• Re: 283 aliens here

    From Sylvia Else@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Thu May 15 16:57:19 2025
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    On 14-May-25 7:38 am, David Dalton wrote:
    I am also hoping they are scanning the Internet for the number 283.


    Why would they be scanning the Internet for the number of aliens you're
    aware of? How would they even know which number to scan for?

    Sylvia

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 15 08:09:53 2025
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    Two Hundred Eighty-Three card-carrying aliens in the State Department!
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to Andrew W on Thu May 15 20:03:46 2025
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    In article <1005tds$3cocb$1@dont-email.me>, Andrew W <space@defense.com> wrote: >Vaxes? How did that become the topic?

    If it's not 36 bits, you're not playing with a full DEC.
    --scott

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  • From Andrew W@21:1/5 to JTEM on Fri May 16 21:36:47 2025
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    "JTEM" wrote in message news:1006jtj$3k5vh$4@dont-email.me...

    On 5/15/25 7:18 PM, Andrew W wrote:
    "JTEM" wrote in message news:1003u8e$2vgag$3@dont-email.me...

    That's called an "Argument from ignorance."

    "We don't know so, they can do it!"

    The top levels of our governments and military do know.

    Thank goodness for your ESP!


    No, years of research.



    Seeing how you can read their minds, why don't you just tell
    us where these aliens are hiding?


    Mainly in mountainous areas.



    The unspoken lines in this story is how long these aliens
    have been here,

    Hundreds of thousands of years.



    and how many people that necessitates being
    in on the secret without it all getting out...


    Only high ranking people in the military and CIA etc. are privy to all the details.



    It's not even good science fiction, really. More like bad
    fan fiction.


    That's how it sounds like to you because you've been conditioned and
    programmed by society.
    Be brave and step away from the mainstream narrative.


    --
    “We own everyone of any significance in the major media.” CIA Director William Colby
    “We’ll know when our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the
    American people believes is false.” CIA Director William Casey

    Definition of an idiot/ignoramus: Someone who gets their information from
    the mainstream media and calls it facts and evidence.

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to f00@0f0.00f on Fri May 16 11:26:13 2025
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    jojo <f00@0f0.00f> wrote:

    i believe i was stating the opposite, that if a technological
    civilization exists which is even 100 years more advanced than
    our current state, we would not be able to even comprehend their
    engineered products.

    Hell, we can't even comprehend our own engineered products half the
    time, and nobody will give you a service manual anymore.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From Scott Lurndal@21:1/5 to Cryptoengineer on Fri May 16 19:01:12 2025
    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> writes:
    On 5/15/2025 8:09 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    Two Hundred Eighty-Three card-carrying aliens in the State Department!


    Have you no decency?

    I think you have misattributed that statement (originating in a
    highy crossposted troll from a bunch of alt.* groups) to Scott.

    {crossposting elided}

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to Scott Lurndal on Fri May 16 18:40:24 2025
    Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote:
    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> writes:
    On 5/15/2025 8:09 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    Two Hundred Eighty-Three card-carrying aliens in the State Department!


    Have you no decency?

    I think you have misattributed that statement (originating in a
    highy crossposted troll from a bunch of alt.* groups) to Scott.

    {crossposting elided}

    No, attribution was good.
    Well, _I_ thought it was funny, anyway. And his reply was perfect.
    --scott
    --
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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to JTEM on Fri May 16 18:12:47 2025
    On 5/13/25 18:55, JTEM wrote:
    On 5/13/25 7:38 PM, David Dalton wrote:
    As I state on the "Waning Clamshell/another reset to pre-judging”
    thread on alt.religion.druid, there are now 283 DNA-based aliens
    in my region, which is basically the Earth Moon system but not
    including deep inside the Earth and the Moon (see that thread
    for an exact description).

    I don't believe that there's any aliens here.

    Oh, aliens have sent tech here, for certain.

    When we search for life on distant worlds what we're actually
    doing is analyzing light.

    Different elements absorb different wavelengths...

    This is how we can be all but certain of life on a world more
    than 100 light years away!

    But, think of this:  We've only been searching for maybe 30 years,
    or a little more.

    That's it.

    In a little more than 30 years we went from finding our very first
    exoplanet to a very STRONG candidate for a life bearing world...

    When did the earth become detectable this way to other worlds?

    BILLIONS of years ago!

    BILLIONS!


    How did they accomplish this before we began broadcasting
    radio and TV?

    So if once AND ONLY ONCE every million years or so some aliens
    detect the earth, notice that we're life bearing and sent a probe
    to give us a look, there's been 2,0000 alien probes sent toards
    us just since The Great Oxidation Event, the planet's first great
    extinction event.

    If it's just ONCE every million years, there's been over 60 since
    the dinosaurs went extinct...

    There's been two to three since the genus Homo arose -- Humans!

    Again, that's if other civilizations go looking, spot us and send
    a probe ONCE every million years...

    We at best have only been around for something under a
    million years.

    This is just a bunch of claptrap, the essense of which
    is that humans are too dumb to create civilizations and build
    what our ancestors managed to do.

    In my very humble opinion.
    bliss

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  • From BCFD 36@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Mon May 19 11:43:03 2025
    On 5/17/25 10:54, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote in
    news:1009sql$o2o$1@panix2.panix.com:

    In article <10091ue$6ems$1@dont-email.me>, Titus G
    <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On 17/05/25 05:41, Bob Casanova wrote:
    snip

    [groups edited]
    [stuff deleted]



    At least they get to watch
    Rocky and Bullwinkle and Dobie Gillis.


    Dobie Gillis, is just awful. But Rocky and Bullwinkle is top notch. And
    I've always had a thing for Natasha.

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    Dave Scruggs
    Senior Software Engineer - Lockheed Martin, et. al (mostly Retired)
    Captain - Boulder Creek Fire (Retired)
    Board of Directors - Boulder Creek Fire Protection District (What was I thinking?)

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to JTEM on Mon May 19 15:04:18 2025
    On 5/19/25 14:45, JTEM wrote:
    On 5/19/25 6:52 AM, Malte Runz wrote:

    There is no "actual evidence". According to you, as per last year or
    so, photos and videos can be faked, people can, and do, lie about
    their experiences, and the deep state keeps all the physical evidence
    hidden from the public. What's left?

    Is there evidence?

    What kind of evidence? Why hide it? Who would have access to it?

    Knowledge?

    NOT looking for definitive answers but starting points.


    Does the list of 283 aliens start with Kal-El or John Johz?
    Those DC characters have been getting free rent in our
    heads for way too long and with the Marvel Group we have
    the Silver Surfer and a few dozen others by now.

    Well you know all about the 283 extra-Terrestrials but how
    about the Time Travelers? The people who think it should be
    1890? They seem to be all over the place.

    bliss

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to Andrew W on Mon May 19 21:57:08 2025
    On 5/17/25 16:34, Andrew W wrote:
    "Bobbie Sellers"  wrote in message news:100ah56$fsq2$1@dont-email.me...



    On 5/16/25 19:19, Andrew W wrote:
    "Mitchell Holman"  wrote in message
    news:XnsB2E1D39845498629555@185.151.15.190...

    "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
    news:1008hi7$fig$1@dont-email.me:

    "Mitchell Holman"  wrote in message
    news:XnsB2E1844A41583629555@185.151.15.160...

    Malte Runz <nobodys@busine.ss> wrote in
    news:d2se2kd3522ql7j97e64e3upbh2snqj4pg@4ax.com:

    On Fri, 16 May 2025 12:16:47 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> >>>>>>> wrote:

    "Mitchell Holman"  wrote in message
    news:XnsB2E0D047FD4F5629555@185.151.15.160...

    "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
    news:1005t7r$3cnf6$1@dont-email.me:

    "Mitchell Holman"  wrote in message
    news:XnsB2E04EFADAAA0629555@185.151.15.190...


      Has that happened since the discovery
    of hundreds of exoplanets?


    Discovery of exoplanets is only the first step. They're still not >>>>>>>> telling the people the important details like the earth's true >>>>>>>> history and who/what else is in this galaxy.

    I take it that you know many of the details. You know Earth's true >>>>>>> history and a lot of other facts about what goes on in this galaxy. >>>>>>>
    But instead of sharing that information, and your sources, with us, >>>>>>> you'll spend post after post coming up with excuses for not doing >>>>>>> it.

    'You're too lazy to do your own research.' 'I can't list all the >>>>>>> information I've spent decades finding.' 'The deep state has
    destroyed the evidence.' 'You only believe MSM.' 'You're mind
    controlled by the elites.' 'Why do you even need evidence?'

    On and on it goes. We been through this many times before, so unless >>>>>>> you have some new material, I'll suggest you go fuck yourself. Cool? >>>>>>


       It is depressing there are so many
    conspiracy-behind-everything kooks like
    him.  Their lives re so unremarkable and
    enpty they invent a "special knowledge"
    they think elevates them above everyone
    else.


    But scientists never invent new theories to become prominent and get >>>>> government grants?


       You know that scientific grant requests
    get previewed by other scientists, no?


    And they are more trustworthy and have nothing to gain? It's
    basically a club.

    A very internally competitive club where the scientists try to find
    flaws in
    data, its acquistion, and the logic usually mathematical to reject the
    new
    theories.  What they have to gain is the sharing of possibly accurate
    data
    and ideas.  Generally until an experiment or data acquistion mode is
    tested
    in another laboratory it is not considered proven or the theory
    relating to
    it is considered for acceptance.


    Yes that does happen, but what also happens is the establishments deride
    and suppress discoveries that would ruin their narratives.
    Much of the science debates that go on are also to distract the masses
    and muddy the waters.



    Yes it takes years to gain the skills necessary for scientific and/or
    technological
    research to be done but you would not be sitting whereever you are and
    typ[ng into your computer if poeple did not no devote themselves to such
    studies.  I will remind you or inform you if you did not know that when I >> was young computers were mostly human beings who devoted themselves
    to mathematics.

    Computers then became gigantic electrical machines then electronic
    machines which materials reseach managed to reduce to much handier
    sizes.  You are using the results of scientific research and many
    theoretical
    changes to communicate so yoiu should consider that seriously when
    you come off with your half-baked ideas about science and scientists.


    The establishments allowed computer tech, television tech etc.,
    basically entertainment, mainly to occupy people with crap and video
    games. Busy people don't ask questions. Governments hate questions.



    Every ten years or so they throw out most of their theories and make >>>>> up new ones. But you still trust them that only they have the 'facts'. >>>>>

       Bingo. That is where Nobel prizes come
    from, disproving a previously held theory
    with a new one, backed by evidence.


    Thin evidence that's open to interpretation. But they get their
    money. And Nobel prizes are another motivation and fame generator.



    We
    thought the world was static, then we
    discovered plate techtonics, we thought
    the moon was dead, then we discoved
    moonquakes, we thought gravity was just
    attractive, then we discovered it can
    repel things. Ain't science grand?


    So mainstream scientists used to be really dumb. Now they're less dumb.
    Many ancient people knew more about the stars as depicted in wall art
    than many later scientists.


    The ancients built non-optical observatories to study the
    heavens with the unaided eye.
    But they had no idea of the nature of the Sun or of other stars as far
    as we know.  Some figured out the Earth was more spherical than
    flat but no great knowlege of the stars but the knowlege of their
    observation.  Mostly they did observations to construct astrological
    charts and to make sure of the Quarter-Days i.e. Eqinoxes and
    Solstices.  Which is what a lot of ancient monuments were constructed
    to determine.


    You don't know that. There is archaeological evidence that ancient
    humans were contacted by advanced ETs who imparted advanced celestial knowledge, including energy generation, healing tech etc.

    More baloney.

    Stonehenge and other ancient monuments as well as India's great
    observatories are testaments to mankind's study of the heavens. And it was largely astrological study to determine propitious days for certain events.

    If aliens had been informing them then they would certainly have had surviving optical instruments.

    bliss

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to bcfd36@cruzio.com on Mon Jul 7 19:53:24 2025
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 11:43:03 -0700, BCFD 36 <bcfd36@cruzio.com> wrote:

    Dobie Gillis, is just awful. But Rocky and Bullwinkle is top notch. And
    I've always had a thing for Natasha.

    Perhaps, but if we didn't have Dobie Gillis we never would have gotten Gilligan....

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  • From Ted Nolan @21:1/5 to lcraver@home.ca on Tue Jul 8 02:57:56 2025
    In article <uv1p6k52pivteaddqt7390oec1st7mblph@4ax.com>,
    The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 11:43:03 -0700, BCFD 36 <bcfd36@cruzio.com> wrote:

    Dobie Gillis, is just awful. But Rocky and Bullwinkle is top notch. And >>I've always had a thing for Natasha.

    Perhaps, but if we didn't have Dobie Gillis we never would have gotten >Gilligan....

    Or Scooby Doo.
    --
    columbiaclosings.com
    What's not in Columbia anymore..

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