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    From Ted Nolan @21:1/5 to lynnmcguire5@gmail.com on Tue Jul 8 19:25:19 2025
    In article <104joac$3nd7h$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 7/8/2025 9:12 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
    "Trader's Leap (23) (Liaden Universe®)" by Sharon Lee and Steve Miller


    Master Trader Shan yos'Galan is taking the main Korval space ship, the
    "Dutiful Passage", with its crew of hundreds

    Do you actually _read_ the Liaden stories? Or just the summaries on
    liars social?

    Where has the crew of the Dutiful Passage ever been described
    as being in the 'hundreds'?

    Just an impression as 17 ??? of the crew departed at one of the planets >visited. The "Dutiful Passage" is also configurable as a warship with
    many war modules replacing its cargo modules. If you have ever worked
    in 24x7x365 facilities as I did for several years, I was always amazed
    at the number of people involved in running the plants.

    Who is liars social ? Reddit ?

    Lynn


    It's an interesting question. I think we know all of Bechimo's crew and
    it's probably about a dozen, but he is a small ship. Dutiful Passage
    is much larger, and, as mentioned, armed, but then again modern container
    ships are said to have crews of 20-30 and they are pretty big. I think it's safe to say at least that we haven't been introduced to all of DP's crew onscreen.
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  • From Ted Nolan @21:1/5 to lynnmcguire5@gmail.com on Wed Jul 9 02:26:33 2025
    In article <104kja9$3sg4v$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 7/8/2025 2:25 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <104joac$3nd7h$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 7/8/2025 9:12 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
    "Trader's Leap (23) (Liaden Universe®)" by Sharon Lee and Steve Miller >>>>>

    Master Trader Shan yos'Galan is taking the main Korval space ship, the >>>>> "Dutiful Passage", with its crew of hundreds

    Do you actually _read_ the Liaden stories? Or just the summaries on
    liars social?

    Where has the crew of the Dutiful Passage ever been described
    as being in the 'hundreds'?

    Just an impression as 17 ??? of the crew departed at one of the planets >>> visited. The "Dutiful Passage" is also configurable as a warship with
    many war modules replacing its cargo modules. If you have ever worked
    in 24x7x365 facilities as I did for several years, I was always amazed
    at the number of people involved in running the plants.

    Who is liars social ? Reddit ?

    Lynn


    It's an interesting question. I think we know all of Bechimo's crew and
    it's probably about a dozen, but he is a small ship. Dutiful Passage
    is much larger, and, as mentioned, armed, but then again modern container
    ships are said to have crews of 20-30 and they are pretty big. I think it's >> safe to say at least that we haven't been introduced to all of DP's crew
    onscreen.

    Can I state that a modern container ship and a huge space ship, probably
    in the range of a mile to ten miles long, are two different levels of >complexity ?

    After all, the container ship uses Earth's air. The space ship will
    have to generate air for the humans to breathe. The container ship uses >combustion engines using fuel and using air from the atmosphere.
    Spaceships will probably use a fusion drive. On and on for the
    different levels of complexity. And DP has a dedicated security force
    which container ships do not generally have.

    IIRC, most of DP's fighting modules are kept in a secret location. They
    are not carried by DP all the time, that space is reserved for cargo.

    Lynn


    I had never really thought about it as that large, but a fandom wiki
    does make it sound rather grand:

    https://liaden.fandom.com/wiki/Dutiful_Passage
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  • From Scott Lurndal@21:1/5 to Lynn McGuire on Wed Jul 9 16:05:35 2025
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
    On 7/8/2025 2:25 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <104joac$3nd7h$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 7/8/2025 9:12 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
    "Trader's Leap (23) (Liaden Universe®)" by Sharon Lee and Steve Miller >>>>>

    Master Trader Shan yos'Galan is taking the main Korval space ship, the >>>>> "Dutiful Passage", with its crew of hundreds

    Do you actually _read_ the Liaden stories? Or just the summaries on
    liars social?

    Where has the crew of the Dutiful Passage ever been described
    as being in the 'hundreds'?

    Just an impression as 17 ??? of the crew departed at one of the planets >>> visited. The "Dutiful Passage" is also configurable as a warship with
    many war modules replacing its cargo modules. If you have ever worked
    in 24x7x365 facilities as I did for several years, I was always amazed
    at the number of people involved in running the plants.

    Who is liars social ? Reddit ?

    Lynn


    It's an interesting question. I think we know all of Bechimo's crew and
    it's probably about a dozen, but he is a small ship. Dutiful Passage
    is much larger, and, as mentioned, armed, but then again modern container
    ships are said to have crews of 20-30 and they are pretty big. I think it's >> safe to say at least that we haven't been introduced to all of DP's crew
    onscreen.

    Can I state that a modern container ship and a huge space ship, probably
    in the range of a mile to ten miles long, are two different levels of >complexity ?

    On what basis do you belive that? The Dutiful Passage was a pod
    carrier - which is really no different than a modern
    container ship.

    The economics (such as they are in science fiction) would seem
    to favor just picking up and dropping off pods. Most of which
    would be automated. Economics wouldn't favor large crews with
    the attendant food, energy, and waste disposal requirements.

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