• Re: Laser weeders?!

    From Ted Nolan @21:1/5 to tnusenet17@gmail.com on Thu Jun 26 13:31:40 2025
    In article <103jg2q$3edjs$1@dont-email.me>,
    Tony Nance <tnusenet17@gmail.com> wrote:

    What could go wrong?

    Commercial laser weeders are being used in agriculture on the West Coast
    of the United States. These are large machines that pass over crops,
    take photos, identify weeds with onboard computers and then kill them
    with a laser. …

    "Shooting lasers at foes is the stuff of science fiction, but now, a few >farmers are fighting one of their greatest nemeses with a new >technology—laser weeders. ... "

    https://phys.org/news/2025-06-lasers-common-herbicides-zapping-east.html



    As long as they're not frickin' laser beams we are probably OK.
    --
    columbiaclosings.com
    What's not in Columbia anymore..

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  • From Ahasuerus@21:1/5 to Tony Nance on Thu Jun 26 17:31:21 2025
    On 6/26/2025 8:56 AM, Tony Nance wrote:

    What could go wrong?

    [snip] identify weeds with onboard computers and then kill them
    with a laser. …

    As Robert Sheckley's "Watchbird" (1953, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?46236) suggested, the
    interesting question will be "How do you define 'weeds'?"

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  • From Jay Morris@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 26 21:02:40 2025
    On 6/26/2025 8:31 AM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <103jg2q$3edjs$1@dont-email.me>,
    Tony Nance <tnusenet17@gmail.com> wrote:

    What could go wrong?

    Commercial laser weeders are being used in agriculture on the West Coast
    of the United States. These are large machines that pass over crops,
    take photos, identify weeds with onboard computers and then kill them
    with a laser. …

    "Shooting lasers at foes is the stuff of science fiction, but now, a few
    farmers are fighting one of their greatest nemeses with a new
    technology—laser weeders. ... "

    https://phys.org/news/2025-06-lasers-common-herbicides-zapping-east.html



    As long as they're not frickin' laser beams we are probably OK.

    If you just have a small garden plot you can use the FarmBot, which does
    the seeding, feeding, and weeding, although without a laser.

    https://farm.bot/?srsltid=AfmBOoqU1D9_hnrpBBPwku692wv1KoR8bz2taIZ8Rz6Q5cpJRpt-4r9n

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  • From WolfFan@21:1/5 to Ahasuerus on Thu Jun 26 21:25:43 2025
    On Jun 26, 2025, Ahasuerus wrote
    (in article <103ke79$3m8kf$1@dont-email.me>):

    On 6/26/2025 8:56 AM, Tony Nance wrote:

    What could go wrong?

    [snip] identify weeds with onboard computers and then kill them
    with a laser. …

    As Robert Sheckley's "Watchbird" (1953, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?46236) suggested, the
    interesting question will be "How do you define 'weeds’?”
    They wear red ball caps

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  • From Joy Beeson@21:1/5 to ahasuerus@email.com on Mon Jun 30 00:44:37 2025
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 17:31:21 -0400, Ahasuerus
    <ahasuerus@email.com> wrote:

    On 6/26/2025 8:56 AM, Tony Nance wrote:

    What could go wrong?

    [snip] identify weeds with onboard computers and then kill them
    with a laser.

    As Robert Sheckley's "Watchbird" (1953, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?46236) suggested, the
    interesting question will be "How do you define 'weeds'?"

    Any plant that isn't a soybean -- or whatever else you are
    monoculturing.

    --
    Joy Beeson
    joy beeson at centurylink dot net
    http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to Joy Beeson on Sun Jun 29 22:17:07 2025
    On 6/29/25 21:44, Joy Beeson wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 17:31:21 -0400, Ahasuerus
    <ahasuerus@email.com> wrote:

    On 6/26/2025 8:56 AM, Tony Nance wrote:

    What could go wrong?

    [snip] identify weeds with onboard computers and then kill them
    with a laser. …

    Weeds with an onboard computer! !! Mad scientists have gone too far.

    As Robert Sheckley's "Watchbird" (1953,
    https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?46236) suggested, the
    interesting question will be "How do you define 'weeds'?"

    Any plant that isn't a soybean -- or whatever else you are
    monoculturing.


    bliss

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid on Mon Jun 30 11:50:39 2025
    Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 17:31:21 -0400, Ahasuerus
    <ahasuerus@email.com> wrote:

    On 6/26/2025 8:56 AM, Tony Nance wrote:

    What could go wrong?

    [snip] identify weeds with onboard computers and then kill them
    with a laser.

    As Robert Sheckley's "Watchbird" (1953,
    https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?46236) suggested, the
    interesting question will be "How do you define 'weeds'?"

    Any plant that isn't a soybean -- or whatever else you are
    monoculturing.

    What we need is some way to teach goats not to eat soybeans. Then we
    might have something.
    --scott

    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From Scott Lurndal@21:1/5 to Scott Dorsey on Mon Jun 30 16:38:26 2025
    kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) writes:
    Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 17:31:21 -0400, Ahasuerus
    <ahasuerus@email.com> wrote:

    On 6/26/2025 8:56 AM, Tony Nance wrote:

    What could go wrong?

    [snip] identify weeds with onboard computers and then kill them
    with a laser.

    As Robert Sheckley's "Watchbird" (1953,
    https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?46236) suggested, the
    interesting question will be "How do you define 'weeds'?"

    Any plant that isn't a soybean -- or whatever else you are
    monoculturing.

    What we need is some way to teach goats not to eat soybeans. Then we
    might have something.
    --scott

    My grandfather (b. 1903) grew soybeans. He was what today would be called
    an organic farmer - he didn't use herbicides (or fertilizers - he preferred crop rotation using alfalfa to replenish N2 in the soil).

    That meant us kids spent summers walking the beanfields with a curved corn knife, whacking ragweed, lambs quarters and other undesirable growths.

    Can't say it was fun. Trained goats would be preferred - although today, robotics
    would likely be a more productive path to take.

    https://farm.bot/

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Scott Dorsey on Mon Jun 30 18:02:10 2025
    On 6/30/2025 8:50 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 17:31:21 -0400, Ahasuerus
    <ahasuerus@email.com> wrote:

    On 6/26/2025 8:56 AM, Tony Nance wrote:

    What could go wrong?

    [snip] identify weeds with onboard computers and then kill them
    with a laser. …

    As Robert Sheckley's "Watchbird" (1953,
    https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?46236) suggested, the
    interesting question will be "How do you define 'weeds'?"

    Any plant that isn't a soybean -- or whatever else you are
    monoculturing.

    What we need is some way to teach goats not to eat soybeans. Then we
    might have something.
    --scott

    Smarter goats. What could go wrong?

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Scott Lurndal on Mon Jun 30 18:02:53 2025
    On 6/30/2025 9:38 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
    kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) writes:
    Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 17:31:21 -0400, Ahasuerus
    <ahasuerus@email.com> wrote:

    On 6/26/2025 8:56 AM, Tony Nance wrote:

    What could go wrong?

    [snip] identify weeds with onboard computers and then kill them
    with a laser. …

    As Robert Sheckley's "Watchbird" (1953,
    https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?46236) suggested, the
    interesting question will be "How do you define 'weeds'?"

    Any plant that isn't a soybean -- or whatever else you are
    monoculturing.

    What we need is some way to teach goats not to eat soybeans. Then we
    might have something.
    --scott

    My grandfather (b. 1903) grew soybeans. He was what today would be called
    an organic farmer - he didn't use herbicides (or fertilizers - he preferred crop rotation using alfalfa to replenish N2 in the soil).

    That meant us kids spent summers walking the beanfields with a curved corn knife, whacking ragweed, lambs quarters and other undesirable growths.

    Can't say it was fun. Trained goats would be preferred - although today, robotics
    would likely be a more productive path to take.

    https://farm.bot/

    Goats would be cheaper I suspect.

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Tony Nance on Tue Jul 1 07:18:26 2025
    On 7/1/2025 4:24 AM, Tony Nance wrote:
    On 6/30/25 9:02 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 6/30/2025 8:50 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    Joy Beeson  <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 17:31:21 -0400, Ahasuerus
    <ahasuerus@email.com> wrote:

    On 6/26/2025 8:56 AM, Tony Nance wrote:

    What could go wrong?

    [snip] identify weeds with onboard computers and then kill them
    with a laser. …

    As Robert Sheckley's "Watchbird" (1953,
    https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?46236) suggested, the
    interesting question will be "How do you define 'weeds'?"

    Any plant that isn't a soybean -- or whatever else you are
    monoculturing.

    What we need is some way to teach goats not to eat soybeans.  Then we
    might have something.
    --scott

    Smarter goats.  What could go wrong?


    Maybe we could mount the lasers on the smarter goats.

    You just answered my question, Dr. Evil. :)

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Tony Nance on Tue Jul 1 17:40:50 2025
    On 7/1/2025 7:58 AM, Tony Nance wrote:
    On 7/1/25 10:18 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 7/1/2025 4:24 AM, Tony Nance wrote:
    On 6/30/25 9:02 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 6/30/2025 8:50 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    Joy Beeson  <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 17:31:21 -0400, Ahasuerus
    <ahasuerus@email.com> wrote:

    On 6/26/2025 8:56 AM, Tony Nance wrote:

    What could go wrong?

    [snip] identify weeds with onboard computers and then kill them >>>>>>>> with a laser. …

    As Robert Sheckley's "Watchbird" (1953,
    https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?46236) suggested, the
    interesting question will be "How do you define 'weeds'?"

    Any plant that isn't a soybean -- or whatever else you are
    monoculturing.

    What we need is some way to teach goats not to eat soybeans.  Then we >>>>> might have something.
    --scott

    Smarter goats.  What could go wrong?


    Maybe we could mount the lasers on the smarter goats.

    You just answered my question, Dr. Evil.  :)


    YESSSSSSS!![1]
    - Tony
    [1] I think.

    Hint: Austin Powers

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  • From WolfFan@21:1/5 to Scott Dorsey on Wed Jul 2 20:05:01 2025
    On Jun 30, 2025, Scott Dorsey wrote
    (in article <103ubof$fmt$1@panix2.panix.com>):

    Joy Beeson<jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 17:31:21 -0400, Ahasuerus
    <ahasuerus@email.com> wrote:

    On 6/26/2025 8:56 AM, Tony Nance wrote:

    What could go wrong?

    [snip] identify weeds with onboard computers and then kill them
    with a laser. …

    As Robert Sheckley's "Watchbird" (1953, https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?46236) suggested, the
    interesting question will be "How do you define 'weeds'?"

    Any plant that isn't a soybean -- or whatever else you are
    monoculturing.

    What we need is some way to teach goats not to eat soybeans. Then we
    might have something.
    --scott

    You need Eustace. He was, after all, designed to eat weeds. And demons. And anything else that annoyed Halt.

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