
    elite, who were deeply fearful of the multiracial
    alliance of [indentured servants] and slaves. Word of
    Bacon's Rebellion spread far and wide, and several
    more uprisings of a similar type followed. In an
    effort to protect their superior status and economic
    position, the planters shifted their strategy for
    maintaining dominance. They abandoned their heavy
    reliance on indentured servants in favor of the
    importation of more black slaves.

    After Bacon's Rebellion, Virginia's lawmakers began to
    make legal distinctions between "white" and "black"
    inhabitants. By permanently enslaving Virginians of African
    descent and giving poor white indentured servants and farmers
    some new rights and status, they hoped to separate the two
    groups and make it less likely that they would unite again
    in rebellion. Historian Ira Berlin explains:

    Soon after Bacon's Rebellion they increasingly
    distinguish between people of African descent
    and people of European descent. They enact laws
    which say that people of African descent are
    hereditary slaves. And they increasingly give
    some power to independent white farmers and
    land holders ...

    Now what is interesting about this is that we normally say
    that slavery and freedom are opposite things-that they are
    diametrically opposed. But what we see here in Virginia in
    the late 17th century, around Bacon's Rebellion, is that
    freedom and slavery are created at the same moment. ...

    <https://web.archive.org/web/20250330000053/https://www.facinghistory.org/resource-library/inventing-black-white>

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Danke,

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