• Re: Doctor Who Fans & Writers Need to Grow Up [article]

    From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sat Feb 1 17:33:10 2025
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    In article <xn0p1jizw61hzco000@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    An interesting article about Doctor Who from The Spectator
    toady...

    "The horror of Doctor Who isn’t Daleks or woke politics, it’s
    that these days we are asked to treat a mediocre kids’ TV show
    as a major artistic achievement."

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/doctor-who-fans-and-its-writers-need-to-grow-up/

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 1 17:31:32 2025
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    An interesting article about Doctor Who from The Spectator
    toady...

    "The horror of Doctor Who isn’t Daleks or woke politics, it’s
    that these days we are asked to treat a mediocre kids’ TV show
    as a major artistic achievement."

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/doctor-who-fans-and-its-writers-need-to-grow-up/

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  • From John Hall@21:1/5 to blueshirt@indigo.news on Sat Feb 1 18:23:37 2025
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    In message <xn0p1jizw61hzco000@post.eweka.nl>, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> writes
    An interesting article about Doctor Who from The Spectator
    toady...

    Typo, or are you just seriously unimpressed by the writer?


    "The horror of Doctor Who isn’t Daleks or woke politics, it’s
    that these days we are asked to treat a mediocre kids’ TV show
    as a major artistic achievement."

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/doctor-who-fans-and-its-writers-need >-to-grow-up/

    Perhaps one of the show's problems is that, like the writer of the
    article that you've quoted, RTD seems to view it primarily as a kids'
    show. If a survey was carried out, I think he might be surprised by the
    age profile of its viewers.
    --
    John Hall
    "I look upon it, that he who does not mind his belly,
    will hardly mind anything else."
    Dr Samuel Johnson (1709-84)

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to John Hall on Sun Feb 2 09:52:01 2025
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    On 2025-02-01 18:23:37 +0000, John Hall said:
    In message <xn0p1jizw61hzco000@post.eweka.nl>, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> writes
    An interesting article about Doctor Who from The Spectator
    toady...

    Typo, or are you just seriously unimpressed by the writer?

    "The horror of Doctor Who isn’t Daleks or woke politics, it’s
    that these days we are asked to treat a mediocre kids’ TV show
    as a major artistic achievement."

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/doctor-who-fans-and-its-writers-need
    -to-grow-up/

    Perhaps one of the show's problems is that, like the writer of the
    article that you've quoted, RTD seems to view it primarily as a kids'
    show. If a survey was carried out, I think he might be surprised by the
    age profile of its viewers.

    The average age of the viewers may be older, but that doesn't change
    the fact that it is made as a kids' show, albeit slightly older kids
    than say teh Sarah Jane show was. Many kids' shows are actually better
    and more interesting than the boring, over-sexed, and/or over-violent
    garbage made for supposed grown-ups, (even ignoring the infestation of "reality" TV garbage made for adults).

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to YourName@YourISP.com on Sun Feb 2 01:47:31 2025
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    In article <vnm1hh$9baq$1@dont-email.me>,
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-02-01 18:23:37 +0000, John Hall said:
    In message <xn0p1jizw61hzco000@post.eweka.nl>, Blueshirt
    <blueshirt@indigo.news> writes
    An interesting article about Doctor Who from The Spectator
    toady...

    Typo, or are you just seriously unimpressed by the writer?

    "The horror of Doctor Who isn’t Daleks or woke politics, it’s
    that these days we are asked to treat a mediocre kids’ TV show
    as a major artistic achievement."

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/doctor-who-fans-and-its-writers-need >>> -to-grow-up/

    Perhaps one of the show's problems is that, like the writer of the
    article that you've quoted, RTD seems to view it primarily as a kids'
    show. If a survey was carried out, I think he might be surprised by the
    age profile of its viewers.

    The average age of the viewers may be older, but that doesn't change
    the fact that it is made as a kids' show, albeit slightly older kids
    than say teh Sarah Jane show was. Many kids' shows are actually better
    and more interesting than the boring, over-sexed, and/or over-violent
    garbage made for supposed grown-ups, (even ignoring the infestation of >"reality" TV garbage made for adults).


    And those are the facts.
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to john@jhall.co.uk on Sun Feb 2 01:46:58 2025
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    In article <+lR8FBBpamnnFw7l@jhall_nospamxx.co.uk>,
    John Hall <john@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <xn0p1jizw61hzco000@post.eweka.nl>, Blueshirt ><blueshirt@indigo.news> writes
    An interesting article about Doctor Who from The Spectator
    toady...

    Typo, or are you just seriously unimpressed by the writer?


    "The horror of Doctor Who isn’t Daleks or woke politics, it’s
    that these days we are asked to treat a mediocre kids’ TV show
    as a major artistic achievement."

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/doctor-who-fans-and-its-writers-need >>-to-grow-up/

    Perhaps one of the show's problems is that, like the writer of the
    article that you've quoted, RTD seems to view it primarily as a kids'
    show. If a survey was carried out, I think he might be surprised by the
    age profile of its viewers.

    Dare that survey come to fruitition?

    --
    John Hall
    "I look upon it, that he who does not mind his belly,
    will hardly mind anything else."
    Dr Samuel Johnson (1709-84)


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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to John Hall on Sun Feb 2 11:42:00 2025
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    John Hall wrote:

    In message <xn0p1jizw61hzco000@post.eweka.nl>, Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> writes
    An interesting article about Doctor Who from The Spectator
    toady...

    Typo, or are you just seriously unimpressed by the writer?

    Typo. I have stronger words for writers who don't impress me! :-)

    "The horror of Doctor Who isn’t Daleks or woke politics, it’s
    that these days we are asked to treat a mediocre kids’ TV
    show as a major artistic achievement."


    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/doctor-who-fans-and-its-writers-need
    -to-grow-up/

    Perhaps one of the show's problems is that, like the writer of
    the article that you've quoted, RTD seems to view it primarily
    as a kids' show. If a survey was carried out, I think he might
    be surprised by the age profile of its viewers.

    I don't think RTD would be surprised, he knows all about Doctor
    Who fandom. He just doesn't care and makes Doctor Who the way he
    wants to. (There are many examples of his views on this in "The
    Writers Tale".)

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sun Feb 2 12:24:02 2025
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    In article <xn0p1ko7h749byt001@post.eweka.nl>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    John Hall wrote:

    In message <xn0p1jizw61hzco000@post.eweka.nl>, Blueshirt
    <blueshirt@indigo.news> writes
    An interesting article about Doctor Who from The Spectator
    toady...

    Typo, or are you just seriously unimpressed by the writer?

    Typo. I have stronger words for writers who don't impress me! :-)

    "The horror of Doctor Who isn’t Daleks or woke politics, it’s
    that these days we are asked to treat a mediocre kids’ TV
    show as a major artistic achievement."


    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/doctor-who-fans-and-its-writers-need
    -to-grow-up/

    Perhaps one of the show's problems is that, like the writer of
    the article that you've quoted, RTD seems to view it primarily
    as a kids' show. If a survey was carried out, I think he might
    be surprised by the age profile of its viewers.

    I don't think RTD would be surprised, he knows all about Doctor
    Who fandom. He just doesn't care and makes Doctor Who the way he
    wants to. (There are many examples of his views on this in "The
    Writers Tale".)

    Sharpen you knives Doctor Who fans!
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