On 5/22/2025 3:10 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
On 5/22/2025 11:09 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
Social Security and Medicare will not die until the financial apocalypse >>> of the United States. Pray that it does not happen.
You are not paying attention. The just passed big ugly bill cuts
a half-trillion dollars from medicare. Not to mention the gutting
of medicaid, which will cause many rural hospitals to close outright.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5312712-house-gop-bill-medicare-cuts/
Not gonna happen, just wishful thinking on your part. Three million
people a year are joining Medicare (the last of the baby boomers), 65
million or so at the moment, and one million a year are leaving. That
is a huge voting block. And seniors vote in the USA.
In article <SwLXP.1070635$C51b.70661@fx17.iad>,
Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote:
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
On 5/22/2025 11:09 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
Social Security and Medicare will not die until the financial apocalypse >>> of the United States. Pray that it does not happen.
You are not paying attention. The just passed big ugly bill cuts
a half-trillion dollars from medicare. Not to mention the gutting
of medicaid, which will cause many rural hospitals to close outright.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5312712-house-gop-bill-medicare-cuts/
Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?
And seniors vote in the USA.
On 5/24/2025 9:55 AM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
On 5/22/2025 4:19 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
On 5/22/2025 3:10 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
On 5/22/2025 11:09 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
Social Security and Medicare will not die until the financial
apocalypse
of the United States. Pray that it does not happen.
You are not paying attention. The just passed big ugly bill cuts
a half-trillion dollars from medicare. Not to mention the gutting
of medicaid, which will cause many rural hospitals to close outright.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5312712-house-gop-bill-medicare-
cuts/
Not gonna happen, just wishful thinking on your part. Three million
people a year are joining Medicare (the last of the baby boomers), 65
million or so at the moment, and one million a year are leaving.
That is a huge voting block. And seniors vote in the USA.
Lynn
There are lots of people who can be persuaded to vote against their
own interests if they are told it will hurt someone they dislike.
The recent election is an example.
pt
No, the people of the USA voted the thieves out. And for sanity.
Lynn
On 5/22/2025 4:47 PM, James Nicoll wrote:and in other dangerous and unhealthy jobs. In case you had not heard
In article <SwLXP.1070635$C51b.70661@fx17.iad>,
Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote:
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
On 5/22/2025 11:09 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
Social Security and Medicare will not die until the financial
apocalypse
of the United States. Pray that it does not happen.
You are not paying attention. The just passed big ugly bill cuts
a half-trillion dollars from medicare. Not to mention the gutting
of medicaid, which will cause many rural hospitals to close outright.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5312712-house-gop-bill-medicare-cuts/
Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?
We are not China where the families sell their young teens to the
factories for $5,000. At least, not yet.
Lynn
No we send our young teens to work in poultry packing plants
On 5/24/2025 2:58 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
On 5/24/25 12:16, Lynn McGuire wrote:
On 5/22/2025 4:47 PM, James Nicoll wrote:Southern states particularly are repealing Child Labor laws, after all
In article <SwLXP.1070635$C51b.70661@fx17.iad>,
Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote:
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
On 5/22/2025 11:09 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
Social Security and Medicare will not die until the financial
apocalypse
of the United States. Pray that it does not happen.
You are not paying attention. The just passed big ugly bill cuts
a half-trillion dollars from medicare. Not to mention the gutting >>>>> of medicaid, which will cause many rural hospitals to close outright. >>>>>
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5312712-house-gop-bill-medicare-
cuts/
Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?
We are not China where the families sell their young teens to the
factories for $5,000. At least, not yet.
Lynn
No we send our young teens to work in poultry packing plants >> and in other dangerous and unhealthy jobs. In case you had not heard
what
is there to do with all that learning after the 8th Grade?
bliss
Somebody has to work those poultry plant jobs. At least they are paid $16/hour and get to go home at night. Or the morning if they are
working the graveyard shift, been there, done that driving home 35 miles
east into the rising Sun at 730am.
Lynn
On 5/24/25 13:43, Lynn McGuire wrote:
On 5/24/2025 2:58 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
On 5/24/25 12:16, Lynn McGuire wrote:
On 5/22/2025 4:47 PM, James Nicoll wrote:and in other dangerous and unhealthy jobs. In case you had not heard
In article <SwLXP.1070635$C51b.70661@fx17.iad>,
Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote:
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
On 5/22/2025 11:09 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
Social Security and Medicare will not die until the financial
apocalypse
of the United States. Pray that it does not happen.
You are not paying attention. The just passed big ugly bill cuts >>>>>> a half-trillion dollars from medicare. Not to mention the gutting >>>>>> of medicaid, which will cause many rural hospitals to close outright. >>>>>>
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5312712-house-gop-bill-
medicare- cuts/
Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?
We are not China where the families sell their young teens to the
factories for $5,000. At least, not yet.
Lynn
No we send our young teens to work in poultry packing plants
Southern states particularly are repealing Child Labor laws, after
all what
is there to do with all that learning after the 8th Grade?
bliss
Somebody has to work those poultry plant jobs. At least they are paid
$16/hour and get to go home at night. Or the morning if they are
working the graveyard shift, been there, done that driving home 35
miles east into the rising Sun at 730am.
Lynn
When you worked at the poultry plant were you 12 years old Lynn?
Kids belong in school even if they do not think so. Someone was working at the poultry packing plants but ICE carried them away to
rot in San Salvador.
I was working in my family's restaurant peeling potatoes and washing
dishes, pots
and pans when I was 12 -18 but that was in the 1940s and 1950s.
But that was in the summer and
after school if some of what I was good at needed doing.
bliss
On Sat, 24 May 2025 14:18:10 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/24/2025 9:55 AM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
On 5/22/2025 4:19 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
On 5/22/2025 3:10 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:Not gonna happen, just wishful thinking on your part. Three million
On 5/22/2025 11:09 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
Social Security and Medicare will not die until the financial
apocalypse
of the United States. Pray that it does not happen.
You are not paying attention. The just passed big ugly bill cuts
a half-trillion dollars from medicare. Not to mention the gutting >>>>> of medicaid, which will cause many rural hospitals to close outright. >>>>>
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5312712-house-gop-bill-medicare-cuts/ >>>>
people a year are joining Medicare (the last of the baby boomers), 65
million or so at the moment, and one million a year are leaving. That >>>> is a huge voting block. And seniors vote in the USA.
Lynn
There are lots of people who can be persuaded to vote against their
own interests if they are told it will hurt someone they dislike.
The recent election is an example.
pt
No, the people of the USA voted the thieves out. And for sanity.
Well, they made a /big/ mistake. Sanity is definitely lacking.
Or has DOGE actually referred /anyone/ for investigation of fraud?
Has DOGE even discovered any actual fraud?
So far, DOGE is just another Nothingburger.
On 5/25/2025 4:32 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
DOGE has actually increased government expenditures with all the
lawsuits, re-hirings, etc. that their actions caused. And if you look
at the pattern of what they _actually_ did it appears that the whole
thing was intended to get Musk's AI access to confidential government
records.
Numbers please from a reputable source.
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
1. DOGE famously marked a very large number of records "deceased"
because of the age of SSN-holder. This may have clarified some things.
Sadly, the SSA was not sending payments to them.
In a lot of cases, those records were listed as having a birthday of
May 20, 1875, and this was used by some of the DOGE folks to claim great
and massive fraud. Unfortunately this happens to be the beginning of
epoch for ANSI COBOL format dates, and it's normally used as a semaphore
to indicate a missing date.
Not that someone shouldn't investigate why dates were missing, but that response is different than the response that was created.
I am certainly in favor of having independent third-party auditors look
over government systems in search of waste. But first of all they need
to be actually independent, and secondly they need to understand the
systems they are looking at.
--scott
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