• (Shockwave Reader) A Maze of Stars by John Brunner

    From James Nicoll@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 15 13:11:29 2025
    A Maze of Stars by John Brunner

    An intelligent ship crisscrosses space-time to track the progress
    of the colonies it established

    https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/till-eternity
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  • From Christian Weisgerber@21:1/5 to James Nicoll on Tue Jul 15 15:17:27 2025
    On 2025-07-15, James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:

    https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/till-eternity

    | A number of SF authors pursued careers like Brunner’s: early
    | prodigious output of competent pulp, a middle ambitious period,
    | the grim realization that readers had no interest in rewarding
    | their hard work with a commensurate increase in income, embittered
    | disenchantment, and a return to their origins, albeit with better
    | prose and plotting.

    I'll bite: What other authors followed such a career trajectory?

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  • From James Nicoll@21:1/5 to naddy@mips.inka.de on Tue Jul 15 16:28:57 2025
    In article <slrn107cs87.bsl.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de>,
    Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:
    On 2025-07-15, James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:

    https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/till-eternity

    | A number of SF authors pursued careers like Brunner’s: early
    | prodigious output of competent pulp, a middle ambitious period,
    | the grim realization that readers had no interest in rewarding
    | their hard work with a commensurate increase in income, embittered
    | disenchantment, and a return to their origins, albeit with better
    | prose and plotting.

    I'll bite: What other authors followed such a career trajectory?

    Piers Anthony is one. Robert Silverberg is another.
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  • From James Nicoll@21:1/5 to James Nicoll on Tue Jul 15 17:18:45 2025
    In article <10562ch$6ou$1@reader1.panix.com>,
    James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
    In article <MPG.42e02af582dc07f7989718@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <1055vk9$a6t$1@reader1.panix.com>, did >>jdnicoll@panix.com deliver unto us this message:

    In article <slrn107cs87.bsl.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de>,
    Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:
    On 2025-07-15, James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:

    https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/till-eternity

    | A number of SF authors pursued careers like Brunner�s: early
    | prodigious output of competent pulp, a middle ambitious period,
    | the grim realization that readers had no interest in rewarding
    | their hard work with a commensurate increase in income, embittered
    | disenchantment, and a return to their origins, albeit with better
    | prose and plotting.

    I'll bite: What other authors followed such a career trajectory?

    Piers Anthony is one. Robert Silverberg is another.

    It's always a bummer to be reminded that there are more people who like >>predictable tropes than who like creative literature.

    I liked some of Piers Anthony's more ambitious work. I believe it's all >>Xanth all the time now. Of course, he's also fairly old and may just see >>this as semi-retirement.

    Oh, Anthony worked out very early that writing books like Macroscope
    is hard and pays poorly, whereas cranking out endless crap like Xanth
    is easy and pays well. He was quite frank about it in early interviews.

    The most significant exception from this pattern that comes to mind is
    Samuel Delany, whose Dhalgren is ambitious, difficult to read (I'm
    working on it), and wildly successful. He mostly stopped writing SFF
    but not because effort was not rewarded.
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  • From James Nicoll@21:1/5 to thetruemelissa@gmail.com on Tue Jul 15 17:16:02 2025
    In article <MPG.42e02af582dc07f7989718@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <1055vk9$a6t$1@reader1.panix.com>, did
    jdnicoll@panix.com deliver unto us this message:

    In article <slrn107cs87.bsl.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de>,
    Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:
    On 2025-07-15, James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:

    https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/till-eternity

    | A number of SF authors pursued careers like Brunner�s: early
    | prodigious output of competent pulp, a middle ambitious period,
    | the grim realization that readers had no interest in rewarding
    | their hard work with a commensurate increase in income, embittered
    | disenchantment, and a return to their origins, albeit with better
    | prose and plotting.

    I'll bite: What other authors followed such a career trajectory?

    Piers Anthony is one. Robert Silverberg is another.

    It's always a bummer to be reminded that there are more people who like >predictable tropes than who like creative literature.

    I liked some of Piers Anthony's more ambitious work. I believe it's all
    Xanth all the time now. Of course, he's also fairly old and may just see
    this as semi-retirement.

    Oh, Anthony worked out very early that writing books like Macroscope
    is hard and pays poorly, whereas cranking out endless crap like Xanth
    is easy and pays well. He was quite frank about it in early interviews.




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  • From Bobbie Sellers@21:1/5 to Christian Weisgerber on Tue Jul 15 12:09:41 2025
    On 7/15/25 08:17, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
    On 2025-07-15, James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:

    https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/till-eternity

    | A number of SF authors pursued careers like Brunner’s: early
    | prodigious output of competent pulp, a middle ambitious period,
    | the grim realization that readers had no interest in rewarding
    | their hard work with a commensurate increase in income, embittered
    | disenchantment, and a return to their origins, albeit with better
    | prose and plotting.

    I'll bite: What other authors followed such a career trajectory?


    It has only lately that readers have been able, it they can afford it, to
    reward writers and grahic artists directly. In the old pulp days and in the golder age of Galaxy, Worlds of If, Astounding, Amazing, Fantasy and
    Science Fitction, Azimov's, magazines it was editors and publishers who
    limited
    the rewards for all the writers. The readers merely paid the cover price
    for the magazine or book and we expected the publishers to reward
    the writers appropriately.

    bliss.

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  • From Steve Coltrin@21:1/5 to Melissa Hollingsworth on Wed Jul 16 08:35:49 2025
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    Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> writes:

    I liked some of Piers Anthony's more ambitious work. I believe it's all
    Xanth all the time now. Of course, he's also fairly old and may just see
    this as semi-retirement.

    Given the simplicity of language in his recent newsletters when he
    actually writes one, said massive drop in frequency, and his recent move
    into a managed decline facility on the other side of Unistat [1], I'm sure
    it's more than semi.

    [1] Unistat in processu sui ipsius destruendi est.

    --
    Steve Coltrin spcoltri@omcl.org
    "A group known as the League of Human Dignity helped arrange for Deuel
    to be driven to a local livestock scale, where he could be weighed."
    - Associated Press

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